[04:27] <barrydk> More almal
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[06:37] <Padroni> Morning all
[06:38] <Jacques_Stry> Morning Padroni
[06:39] <Padroni> hi
[06:39] <Padroni> just posted a short how-to
[06:39] <Padroni> go look
[06:41] <Jacques_Stry> Probably the most important how-to on the blog :)
[06:41] <Padroni> lol
[06:41] <Padroni> I had to do that this morning
[06:41] <Jacques_Stry> Can't live without that
[06:41] <Padroni> so decided on the spot to add it
[06:42] <Padroni> the site is growing nicely though?
[06:42] <Jacques_Stry> Yea
[06:46] <Padroni> I need to fix the og: tags so it doesn't toss out in FB
[06:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:52] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, magellanic_ on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy to see this post: https://plus.google.com/+MarkClarke/posts/ZDXQ8CxAjHK" 6 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 59 seconds ago
[06:54] <Padroni> There, done
[06:54] <Padroni> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:59] <Padroni> hi Kilos
[06:59] <Kilos> morning Padroni  and others
[07:15]  * Padroni farts and looks at Kilos
[07:15] <Padroni> why...?
[07:15] <Kilos> why what?
[07:16] <Kilos> lol 
[07:17] <Kilos> dont expect me to remember things so early man
[07:18] <Kilos> Padroni  ^^
[07:18] <Padroni> lol
[07:18] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  wb
[07:18] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> fanks :)
[07:19] <pieter2627> hi Kilos
[07:19] <Kilos> hi danfowler  
[07:22] <inetpro> good mornins
[07:22] <inetpro> oh and welcom back ThatGraemeGuy
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> ty
[07:23] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[07:23] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  we have a request when you have time please
[07:24] <Kilos> minetest doesnt allow new users to build
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> no it doesn't
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> they need to be granted privs
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> or i can just add to defaults if you want
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't think you are likely to have random people just stumbling on the server details
[07:25] <inetpro> Kilos: there you have it, it's not even a bug, it's a feature
[07:25] <Kilos> what do9 you suggest, its safer to grant privs when we know the guy right
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> probably
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> I can make so that you can grant people interact
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> interact is the priv that allows you to build, ,dig, etc
[07:26] <Kilos> or we can ask you
[07:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can, but if I'm not around it becomes a hassle for all involved
[07:27] <Kilos> ok ill do it if you explain nicely so i dont mess up
[07:28] <Kilos> is it just a command in the chat window
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, /grant Player interact
[07:29] <Kilos> cool ill do that then when you arent here ty
[07:30] <Kilos> the pro must just remember what i must do
[07:30] <Kilos> hehe
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone else i should give access to?
[07:30] <Kilos> maybe inetpro  would be good because he runs a home game too so is always busy
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> done
[07:31] <Kilos> ty
[07:31] <inetpro> ai!
[07:32] <Kilos> wat ai! jy nou weer
[07:32]  * inetpro hasn't played for months
[07:32] <Kilos> you keep adding to my plate so im just returning the favour
[07:32] <Kilos> just remember the command man
[07:33]  * Kilos hides
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> or just make a note of it in a text file called "Crap I'm sure I'll forget.txt"
[07:33] <Kilos> lolol 
[07:34] <Kilos> it would be massive
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> start a personal wiki using tiddlywiki
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> still one file but more easy to navigate
[07:35] <inetpro> Kilos: just post it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos/reminders
[07:35] <Kilos> i like the idea, i have saved stuff like that all over the place with their own names now i can group them
[07:35] <Kilos> nono i dont want everyone to see how doff i am
[07:36] <Kilos> easier here and backed up to external
[07:59] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  whats news with your adsl
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> Fixed on monday
[07:59] <Kilos> yay
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> guys 2 blocks from me have got calls to advise of potential service interruption during upgrades
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> they are slowly moving people from DSLAMs onto MSANs
[08:02] <Kilos> i spose everyone is waiting for me to ask what that is
[08:02] <Kilos> ok what?
[08:02] <Kilos> all these nym thingsget outa hand
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> DSLAM = supports ADSL up to 10M, MSAN = VDSL up to 40M or fibre
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> although we're not in a designated fibre area yet
[08:03] <Kilos> cool
[08:04] <Kilos> so you will get 40M before even going to fibre
[08:04] <Jacques_Stry> yea
[08:04] <Jacques_Stry> yea
[08:04] <Kilos> great
[08:04] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[08:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> nah i probably won't, too expensive
[08:04] <Jacques_Stry> Lol hey Kilos
[08:05] <Jacques_Stry> what line you on atm?
