[00:39] valorie: thanks :) === sgclark changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | Plasma 5.2.2 http://goo.gl/hguWnt | kf5.8 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.8.0_vivid.html [04:15] sgclark: ping [04:17] ahoneybun: pong [04:17] sgclark: can you search for steam from the terminal please [04:18] I want to know if it shows up for you too [04:18] yes [04:18] it was missing for some reason in 14.04 [04:18] ahh I am on vivid and I used on utopic I think [04:19] not so much trusty [04:19] can't see it in muon discover [04:19] 14.04 was missing it, are you on vivid sgclark? [04:19] anyway, half asleep :( good luck [04:19] yes vivid [04:19] sgclark: ok thanks [04:19] I'll let you sleep [04:58] valorie: You still here for an OT question? Which FF add-on are you using for the side tabs? [05:08] LeeJunFan: hmmm [05:08] I"m not sure [05:09] Tree Style tabs [05:09] I have one called side tabs, but it comes out looking like crap. [05:09] Ah, thanks. [05:09] I guess I'll remove it and see if it makes a diff [05:09] oh, you were asking for a different reason, got it [05:10] Yeah, I doubt that's the source of the ads. I'm kind of thinking it might be ISP injecting those. [05:10] oh, and I did have a media manager which I don't recall installing [05:10] now gone [05:11] if comcast was injecting, wouldn't I see them in chromium as well? [05:11] now there are no ads, since the media player is gone [05:11] icky [05:25] lordievader: another web crawler reported mode than 100 000 links, but I don't know if that's just from our site, or also externals [05:26] lordievader: please take ownership of this card: https://trello.com/c/36EqHCdB/20-make-sure-all-urls-from-the-old-site-are-available-valid-on-the-new-site [05:26] [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: make sure all urls from the old site are available/valid on the new site ++ ] [07:11] good morning [07:19] Bluedevil 2.1.1 released and we have 2.0 rc in vivid ? [07:22] as I recall, there is some hangup with Ubuntu devels about Bluez or some such [07:36] see trello for bluez status [07:47] got it === soee_ is now known as soee === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [08:19] and CI has been fucked yet again [08:25] * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} sitter and hands him tea [09:09] Good morning. [09:13] ovidiu-florin: I don't think I have any rights on the trello board. Let alone change ownership of items. [09:17] lordievader: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello [09:18] sitter: My username is 'oliviervandertoorn': https://trello.com/oliviervandertoorn [09:19] added [09:20] Whoop whoop [09:49] Riddell: did we establish a naming policy for kparts that takes the qt version into account? [09:49] or kf5 version I guess [10:21] sitter: only konsole4-kpart [10:22] what's it for? [10:22] kompare and cantor [10:22] I was thinking kpart5-$name [10:23] or kde-part5-$name (which would align better with the kde-config and plasma-widget prefixes) [10:24] in fact I don't even care sufficiently, just was wondering if you had discussed this when doing konsole4-kpart [10:25] nope [10:28] Riddell: good news: at least the KCI iso starts in kvm again [10:30] sitter: ooh? did you change anything? [10:31] nope [10:34] ovidiu-florin: ping [11:00] Howdy folks [11:24] morning [11:24] Hey sgclark, how are you? [11:25] hola sgclark [11:29] doin ok [11:32] Riddell: can I add proposed as a dependency to staging? or just wait? [11:35] sgclark: sure go ahead [11:35] sgclark: you wanting to do plasma? [11:35] Riddell: right, staring at tons of reds due to them wanting 5.8 kf5 [11:37] ah yeah, sure add it in [11:38] how does this retry script work? [11:45] ./kubuntu-retry-builds --kf5 --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=next-staging --force [11:45] replacing the three arguments with the right ones [11:46] I hope you merged [11:46] okies, think I see where I went wrong [11:49] sitter: could you clarify? I started to merge when I started to see fails. But then realized only one was vivid and in MERGE-Fix. Am I suppose to