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didrocksgood morning06:59
seb128good morning desktopers07:02
seb128lut didrocks ;-)07:02
didrocksseb128: just a reminder that dgadomski raised during the team meeting about his email on the desktop ML (mount options in nautilus). I'm unsure myself about the best options, but would be nice if we can answer there08:34
seb128didrocks, oh, right, thanks08:35
seb128I still feel like it's too big of a topic to be realistic that we handle it downstream08:35
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seb128but we can at least get the discussion going08:35
didrocksagreed08:36
dgadomskididrocks, seb128: thanks guys, I'm aware that the scope is pretty wide, but any feedback is appreciated08:37
willcookemorning desktoppers08:58
seb128hey willcooke, how are you?08:59
seb128back from London?08:59
willcookehey mlankhorst!  Weird thing... Chromium on the N7 looks like red and blue are swapped.  Did some Googling, I think it's an oddity in Chromium, few bug reports about the same thing on Android08:59
willcookeseb128, yes!08:59
didrockshey willcooke08:59
mlankhorstwillcooke: that is probably a xmir bug :P08:59
mlankhorstwillcooke: does it happen with other opengl clients too?08:59
* didrocks starts to be worried about every lightdm starting asserts failing in autopkgtests09:00
willcookemlankhorst, any suggestions of something to try?09:00
seb128didrocks, what asserts? lightdm doesn't start anymore in vivid?09:00
didrocksseb128: from the tests, yes09:01
seb128didrocks, when did that start?09:01
didrocksseb128: no idea, that's the issue with autopkgtests. We can just say last time it pass was wednesday 11 march09:01
didrocksif only ubiquity would let me install under kwm…09:02
didrockskvm*09:02
seb128is that version blocked in proposed?09:02
* seb128 checks09:02
seb128hum, no lightdm update since the 1009:02
Laneyyo09:03
didrocksseb128: systemd is blocked, but I doubt the change making the tests failing is in systemd09:03
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?09:03
didrocksas even ubnutu5 is failing09:04
didrockshey Laney09:04
seb128didrocks, what's the issue with ubiquity/kvm? is that the vesa driver thing?09:04
didrocksseb128: or a ubiquity/X11 race, couldn't get any mouse under it09:04
didrockshad to reboot09:04
didrocks(it's installing now)09:04
seb128oh ok09:05
didrocksI'm installing a couple of week old image09:05
didrocksthat way, I will able to install, reboot, upgrade, reboot09:05
didrocksif that passes, I'll try today's iso09:05
seb128let me download the current daily here09:05
didrocksto see at least if that impacts real users09:05
didrocksseb128: there was another bug report about ddms not starting btw09:05
didrocksunder systemd and upstart09:05
seb128how are those tests working?09:05
seb128could it be "just" xorg not working under kvm?09:06
didrocksseb128: well, it does work outside of autopkgtests at least09:06
Laneyhey seb128 et didrocks09:06
seb128didrocks, are we sure?09:07
didrockshowever, I tried an autopkgtest image, installed ubuntu-desktop on it09:07
Laneya few failures on glib's depends too09:07
Laneyoh noes09:07
didrocksseb128: well, I am under kvm, I have a xorg session here, so… yes? :)09:07
seb128bug #143319809:07
ubot5bug 1433198 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "15.04 daily images don't reach X using VirtualBox - VESA error: Cannot read int vect" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143319809:07
seb128didrocks, k, several people mentioned ^ this week09:07
Laneyalso desktop images failed to build09:07
didrocksseb128: that can be a newer xorg-server issue09:07
Laneylibqt5qml5 : Depends: libdouble-conversion1 but it is not installable09:08
didrocksseb128: here, I'm on a week-old image09:08
seb128didrocks, yes, it is09:08
* Laney looks in the direction of finland09:08
didrocksso, I guess the update will tell us09:08
seb128Mirv !09:08
didrocks(I'll try to upgrade xorg independently)09:08
seb128mlankhorst, what's the status of bug 1433198?09:08
