[08:18] <dholbach> good morning
[08:20] <elfy> morning
[08:22] <dholbach> hi elfy
[12:18]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[13:43] <dpm> popey, nice work with the fosdem report!
[13:46] <popey> ta
[13:54] <czajkowski> FOSDEM rocks
[13:57] <popey> yes.
[14:02] <czajkowski> I shall not be sick next year for it!
[17:57] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: here
[17:57] <mhall119> hi ovidiu-florin
[17:57] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: so what we have done in the past is just get a rough estime, is it going to be hundred or thousands of dollars, and we can approve based on that
[17:58] <mhall119> do if you know it's a trans-oceanic flight you can estimate that it'll be more than a regional flight
[17:58] <ovidiu-florin> so currently I've asked for funds and that request covest my travel and accomodation and just a few extra for food, because I don't know If I would get lunch from the event or not
[17:58] <mhall119> all we want is the chance to let you know that your expense is going to be paid, whatever it happens to be in the end
[17:59] <pleia2> ovidiu-florin: fwiw, I've never had any trouble asking for more/less in my estimated expenses when submitting my reimbursement claim, if it's going to be a lot more I just let them know (they are people, they respond to emails and are friendly :))
[17:59] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: I see it, and that's fine. though you mention it covering also another Kubuntu contributor, is the one cost estimate for both of you?
[18:00] <pleia2> so I wouldn't be paranoid about lunch or a slightly higher ticket price being an issue, just let them know that your estimate had to be changed
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: that covers the transport and acomodation for both of us, but if we don't get lunch from the event, 200 € I don't believe will be enough for food and other expenses for 10 days
[18:01] <czajkowski> ovidiu-florin: there is also this irc channel to ping a request for information
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> czajkowski: how?
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> ask people, or a bot?
[18:01] <czajkowski> ovidiu-florin: by saying hi is there someone from the community team here that can help me
[18:01] <czajkowski> I have a question
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> so people, ok then
[18:01] <czajkowski> and usually dholbach mhall119 popey dpm balloons will all be here
[18:02] <dholbach> we're quite accessible
[18:02]  * popey hides
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> and can I ask here if my estimations were wrong when I applied?
[18:02]  * balloons hides behind popey 
[18:02] <balloons> :-)
[18:02] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: yes
[18:02] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: or email msm if she's already in contact with you
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> ok, we have a saying in Romania, don't strech longer than your blanket
[18:02] <ahoneybun> mhall119: have you seen my application?
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know how long my "ubuntu blanket" is
[18:03] <pleia2> I always just chat with Michelle, she's been great
[18:03] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yes
[18:03] <ahoneybun> o
[18:03] <ahoneybun> *ok
[18:03] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: if you think you'll need extra food money, go ahead and request it
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> so I'm always afraid that my request will be two much
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> too*
[18:04] <czajkowski> ovidiu-florin: it's a fair system and the people who manage the fund are open fair and approachable for questions and to help folks
[18:04] <ahoneybun> same here ovidiu-florin
[18:04] <czajkowski> they're not trying to keep the funds for themselves
[18:04] <czajkowski> :)
[18:04] <pleia2> the requests don't go into a secret black box, if your request was denied you can chat with mhall119, dholbach and others about what you can request (I do it all the time)
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> sorry, I grew up in a capitalist world :(
[18:05] <pleia2> ovidiu-florin: we're friendly here!
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[18:05] <popey> \o/ socialism rules!