[08:05] <Kilos> ai! theres always some catch hey, but 10M is good
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope too expensive
[08:05] <Kilos> wow 
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm on 2M, not paying more than that
[08:06] <Kilos> cost?
[08:06] <Jacques_Stry> R400 for uncapped
[08:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm not one of these "DOWNLOAD ALL THE INTERNETS" maniacs :)
[08:07] <Kilos> ya i download min too
[08:07] <Jacques_Stry> I'm one of the "DOWNLOAD ALL THE INTERNETS" maniacs then :)
[08:07] <Kilos> so my 3g is actually good compared to that
[08:07] <Kilos> lol
[08:08] <Jacques_Stry> I do about 500-550gb per month
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> uhmmm R449 I think
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> 2M, 90GB cap and 360GB for midnight to 6 a.m.
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can do 90GB on your 3g? :)
[08:09] <Jacques_Stry> That telkom line rental - dsl rental and isp?
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> voice line excluded
[08:09] <Kilos> i stretch a 2+1 over 2 months for R149
[08:10] <Kilos> normally some of the +1 expires anyway
[08:10] <Jacques_Stry> ThatGraemeGuy: Why don't you get uncapped? R397 for dsl + isp
[08:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> because capped accounts are not shaped
[08:12] <Jacques_Stry> OK true - unshaped uncapped is R497
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> like I said I don't have to download the internet
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> its senseless
[08:14] <Kilos> just good enough for minetest would be lekker
[08:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> is the mtn signal still crap for you there Kilos?
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> mine was terrible for years but I noticed now when my ADSL was off again I was getting HSDPA, 10-15M down constantly
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> must've upgraded a cell or two near me
[08:20] <Kilos> i havent checked ThatGraemeGuy  but thew vodacom one sucks
[08:20] <Kilos> sis had no bb internet or tab internet for 4 months now unless she shares my 3g with wifi
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> eish
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> still a lot of residentail development happening in my area, which is likely what spurred mtn on to upgrade
[08:21] <Kilos> but they keep foning her and giving her data and airtime the fools and fone her and ask her to please not leave them but be patient
[08:22] <Kilos> what can mtn offer that i dont get from telkom
[08:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> not mtn themselves, axxess and afrihost
[08:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> same network
[08:23] <Kilos> ah
[08:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> axxess cheaper for lower usage, afrihost works out better for more usage
[08:24] <Kilos>  i think cellc has gone lte here but i dont like them
[08:24] <Jacques_Stry> My mobile data is with afrihost
[08:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> axxess has 2+2GB for R139
[08:24] <Kilos> ah
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> afrihost has an add-on called afrihost plus that doubles your data for R99
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> so their packages become cheaper if you want 6GB or more
[08:25] <Kilos> also here in ptown ive found the support from 8ta is so much better than mtn cellc and vodacom was when i used them
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> you get the 3GB deal for R145, add R99 to double it, 6GB for R244
[08:26] <Kilos> that sounds good 
[08:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[08:26] <Jacques_Stry> And you get unlimited music streaming with simfy
[08:26] <Kilos> let me check on what their signal is like here
[08:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> I don't use a ton of mobile so I just have a 1+1GB
[08:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> got adsl at home and 100M fibre at work
[08:27] <Kilos> move to work hehe
[08:28] <Kilos> build an addon house
[08:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol right
[08:29] <Kilos> things will get better though, maybe just not cheaper
[08:34] <Kilos> only prob with the + bundles is the time. telkom is midnight till 7am and the others are till 6am i think
[08:35] <Kilos> good for at but too late for gaming or so
[08:35] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  
[08:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> axxess' is just a plain double
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> pay for 2, get 4
[08:36] <Kilos> ya thats good ill look at it
[08:37] <Kilos> just need to see if mtn has upgraded this tower , was useless on edge
[08:38] <Kilos> hi Rynomster  
[08:40] <Rynomster> hey Kilos
[08:52] <magellanic> greets
[08:57] <Kilos> hi magellanic  
[09:06] <Kilos> eish the tweet place keeps nagging ubuntuza to follow peeps
[09:07] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry  you also helped with the za site hey?