ubot5bug 1433198 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "15.04 daily images don't reach X using VirtualBox - VESA error: Cannot read int vect" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143319809:08
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/double-conversion/+bug/142767709:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1427677 in double-conversion (Ubuntu) "[MIR] double-conversion" [Undecided,Fix committed]09:09
Laneyplease to promote!09:09
didrocksseb128: at least, that will explain why I can't get an autopkgtest image, where I add ubuntu-desktop on top of it to start xorg09:09
didrockslightdm logs are quite screwy though, only "starting Xorg, Xorg stopped"09:09
didrockswith -d09:09
mlankhorstseb128: just a sec I'll upload the fix..09:09
didrocks(nothing by default)09:09
seb128mlankhorst, great, thanks09:10
mlankhorstgot distracted by optimus09:10
didrocksmlankhorst: do we have a ppa? I can at least try some autopkgtests here09:10
didrocksthat will answer if this is due to that quickly09:10
mlankhorst[PATCH xserver] int10: Fix error check for pci_device_map_legacy09:11
mlankhorstI'm confident it is..09:11
didrocksmlankhorst: I'm quite stuck on some autopkgtests to unblock systemd, so if you get some binaries ready, that would help :)09:11
mlankhorstdidrocks: sure, I'll upload in a bit09:14
mlankhorstonce test build finishes09:15
darkxst hey desktopers09:16
seb128hey darkxst09:16
darkxstLaney or seb128 can you land my fail whale fix?09:17
mlankhorstuploaded09:17
darkxstbug 138557209:18
ubot5bug 1385572 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "gnome-session not shutting down cleanly" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138557209:18
seb128Laney, double-conversion promoted09:18
Mirvseb128: !09:20
Mirvseb128: thanks for the promotion, I mistakenly thought it'd be automatic once MIR is approved and the dependency arrives09:21
seb128Mirv, apparently you bugged the desktop iso build with your qt landing, I promoted double-conversion now, but it's annoying that things land in  buggy state09:22
happyaronattente_: I wonder what's the reason of 1433831? what's the difference between unity7 and unity8 desktops?09:22
Mirvseb128: well the promotion shouldn't happen before landing either?09:22
Laneydarkxst: ok in a bit09:22
mlankhorstdidrocks: uploaded to the archive, have fun :)09:22
seb128Mirv, no, but I wonder why we hit the issue09:22
mlankhorstbbiab09:22
seb128Laney, are images built out of proposed?09:22
Laneyhappyaron: I saw that language-selector got uploaded, does it work?09:22
Laneyno09:22
Laneyproposed doesn't check components though09:23
didrocksmlankhorst: would have been great to test beforehand but ok, let's see :)09:23
seb128and if not, why are things going through proposed-migration if they are not installable?09:23
didrocksmlankhorst: also, I guess that means we need to have autopkgtests on xorg ;)09:23
Mirvis this again train overpasses certain checks thing?09:23
Laneyit's because CI train ignores them09:23
Laneyin the archive it would have been depwait09:23
seb128but train doesn't drive proposed-migration?§09:23
darkxstLaney, thanks ;)09:23
seb128Laney, so proposed-migration doesn't check that things are actually installable?09:24
LaneyI didn't say that09:24
LaneyI said that the train doesn't check component mismatches09:24
seb128I didn't say you said that09:24
seb128ah ok09:24
seb128it's installable with universe09:24
seb128ok, makes sense now09:24
Laneycorrect09:24
seb128Laney, thanks09:24
Laneyand the CI train lets main packages build with universe build deps09:24
Laneyand copies with binaries09:24
seb128Mirv, so, yeah, it's because the ci train built without respect of the pockets and land built binaries09:25
darkxstsounds more like a loophole, than a train09:25
LaneyThere's an option on the PPAs to respect components09:25
happyaronLaney: it works, but gunnar didn't tell me he's uploading that...09:25
Laneydon't know why they don't use it09:25
Laneyhappyaron: heh09:25
Laneyis this enough for all cases?09:26
didrocksLaney: it was enabled a year ago (we needed some fixes in launchpad first, which were done)09:26