mannually merge them all now? gosh that is not time saving at all.. [11:50] well, you aren't supposed to merge manually :P [11:51] sitter: well then it seems I need a lesson in how to merge all this non manually... [11:53] I think I posted a script last time [11:54] sudo apt install ruby && sudo gem install logger-colors git [11:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10634158/ [11:54] you can comment out line 91 to make it not push the stuff [11:57] sitter: ty === soee_ is now known as soee [13:20] i see some kf 5.8 upgrades, now all packages are in vivid ? [13:21] nope still some blocking [13:21] * BluesKaj wonders when plasma5/systemctl will link root permissions with files so we can edit and save them...I need to do this for readability on this TV/monitor [13:22] readability of toolbar fonts etc [13:23] BluesKaj: that i dont know :) [13:23] sgclark: any soon 5.2.2 might be ready ? [13:24] kubuntu-dev-tools/bin/kubuntu-update-symbols is genius [13:24] * soee dont know that those are [13:25] debfx: you're a genius [13:25] for example when editing the sources.list or conf files in with kdesudo in kate [13:25] hmm kate if we talk about it, i had some problem with kate and qdbus last days [13:28] kdesudo systemsettings in krunner won't launch...used to be able set the fonts gobally there ...this is really annoying [13:29] soee: I don't know, alot going on, doing the best I can [13:29] sgclark: Did you ever get a chance to look into seeds? [13:30] * Riddell hugs sgclark [13:30] * ScottK asks since it seems like sgclark isn't quite overwhelmed enough yet. [13:30] ScottK: looks simple enough, will have it done as soon as I can, definately before I need you to update it for sure [13:31] sgclark: Agreed. It's not that hard to add packages. Just let me know. [13:31] ScottK: will do, thanks :) [13:37] hmm i wonder why i dont have kdetelepathy status notifier in systray [13:37] it'll only get activated on new installs [13:38] do you have kde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet installed? do you have it in the systray settings? [13:38] i dont see any option related to in in systray [13:38] kde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet is installed [13:39] ah wait it is [13:39] my fault, but it is disabled [13:39] ok enabled, and worsk now, sorry for false alarm [14:04] does anyone have user manager showing in system settings? [14:05] Riddell: not me [14:06] negative [14:06] hmm, a mystery [14:07] not on 15.04 [14:13] driver manager doesn't do anything either [14:13] what should it do? [14:13] or it just doesn't appear? [14:14] BluesKaj: it installs for me some intel driver that nobody knows what it does :D [14:15] it appears , but doesn't gather any HW info , the list is x'd out [14:16] usually the HW info is optional graphics or wifi drivers [14:17] BluesKaj: here http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/20/workspace15.png [14:18] yay all of kf5 in except khtml still building [14:18] soee, yup , I don't get that list here ...is that on 14.10? [14:18] vivid [14:18] really, then I'm missing some libs obviously [14:20] * BluesKaj checks the sources.list [14:24] driver manager doesn't show any options here ...must be missing a repos [14:24] Riddell: at 5.2.2 status http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.2_vivid.html we have infor that user_manager is not in ppa so maybe same for 5.2.1 - it is not available in system ? just a bling shot [14:25] soee: yeah it's not got a stable release but kubuntu includes the unstable 5.1.95 beta release [14:26] which means we need to do extra checking to make sure it works [14:27] odd , component universe is enabled, but driver manager is still not working in 15.04 here [14:28] oh well, the 340 driver is installed and working ok , so i guess it's moot at this point [14:29] BluesKaj: no idea, maybe start it from konsole and see if any errors show up when gathering hardware info [14:31] no response in the terminal, soee [15:48] ovidiu-florin: The script seems to work: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/spider.tar.gz [17:14] lordievader: pong [17:16] lordievader: still here? [17:22] ovidiu-florin: do you know size the header image needs to be ? [17:23] ahoneybun: I'll start working on the Website guidelines and draft there some rules about the featured image [17:23] which will will be the header on each page [17:25] oh ok [17:46] Is this a downsteam patch ? https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123080/ === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [18:13] ovidiu-florin: Jup. === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [21:31] ugh sddm still broken for me [21:31] sgclark: why ? whats wrong [21:31] boots straight to terminal [21:31] no biggie can systemctl start sddm [21:32] but blah [21:32] if I was a normal user I would go running haha [21:32] ah jest there was tha command to mae it work [21:33] lordievader: you know something about it ^ [21:33] anyway back to plasma sorry for the delay [21:33] we have time till next wthurday i think :D [21:33] but im ready to test 5.2.2 as soon as it is ready [21:34] i mist say i love how smooth plasam 5 works on lap [21:34] *on my lap [21:34] yep, I am very happy with plasma5! sddm and systemd not so much lol [21:35] well I don't know which to blame really [21:35] sgclark: systemctl status sddm [21:35] and check whether it says enabled or disabled [21:36] and this is the biggest issue now, systemd and sddm have to be fixed before release [21:37] yofel: it is enabled :( [21:37] been there [21:37] systemd works pretty much fine from my experience, sddm not so much [21:37] yeah I think it is addm toh [21:37] sddm* [21:37] tbh sigh [21:38] err [21:38] and if we add to this 2 also nvidia-prime ... :) [21:38] or not, my mouse no worky either [21:38] that's also sddm :P [21:38] *grumbles at nvidia* [21:39] I have noticed a slower boot time, is that due to systemd? [21:39] and lightdm is to mad to use it now [21:39] yeah my boot time is definately much slower [21:39] it wants to install whole unity desktop by default [21:39] *grumbles at unity* [21:39] soee: lol yeah I ended up with quite a mess a few installs ago with lightdm [21:40] in in an effort to get nvidia drivers lol [21:43] sgclark: systemctl enable sddm [21:43] yay khtml is in, kf5.8 is happy [21:43] Riddell: it is already enabled :( [21:43] hmm [21:43] still makes me systemctl start sddm to boot [21:44] sgclark: 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' says? [21:44] there was some other command lordievader showed me to fix sddm [21:44] * yofel isn't sure when that's used though.. [21:44] I think it may be that the lappy is on a USB drive atm since I had to do all that windows work for kdeci [21:44] at my work pc [21:45] no such file or directory [21:45] perhaps that is my issue? [21:46] where would that file come from? [21:46] oh wait omg, sddm did indeed get disabled again wth [21:47] the file might actually be obsolete [21:49] well it is enabled once again. hopefully it does not get disabled again [22:17] I have a confession to make [22:17] I love you guys [22:18] And the community [22:18] ovidiu-florin <3 [22:18] even though i"m not a guy [22:18] Guys as in everybody [22:18] Boys and girls [22:19] ;) [22:20] I don't think I would still have been in open source if it weren't for you [22:20] sure, "all men are created equal" was supposed to apply to us all, except -- women didn't have a vote [22:20] :-) [22:20] one thing I love about this community is that really all are welcomed [22:21] not everybody wants a grandma around! [22:22] That is exactly what I like about this community, here it doesn't matter if you know a lot about Linux or development or just a little. :D [22:22] Why not? That's just crazy [22:23] valorie: ^ [22:24] brogrammer culture is just for frat-boys [22:24] they don't like women or any minorities really [22:24] except to use [22:24] sad to say [22:25] and there are orgs full of attitudes like that [22:25] so happy that all of ubuntu and certainly KDE does not allow that kind of person to hang out [22:25] or at least say/act in hateful ways [22:27] 😊 [22:29] Children love their grandmothers. They share a common