[09:08] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[09:08] <TinuvaMac> hi Kilos
[09:09] <Jacques_Stry> Not really
[09:09] <Kilos> oh
[09:09] <Kilos> why not
[09:10] <Jacques_Stry> Kilos: Haven't gotten to figuring nikola out yet
[09:10] <Kilos> lol
[09:10] <Jacques_Stry> I should make that a priority >.<
[09:10] <Jacques_Stry> Because it looks pretty nice
[09:10] <Kilos> ok ill add you to the trello think to do that
[09:11] <Kilos> you must see the new site
[09:11] <Kilos> its wonderful even though just started
[09:11] <Kilos> our fly is so clever
[09:21] <Kilos> does not really =how long is a piece of string?
[09:33] <Jacques_Stry> ??? how long is a piece of string ???
[09:35] <Padroni> There seems to be an overflow of STUPID today
[09:35] <Padroni> I hate having to take support calls :(
[09:36] <Jacques_Stry> At work here too, starting to give people very short answers here because anything longer won't go well
[09:36] <Padroni> we got one person on leave
[09:36] <Padroni> so I am helping the support guys with calls
[09:37] <Kilos> haha Jacques_Stry  when i ask pro about stuff like how important can such a small thing be thats his answer
[09:37] <Kilos> patience Padroni  
[09:37] <Kilos> remeber diplomatic
[09:37] <Kilos> Maaz  diplomat
[09:37] <Maaz> A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip
[09:37] <Jacques_Stry> haha Kilos: I should start using that line to answer stuff at work
[09:38] <Padroni> There's no diplomacy in IT
[09:38] <Kilos> every little bit from every where all adds up
[09:38] <Padroni> we all have god complexes
[09:39] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[09:40] <Kilos> be careful of that
[09:40] <Kilos> being humble is always the best way
[09:41]  * Padroni notes Kilos has never worked in tech support
[09:41] <Kilos> when peeps really upset you just disconnect them and then say sorry you were disconnected, lets start again
[09:43] <Jacques_Stry> haha like telkom does when you grief them too much
[09:43] <Kilos> yeah
[09:44] <Kilos> if you build your image in a nice kind way peeps soon learn that arrogant approaches dont work
[09:46] <Kilos> afterwards they will fone and ask to speak to that nice helpful guy, and not be arrogant when they ask for help
[09:46] <Kilos> one has to lead by example
[09:54] <Kilos> confronting arrogance with more arrogance makes thing escalate
[09:55] <Padroni> anyway
[09:55] <Kilos> lol
[10:13] <pieter2627> lol to that def
[10:34] <Padroni> My wife just told me I have to help with a braai at the school tomorrow
[10:34] <Padroni> Told her fine - I am bringing my own beer though
[10:34] <Kilos> lol enjoy
[10:34] <Padroni> she replies: No alcohol on school grounds
[10:34] <Kilos> oo long day for you
[10:34] <Padroni> So I mailed her back: This does not sound like the type of braai I get invited to then.
[10:35] <Kilos> shame
[10:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> i hear there's a 12-step program for that
[10:35] <Padroni> getting alcohol into school?
[10:35] <Kilos> lol
[10:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, alcoholism
[10:35] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:36] <Padroni> Those 12-step program is for people who needs help
[10:36] <Padroni> I don't.
[10:36] <Padroni> I drink beer because I like it.
[10:36] <Padroni> Not to cope.
[10:37] <Padroni> I drink Whisky to cope.
[10:37] <Padroni> Better than beer.
[10:37] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:37] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[10:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> yet no beer is enough to not bother helping a school
[10:38] <Kilos> ive learned to cope by coming here for some laughs every day
[10:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> its cheaper than beer thats for sure :D
[10:38] <Kilos> oh Padroni  that beer i told you about is crat beer
[10:38] <Kilos> craft
[10:38] <Padroni> ThatGraemeGuy:  You get I was joking with her right?