didrocksbut I think they recreated new ppas09:26
didrocksso probably the option wasn't enabled back09:26
seb128Laney, larsu, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2015-March/019404.html \o/09:27
happyaronLaney: almost, there are some packages (fcitx-frontend-qt5) removed unexpectedly from /target, but in general it works. tried two installs, one for en locale, another zh_CN.09:27
seb128Laney, can you handle the landing for larsu? you followed more than me those details I think09:27
Laneyok09:27
Laneyhappyaron: alright, good, gl with the fixes09:28
Laneyprobably missing a dependency to that package09:28
happyaronguess so, haven't looked at the details09:28
mitya57Laney: if you are going to upload gnome-session, can you also look at bug 1251281?09:28
ubot5bug 1251281 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Vivid) "gnome-session-flashback/Unity fails to start without hardware acceleration in cloud/remote environments (Forwarded-X/XRDP/VNC/NX/X2GO/Chromoting)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125128109:28
larsuseb128: \o/09:29
Laneymitya57: I just went blind09:30
Laneymitya57: are you up to speed on it?09:30
Laneyif so, you can do the uploading... :)09:30
didrocksseb128: I'm skeptical about the xorg issue, I dist-upgraded an install, first with xorg, then kernel, now with everything and I'm getting to my session09:31
happyaronLaney: shall I make an upload of im-config, everybody has fcitx as default now (current im-config behaviour)09:32
mitya57Laney, yes it was on my todo list, of course I can do it myself09:32
didrocksbut let's see, I'll use adt-run -U option once xorg would have built in proposed09:32
seb128didrocks, k, I don't know then09:32
happyaronLaney: that would mean the FFe is completed though...09:32
Laneymitya57: feel free09:32
seb128didrocks, need more details I guess09:32
willcookedidrocks, Need me to build some virtual machines to test anything?09:32
Laneyhappyaron: what does the upload do?09:32
Laneydo you have a diff?09:32
happyaronLaney: make ibus default for everyone other than zh_* locales. current behaviour is: im-config prefer fcitx over ibus, but we never seed fcitx in the live cd, so ibus is default.09:33
didrockswillcooke: I don't think you will get further more than I am right now, I tend to try with the xorg fix if adt is happy again, and we'll see (already spent some hours on this)09:33
happyaronLaney: a minute09:33
willcookeoki, shout if I can pitch in some help09:33
seb128didrocks, can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/blacklist-gnome-boxes/+merge/251566 ?09:34
didrockswillcooke: will do, thanks :)09:34
seb128didrocks, I think you are in the right team09:34
seb128I'm not09:34
didrocksseb128: done09:34
seb128didrocks, thanks09:34
didrocksthanks larsu for this patch btw :p09:34
didrocksno more transparency on boxed!09:34
didrocksboxes*09:34
larsu:)09:35
seb128It's still over me why we can't fix those from the theme though :-/09:36
happyaronLaney: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/200624463/im-config_0.27-1ubuntu8.debdiff09:40
Laneyhappyaron: ok09:42
* Laney wonders why some i386 autopkgtests are having problems installing kde test deps09:44
happyarongreat09:44
willcookehey digitalalex :) How's the symmetry looking ;)09:51
* Laney eyes adt-run09:55
Laneyseems like it's hung unpacking libnotify409:56
* didrocks eyes the archive publisher09:56
didrocksI thought it was publishing every 10 minutes now09:56
* Laney eyes didrocks 09:56
didrocks(last publishing was 25 minutes ago…)09:57
* didrocks eyes Laney09:57
didrocks:)09:57
seb128ogra_ also mentioned that publisher got slower again over time I think09:57
seb128read that on some other channel09:57
seb128dunno what's going on with it09:57
didrocksah xorg missed the publishing window…09:58
seb128:-/09:59
didrocks(at least, the xorg error is the same than in the bug)10:11
seb128didrocks, you get the error now? or you mean the autopkgtest one?10:13
didrocksseb128: I used minicom to get into it while the systems are running10:15
