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=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
popeyYo!13:03
popeyPeople will start receiving real phones with Ubuntu installed this week (some already have).13:03
popeyAre we still pushing users to #ubuntu-touch? Is that the "best" thing to do?13:03
k1l_imho yes13:06
k1l_since its different from the "regular" desktop usage.13:07
popeydo we push people with apache problems to #ubuntu-server?13:08
popeyor deal with them in #ubuntu until they get too complex, and then throw them to -server?13:08
k1l_if no one knows the answer: yes13:08
k1l_"you could ask in -server since that is more spcific channel for that tasks"13:09
k1l_i mean just think of the scenario the other way: a user with touch questions joins #ubuntu and doesnt get answers since no other got a clue about that.13:09
k1l_or you get the whole touch team to join #u and help to help the touch users there :)13:14
Tm_Tpopey: we're getting nearer to the point when leading people away from #ubuntu for touch by default makes no sense13:24
Tm_Tbut I don't think we're there yet13:24
Tm_TI wouldn't ask anything touch related on #ubuntu13:24
k1l_uuhimhere is a known troll and Lord_Fark_II uses same ip. both warned, kicked etc several times15:17
ikoniafor gods sake.15:18
popeyuuhimhere was the oddball in #jollamobile and #ubuntu-touch playing people off against eachother last week iirc.15:19
k1l_yep15:19
k1l_and not very helpfull in #u at all15:19
ikoniawhy do they do this ?15:19
k1l_schools out and they are bored?15:20
ikoniapopey: as you're close to the phone stuff, where would you like to see the phone support go, seperate from the core OS, or linked in to the OS channel15:42
popeyI really don't know, hence asking :)15:45
ikoniagot an opinion ?15:45
popeyI think it really depends on what support volunteers are willing to do.15:45
popeyIt's possible some of them have bought phones.15:46
popeyAnd one day, someone comes in and says "what's the email client on ubuntu"15:46
ikoniaI'd like to see it split personally if you're interested15:46
popeyto which everyone says "thunderbird" and one lone phone user says "dekko"15:46
geniiikonia: Maybe I'm just crabby today but corlepuzo_ is starting to really annoy me15:46
ikoniahow is #ubuntu-touch for support/community these days ?15:46
ikoniagenii: and me15:46
popeythe problem with -touch is that it's not just a support channel15:46
popeyit's used for all kinds of discussion15:47
popeyit's kinda #ubuntu and -ot combined15:47
ikoniapopey: #ubuntu-phone forwards to touch right ?15:47
ikoniacould we re-use #ubuntu-phone ?15:47
popeyI'd rather we had something like +1 for support15:47
ikonia#ubuntu-touch-support ?15:47
popeyi think that would be even more confusing to have -phone and -touch15:47
ikoniaa fair point15:47
* genii ponders #ubuntu-touch+15:53
ikoniaif it's going to be just support, it would be good to have the word support in it to be clear15:54
ikoniaespecially as touch has a wide range in it's topic15:54
FlannelA surge of people seeking support in -touch will work the "support vs social" question out by itself15:54
geniiRight now it's pretty much a catch-all channel15:54
ikoniaI think popey would like it to stay yas not support15:55
ikoniabut general discussion15:55
FlannelUntil channels get large, they don't need to be one or the other.  You can have a support channel that allows discussion, etc.15:56
ikoniaI don't disagree, just depends what people want though15:56
ikoniawin 415:56
ikoniaoops15:56
Picifyi, the new openssl packages are being built and tested, if anyone asks.  ETA is sometime later today for them going out15:57
geniiSomeone was asking earlier in -server about the latest OpenSSL CVE fixes15:58
Piciit was the same person that ended up asking in -hardened and from where I stole my answer from.15:58
k1l_uuhimhere> hey what is xrdp anywsy  << from pm now. just to make clear he was giving nonsense advices all the time16:18
geniiHeh16:19
bazhangthats the derping guy16:47
bazhangaka why_am_i_banned16:49
bazhangno WAY thats a troll nick16:49
popeyno17:09
popeythat was someone else17:09
popeythat was studio_17:09
k1l_yes, with the german ip.17:09
bazhang<fgfdg> its not my link19:02
bazhangobi wan kenobi19:03
bazhangsticksave on raspbian!19:14
PiciI'm not sure if what he is asking is on-topic... but #ubuntu isn't busy right now either. *shrug*19:14
bazhang<bananapi> Hi there, does anybody know why Lubuntu on my banana pi can't play system sounds?20:34
elkyhrm, now i want a banoffie pie20:34

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