[00:13] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I don't see the docs in khelpcenter is there a ppa I need?
[00:24] <kfunk> FTR: libgrantlee-dev and libgrantlee5-dev are not co-installable
[01:11] <ahoneybun> has anyone gotten Ubuntu to run on the HP Stream 11?
[05:18] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[05:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: congratulations on the feature page. It knocked my socks off
[07:15] <soee> good morning
[08:36] <sitter> Riddell: konsole ci broken
[09:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:00] <sitter> Riddell, Mirv: it appears to me that kross needs qtbase-abi rebuilds nowadays
[11:01] <sitter> so does qtcurve
[11:07] <Riddell> sitter: kross is still building for kf5.8 no?
[11:07] <Riddell> sitter: should it get a manual depends on qt-abi-x.y?
[11:07] <sitter> if it is still building its alright
[11:07] <sitter> just thought I should mention it since today's upgrade wants to remove the two packages :'<
[11:11]  * sitter wonders why kio master fails to build
[11:33] <Mirv> sitter: I'm totally already learned that good things come to those who wait when it comes to kf5 upgrades :)
[11:34] <Mirv> but yes, qtbase/declarative-abi deps should be obtained automatically, and if not then it should be investigated. especially now that the symbols are more correct with 5.4.1.
[11:35] <Mirv> 5.4.1 marked some additional symbols as private and made some previously private symbols public (as that was not being tracked before), so it's interesting to see if there were any affected packages. I'd guess not.
[11:35] <Mirv> other than kwin got now free from it's abi deps
[11:37] <sitter> ^ that's going to return with kwin 5.3 ;)
[11:37] <sitter> only this morning I added qtbase-private to make the wayland part of kwin build again ;)
[11:50] <Riddell> hmm today's live CD doesn't want to boot into sddm at all :(
[11:50] <Riddell> maybe my change to the config file  for autologin in casper was wrong
[11:51] <stormchaser3000> ii always seem to have issues when using sddm
[11:51] <stormchaser3000> i*
[12:48] <lordievader> Riddell: The pesky bug where sddm is not enabled in Systemd?
[13:03] <Riddell> lordievader: no, today's bug is only on the live cd and login doesn't work
[13:03] <lordievader> Hmm :(
[13:06] <soee> why so sad :D thers no bug that can't be fixed
[13:52] <sitter> that plymouth issue
[13:53] <sitter> it almost looks like plymouth is starting during the upgrade rather than getting switched to
[13:54] <soee> bug when plymouth replaces screen ?
[13:55] <soee> *screen content
[13:55] <sitter> yeah
[13:56] <soee> is it even possible that it can start during upgrade ?
[13:56] <archetech> fresh update  needed to do the pymouth/sddm fix again
[13:57] <soee> what would trigger plymouth start 
[13:57] <archetech> start button opens  cant use anything  
[13:57] <soee> either some package or plymouth itselft when other package changes ?
[13:58] <archetech> running my apps from alt-f2 :(
[13:59] <soee> pro style :)
[14:08] <sitter> Riddell, yofel: sddm disabled has apparently to do with /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service getting lost
[14:08] <sitter> or perhaps the file getting lost is a side effect of it
[14:14] <Riddell> sitter: ... interesting
[14:14] <Riddell> how is that set?
[14:15] <sitter> postinst of sddm
[14:15] <Mamarok> sitter: btw, why was Phonon 4.8 never pushed to backports PPA? I still only have 4.7.80 for 14.10
[14:15] <sitter> Riddell: you can install KCI iso from friday and do an upgrade
[14:15] <Mamarok> adn 4.8.2 is out since like 4 months
[14:15] <sitter> that has triggered the problem for me
[14:15] <sitter> Mamarok: fell under the table one could speculate
[14:16] <Mamarok> apparently so, indeed
[14:27] <Riddell> today's live cd does have display-manager.service but I guess that was a problem on upgrade
[14:33] <Riddell> subject: [ubuntu/vivid] kdelibs4support 5.8.0-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[14:33] <Riddell> sweet, kf 5.8 all in!