didrockslightdm logs are really poor, (that's what is in the unit) and just says "lightdm failed to start"10:15
didrocksso I looked at Xorg logs10:15
seb128which lightdm logs?10:16
* didrocks didn't use minicom since 200210:16
seb128it has several logs, it's a bit confusing10:16
didrocksseb128: the one showing up on systemctl status10:16
didrocksso stdout, stderr + syslog forwarding10:16
seb128didrocks, k, those are not the logs I guess?10:16
didrocksbut even running it manually with --debug doesn't help apart from "xorg stopped"10:16
didrocksyeah, it doesn't print anything actually10:17
seb128didrocks, /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and x-0.log probably have more details?10:17
seb128or X-0-greeter.log10:17
didrocksseb128: I'm not in it anymore, lightdm.log got what --debug had (so not really useful in that case)10:17
seb128didrocks, the xorg errors/details are in x-0(-greeter).log10:18
didrocksnot sure about x-0.log, if it's the xorg logs, that would help I guess10:18
seb128right10:18
seb128it should10:18
didrocksthose should probably be forwarded to the journal (or rsyslog)10:18
seb128not sure10:19
seb128is syslog supposed to have the detailed logs from every service?10:19
seb128it would make it quite impossible to read10:20
didrocksit's supposed to have enough logs to know what went wrong I guess10:20
didrockslike warnings and so on10:20
seb128well, xorg log has the xorg log, even when there is no issue/error10:21
seb128but yeah, ideally real error would be fwded to the main log by some mean10:22
didrocksindeed, and that's where the issue is10:22
didrocksif they just print to stdout/stderr, it's not an issue anymore with the journal10:23
didrocksbut let's see, I'll poke robert10:23
didrocksah, finally xorg published in proposed10:23
* didrocks tries10:23
GunnarHjhappyaron, Laney: I'm in doubt as regards the debian/rules changes in im-config at bug #1430893. If I understand it correctly, fcitx won't be installed by default unless Chinese is selected. There is still a Japanase remix which ships fcitx with the intention to make it the default IM framework. Considering that, wouldn't it be better to keep debian/rules as is in 15.04?10:25
ubot5bug 1430893 in im-config (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Install Fcitx for Chinese users" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143089310:25
happyaronGunnarHj: if not doing that, all live session user will have fcitx as input method10:26
GunnarHjhappyaron: Aha...10:27
GunnarHjhappyaron: Do you have some other idea how to solve the Japanese remix issue?10:27
didrocksmlankhorst: the upgrade works and fix systemd X11-related tests!10:31
seb128didrocks, \o/10:32
didrocksmlankhorst: I really think we should have at least one autopkgtest starting lightdm and ensuring we have a xorg server running10:32
didrockswillcooke: FYI ^10:32
didrocksseb128: phew!10:32
didrocksok, now overriding the failing autopkgtests as we discussed yesterday10:32
seb128didrocks, I don't understand why you didn't get the xorg not starting issue in your vm though10:32
didrocksseb128: I don't know as well (on the whole install)10:33
didrocksprobably a driver different when starting qemu myself and under adt10:33
didrocks(I'm using direct rendering)10:33
seb128could be10:33
seb128Laney, can we get a new desktop iso built?10:33
seb128Laney, with the double lib promotion and the xorg fix seems like worth starting a new build to see where we are now10:34
didrocksseb128: xorg is still in proposed10:34
seb128oh, ok10:34
Laneyis that systemd/upstart test getting fixed?10:34
didrocksLaney: no, that was another one10:35
seb128the machine-id one?10:35
didrocksnot even :p10:35
didrocksso, there is the upstart reboot issue10:35
didrocksthat we discussed yesterday10:35
didrocksand identified the cause10:35
didrocksthen, they wanted to override the tests10:35
didrocksbut as it was one of the first test failing, I wanted that we run all the other tests still10:36
didrocksand that's how I discovered the lightdm/xorg issue10:36