[10:39] <Padroni> yes, Kilos
[10:39] <Padroni> the craft beer movement is quite big 
[10:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> I did, but obviously you thought I was deadly serious
[10:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> so I'll just stfu I guess :)
[10:39] <Kilos> ya even a big program on the idiot boxes about it
[10:40] <Padroni> your feelings get hurt way to easy, ThatGraemeGuy
[10:40] <Padroni> you need to relax
[10:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> my what now? o_O
[10:41] <Padroni> lol
[10:41] <Kilos> its funny how little women manage to order big men around
[10:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think you have lost the plot somewhere
[10:47]  * TinuvaMac smiles
[10:48] <TinuvaMac> love the strange convos that happen on irc
[10:48] <Kilos> lol
[11:14] <Jacques_Stry> Shame that we can't see the eclipse
[11:15] <Kilos> eish /me got a major job to do
[11:15] <Kilos> eish eish eish
[11:17] <Kilos> repair a hp laptop with win7 on and got the blue screen of death
[11:17] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:17] <Kilos> easy cure is to wipe and install ubuntu but the kids need their win7 stuffs for school
[11:18] <Kilos> please feel sorry for me guys
[11:19] <Kilos> i donk even know how to switch the thing on
[11:19] <pieter2627> Sorry??? I'm happy that it is not me :P
[11:20] <Kilos> lol
[11:20] <Kilos> i love this kind of work
[11:20] <Jacques_Stry> haha my job everyday - 200+ win computers here - ouch enjoy
[11:21] <Kilos> eina
[11:21] <Kilos> first lappy ive had to look at that wasnt working
[11:22] <Jacques_Stry> BSOD on lappy are always a pain - could be software or hardware and if it's hardware then sometimes there's not much you can do but chuck it
[11:22] <Jacques_Stry> so what is the symtoms - BSOD on boot or just random times
[11:22] <Jacques_Stry> symptoms*
[11:23] <pieter2627> Viruses run Win on - it likes them alot - so just fetch one from nearest hospital
[11:23] <pieter2627> turn not run
[11:24] <Kilos> im still charging battery. its been parked for 3 months so ill do that first i think
[11:25] <Kilos> i think from what sis say its blue on boot
[11:25] <Kilos> its one of her friends grandchildrens
[11:29] <Kilos> thats why im on ubuntu, 
[11:31] <Kilos> if i cant get it going on its own ill remove the drive and put it on an adapter here then try save what needs saving and wipe the rest
[11:32] <Jacques_Stry> Blue on boot - ouch, well if has a factory reset option then that helps a bit, just make a backup first as you said
[11:32] <Kilos> ya i think so
[12:01]  * Kilos has a request. Anyone know our links to the files and pics for making flyers etc for events
[12:10] <Jacques_Stry> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Materials
[12:11] <Jacques_Stry> http://spreadubuntu.org/
[12:11] <Jacques_Stry> Is what I could find
[12:11] <Kilos> ty Jacques_Stry  
[12:11] <Kilos> we had our own za peeps links too
[12:11] <Kilos> inetpro  will know them
[12:12] <Kilos> but he is ignoring me again today
[12:12] <Kilos> sigh
[12:12] <Jacques_Stry> He'll probably answer you late with "man loco" or something
[12:12] <Jacques_Stry> later*
[12:13] <Kilos> lol
[12:13] <Kilos> you learn fast
[12:14] <Kilos> oh news on the lappy is that it boots up to where it says please wait then starts all over
[12:15] <Kilos> like its lost something on the way and must go look again
[12:17] <Jacques_Stry> I would load a live distro and do some hardware tests to rule out hardware faults
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> Else reloading software would just be wasting time
[12:19] <Kilos> a live ubuntu?
[12:19] <Kilos> oh i actually have a win7 dvd somewhere here too
[12:20] <Jacques_Stry> well should help to see if live ubuntu works but I usually test with something like stresslinux
[12:20] <Kilos> but dunno how to use the win stuff to test anything
[12:20] <Kilos> oh ya i have stresslinux somewhere as well
[12:29] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry  i got it to go to some menu with hitting esc on booting now i clicked recovery, and it warns drive will be restored to factory state, does that mean it loses everything user related
[12:30] <Jacques_Stry> Yes
[12:30] <Kilos> eish thats no good
[12:31] <Jacques_Stry> it will return to original factory state
[12:31] <Kilos> let me first fetch stuff then
[12:39] <magellanic> Jacques_Stry: stress linux looks cool, do you just run the "stress" command to test or is there any other useful things there that you do?