[14:34] <Riddell> hmm, or maybe not
[15:07] <Riddell> hmm, symbols from qt leaked through somehow? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/200647530/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.kjsembed_5.8.0-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:08] <sitter> yes, retract
[15:08] <sitter> in fact
[15:08] <sitter> merge unstable it has the retraction arleady
[15:08] <sitter> actually
[15:08] <sitter> don't merge unstable, the symbol verision will be too high :P
[15:10] <Riddell> sitter: new releaseme script was nice and fast put half the tars missed random .po files, fortunately my new super awesome test suite detected that and I've fixed.  I guess it was due to flakey internet in the office this morning
[15:11] <Riddell> s/put/but/
[15:11] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "sitter: new releaseme script was nice and fast but half the tars missed random .po files, fortunately my new super awesome test suite detected that and I've fixed.  I guess it was due to flakey internet in the office this morning"
[15:11] <sitter> yeah flaky intertubes can do that
[15:12]  * sitter should reintroduce svn error handling again
[15:12] <Riddell> it got stuck a few times too and I had to kill svn processes
[15:12] <Riddell> weird as I'd think svn would have a timeout
[15:13] <sitter> odd enough
[15:13] <sitter> actually. I do have a branch with excessive logging to file somewhere
[15:14] <sitter> going to rebase that at some point, then you should get verbose logging of what is going on internally so we can take a look at things in case something went wrong
[15:15] <Riddell> shrug, I guess it's a problem with svn and it's no bother to just make 1 tar again
[15:17] <sitter> Riddell: as long as you trust your test suite enough :P
[15:17] <sitter> at any rate if there is a problem its very handy to know why things went wrong as ultimately we can do something about it in releaseme
[15:24] <Riddell> sitter: oh did you look at svn releaseme? I seem to remember it didn't work last time I tried it
[15:32] <sitter> Riddell: you didn't say anything
[15:32] <sitter> I think martin used it for the legacy ktp thing though
[15:32] <sitter> so surely you used it wrong :P
[15:39] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ping
[16:06] <Riddell> community council catchup in an hour
[16:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: thats just for council members right?
[16:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: anyone
[16:13] <Riddell> in #ubuntu-meeting I guess
[16:14] <ahoneybun> I'll be there Riddell :)
[16:51] <Riddell> hmm khtml is failing on armhf
[16:52] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma 5.2.2 tars are up if you are at a lose end :)
[17:02] <sgclark> Riddell: sure thing, will be in a few though
[17:02] <Riddell> community council meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Riddell, what's the complete command to re-enable sddm at boot again ?  sudo systemctl enable sddm....... ?
[17:19] <Riddell> systemctl enable sddm
[17:20] <ahoneybun> I had to run that command again after a update
[17:21] <Riddell> hmm, so maybe it's a general problem with sddm updates
[17:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, also adding network folders to places in dolphin doesn't work 
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: pong
[17:24] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: so the feature tour looks good then?
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> it's awesome
[17:26] <ahoneybun> :)
[17:50]  * genii pays close attention in -meeting
[18:31] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[18:44] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[18:47] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: What's up?
[18:47] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: do you think you can tinker some more with that crawler script?
[18:47] <lordievader> Not now, messing with Zabbix.
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> when ever you can
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> just let me know if you can do that
[18:48] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Sure.
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: the scope is to "Verify links and content from old site that are present in the new one."
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> and "Make sure old (all) links still work (the links from within the site)"
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> by that I mean the URLs available in the old site, to be available and valid for the new site
[18:51] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I need a list of pages that don't work on the new site, but work on the old, so I can fix them
[18:51] <lordievader> Right.
[18:51] <lordievader> The problem kind of is that multiple pages can link to the same page. If you don't keep that in mind you might get stuck in a loop.
[18:52] <ovidiu-florin> that's why my script checked for duplicates
[18:52] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you have a link to the work that sitter did at last year's akademy?
[18:52] <ovidiu-florin> I first tried it with a list, but that resulted in a stack overflow
[18:52] <ovidiu-florin> then I tried with files, but that wen't wrong, and I still don't know why
[18:52] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: tell me if you need a copy of my current script
[18:53]  * ovidiu-florin is going to be so lost at Akademy
[18:54] <Riddell> im not really here
[18:54] <Riddell> on my phone
[18:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what work?