Laneynobody skipped the tests10:37
GunnarHjLaney: Sorry about the l-s upload. Now I don't see the upload in the archive, neither in -proposed or -release.10:37
Laneywhat does 'rmadison language-selector' say?10:38
didrocksLaney: hence the "wanted"10:38
* didrocks feels now a little bit better on bug #1433728 should be the same10:38
ubot5bug 1433728 in systemd (Ubuntu) "white screen after boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143372810:38
Laneyhmm?10:38
didrocksI guess there was another one, commenting as well10:39
GunnarHjLaney: According to rmadison it's in vivid-proposed. (But not visible on the LP page.)10:40
LaneyGunnarHj: Click on View full publishing history and you can see that it's being copied atm10:40
GunnarHjLaney: Done. Looks promising. :)10:41
LaneyKind of surprised that this approach worked straight away. :P10:43
attente_happyaron: #1433831 i guess is because unity 7 runs X, so runs /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70im-config_launch. the upstart job requires IM_CONFIG_PHASE to be set by that11:30
attente_happyaron: and i guess the lack of initctl set-env in the job script is another bug that wasn't noticed because it already worked in unity 711:31
Mirvseb128: Laney: was there some final thought about the train vs. MIR:ing? I can add the check to my Qt landing process (to ping archive admins at the right point), but it of course affects any train landings that do similar thing11:44
LaneyMirv: Can you find out why that flag isn't set on the PPAs?11:46
MirvLaney: oh, right so why the PPA:s allow building such things?11:46
LaneyPerhaps because it's weird to promote things in the archive to satisfy builds in an external repository11:46
Mirvblocking on that in landing PPA:s would make some sense since landing PPA is a sort of proposed-proposed anyway11:47
Mirvbut then again indeed it's weird to prepromote11:47
Mirvbest would be if proposed could detect it even with copy-binaried packages11:48
Mirvanyhow, I'll add the check to my own process doc11:48
Mirv(added to https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXhsnTwzvm5p6gDbUrDpRPSJV9tX4SHCptC9yUYCMmE/edit#gid=1330430878 for 5.5)11:56
mdeslaurcharles: do I need to merge indicator-power myself, or is that handled automatically?12:00
mdeslauroh, I can't merge it12:01
mdeslaurtedg: ^ ?12:02
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LaneyGunnarHj: any problem with uploading a new version of the default wallpaper?12:44
Laneyxnox: want to check it?12:44
xnoxLaney: yo, where is it? same bug report?12:45
Laneyya12:45
GunnarHjLaney: No. We haven't changed the screenshots in the desktop guide yet, so just go ahead.12:46
Laneyty12:46
xnoxdamn12:46
xnoxi got a ticket for Election Debates with Pink News, Evan Davis and all major parties and my question got selected.12:47
xnoxbut i can't go - as I have a meeting and a volleyball match =(12:47
xnox /o\12:47
Laneymiss them!12:47
tjaaltondoes lightdm do any sort of scaling on the greeter?12:50
tjaaltonon vivid12:50
tjaaltonI've got a system with a highres panel which starts with the native resolution but the display goes blank for a second and comes back with a lower looking res, or scaled. X log doesn't show resolution changing12:51
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xnoxLaney: i approve, both pngs look good with little artifacts and better symmetry.12:53
xnoxLaney: the greeter logo doesn't align, but i ponder if the greeter is at fault here, rather than the wallpaper.12:53
seb128tjaalton, since yesterday u-s-d sets the scale factor on hidpi systems yes12:55
Laneyxnox: ok, thx12:56
Laneythe logo doesn't look equally spaced between rows to me12:56
Laneyprobably because it is heavier at the bottom12:56
Laney(independent of background image)12:56
tjaaltonseb128: ok..12:57
seb128tjaalton, is that looking wrong.12:57
tjaaltonwell it should happen earlier, it looks a bit ugly now12:58
tjaaltonthe greeter starts first with the native resolution12:58
seb128out of the transition12:58
tjaaltonunscaled12:58
seb128does the result looks fine?12:58
