[00:58] <eikon81g> just dropped in to say "Hey" - bluesabre, Unit193 ..
[00:58] <eikon81g> hope yall are doing well
[01:01] <bluesabre> hey eikon81g
[01:02] <eikon81g> how are ya?
[01:02] <bluesabre> good good
[01:02] <bluesabre> yourself?
[01:02] <eikon81g> I haven't broken anything lately so I figured I should drop in to bug yall
[01:02] <eikon81g> I am good, just cadillacin' it.. :)
[01:02] <bluesabre> :)
[01:03] <bluesabre> well, for non-broken chat, you can join #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:09] <eikon81g> noted, lol thanks :)
[02:47] <gotfrog> hi I'm trying Xubuntu, and I want to tweak the Fonts, how would I go about unziping something into /user/share/fonts, when I try to extract the file using file manager it tells me I dont have the right permissions to extract the file there
[04:23] <xubuntu02w> i need install mysql workbench in my mini-pc 32 bits
[04:23] <xubuntu02w> this error
[04:24] <xubuntu02w> i need install
[04:36] <xubuntu02w> this its: mysql-workbench-community-6.2.5-1ubu1404-amd64.deb
[04:36] <xubuntu02w> the answer to this is:
[04:36] <xubuntu02w> $ sudo dpkg -i mysql-workbench-community-6.2-1ubu1404-amd64.deb dpkg: error al procesar el archivo mysql-workbench-community-6.2-1ubu1404-amd64.deb (--install):  la arquitectura del paquete (amd64) no corresponde con la del sistema (i386) Se encontraron errores al procesar:  mysql-workbench-community-6.2-1ubu1404-amd64.deb
[04:36] <xubuntu02w> look
[04:57] <Unit193> Sounds like you're trying to install a 64bit application on a 32bit system.  There's no easy way to do that.
[07:54] <giubas02> buongiorno a tutti.
[12:44] <Grama> hi, got a problem, laptop connects on wifi hotspot, recieve an IP address via DHCP, but cannot ping the router so i dont have the internet connection... any help would be welcome.
[13:02] <Grama> nobody can help ?
[14:24] <xubuntu372> Buongiorno a tutti
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !it | xubuntu372
[15:33] <xubuntu14w> hi
[15:33] <xubuntu14w> does xubuntu contain gparted?
[15:36] <holstein> !info gparted
[15:36] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:36] <holstein> ^ if not.. AFAIK, its on the live iso, and you can install it into your installation..
[15:36] <holstein> xubuntu14w: ^
[16:16] <stefanFF> hi guys
[16:16] <stefanFF> Does dual-monitor functionality stays as it is? Or is it going to get better?
[16:17] <holstein> stefanFF: well, "better" is always a matter of opinion and use case..
[16:17] <stefanFF> I thought 4.12 would bring better days for people with laptops and different offices
[16:17] <holstein> if its something with the conguration, i like arandr for a GUI to configure
[16:17] <holstein> i likke arandr, since, you can use that on any DE as well..
[16:18] <stefanFF> I understand
[16:18] <stefanFF> but I keep wondering why it isn't built into xfce
[16:19] <holstein> why what isnt built into xfce?
[16:19] <holstein> dual head? i do dual head on xfce..
[16:19] <stefanFF> Well, some easy menu to configure your displays
[16:20] <stefanFF> I just get 1 screen twice (mirrored)
[16:20] <holstein> there is one in the menu.. a tool..
[16:21] <holstein> stefanFF: should be able to "uncheck" mirror displays.. if not, try arandr.. i find it has more options..
[16:21] <stefanFF> But I read somewhere briefly that xfce 4.12 would get better multi monitor support, which I read as: a better tool to configure your multi monitor setup
[16:22] <holstein> sure, its just that "better" really is quite relative..
[16:22] <stefanFF> ow WOW
[16:22] <stefanFF> I had to enable mirror
[16:22] <holstein> you may actualy find that its worse, for example, if it doenst do specifically what you need
[16:22] <stefanFF> and then disable mirror
[16:22] <stefanFF> :')
[16:25] <stefanFF> But thanks for the info  holstein
[16:25] <stefanFF> c ya!
[16:25] <holstein> stefanFF: sure.. are you on the dev ppa?
[16:25] <stefanFF> ow
[16:25] <stefanFF> no, Im on 15.04 beta
[16:25] <holstein> cool
[16:25] <holstein> !15.04
[16:26] <stefanFF> :o
[16:26] <holstein> also, in the #xubuntu-devel channel they may be interested in knowing.. you can also file bugs, if you feel you have one..
[16:26] <holstein> cheers o/
[16:26] <stefanFF> \o
[18:05] <xubuntu_> Why wont my USB Xubuntu boot after I took the dock off this laptop?