[12:42] <Jacques_Stry> I would usually just run a stress and see if it bombs out or the galaxy implodes on itself. If not we know the hardware still seems to be semi stable so problem should be software and a factory reset should fix
[12:45] <magellanic> okay cool :p
[12:45] <magellanic> we have a problem pc in the office, busy getting stresslinux to run on it
[12:45] <Kilos> im gonna run stress linux first then
[12:46] <Kilos> its a HP 620
[12:46] <magellanic> yeah always better to rule out the hardware
[12:48] <Kilos> yay at least that boots
[12:48] <Kilos> oh my
[12:49] <Kilos> kernel panic not syncing
[12:49] <Kilos> maybe my stresslinux is sick
[12:51] <Jacques_Stry> do a memtest from ubuntu disk
[12:51] <Jacques_Stry> probably bad ram
[12:51] <Kilos> ok
[12:51] <Kilos> ty
[12:51] <Jacques_Stry> np
[12:58] <Jacques_Stry> going home - see in a bit
[12:58] <Kilos> ok
[12:58] <Kilos> go safe
[13:00] <Kilos> eish this notebook thing is so slow
[13:00] <Kilos> must have min ram methinks
[13:06] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[13:07] <kulelu88> Hi oom
[13:23] <Kilos> kulelu88  /j #minetest-za
[13:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://i.imgur.com/TOxG3Na.png
[13:26] <Kilos> ah ThatGraemeGuy  thats hopefully something to look forward to
[13:31] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Clone  wb
[13:31] <kulelu88> is minetest working now?
[13:32] <Jacques_Clone> Hey, so any luck with notebook?
[13:32] <kulelu88> Does anybody recall the website where we can check outstanding car tickets?
[13:32] <kulelu88> oh yes, it's the dom aarto website
[13:33] <Kilos> im trying to get the stuff off it first Jacques_Clone  
[13:33] <Jacques_Clone> K
[13:33] <Kilos> stupid ubuntu dvd didnt show me memtest so im moving stuff off first
[13:37] <Kilos> Jacques_Clone  there should be one folder with all user related stuff in isnt it?
[13:37] <Kilos> like docoments and settings or something
[13:37] <Kilos> documents
[13:39] <Jacques_Clone> Yea c://users/*profile_name*/
[13:39] <Kilos> cool ty ill just copy that then
[13:40] <Kilos> but the thing is so slow
[13:40] <Kilos> my dual core is ten times faster
[13:44] <Jacques_Clone> 😂 
[13:44] <Kilos> must have min ram
[14:19] <Jacques_Clone> Going to a farm so might dc a few times 
[14:24] <Kilos> np
[15:24] <Kilos> hi AndC  
[15:31] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:36] <Kilos> i hear some boom booms
[15:44] <Kilos> hiya gremble  
[15:45] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[15:47] <gremble> What is the chance that anyone here has a saxophone that they aren't using anymore?
[15:47] <Kilos> wow
[15:48] <gremble> What wow'ed you now Kilos ?
[15:48] <Kilos> i think your chances are slim and none but who knows
[15:48] <gremble> :P
[15:48] <Kilos> maybe the fly's brother
[15:48] <gremble> There is no harm in asking
[15:49] <gremble> I want to learn to play, but I have to get a cheap one :P
[15:49] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:50] <Kilos> i can play everything, but i use vlc
[15:50] <Kilos> hehe
[15:51] <Kilos> look on bid or buy maybe you hit a luck
[15:52] <Kilos> gremble  what do you call cheap
[15:52] <Kilos> http://www.olx.co.za/q/saxophone/c-243
[15:53] <Kilos> those things are expensive hey
[15:53] <gremble> Yup
[15:54] <Kilos> learn to play something cheap man like a mouth organ or flute
[15:54] <gremble> I can play the flute
[15:55] <Kilos> cool
[17:30] <magespawn> good evening
[17:30] <gremble> Hey magespawn 
[17:37] <magespawn> how you doing gremble
[17:37] <magespawn> ?
[17:43] <Kilos> ai! load shedding
[17:54] <captine> evening all.
[17:54] <captine> long time no chat.  managed to convince IT to let me run Ubuntu as my desktop at work... installed and going to try for a full day/week to see how it goes at work...
[17:55] <captine> fortunately, we have a Remote Desktop "farm" should i struggle...
[17:58] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:58] <Kilos> thats very lekker
[17:58] <Kilos> whats a remote desktop farm?
[18:02] <gremble> I am doing well thanks and yourself magespawn ?
