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ahoneybunvalorie: thanks :)00:39
=== sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | Plasma 5.2.2 http://goo.gl/hguWnt | kf5.8 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.8.0_vivid.html
ahoneybunsgclark: ping04:15
sgclarkahoneybun: pong04:17
ahoneybunsgclark: can you search for steam from the terminal please04:17
ahoneybunI want to know if it shows up for you too04:18
sgclarkyes04:18
ahoneybunit was missing for some reason in 14.0404:18
sgclarkahh I am on vivid and I used on utopic I think04:18
sgclarknot so much trusty04:19
ahoneybuncan't see it in muon discover04:19
ahoneybun14.04 was missing it, are you on vivid sgclark?04:19
sgclarkanyway, half asleep :( good luck04:19
sgclarkyes vivid04:19
ahoneybunsgclark: ok thanks04:19
ahoneybunI'll let you sleep04:19
LeeJunFanvalorie: You still here for an OT question? Which FF add-on are you using for the side tabs?04:58
valorieLeeJunFan: hmmm05:08
valorieI"m not sure05:08
valorieTree Style tabs05:09
LeeJunFanI have one called side tabs, but it comes out looking like crap.05:09
LeeJunFanAh, thanks.05:09
valorieI guess I'll remove it and see if it makes a diff05:09
valorieoh, you were asking for a different reason, got it05:09
LeeJunFanYeah, I doubt that's the source of the ads. I'm kind of thinking it might be ISP injecting those.05:10
valorieoh, and I did have a media manager which I don't recall installing05:10
valorienow gone05:10
valorieif comcast was injecting, wouldn't I see them in chromium as well?05:11
valorienow there are no ads, since the media player is gone05:11
valorieicky05:11
ovidiu-florinlordievader: another web crawler reported mode than 100 000 links, but I don't know if that's just from our site, or also externals05:25
ovidiu-florinlordievader: please take ownership of this card: https://trello.com/c/36EqHCdB/20-make-sure-all-urls-from-the-old-site-are-available-valid-on-the-new-site05:26
kubotu[Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: make sure all urls from the old site are available/valid on the new site ++ ]05:26
soeegood morning07:11
soeeBluedevil 2.1.1 released and we have 2.0 rc in vivid ?07:19
valorieas I recall, there is some hangup with Ubuntu devels about Bluez or some such07:22
Riddellsee trello for bluez status07:36
soee_got it07:47
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sitterand CI has been fucked yet again08:19
* valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} sitter and hands him tea08:25
lordievaderGood morning.09:09
lordievaderovidiu-florin: I don't think I have any rights on the trello board. Let alone change ownership of items.09:13
sitterlordievader: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello09:17
lordievadersitter: My username is 'oliviervandertoorn': https://trello.com/oliviervandertoorn09:18
sitteradded09:19
lordievaderWhoop whoop09:20
sitterRiddell: did we establish a naming policy for kparts that takes the qt version into account?09:49
sitteror kf5 version I guess09:49
Riddellsitter: only konsole4-kpart10:21
Riddellwhat's it for?10:22
sitterkompare and cantor10:22
sitterI was thinking kpart5-$name10:22
sitteror kde-part5-$name (which would align better with the kde-config and plasma-widget prefixes)10:23
sitterin fact I don't even care sufficiently, just was wondering if you had discussed this when doing konsole4-kpart10:24
Riddellnope10:25
sitterRiddell: good news: at least the KCI iso starts in kvm again10:28
Riddellsitter: ooh? did you change anything?10:30
sitternope10:31
lordievaderovidiu-florin: ping10:34
BluesKajHowdy folks11:00
sgclarkmorning11:24
lordievaderHey sgclark, how are you?11:24
Riddellhola sgclark 11:25
sgclarkdoin ok11:29
sgclarkRiddell: can I add proposed as a dependency to staging? or just wait?11:32
Riddellsgclark: sure go ahead11:35
Riddellsgclark: you wanting to do plasma?11:35
sgclarkRiddell: right, staring at tons of reds due to them wanting 5.8 kf511:35
Riddellah yeah, sure add it in11:37
sgclarkhow does this retry script work?11:38
Riddell./kubuntu-retry-builds --kf5 --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=next-staging --force11:45
Riddellreplacing the three arguments with the right ones11:45
sitterI hope you merged11:46
sgclarkokies, think I see where I went wrong11:46
sgclarksitter: could you clarify? I started to merge when I started to see fails. But then realized only one was vivid and in MERGE-Fix. Am I suppose to mannually merge them all now? gosh that is not time saving at all..11:49