[18:10] <TimeVirus> again ... Why wont my USB flash installation of Xubuntu boot after I took the dock off this latitude D420?
[18:11] <TimeVirus> Linux Mint Mate Rebecca has no trouble seeing USB since dock is gone
[18:11] <TimeVirus> sup
[18:12] <TimeVirus> about 5 mins and I just reinstall, hoping Xubuntu will see the hardware in a new light there after
[18:17] <TimeVirus> the better support in the Mint channels is something to behold
[19:30] <xubuntu45w> Hi !
[19:30] <xubuntu45w> I have a basic questions...
[19:31] <xubuntu45w> I want to download xubuntu on a usb stick...  and I have a laptop 64-bit intel I3 processor...
[19:32] <xubuntu45w> do Inhave to download the x86 image or 64bit PC-amd64__
[19:32] <xubuntu45w> it is not very clear..
[19:32] <bazhang> the amd 64
[19:32] <xubuntu45w> even if I have an intel processor?
[19:32] <bazhang> yes
[19:32] <holstein> xubuntu45w: yup.. 64bit for 64bit CPU's.. which can to 32bit.. the 32's can only to 32
[19:32] <xubuntu45w> ok
[19:32] <holstein> can do*
[19:33] <xubuntu45w> I wasnt sure as it was written 64bit amd..
[19:33] <holstein> you can do either on that hardware.. but you'll want the 64bit
[19:33] <xubuntu45w> thans a lot !
[19:33] <xubuntu45w> any advice on an internet site which explains very easily how to use linux in general?
[19:34] <holstein> not one source for "linux"
[19:34] <xubuntu45w> but at the ame time a lot of details?
[19:34] <holstein> just use it, and ask specific questions as they come along, here
[19:34] <xubuntu45w> ok
[19:34] <bazhang>  General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[19:34] <xubuntu45w> thanks a lot !!
[19:34] <holstein> if you are used to windows, for example, think about how you learned "windows".. and how there are many sources for "good" information
[19:35] <holstein> and, how long you spent learning windows.. not just reading a manual one evening and learning *all* about windows
[19:36] <xubuntu45w> I know.. it will take a bit of time to learn how to use xubuntu..
[19:36] <xubuntu45w> but I'm ready...  :)
[19:46] <msev_> how can I see a numerical representation of whole memory consumption, since in the task manager I just see a procentual and I'm not sure it see my whole RAM :)
[19:48] <holstein> msev_: top ?
[19:49] <holstein> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/top.1.html maybe..
[19:49] <msev_> 923/2000 isn't that a little high for xfce
[19:49] <msev_> used htop, forgot I had it installed :)
[19:49] <holstein> i would say, *if* you are using 923mb's of 2 gb's, sure.. but, is that the case?
[19:49] <holstein> is it *only* xfce?
[19:50] <holstein> anyways, xfce hasnt really been the "light" desktop, aimed at lower spec hardware in a while..
[19:50] <msev_> yeah thats the case
[19:50] <msev_> well chrome is consuming about 200 from that :)
[19:51] <holstein> cool.. maybe you'll find other things that are using the memory as well..
[19:51] <msev_> or rather 300mb :)
[19:51] <msev_> is it then normal
[19:51] <msev_> what about cpu usage goes from 1-3% to 70% when I hover over the panel with the mouse
[19:52] <msev_> lol now its not doing that dunno what was it
[19:52] <holstein> its always tricky to say, blanketly, across the board, what everyone will use, as far as resources..
[19:52] <holstein> https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-2/
[19:53] <holstein> there are many "studies" and comparisons
[19:53] <holstein> there are GPU drivers, compositing.. other hardware drivers.. etc..
[19:54] <msev_> if I were to install mate, which has now gotten a reputation of being lightweight, and logged into that environment would it still use some residual rams from other DEs I have currently installed (unity and xfce)
[19:55] <msev_> like would it start some un-needed processes
[19:55] <holstein> would "it" use residual rams?
[19:55] <msev_> if I were to log into a MATE session
[19:55] <holstein> would xfce/xbuntu use residual rams? if you are not using xfce/xubuntu? no..
[19:55] <holstein> *you* can use residual rams, if you run something in the background
[19:56] <holstein> the way i see it is, ram is just there.. i mean, you still have a gigabyte free.. not in use
[19:56] <holstein> there are lighter DE's.. but, freeing up more ram is just going to do that.. free up more ram.. doesnt make your system any faster/better
[19:56] <holstein> anyways.. good luck!
[19:56] <msev_> yeah :)
[19:57] <msev_> what about cpu usage any tips how to reduce it :)
[19:57] <kulelu88> how do I setup a wireless access point on my PC with Xubuntu? It doesn't seem to have the same settings as Ubuntu. 14.04
[20:00] <kulelu88> anybody?
[20:03] <Azelphur> should have the same settings, both are using network manager?