[18:54] <ahoneybun> Riddell: there was some work with kubuntu and debian git merging
[18:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well all our packaging and kci
[18:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I heard that sitter got some work done with git and debian mixing
[18:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell: trying to get Ubuntu to see funding akademy will help Ubuntu as a whole
[18:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: we agreed to use debian git
[18:57] <Riddell> we had a whole day for kubuntu and will do again
[18:58] <ahoneybun> we have to show Canoncial that it will benefit Ubuntu as well as Kubuntu to fund more people to go (me including)
[18:58] <Riddell> the money is donated for ubuntu community use
[18:59] <Riddell> thats us
[18:59] <ahoneybun> "so there's some question about how people attending Akademy benefits Ubuntu"
[18:59] <Riddell> we make its software?
[19:00] <ahoneybun> true
[19:01] <ahoneybun> even more true with the move to Qt
[19:01] <ahoneybun> qml
[19:01] <Riddell> whos asking that?
[19:01] <ahoneybun> I'm not sure
[19:02] <Riddell> how does working with upstream on our software help us is just not a question that should have to be asked
[19:03] <Riddell> but the same goes for claims that ubuntu packages cant be freely copied
[19:04] <Riddell> it just should not be a question that will harm ubuntu
[19:04] <ahoneybun> I saw that on the topic board
[19:17] <mhall119> Riddell: it was just the fact that we aren't familiar with Akademy, that is all
[19:18] <mhall119> I mean, we know of it, just not what it's like or what happens there
[19:20] <mhall119> 2/w 83
[19:22]  * BluesKaj wonders when pastebinit will be back, it's a pita without it
[19:29] <_Groo_> BluesKaj: ^ this... i want it too
[19:29] <mhall119> what happened to pastebinit?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> I downloaded it , but it doesn't launch 
[19:35] <BluesKaj> and installed it of course
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: have you seen Pawełs mail about the site?
[19:38] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I believe he left feedback about
[19:38] <ahoneybun> *about it
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> have you seen it?
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> read it?
[19:38] <ahoneybun> I skimed it
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> what do you think of his feedback?
[19:38] <ahoneybun> I need to go though it again 
[19:39] <ahoneybun> I agree with the KTP icon
[19:39] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: doesn't it have a blue one?
[19:39] <ovidiu-florin> I know it has 4 icons, same but different colors
[19:40] <ahoneybun> I'll look now
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> also I like the idea of different sections different colours
[19:41] <ahoneybun> I don't see a blue one
[19:41]  * ahoneybun found a beer icon XD
[19:43]  * ahoneybun reads about different colors
[19:46]  * ovidiu-florin reads about wordpress themes
[19:47] <yotux> think I found a bug with kde startup
[19:48] <yotux> how to I track which package it may effect?
[19:49] <ahoneybun> yotux: does your screen show "starting version 219" ?
[19:49] <yotux> I think thta is what it says,  I 
[19:50] <ahoneybun> thats a sddm problem if it does say that
[19:50] <yotux> I can use the command startx using a virtual terminal and it loads kde.....
[19:51] <ahoneybun> yotux: the problem is that the login manager (sddm) is getting disabled
[19:51] <ahoneybun> for some reason
[19:51] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[19:51] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332
[19:51] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: check out feature tour
[19:52] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I don't see any change
[19:52] <ahoneybun> what the
[19:52] <ahoneybun> opps
[19:53] <ahoneybun> check now
[19:53] <yotux> I will not make a duplicate report thank you
[19:53] <ahoneybun> yotux: can you do something
[19:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: you broke the quoteblock
[19:53] <ahoneybun> I removed it ovidiu-florin
[19:53] <ovidiu-florin> I like the new icon
[19:53] <ahoneybun> :)
[19:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: why/?
[19:54] <ahoneybun> yotux: reboot your pc and drop to a console with ctrl+alt+f2
[19:54] <ahoneybun> and type "sudo systemctl enable sddm" then reboot
[19:54] <yotux> ahoneybun:  that is how I have been getting the GUI to start
[19:54] <ahoneybun> but not with startx
[19:54] <yotux> okay I will do that and see if it changes the outcome.