[18:03] <gremble> Kilos: it is a server into which you can remote with vnc 
[18:03] <gremble> and then you have a dumb client
[18:03] <Kilos> ah ty
[18:05] <captine> kilos.  bunch of windows servers that load balance when you connect to them.  all with Cognos business tools and MS Office on them
[18:06] <Kilos> ouch
[18:36] <Padroni> That's nice, captine
[18:36] <Padroni> so your 'office' is on remote servers?
[18:37] <Padroni> i was thinking of setting something like that up for my house
[18:37] <Padroni> but seriously - that would be overkill 
[18:38] <Padroni> for now we have a file server and we are the only one on the block with one
[18:38] <Padroni> so when the rest of the neighborhood catches up, I will add more hardware
[18:39] <captine> lol.  we have 3 or 4 terminal servers in an IS datacentre
[18:39] <captine> mainly for our budgeting application
[18:40] <captine> all windows environment with 2 as400's
[18:40] <Padroni> on the one hand
[18:40] <captine> We are about to trial linux with Oracle Weblogic, as we have heard on linux it users more ram, but performs significantly better
[18:40] <Padroni> i am thinking I should do one or two win server certifications
[18:41] <Padroni> one the other, I don't want to work on those
[18:41] <captine> Windows admin is looking into how to get loadbalancing and high availability across the 2 weblogic servers on linux.  claims Windows is very easy to setup, but looks like a 3rd party app is needed for Linux... no idea.
[18:44]  * Padroni is busy watching Vikings Season 1
[18:44] <captine> trick now is exchange.  setup evolution on a VM and got it to sync mails etc, however, it lacks some tracking features e.g. who accepted meetings etc.  So I am likely to stick with the Exchange Web App for now.
[18:46] <Padroni> we use Zimbra at work
[18:46] <Padroni> among others
[19:02] <Kilos> i feel so sorry for peeps that have no choice but to work with windows
[19:02] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[19:03] <Kilos> inetpro  lewe jy nog?
[19:03] <Kilos> wb gremble  
[19:04] <Kilos> if you get a sax you gonna spend even less time here?
[19:06] <Guest24617> Probably. You guys don't need me :P
[19:06] <Guest24617> Why am I a guest
[19:06] <Guest24617> -_-
[19:07] <Kilos> because you keep losing contact
[19:07] <Kilos> and i always need you as a security measure when i get stuck
[19:07] <Kilos> and thats alll the time
[19:07] <gremble_> I am back
[19:07] <gremble_> With a tail
[19:08] <Kilos> lol
[19:08] <Kilos> fix your connection
[19:08] <superfly> hi
[19:12] <Padroni> hi
[19:12] <inetpro> hi
[19:12] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[19:12] <inetpro> damn!
[19:13] <Kilos> we had 1mm rain and 1 1/2 hours no power
[19:13] <Kilos> what what?
[19:13]  * inetpro thought he could silently slipstream into the conversation with the hi
[19:13] <Kilos> big dam full and little damb fool too
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <Kilos> ek watch jou
[19:14] <inetpro> lol
[19:14] <Padroni> I don't always speak
[19:14] <Padroni> but when I do
[19:14] <Padroni> it's not with you
[19:14] <Padroni> hehe
[19:14] <inetpro> how's evreyone doing today?
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you missed your meeting?
[19:15] <Kilos> aw
[19:15] <inetpro> where's that sjambok
[19:15] <Kilos> i was meant to attend i think
[19:15] <Kilos> wasnt
[19:16] <Kilos> the board membership is done by the cc
[19:16] <Kilos> no meeting to be accepted
[19:17] <Kilos> im gonna be up all night. hp running its own tests on notebook
[19:21] <Kilos> kde has spoiled me rotten, i even battle with unity now, and win7 is a nightmare to fix
[19:22] <gremble_> win7 is easy to fix
[19:22] <gremble_> You just defenestrate the computer
[19:22] <Kilos> ya boot from ubuntu and tell it delete and use whole drive
[19:23] <gremble_> whether that means throwing windows out of the computer or throwing the computer out of the window
[19:23] <Kilos> the poor granny wants all the pictures
[19:23] <Kilos> so i want to try fix her system as it was
[19:23] <Kilos> she has pics all over the place
[19:23] <gremble_> You have a grandmother still?
[19:24] <gremble_> One that knows how to use a computer?!
[19:24] <Kilos> no one of my sisters friends
[19:24] <Kilos> but they use panda as a password them wonder why it crashed
[19:25] <Kilos> many movies downloaded and music
[19:26] <Kilos> old peeps should stay off the net or at least not let the grandchildren use the lappy as well
[19:27] <inetpro> uh!