sitterwell, you aren't supposed to merge manually :P11:50
sgclarksitter: well then it seems I need a lesson in how to merge all this non manually... 11:51
sitterI think I posted a script last time11:53
sittersudo apt install ruby && sudo gem install logger-colors git11:54
sitterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10634158/11:54
sitteryou can comment out line 91 to make it not push the stuff11:54
sgclarksitter: ty11:57
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soeei see some kf 5.8 upgrades, now all packages are in vivid ?13:20
Riddellnope still some blocking13:21
* BluesKaj wonders when plasma5/systemctl will link root permissions with files so we can edit and save them...I need to do this for readability on this TV/monitor13:21
BluesKajreadability of toolbar fonts etc 13:22
soeeBluesKaj: that i dont know :)13:23
soeesgclark: any soon 5.2.2 might be ready ?13:23
Riddellkubuntu-dev-tools/bin/kubuntu-update-symbols is genius13:24
* soee dont know that those are13:24
Riddelldebfx: you're a genius13:25
BluesKajfor example when editing the sources.list or conf files in with kdesudo in kate13:25
soeehmm kate if we talk about it, i had some problem with kate and qdbus last days13:25
BluesKajkdesudo systemsettings in krunner won't launch...used to be able set the fonts gobally there ...this is really annoying13:28
sgclarksoee: I don't know, alot going on, doing the best I can13:29
ScottKsgclark: Did you ever get a chance to look into seeds?13:29
* Riddell hugs sgclark 13:30
* ScottK asks since it seems like sgclark isn't quite overwhelmed enough yet.13:30
sgclarkScottK: looks simple enough, will have it done as soon as I can, definately before I need you to update it for sure13:30
ScottKsgclark: Agreed.  It's not that hard to add packages.  Just let me know.13:31
sgclarkScottK: will do, thanks :)13:31
soeehmm i wonder why i dont have kdetelepathy status notifier in systray13:37
Riddellit'll only get activated on new installs13:37
Riddelldo you have kde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet installed? do you have it in the systray settings?13:38
soeei dont see any option related to in in systray 13:38
soeekde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet is installed13:38
soeeah wait it is13:39
soeemy fault, but it is disabled13:39
soeeok enabled, and worsk now, sorry for false alarm13:39
Riddelldoes anyone have user manager showing in system settings?14:04
soeeRiddell: not me14:05
sgclarknegative14:06
Riddellhmm, a mystery14:06
BluesKajnot on 15.0414:07
BluesKajdriver manager doesn't do anything either14:13
Riddellwhat should it do?14:13
Riddellor it just doesn't appear?14:13
soeeBluesKaj: it installs for me some intel driver that nobody knows what it does :D14:14
BluesKajit appears , but doesn't gather any HW info , the list is x'd out14:15
BluesKajusually the HW info is optional graphics or wifi drivers 14:16
soeeBluesKaj: here http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/20/workspace15.png14:17
Riddellyay all of kf5 in except khtml still building14:18
BluesKajsoee, yup , I don't get that list here ...is that on 14.10?14:18
soeevivid14:18
BluesKajreally, then I'm missing some libs obviously14:18
* BluesKaj checks the sources.list14:20
BluesKajdriver manager doesn't show any options here ...must be missing a repos 14:24
soeeRiddell: at 5.2.2 status http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.2_vivid.html we have infor that user_manager is not in ppa so maybe same for 5.2.1 - it is not available in system ? just a bling shot14:24
Riddellsoee: yeah it's not got a stable release but kubuntu includes the unstable 5.1.95 beta release14:25
Riddellwhich means we need to do extra checking to make sure it works14:26
BluesKajodd , component universe is enabled, but driver manager is still not working in 15.04 here14:27
BluesKajoh well, the 340 driver is installed and working ok , so i guess it's moot at this point14:28
soeeBluesKaj: no idea, maybe start it from konsole and see if any errors show up when gathering hardware info14:29
BluesKajno response in the terminal, soee14:31
lordievaderovidiu-florin: The script seems to work: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/spider.tar.gz15:48
ovidiu-florinlordievader: pong17:14
ovidiu-florinlordievader: still here?17:16
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: do you know size the header image needs to be ?17:22
