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kostja_osipovt11:16
est31hello I want to request a code import12:18
est31now my question is: what do I enter as "branch name"?12:18
est31is it the "series"?12:18
est31or is it the real branches' name, thats then also usable in a lp:branchname string for bzr-builder?12:20
cjwatsonNot quite either of those exactly as you write :-)12:22
cjwatsonThe branch name is the end of the fully-qualified lp: URL, so for example lp:~cjwatson/man-db/master12:23
est31ah ok12:23
cjwatsonBut if a branch is the development focus for a project (as that example one is), then it's aliased as simply lp:man-db12:23
cjwatsonFor an import it's reasonably usual to make it be the same as whatever the branch name is in the remote system12:23
cjwatsonSo in my example, it's an import of the master branch from a git repository, so it's just "master"12:24
est31thanks12:25
est31It was about a custom git branch yes.12:26
est31any way to request older commits too? because you can enter specific revision ids, but only when the imports started, am I right?12:28
est31(I mean: the revision ids start with the first imported commit)12:29
cjwatsonUm, I don't quite understand.  The importer walks the full history.12:30
cjwatson(Or at least all the history reachable from the ref name you give it.)12:30
est31you are right, sorry.12:30
cjwatsonThat's not an option, it's an intrinsic part of doing a version control import.12:30
est31quite cool :)12:31
est31so, I want to execute pbuilder as non-root12:45
est31any way I can accomplish this?12:45
est31pbuilder-user-mode-linux complains about some tmp file not set in my ~/12:45
cjwatsonI don't use pbuilder myself; the procedure in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild should work fine though, I never run sbuild as root12:45
cjwatsonpbuilder-user-mode-linux is, I suspect, a pretty experimental thing12:46
aditya_dev_splease help how can i login into launchpad if i am windows 8 user12:57
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adidevhello, hi i am aditya from india.. i am new to launchpad..please help me to login to download code if i am a windows 8 user13:00
est31What are logs for the option: "Mail address where logs are sent to (mandatory, no default!)" inside ~/.sbuildrc?13:03
est31I'm just wondering whether it requires a mail server on localhost...13:03
cjwatsonest31: You can use the -n option to suppress saving logs and sending log mails.  But this is really not Launchpad-specific at this point.13:05
est31thanks though cjwatson any on-topic #channel I can ask for help?13:07
cjwatsonadidev: I would suggest following through the instructions at https://help.launchpad.net/Code, and then if you get stuck ask specific questions about the specific error messages you're seeing.  (I haven't used Windows seriously in 15 years, so there's no way I can give you a full walkthrough.)13:07
cjwatsonest31: Perhaps #ubuntu-packaging13:07
est31is there a way to inspect the history of a recipe?13:50
est31and when I change it, will older packages still be available?13:50
dobeyediting a recipe doesn't change what's already in the PPA14:00
dobeyi don't know if there's a way to see a log of changes to a recipe14:01
est31thanks dobey!14:03
cjwatsonYeah, we don't keep logs of old versions of recipe text, except perhaps whatever you can divine from old build logs.14:13
tewardcjwatson: ping17:04
cjwatsonteward: Please tell me what you want and I'll reply when I'm around.17:04
tewardheh17:04
tewardautoresponder.17:04
s1991Hello, I have some doubts abt packaging system.18:08
s1991Is ubutu-packaging same as debian-packaging?18:08
cjwatsonSometimes specifics differ, but in general yes.18:09
s1991cjwatson: Is it true that for making PPA first we have to create a debian pacakge?18:10
cjwatsonYes.18:11
s1991cjwatson: I followed this tutorial https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA . It doesn't specify anything abt that18:12
s1991cjwatson: Is there any tutorial which explains creating PPA ?18:16
tewardcjwatson: on the GUI frontend for git stuff - saw those screenshots, can I say that they look decent even though they're very preliminary?19:37
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cjwatsonteward: Cool, thanks.  There's definitely a long way to go, the second of those needs more infrastructure in place in order to be able to have more recent commits20:43
cjwatson(In advance of a proper integrated code browser, which I'd like to do but won't be for a while yet)20:43
tewardcjwatson: indeed.20:43
tewardcjwatson: stupid question though, why wouldn't you be able to apply the same logic as is currently used by the bzr code browser to the git side?20:55
teward(granted I have no backend knowledge, so...)20:55
teward(adapting of course for the bzr vs. git differences as you go)20:55
cjwatsonteward: We don't have an integrated code browser for bzr; only loggerhead (which you see on bazaar.l.n), which is utterly bzr-specific and not integrated into the main webapp UI22:08
tewardahh ok22:09
tewardcjwatson: thanks for the clarify :)22:09
cjwatsonteward: We'll likely start out with a similar approach for git, probably using cgit, but it's not ideal.22:09
tewardcjwatson: i think the goal should be, in my opinion, functional vs. ideal22:10
tewardfirstly22:10
cjwatsoncertainly22:10
cjwatsonwe're taking the quickest plausibleroute22:10
tewardcjwatson: same logic applies for bzr as well - ideally you'd have a proper integrated code browser for that as well, but function over idealism22:10
blrhopefully cgit won't stick around long :)22:11
tewardcjwatson: hopefully you don't mind my commenting and asking though - git functionality on LP will go a long way towards making it better for projects22:11
tewardsince a lot like git over bzr and such22:11
tewardso thank you for you and everyone's efforts22:12
teward(on both the front and backend changes)22:12
blrteward: I don't think anyone has any illusions over the current state of dvcs and where things are going.22:12
* teward shrugs22:12
blrI've only been using bzr for the last few months, but it has certainly grown on me.22:13
tewardblr: i use bzr only where needed - learned git for most things22:13
tewardbut meh22:13
tewardblr: for those who prefer git over bzr, though... :P22:13
teward(I also use bzr for my package merge debdiffs and such but that's a different matter xD)22:13
tewardcjwatson: regardless please pass on my thanks to those doing the backend development and such - I really do like the whole idea of having git in addition to bzr on LP - i'm not the only one either judging on that bug requesting it :)22:16
cjwatsonteward: We might be able to retrofit an integrated browser to bzr without too much work, but we'd need to see whether it's worthwhile.  And thanks, blr there has been doing a lot of the backend work as well as wgrant of course.22:17
cjwatsonI use almost exclusively git for my own projects outside Ubuntu/Launchpad, so I'm keen to switch myself.22:17
tewardwell then thanks to blr and wgrant :)22:18
blrcjwatson: switched to get from hg several years ago as well for personal things.22:28
blrgit even22:28
blrteward: we're certainly excited about it - it is certainly one of the most regularly requested new features for LP.22:29
tewardblr: well, i'd be happy to help alpha/beta test if you guys need public tests eventually before throwing it onto production - i'm a strong supporter of git for LP after all22:30
tewardkinda annoyed at bzr, but mostly for reasons that I won't share here 'cause Ubuntu CoC violations throughout that rant :P22:30
tewarduntil then i'll just track the bug where most of cjwatson's branches get linked to :)22:31

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