[18:05] <mhall119> hippies
[18:05] <popey> ☭ \o/
[18:05]  * mhall119 hugs you all
[18:05] <ahoneybun> XD
[18:06] <dholbach> popey, https://www.mixcloud.com/djshum/dj-shum-soviet-bossa-nova-70s/ - enjoy :)
[18:06] <popey> \o/ <3
[18:07] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: so can I request now for an increase in my funding? I don't know exactly how much would I need to survive 10 days in Spain
[18:07] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: sure, I can just update the spreadsheet if you can tell me (in PM if you'd like) how much to adjust it by
[18:07] <dholbach> ovidiu-florin, you can maybe search for "per diem" to get an idea somewhere
[18:08] <czajkowski> actually as a suggestion for the communty team
[18:08] <czajkowski> if you had a per diem in place people would know what to budget for
[18:08] <czajkowski> like when we had UDS there was a per diem
[18:08] <dholbach> czajkowski, they apply for all kinds of events
[18:08] <czajkowski> that would help people funds
[18:09] <mhall119> czajkowski: good idea
[18:09] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: I'll research and get back to you
[18:09] <dholbach> czajkowski, like "random conf in waziristan"
[18:09] <popey> also differnet in different places
[18:09] <popey> 50$ vs 50 finnish thingies
[18:09] <dholbach> and we don't know what a per diem might be, or haven't ever heard of the place or conference :)
[18:09] <mhall119> popey: yes,but we do have a list
[18:09] <pleia2> lunch in san francisco is more expensive than lunch in... anywhere else
[18:09] <pleia2> brb, $12 grilled cheese sandwich
[18:09] <popey> mmmmmm cheese
[18:10] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[18:10] <pleia2> hehe
[18:10] <popey> reminds me, I have lots of cheese for tea!
[18:10] <czajkowski> pleia2: indeed, but eating in the US in general is cheaper but then tipping kicks in
[18:10] <czajkowski> so per diem cheat sheet is useful
[18:10] <elfy> pleia2: is it real cheese? burns the roof of your mouth when cold?
[18:10] <czajkowski> some counteris produce one each year
[18:10] <czajkowski> and liek I said cnaonical did have one for UDs and for employees
[18:11] <pleia2> elfy: it is actually quite fancy grilled cheese, lots of different cheeses and breads <3
[18:11] <pleia2> (I don't actually eat it anymore, because it's terrible for me, but it's my favorite example of ridiculously priced things here)
[18:11] <czajkowski> pizza slice near my office was $5
[18:11] <czajkowski> massive slice!
[18:12] <pleia2> the valley is a bit cheaper than SF
[18:12] <czajkowski> valley is miles out :(
[18:12] <czajkowski> *sulks*
[18:13] <popey> dholbach: nice music
[18:13] <pleia2> czajkowski: oh, which office?
[18:13] <pleia2> (I thought you meant the one in california :))
[18:13] <czajkowski> my HQ in mountain view
[18:13] <czajkowski> the one in SF is very central once I figure out how to get there
[18:14] <pleia2> ah yes, caltrain + muni
[18:14] <czajkowski> 450 Mission Street #200
[18:14] <czajkowski> San Francisco, California 94105
[18:14] <pleia2> yeah, it's a block from where I live
[18:14] <czajkowski> NO WAY!
[18:15] <czajkowski> I'm back in june but will be in santa clara
[18:15] <pleia2> it's on 1st, I live between 2nd and 3rd
[18:15] <czajkowski> at the levi's stadium
[18:26]  * mhall119 is just hanging out here in the middle of nowhere Florida
[18:28]  * ahoneybun is in south florida
[18:29] <czajkowski> come to connect in June
[18:29] <czajkowski> in SF!
[18:29] <mhall119> czajkowski: sponsor me :)
[18:30] <czajkowski> mhall119: there is this community fund you can apply to :p
[18:30] <czajkowski> $99 for the 2 days
[18:30] <ahoneybun> czajkowski: you in SF?
[18:30] <czajkowski> ahoneybun: nope in the UK
[18:30] <czajkowski> am Irish and live over here
[18:30] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[18:30] <czajkowski> but I travel a  lot :)
[18:30]  * ahoneybun wishes to travel
[18:30] <czajkowski> popey: co worker of mine is going to join us the next time
[18:31] <czajkowski> he's very envious of our co working days and he's the mobile advocate wants to play with the phone
[18:32] <popey> when's the next one?
[18:33] <czajkowski> well april 16th I'm moving lock stock and barrel to godalming so before then
[18:33] <czajkowski> next week we get the keys and off work for 3 days so maybe thw following week ?
[18:33] <czajkowski> week of the 30th ?
[18:33] <popey> 30th of?
[18:33] <popey> march?