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: I'll start working on the Website guidelines and draft there some rules about the featured image17:23
ovidiu-florinwhich will will be the header on each page17:23
ahoneybunoh ok17:25
phoenix_firebrdIs this a downsteam patch ?   https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123080/17:46
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lordievaderovidiu-florin: Jup.18:13
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sgclarkugh sddm still broken for me21:31
soeesgclark: why ? whats wrong21:31
sgclarkboots straight to terminal21:31
sgclarkno biggie can systemctl start sddm21:31
sgclarkbut blah21:32
sgclarkif I was a normal user I would go running haha21:32
soeeah jest there was tha command to mae it work21:32
soeelordievader: you know something about it ^21:33
sgclarkanyway back to plasma sorry for the delay21:33
soeewe have time till next wthurday i think :D21:33
soeebut im ready to test 5.2.2 as soon as it is ready21:33
soeei mist say i love how smooth plasam 5 works on lap21:34
soee*on my lap21:34
sgclarkyep, I am very happy with plasma5! sddm and systemd not so much lol21:34
sgclarkwell I don't know which to blame really21:35
yofelsgclark: systemctl status sddm21:35
yofeland check whether it says enabled or disabled21:35
soeeand this is the biggest issue now, systemd and sddm have to be fixed before release21:36
sgclarkyofel: it is enabled :(21:37
sgclarkbeen there21:37
yofelsystemd works pretty much fine from my experience, sddm not so much21:37
sgclarkyeah I think it is addm toh21:37
sgclarksddm*21:37
sgclarktbh sigh21:37
sgclarkerr21:38
soeeand if we add to this 2 also nvidia-prime ... :)21:38
sgclarkor not, my mouse no worky either21:38
yofelthat's also sddm :P21:38
sgclark*grumbles at nvidia*21:38
KDDAI have noticed a slower boot time, is that due to systemd?21:39
soeeand lightdm is to mad to use it now21:39
sgclarkyeah my boot time is definately much slower21:39
soeeit wants to install whole unity desktop by default21:39
KDDA*grumbles at unity*21:39
sgclarksoee: lol yeah I ended up with quite a mess a few installs ago with lightdm21:39
sgclarkin in an effort to get nvidia drivers lol21:40
Riddellsgclark: systemctl enable sddm21:43
Riddellyay khtml is in, kf5.8 is happy21:43
sgclarkRiddell: it is already enabled :(21:43
Riddellhmm21:43
sgclarkstill makes me systemctl start sddm to boot21:43
yofelsgclark: 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' says?21:44
soeethere was some other command lordievader showed me to fix sddm21:44
* yofel isn't sure when that's used though..21:44
sgclarkI think it may be that the lappy is on a USB drive atm since I had to do all that windows work for kdeci21:44
soeeat my work pc21:44
sgclarkno such file or directory21:45
sgclarkperhaps that is my issue?21:45
sgclarkwhere would that file come from?21:46
sgclarkoh wait omg, sddm did indeed get disabled again wth21:46
yofelthe file might actually be obsolete21:47
sgclarkwell it is enabled once again. hopefully it does not get disabled again21:49
ovidiu-florinI have a confession to make 22:17
ovidiu-florinI love you guys 22:17
ovidiu-florinAnd the community 22:18
valorie ovidiu-florin <322:18
valorieeven though i"m not a guy22:18
ovidiu-florinGuys as in everybody 22:18
ovidiu-florinBoys and girls 22:18
lordievader;)22:19
ovidiu-florinI don't think I would still have been in open source if it weren't for you22:20
valoriesure, "all men are created equal" was supposed to apply to us all, except -- women didn't have a vote22:20
valorie:-)22:20
valorieone thing I love about this community is that really all are welcomed22:20
valorienot everybody wants a grandma around!22:21
lordievaderThat is exactly what I like about this community, here it doesn't matter if you know a lot about Linux or development or just a little. :D22:22
ovidiu-florinWhy not? That's just crazy 22:22
ovidiu-florinvalorie: ^22:23
valoriebrogrammer culture is just for frat-boys22:24
valoriethey don't like women or any minorities really22:24
valorieexcept to use22:24
valoriesad to say22:24
valorieand there are orgs full of attitudes like that22:25
valorieso happy that all of  ubuntu and certainly KDE does not allow that kind of person to hang out22:25
valorieor at least say/act in hateful ways22:25
ovidiu-florin😊22:27
mparilloChildren  love their grandmothers. They share a common adversary. And, yes, this community is special.22:29