tjaaltonresult is ok-ish to me12:58
seb128ok-ish only?12:58
tjaaltonhaven't compared to another one with same dimensions but 1080p12:59
tjaaltoncan't keep them both powered on :)12:59
xnoxLaney: i do think it might be a greeter problem. Cause we overlay the grid pattern at an offset from the screen edges, But we should still, imho find the centre and do calculations from there12:59
xnoxto the edges, sans padding.13:00
* xnox will play with vala later.13:00
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tedgmdeslaur, Oh, I put it in a silo, but I just realized I forgot about it....13:01
tedgSilos need push notifications and to be a little more annoying ☺13:02
mdeslaurtedg: ah, thanks!13:06
qenghowillcooke: where are red and blue swapped in Cr on N7? Images? Text? Backgrounds? All? I can imagine something specific to Cr for the fractional pixels in drawing text.13:08
willcookeqengho, hey!  Just checking, I think it's everything in Cr13:10
willcookeqengho, text is, images are too13:14
willcookemlankhorst said he thought it was likely an Xmir thing13:14
mlankhorstdefinitely :P13:16
mlankhorstare you running with a compositor or without?13:16
willcookewithout I think13:17
qenghomlankhorst: Wrong visual-class or something? I'll peek in the X layer details so I can answer questions you might have.13:19
mlankhorstqengho: probably just xmir-dri2.c bugging, does it show when you run Xmir with -egl too?13:19
* willcooke tries13:22
willcookemlankhorst, same13:22
mlankhorstinteresting, I thought it would have been a bug related to dri2..13:23
mlankhorstwillcooke: what's the smallest testcase?13:24
mlankhorsteg do i need icewm or anything?13:24
willcookemlankhorst, don't need icewm in order to see the issue, so I'd say not.13:32
willcookesmallest testcase would be, install it, run it, witness the rainbow13:32
willcooke(but icewm might make things a bit easier for you, if you've got a mouse)13:32
mlankhorstok I'll take a look :P13:32
willcookethanks mlankhorst13:32
willcookeCr is surprisingly fast on this N7 btw qengho13:33
qenghoI compiled-in support for the GOFAST register.13:34
qenghoHa ha13:34
qenghoI'm not surprised, willcooke. The N7 is pretty good, aside from the terrible "disk".13:35
willcooke:D13:36
seb128bah13:38
seb128Laney, thanks for the theme landing, there was another approved branch from larsu fixing issues with the new gtk, would have been nice to land it with it, but I guess for next landing now...13:38
tjaaltonseb128: is there a way to disable scaling the greeter? sometimes it seems to take a long time to get the greeter up, and I don't want to blame the i915 driver for nothing13:44
seb128tjaalton, no13:44
tjaaltonok13:44
seb128tjaalton, move the u-s-d xsettings plugin away13:44
tjaaltonindicator menus are misplaced13:45
seb128tjaalton, the change was https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/non-unity-sessions-need-scaling/+merge/25015313:45
seb128we might want to exclude the greeter13:45
seb128the main goal was to get ubiquity/oem-setup scaling13:45
tjaaltonok thanks, I'll try that13:46
seb128tjaalton, can you open an unity-greeter bug about the menu thing?13:46
tjaaltonsure13:46
seb128thanks13:48
tjaaltonbug 143409413:50
ubot5bug 1434094 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "indicator menus are misplaced when the display scaler is used" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143409413:50
tjaaltonI had the old package cached, can try that on the other machine13:51
seb128tjaalton, thanks, I'm going to try on my non-hdpi laptop in a bit by forcing the value from u-s-d13:56
tjaaltonok it's not the scaler that's confusing my skl system but loading the background14:03
tjaaltonor whatever the greeter does14:03
tjaaltonoh well, bisect it is then14:03
desrtTrevinho is going insane14:47
desrtSTOP MAKING MY PHONE BEEP14:47
Trevinhodesrt: yeah... let's go back to IRC:.... way better :D14:48
Trevinhodesrt: mute it :P14:48
Trevinhodesrt: it's your baby...14:48
* didrocks is happy to have mute is a while ago14:48
Trevinhodesrt: your going to hate it... :D14:48