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: the MarketingTeam/Materials link was last updated on 2011-04-11 
[19:29] <Kilos> what marketing team inetpro  ?
[19:29] <inetpro> 03/19 14:01:20 -*- Kilos has a request. Anyone know our links to the files and pics for making flyers etc for events
[19:29] <Kilos> thats ok old files work too for flyers etc
[19:30] <inetpro> what do you want them for?
[19:30] <Kilos> but my maia gave me this link
[19:30] <Kilos> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials/poster?page=3&__utmt_~1=1
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: what do you want them for?
[19:31] <Kilos> if you spy on me all the time do a good job and see where else im chatting as well
[19:31] <Kilos> its for an event in mauritius
[19:31] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:31] <Kilos> maia said they are there to promote ubuntu
[19:31] <magespawn>  
[19:31] <inetpro>  
[19:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[19:31] <magespawn>    
[19:32] <Kilos> uh oh
[19:32] <inetpro> magespawn:  
[19:32] <Kilos> whats happening
[19:32] <inetpro>  
[19:32] <Kilos>  
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: ssshhhh
[19:32] <Kilos> hehe
[19:32] <inetpro> we're having a secret conversation
[19:32] <Kilos> rofl
[19:33] <Kilos> see why i love this channel
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't have magic glasses to spy on you
[19:33] <Kilos> others are madder than i
[19:33] <Kilos> sigh
[19:33] <Kilos> read ubuntu-africa and locoteams etc
[19:34] <inetpro> too much to read all that
[19:34] <Kilos> and ubuntu-mu
[19:34] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:34] <Kilos> it was a dead channel but now going again albeit weakly
[19:34] <Kilos> peeps have drifted from irc
[19:35] <Kilos> but my sjambok getting stronger
[19:36] <magespawn> computer went to sleep and would not switch the  screen back on with the external screen on at the same time
[19:36] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:36] <Kilos> you clever okes can find out how to connect a pi to a lappy screen
[19:37] <Kilos> then i might try get one
[19:37] <magespawn> some of those type of computers have a vga or hdmi connector so you could just plug it on
[19:38] <Padroni> I need a driver board for a lcd screen
[19:38] <Padroni> that I want to use as  a photo frame
[19:38] <Padroni> can't find it though
[19:38] <Padroni> can't find ANY documentation on the net about this particular LCD screen
[19:38] <Padroni> and what the pinout for it is
[19:38] <Kilos> ai!
[19:39] <Padroni> B156XW02
[19:39] <Kilos> i saw a pic where they used 4 pi's to make a super computer
[19:39] <Padroni> maybe one of you can find something
[19:39] <Padroni> I should write that RFI article
[19:40] <Padroni> but tonight I feel in the mood for nothing
[19:40] <Kilos> rfi?
[19:40] <Padroni> yeah man
[19:40] <Padroni> I told you about it
[19:40] <Kilos> oh that
[19:40] <Padroni> that one that I lost due to the f*&cking timeout on Discourse
[19:40] <Padroni> I sent my boss a written warning due to that shit
[19:40] <Padroni> he of course rejected it
[19:40] <Padroni> once again
[19:40] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <Kilos> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-VGA-DVI-Audio-LCD-controller-board-for-15-6inch-B156XW02-1366-768-lcd-panel-/180967585332
[19:43] <Kilos> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HDMI-VGA-2AV-Lcd-controller-Board-Kit-For-15-6-Inch-B156XW02-V2-1366-768-Panel/1897365390.html
[19:44] <Padroni> I know about those
[19:44] <Padroni> two problems though
[19:44] <Padroni> 1.  Price. 
[19:44] <Kilos> isnt that always the prob for us peeps
[19:44] <Padroni> 2. You need to rely on the SAPO to get it delivered.  Which means it is arriving either broken, partially eaten or incomplete
[19:45] <Padroni> that's assuming it arrives at all
[19:45] <Padroni> I don't mind the price really
[19:45] <Padroni> If I want it, I will buy it
[19:45] <Kilos> wow i saw in a paper all the piles of post lying at post offices
[19:45] <Padroni> but that is pricey when you take #2 into account.
[19:45] <Padroni> Exactly.