[19:55] <ahoneybun> thanks yotux
[19:55] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: the feedback
[19:55] <ahoneybun> just trying it ovidiu-florin for the moment
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> if we don't change the background to different colors on each seciton, then removing the quoteblock, oly makes it worst
[19:59] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/
[20:00] <ahoneybun> is there a css that we have ovidiu-florin?
[20:01] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Do you have a link to the current script for me?
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I don't understand your question
[20:02] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: is there a css file for the page?
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/plluwpwol
[20:03] <yotux> ahoneybun:  Using the command that you refenced has fixed the issue.  Also some of the shadowing when windows are open and closed has gone away
[20:03] <yotux> thank you
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: specific for that file, no, just general throuout the site
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: tell me what do you ant to do
[20:04] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: well we need css to color each section 
[20:04] <ahoneybun> yotux: can you confirm here please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332
[20:05] <ahoneybun> yotux: and np :)
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: yes, but we need to fix the background with for each section
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> and that requires some extra divs
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: do you want to add them?
[20:08] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: not my speciality
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> I'll add them then
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> and set the CSS for them
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> but I'm currently reading on how to fix the headers
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> to get the featured image in there
[20:11] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:29] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Should links to wiki.k.o be included or filtered out?
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: first prototype: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/kde/kubuntu-shirts-are-back/
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: also: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: filtered out
[20:39] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:39] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Check.
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: check as in check something out, or check as in roger that?
[20:41] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Check as in roger that ;)
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> we need some ideas on how to maek the featured image in the header look good
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> I'll ask around
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[21:20] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Do you know roughly how many links there are?
[21:51] <LeeJunFan> Setting of metric for wireless vs wired connections by default. Would that be knetworkmanager or Network Manager? Currently no metric is set in vivid and it causes machines with dual connections to lose connectivity.
[22:06] <billv> Howdy, I hope this is the right place for this.  Does anybody know what sort of protocol/mechanism apport uses to send it's messages?  The manual entry user-passwd combo I use for posting email won't work for apport, so I'm looking into a netcat wrapper, or other method, to get apport working.  Thanks.
[22:44] <murthy> "Add to places" in dolphin  doesn't work properly in kde 4.14.6
[23:01] <valorie> uh, why do I see ads in our feature tour?
[23:01] <valorie> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[23:02] <KDDA> where do you see the ads?
[23:04] <valorie> at the top, next to the small images, on the right
[23:04] <valorie> in gray, in tiny letters far to the right: Ads by: MediaPlayer
[23:05] <KDDA> not seeing that
[23:05] <valorie> I'll screenshot it
[23:07] <valorie> http://imgur.com/qMrnpNc
[23:07] <valorie> this is in FF
[23:08] <valorie> I don't see them in chromium
[23:09] <KDDA> something must be injecting them
[23:09] <KDDA> not one mine
[23:09] <KDDA> on
[23:09] <valorie> aside from the ads, it is awesome
[23:09] <valorie> I wonder what I've left open in FF then
[23:10] <valorie> I see those same ads frequently, so it maybe is FF itself
[23:11] <KDDA> kinda worrying!
[23:13] <murthy> valorie: oh wow, the site looks awesome!
[23:13] <murthy> valorie: I dont see ads
[23:13] <KDDA> http://i.imgur.com/TAQ9db6.jpg
[23:15] <valorie> yes, that's how it looks in chromium
[23:16] <valorie> excellent work, ovidiu-florin and ahoneybun and everybody else who contributed
[23:16] <KDDA> valorie: thats how its supposed to look!
[23:16] <valorie> indeed
[23:16] <KDDA> something is injecting ads into your browser
[23:16] <KDDA> maybe an addon?
[23:17] <murthy> NSA?
[23:18] <KDDA> probably a mediaplayer
[23:18] <KDDA> adware
[23:20] <kfunk> the feature-tour page looks a bit broken on my 1024+ wide chromium window
[23:21] <kfunk> my opinion is to try to make sure the site looks fine on 1024x768 (minimum sensible desktop window size) at least
[23:26] <soee> Plasma 5.2.2 next week :)
[23:39] <murthy> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345347
[23:52] <soee> let me check
[23:55] <soee> murthy: confirmed
[23:55] <murthy> thanks :)