Trevinhodesrt: but.... in few days it will calm down again14:48
desrtTrevinho: my baby is all grown up14:48
desrtTrevinho: ya.. no doubt14:48
desrtthis happened in brussels as well :)14:48
Trevinhodesrt: someone had to do this dirty job at some point14:48
desrti'm sort of glad there is a hard limit at 200 :p14:49
Trevinholol14:49
mlankhorstupdating my xmir setup, lightdm fails to log in probably because i haven't updated since systemd switch :P14:52
davmor2seb128: quick question that you might be able to help with, On vivid desktop where are audio cd's mounted there is nothing in media, but if I plug in a usb device that shows in media15:06
seb128davmor2, audio cds are not data, they are not really mounted in the fs meaning, what would you want to see in /media exactly?15:07
davmor2seb128: I just expected to see  a folder for it in media :)15:10
seb128davmor2, yeah ... but no ;-)15:10
seb128NOTABUG15:10
seb128we could create a folder but it would be empty since there is no file on the disk15:11
davmor2seb128: I didn't think it was a bug I just figured it lived somewhere else for audio cd's :) but now it appears they don't mount as such,   learn something new everyday :)15:11
seb128oh ok15:11
seb128well, it's a gvfs mount on the desktop15:11
seb128it's a bit like if you mount a smb share15:12
davmor2seb128: ah okay thanks15:12
seb128those don't have entries in the local fs15:12
davmor2seb128: that makes more sense now  ta :)15:12
seb128yw!15:12
mlankhorstwillcooke: it shows the correct colors here?15:27
willcooke?!?!15:27
willcookeI'll risk an upgrade and see if that helps15:28
mlankhorstxserver-xorg-core and xmir in archive are newer, need to downgrade afterwards if you do15:28
mlankhorstapt-get install xserver-xorg-core=2:1.17.1-0ubuntu2+sa8 xserver-xorg-core-dbg=2:1.17.1-0ubuntu2+sa8 xserver-xorg-xmir=2:1.17.1-0ubuntu2+sa815:29
mlankhorstsomething like that15:29
willcookethx15:29
willcookedarn - ran out of space upgrading.15:36
mlankhorst:/15:37
mlankhorstI don't see it happening on the desktop, could you give the spam Xmir gives on startup?15:37
willcookeoops - device rebooted -> brick15:40
willcookeI'll have to reflash15:40
willcooke\o/15:40
mlankhorstoke, bbiab then :P15:41
willcooke:D15:41
mlankhorstcan't wait to test if I fixed my little tegra or not15:41
mlankhorsttested all day on radeon + intel, almost the same thing :p15:41
mlankhorstjust different hw15:41
mlankhorstbb15:42
Laneydidrocks: https://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85572btw15:42
ubot5Freedesktop bug 85572 in core "Call /bin/dbus-uuidgen in systemd unit file" [Enhancement,Needinfo]15:42
Laneywith a space15:42
Laneywow15:42
Laneyclever bot15:42
* qengho afk. transit cafe->home.15:44
Laneyattente_: I just tried this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-themes/1285783/+merge/227768 and it doesn't seem to fix gnome-tweak-tool for me16:23
Laneyhas it bitrotted?16:23
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attente_Laney: i guess so, but gnome-tweak-tool is working for me on my machine16:26
attente_Laney: gnome-tweak-tool is transparent for you without it?16:27
Laneyya if I change tabs it goes transparent16:29
willcookemlankhorst, reflashed, getting segfaults when running xmir, I guess that means I installed the wrong versions of xmir etc?16:29
attente_Laney: weird. it's not doing that for me16:29
Laneyerm!16:30
Laneysomeone else try plz16:30
attente_Laney: oh. no overlay-scrollbars here is why....16:31
Laneytsk tsk16:32
attente_ok... still working even with o-s...16:35
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Laney...16:38
Laneylarsu: confirm/deny this? :)16:38
attente_Laney: ok, gotta downgrade my gtk. it's at 3.15.5~20150206.r1+git0b06b1e-0ubuntu116:40
Laneyhaha16:40
Laneywould be a bit strange if that got randomly fixed though?16:40
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attente_Laney: strange indeed. downgrading broke it :(16:43
attente_time for some bisection16:44
Laneywait16:46
Laneyattente_: we don't have your patch ...16:46