[19:45] <Kilos> and my membership certificate is most likely there
[19:46] <Kilos> grrr
[19:46] <gremble_> I hate it when they eat PCB's
[19:46] <Padroni> before this tossup with SAPO I used to buy reqularly from ebay
[19:48] <Kilos> ai!
[19:55] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[19:55] <kulelu88> hello
[19:56] <gremble_> Im going to go to bed now
[19:56] <gremble_> Cheers guys
[19:57] <kulelu88> tc gremble_
[20:01] <Kilos> kulelu88  i can auth you at minetest if you want to go there
[20:01] <Kilos> just tell me and ill go too
[20:04] <kulelu88> Kilos: I am on 3G failover currently. This country has failed me
[20:04] <Kilos> ok let me know
[20:23] <kulelu88> How do I check my 3G balance?
[20:23] <kulelu88> with the dongle
[20:23] <Kilos> what isp
[20:23] <kulelu88> vodacom
[20:24] <Kilos> esh
[20:24] <kulelu88> lot of lightning now and I think lines are working aslo
[20:24] <kulelu88> also
[20:25] <Kilos> i found a link long time ago for my sis, let me look
[20:25] <Kilos> http://community.vodacom.co.za/t5/Prepaid-Services/How-to-check-your-Prepaid-Data-usage-Balance/td-p/895
[20:30] <kulelu88> dankie oom
[20:31] <kulelu88> oom I can't send an SMS with the dongle 
[20:31] <Kilos> sec i look further
[20:31] <Kilos> http://community.vodacom.co.za/t5/Internet-Services/How-to-check-data-balance-on-Vodacom4me/td-p/1996
[20:32] <Kilos> she has a myvodacom link
[20:35] <Kilos> look here i think she started from here http://www.google.co.za/aclk?sa=l&ai=CtOWWzjILVYXUNomR0wXIxYD4D_TgxaoG1KWU1fUBjIqjmHMIABABYMe1_o2EJqAB5Oz84APIAQGpAhwRtzvQxHU-qgQmT9Doaij9ld3zEwy9Glqtmcwm9P0Tq5v3__4xSwJeLBqH70UUYHaAB4STgx-IBwGQBwKoB6a-G9gHAQ&sig=AOD64_0RADZ74AaydvW-SYIyRsWPGGJ6RQ&rct=j&q=&ved=0CBwQ0Qw&adurl=http://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingPipe/AdServer.bs%3Fcn%3Dccs%26ebcmp%3D10322093%26ebkw%3D196576587%26advid%3D103219%26ebag%3D5523498%
[20:35] <Kilos> 26sead%3D66056190380%26kwtxt%3Dmy%2520account%2520vodacom%26ccsdurl%3D%24%24http://www.vodacom.co.za/vodacom/services/app-store/my-vodacom-app%3Fcid%3Dsrch_10_dsgn_4195%24%24
[20:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:35] <Kilos> something went crazy there
[20:36] <kulelu88> text split
[20:36] <kulelu88> it happens cause IRC has a limit
[20:39] <Kilos> try this and login or register if you havent yet
[20:40] <Kilos> http://www.vodacom.co.za/vodacom/services/app-store/my-vodacom-app?cid=srch_10_dsgn_4195
[20:40] <Kilos> i remeber she had to register with them first
[20:40] <Kilos> big schlep
[20:49] <magespawn>     i am off to bed, good night all
[20:49] <Kilos> nightr magespawn  
[20:50] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:54] <inetpro> ai!
[20:56] <Kilos> wat?
[21:11] <kulelu88> aah screw vodacom also. I'll get an axxess package soon
[21:11] <Kilos> painful hey
[21:12] <Kilos> dont you have 8ta in the area
[21:12] <kulelu88> lack of fibre, lack of electricity, water going out for 5 days
[21:12] <kulelu88> high crime
[21:12] <kulelu88> high murder
[21:12] <kulelu88> high poverty
[21:12] <kulelu88> racial tensions
[21:12] <Kilos> axcess seems a bit cheaper for some bundles but telkom are a better provider
[21:12] <kulelu88> black vs white
[21:12] <Kilos> lol
[21:13] <kulelu88> poor vs rich
[21:13] <kulelu88> whoever says this country is great probably has easy access to potent zol
[21:15] <Kilos> i need to take my modem to lappy to use buntu to try fix win7
[21:15] <Kilos> so ill say night all and sleep tight
[21:16] <kulelu88> totsiens oom