[20:03] <kulelu88> Azelphur: when I click on "Network", I can an interface that is completely different to the ubuntu descriptions
[20:04] <Azelphur> not sure then, sorry
[20:06] <knome> kulelu88, did you try to find the information on the documentation?
[20:10] <kulelu88> knome: I figured it out by looking at the howtogeek pictures. Xubuntu lacks a "Hotspot" button but the solution is pretty much the same. I could contribute some docs to it if I could find them for Xubuntu
[20:11] <knome> kulelu88, it's not like they are being tried to be kept as secret...
[20:12] <knome> kulelu88, though i seem to have misread your question anyway - and i'm not sure if that kind of documentation is in the scope of the xubuntu documentation
[20:13] <knome> kulelu88, and fwiw, they can be found at the menu under "help", and the documentation itself points you to the xubuntu website section which points you to places where you can get started
[20:14] <kulelu88> knome: it's probably both a lack of searching extensively and my lack of time. Plus search engines don't really like linking back to the actual documentation of the websites themselves.
[20:15] <kulelu88> I was attempting to turn my PC into a wireless access point
[20:59] <timevirus> hello - is there some reason Xubuntu wont boot since the removal of my dock? Mint is working fine since then - USB Flash installs by the way Xubuntu 14.04 if that matters
[21:01] <ObrienDave> timevirus, try installing xubuntu-desktop
[21:01] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[21:02] <timevirus> I'll look into that - My installation worked fine while the dock was on here though - deeply puzzling it is
[21:03] <timevirus> When Xubuntu tries to boot it seems as though I get a Grub terminal
[21:03] <timevirus> shell too not bash
[21:03] <ObrienDave> beyond my knowledge, sorry
[21:03] <timevirus> ok thanks for the response anyway
[21:04] <Unit193> timevirus: Removing xfce4-panel won't drop you to a grub prompt.
[21:06] <timevirus> the dock I refer to is a peice of hardware that attaches to this latitude d420 which has an optical drive and also adds one more USB port -
[21:06] <timevirus> had to drop the dock because the new battery wasnt made for it -
[21:07] <timevirus> had no idea they made batteries with so many options (not standard enough!)
[21:07] <timevirus> lol
[21:07] <ObrienDave> oh, a hardware dock
[21:07] <timevirus> yes
[21:07] <Unit193> Hah, docking station, I see.  So this is a dual boot with mint?  If so, which controls Grub?
[21:09] <timevirus> well right now I'm on Mint having failed to boot Xubuntu and I did update Mint grub to try and boot Xubuntu from there - to no avail
[21:09] <timevirus> grub is on my Xubunu USB as well - luckily this time that drive didnt try to boot first
[21:10] <timevirus> when I try plugging in the Xubuntu drive I have the same problem
[21:10] <timevirus> Xubuntu only
[21:10] <timevirus> that is
[21:11] <timevirus> if You're wondering why I've done my installations this way its because my internal is full
[21:11] <timevirus> lol
[21:11] <timevirus> about time to change that maybe
[21:12] <timevirus> My mint drive has Xubuntu, Mint and win7 entries - when trying to boot anything BUT Xubuntu it works fine
[21:13] <timevirus> Xubuntu boot is failing to see USB unless its got the docking station attached - then it boots fine
[21:14] <timevirus> well
[21:14] <timevirus> it sees usb but improperly
[21:14] <timevirus> got a lot of figuring to do
[21:15] <timevirus> time to go - thanks for the tries and attention
[21:56] <xubuntu137> Hi, Bit of a Nube Question. How do I get this machine to do a distro update?
[21:56] <xubuntu137> I'm running at 13.04 and want togo to 14.04
[21:57] <Unit193> xubuntu137: update-manager for GUI, do-release-upgrade for terminal.
[21:57] <Unit193> Oh, well...
[21:57] <Unit193> !eolupgrades
[21:57] <xubuntu137> Thanks. I'll take a look
[22:00] <xubuntu137> Looks like it may just be cleaner to install from a fresh ISO
[22:01] <ObrienDave> do you have a separate / and /home partitions?
[22:01] <xubuntu137> just tried the do-release-upgrade ad its chewing on it now. Thanks Unit193
[22:02] <Unit193> Sure thing, doc!
[22:07] <sta7ic> hello, deskbar mode is exactly what I want but it seems to only allow me to drag and drop vertically? who uses a vertical deskbar? j/k ...anyway to make it horizontal like normal people? love xubuntu btw, been using it off and on for years and its highly underrated
[22:15] <sta7ic> i figured it out, thanks anyways
[22:17] <ObrienDave> we love self-helpers :)
[22:28] <sta7ic> I personally like indicator-multiload over the xfce monitor stuff, anyway to get those indicators adding into the panel box? or  to like regenerate a list of panel items available?