lordievaderovidiu-florin: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/checker.tar.gz <-- includes the script and the output.22:29
valoriemparillo: lol22:31
ovidiu-florinlordievader: awesome, Thank you very much 22:35
KDDAI must say I much prefer Kubuntu community over Ubuntu any day!22:35
ovidiu-florinI'll start debugging them in the morning 22:35
valorieKDDA: we do have our own special sauce, I think22:36
lordievaderovidiu-florin: No problem, do something fun with it ;)22:36
lordievadervalorie: A blue sauce?22:37
valorielol22:37
valoriewith whisky, I think22:37
Riddell"#kubuntu  has been my #linux  distro since.....2005" says claydoh_ 22:39
Riddellanyone able to beat that?22:39
* yofel drops a needle..22:40
KDDAafraid not22:40
* yofel is here since 0922:40
KDDAI only came over after the introduction of "Unity"22:41
valorieI think maybe late 2005 or maybe 200622:42
valorienot quite sure22:42
valoriestarted on Mandrake in 2001, briefly tried gentoo but kept breaking my new computer22:42
Riddellgentoo?  you're so eliteist :)22:42
valorieson said, brown or blue, and I chose blue and I've been on kubuntu every since22:43
valorieha!22:43
valorieI'm very good at finding ways to break my computer22:43
valorie:/22:43
Riddellgood choice :)22:44
valorieRiddell: never looked back for sure22:44
valorietoo bad I didn't know about the community back then, or IRC22:45
valoriewell, I knew about IRC, but not freenode22:45
valorieat least I got maco into kubuntu, and then she dragged me into freenode22:46
claydohRiddell: there has to be *someone* who's used it longer ;) I can't remember exactly when in '05, but I did join kubuntuforum in september that year22:46
claydohgreat article, by the way!22:49
mparilloKDDA: Me too. It was 11.04 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_11.04_.28Natty_Narwhal.2922:50
valorieRiddell probably holds the record, hands down22:52
KDDAI think it was Kubuntu I tried and it blew up my monitor :/22:55
ahoneybunRiddell: some reason khelpcenter4 was removed22:55
valorieI've never had any major problems22:55
KDDAwas very early on22:55
ahoneybunvalorie: I applied for Ubuntu membership board22:55
valoriealthough when i tried to shut down last night I could not22:56
KDDAvalorie: I have been having issues shutting down22:56
valoriewas going to try that again today but my buddy from Paris came online22:56
valorieit wouldn't restart either22:56
yofelahoneybun: khelpcenter4 is no more22:57
ahoneybunyofel: oh ok22:57
KDDAhave to do it via Ctrl+Alt+F222:57
ahoneybunKhelpcenter5?22:57
ahoneybunyofel: ^22:57
KDDAlogin in and sudo shutdown now22:57
yofelahoneybun: 5 is 'khelpcenter'22:57
ahoneybunOk22:58
valorieKDDA: yes, I wanted to wait for today's updates and see if it was fixed before filing a bug22:58
KDDAany luck?22:58
yofelhm, does anyone actually have tty*1* ?22:58
valorieright now in the middle of some other stuff22:58
yofelor did we forget to make sddm not conflict that22:58
valorieI have tty 122:59
yofelhm, guess I'll check for updates22:59
KDDAI seem to have it too23:00
yofelsoee: ok, I take my words back. I do have one systemd issue: network bridge auto setup doesn't work23:00
KDDAI thought the GUI was moving to F123:00
KDDAit was for a bit23:00
soeeyofel: i dont know what that is :D23:09
KDDAIm getting an error message as well "ACPI PCC Probe failed"23:10
valorieok gonna try restarting to see if the sddm bug still lives23:11
* KDDA crosses fingers 23:12
valoriehmmm, still had to use cli to quit23:22
valoriestill had to use systemctl start sddm to get in23:23
valorieand wifi didn't start automatically23:23
valoriein fact, it had lost config to do that23:23
valorieso we are not home free23:24
valorietorrents aren't running either for no reason I can see23:24
ahoneybunvalorie: ktorrent will not start for you too?23:35
valorieit starts, but was running no torrents23:36
valorieI made it check all info and now that seems to have knocked some sense into it23:36
valorieperhaps because it started before wifi23:36
valorienow uploading again23:38
valoriealso buglet in the screen locker - cursor no longer in the textbox automatically, which is slightly annoying Every Time23:50
valorieand the slideshow has stopped erasing one image before putting in the next23:51
valoriewhich can be really strange23:51
valorieI need to know packagenames so I can report these to bko23:51

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