[18:33] <czajkowski> yup
[18:34] <czajkowski> 16th april we move  move
[18:34] <pleia2> woo, congrats
[18:34] <pleia2> house house! :)
[18:34] <czajkowski> picked my new ofice table out yesterday
[18:34] <czajkowski> and the paint!
[18:34] <czajkowski> white board is going up as well
[18:34] <czajkowski> new shiny room!
[18:34] <popey> gonna be a pain co-working when you move
[18:34] <popey> so inconsiderate
[18:34] <czajkowski> awww so you won't come over :(
[18:35] <czajkowski> not even to hear the snoring and have lunch cooked for you
[18:35] <czajkowski> such a fecker :p
[18:35] <popey> how far are you from the station?
[18:35] <czajkowski> uphill all the way :D
[18:35] <popey> it's 34 mins by train
[18:35] <czajkowski> I've not walked it yet
[18:35] <czajkowski> popey: plus side there is more parking
[18:36] <czajkowski> popey: get train to guildford and get Dom to drive you
[18:36] <czajkowski> WIN!
[18:36] <popey> hah
[18:36] <popey> that sounds like getting up early
[18:36] <czajkowski> it is in theory or so I'm told a 15 min walk
[18:36] <czajkowski> but it's up a very steep hill
[18:37] <popey> stuff that at 8am
[18:37] <popey> DOMINIC! TAXI!
[18:37] <czajkowski> he doesnt work at 8 when he comes here
[18:37] <popey> my first meeting of the day is 09:30
[18:38] <czajkowski> popey: pmd the postcode and address
[18:38] <czajkowski> have a gander at the distance
[18:38] <czajkowski> I'm at the station end of the town
[18:38] <popey> hmm, 27 min drive
[18:38] <popey> that'll do
[18:39] <popey> I used to commute for 3 hours on a monday morning to wales
[18:39] <popey> that was madness
[18:39] <czajkowski> that's utterly bonkers
[18:39] <czajkowski> see 27 mins to co work with us is a lot better
[18:39] <popey> I agree
[18:39] <popey> looking forward to it
[18:39] <czajkowski> WFH++
[18:39] <czajkowski> bah no bot
[18:40] <popey> ooh, beer train toon too
[18:40] <popey> *soon
[18:40] <czajkowski> yup
[18:40] <czajkowski> is the farnham festival not soone r?
[18:42] <popey> yes, you're right
[18:42] <popey> thats just after release
[18:44] <czajkowski> that'll be a cab home from farnham to Godalming :D
[18:56] <jcastro> mhall119, what are people putting in these nominations?
[19:04] <pleia2> jcastro: they're being sent to the membership board, so we don't know :) belkinsa would know
[19:04] <jcastro> ok I basically said not much, heh
[19:04] <pleia2> jcastro: the minimum required are noted on the announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2015-February/000416.html
[19:04] <jcastro> I am going for the "so old I hopefully don't need to explain"
[19:04] <pleia2> yeah, that's fine
[19:05] <ahoneybun> jcastro: I put my name, lp link, wiki link, and time for a meeting
[19:05] <jcastro> ack, good, I put those things
[19:05] <jcastro> I can commit to either or both meetings
[19:05] <pleia2> seems the 1200 meeting is the one that struggles for quorum the most
[19:05] <pleia2> we always lack folks on the board from APAC
[19:07] <jcastro> ok
[19:07]  * mhall119 got 2 nominees today \o/
[19:08] <pleia2> :D
[19:09] <jcastro> how many do we need?
[19:10] <mhall119> 7 I think
[19:10] <elfy> in total yes
[19:10] <elfy> and hi jcastro
[19:10] <jcastro> hi!
[19:10] <jcastro> so do we need 5 more?
[19:11] <elfy> afaik - 7 was you
[19:11] <jcastro> \o/
[19:11] <pleia2> well, 7 is the bare minimum to fill the seats, it's good to have more nominees than spots so we actually have choices
[19:12] <elfy> pleia2: just about to say that
[19:12] <elfy> got easier sentence to type :D
[19:13] <pleia2> not that any of the nominees are bad (I don't know who they are :)), just valuable to have choices so we make sure we have a diverse group in terms of geography/culture/gender/etc
[19:19] <elfy> yep