adversary. And, yes, this community is special. [22:29] ovidiu-florin: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/checker.tar.gz <-- includes the script and the output. [22:31] mparillo: lol [22:35] lordievader: awesome, Thank you very much [22:35] I must say I much prefer Kubuntu community over Ubuntu any day! [22:35] I'll start debugging them in the morning [22:36] KDDA: we do have our own special sauce, I think [22:36] ovidiu-florin: No problem, do something fun with it ;) [22:37] valorie: A blue sauce? [22:37] lol [22:37] with whisky, I think [22:39] "#kubuntu has been my #linux distro since.....2005" says claydoh_ [22:39] anyone able to beat that? [22:40] * yofel drops a needle.. [22:40] afraid not [22:40] * yofel is here since 09 [22:41] I only came over after the introduction of "Unity" [22:42] I think maybe late 2005 or maybe 2006 [22:42] not quite sure [22:42] started on Mandrake in 2001, briefly tried gentoo but kept breaking my new computer [22:42] gentoo? you're so eliteist :) [22:43] son said, brown or blue, and I chose blue and I've been on kubuntu every since [22:43] ha! [22:43] I'm very good at finding ways to break my computer [22:43] :/ [22:44] good choice :) [22:44] Riddell: never looked back for sure [22:45] too bad I didn't know about the community back then, or IRC [22:45] well, I knew about IRC, but not freenode [22:46] at least I got maco into kubuntu, and then she dragged me into freenode [22:46] Riddell: there has to be *someone* who's used it longer ;) I can't remember exactly when in '05, but I did join kubuntuforum in september that year [22:49] great article, by the way! [22:50] KDDA: Me too. It was 11.04 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_11.04_.28Natty_Narwhal.29 [22:52] Riddell probably holds the record, hands down [22:55] I think it was Kubuntu I tried and it blew up my monitor :/ [22:55] Riddell: some reason khelpcenter4 was removed [22:55] I've never had any major problems [22:55] was very early on [22:55] valorie: I applied for Ubuntu membership board [22:56] although when i tried to shut down last night I could not [22:56] valorie: I have been having issues shutting down [22:56] was going to try that again today but my buddy from Paris came online [22:56] it wouldn't restart either [22:57] ahoneybun: khelpcenter4 is no more [22:57] yofel: oh ok [22:57] have to do it via Ctrl+Alt+F2 [22:57] Khelpcenter5? [22:57] yofel: ^ [22:57] login in and sudo shutdown now [22:57] ahoneybun: 5 is 'khelpcenter' [22:58] Ok [22:58] KDDA: yes, I wanted to wait for today's updates and see if it was fixed before filing a bug [22:58] any luck? [22:58] hm, does anyone actually have tty*1* ? [22:58] right now in the middle of some other stuff [22:58] or did we forget to make sddm not conflict that [22:59] I have tty 1 [22:59] hm, guess I'll check for updates [23:00] I seem to have it too [23:00] soee: ok, I take my words back. I do have one systemd issue: network bridge auto setup doesn't work [23:00] I thought the GUI was moving to F1 [23:00] it was for a bit [23:09] yofel: i dont know what that is :D [23:10] Im getting an error message as well "ACPI PCC Probe failed" [23:11] ok gonna try restarting to see if the sddm bug still lives [23:12] * KDDA crosses fingers [23:22] hmmm, still had to use cli to quit [23:23] still had to use systemctl start sddm to get in [23:23] and wifi didn't start automatically [23:23] in fact, it had lost config to do that [23:24] so we are not home free [23:24] torrents aren't running either for no reason I can see [23:35] valorie: ktorrent will not start for you too? [23:36] it starts, but was running no torrents [23:36] I made it check all info and now that seems to have knocked some sense into it [23:36] perhaps because it started before wifi [23:38] now uploading again [23:50] also buglet in the screen locker - cursor no longer in the textbox automatically, which is slightly annoying Every Time [23:51] and the slideshow has stopped erasing one image before putting in the next [23:51] which can be really strange [23:51] I need to know packagenames so I can report these to bko