attente_Laney: the one that sets the background on gtkstack?16:47
Laneyor did they rework this upstream?16:47
attente_i thought it went upstream16:47
Laneyah wait, Company changed it16:47
Laneyyeah we have this16:48
attente_it might be that Company's change broke it again for us16:48
Laneyyou said it works in 3.1516:49
Laneyunless there was some followup16:49
attente_yeah, it works with 3.1516:49
Laneyso probably not this change16:50
Laneyho hum16:50
attente_ok, i'll bisect it to find what happened16:50
Laneythanks16:50
Laneyno big rush if you're doing other things16:50
willcookemlankhorst, ignore my last comment about segfault. Seems I've installed a version based on V.  Fixing....16:51
willcookeLaney, looks like we'll be clouded out for the eclipse tomorrow morning16:53
larsuLaney: I can neither confirm nor deny this16:53
attente_larsu: it's ok. it's confirmed, looking into it now16:53
Laneywillcooke: some chance of breaks in the cloud mid-morning so some know it all on Facebook is saying16:54
Laneyvisibility is pretty shite out there currently16:54
Laney#smog16:54
willcookesame here16:55
willcookeI wonder if Easyjet fly from Luton the the Faroe Islands16:55
Laneyjust fly anywhere16:56
Laneyas long as you're in the air at the right time16:57
Laney:D16:57
willcookeand going roughly north16:57
Laneyanywhere north ish I guess16:57
willcookeEdinburgh here I come...16:57
didrocksLaney: yeah, so can't go upstream16:58
didrocksLaney: I guess that's fine, we'll handle the transition and remove the distro-patch once we are ok16:58
LaneyMaybe we should man up and fix this instead16:58
Laneyi.e. not patch16:59
larsuLaney: 'man up'. srlsy?16:59
didrocksLaney: patches welcome :)16:59
Laneysigh16:59
didrocksI think greeping through the archive16:59
didrocksbut TBH enoughtodo for now16:59
LaneyI have been providing patches.16:59
didrocksfor apps?17:00
didrocksI mean: we need to grep the whole archive source17:00
didrocksfor the file17:00
didrocksand then fix and send upstream for every app to use /etc/machine-id if the dbus-id isn't present17:00
Laneysounds good17:02
didrocksyeah, just for now, I'm happy that we have a fix, and then, I agree the longer term solution would be to fix the apps17:03
didrockslet's see if we can get a grep of the archive tomorrow to see if it's a disaster or not17:03
didrocksat least, we have an intermediate solution17:03
happyaronattente_: I see systemd --user is launched, is systemd user session being used now? if so we might want to write a .service file instead17:48
attente_happyaron: seb128 said we're still using upstart in the user session iirc17:48
didrockshappyaron: clearly not ready for wider consumption yet17:49
happyaronok17:49
* didrocks waves good evening18:08
Laneybye didrocks!18:08
didrockssee you tomorrow Laney :)18:08
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* willcooke -> EOD o/18:22
thumperis there any way to clear the OSD notification buffer?20:01
thumperthunderbird went crazy and added a bunch20:01
thumperI closed thunderbird but the popups are still showing...20:01
robert_ancellseb128, how are you with rebuilding ubuntu-meta? I've changed the ubuntu.vivid seed to use the new Indic font packages but ./update doesn't change anything in ubuntu-meta. Never had any trouble with it before so not sure why it's not working20:02
larsuthumper: kill notify-osd. it'll get restarted next time you receive a notification20:02
thumpercheers20:03
seb128robert_ancell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement20:22
robert_ancellseb128, yeah, I've read that. Not sure what I'm missing...20:23
seb128" run the update script in the appropriate source package and upload it "20:23
seb128did you try that?20:23
robert_ancellseb128, yes, and that doesn't update it for some reason20:24
seb128get the current source, it should have a script20:24
seb128k, dunno then, I didn't try for ages20:24
seb128you might have more luck on #ubuntu-devel20:24
robert_ancellYeah, it always just used to work magically for me.20:24
robert_ancellk20:24
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