[00:39] <ahoneybun> valorie: thanks :)
[04:15] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ping
[04:17] <sgclark> ahoneybun: pong
[04:17] <ahoneybun> sgclark: can you search for steam from the terminal please
[04:18] <ahoneybun> I want to know if it shows up for you too
[04:18] <sgclark> yes
[04:18] <ahoneybun> it was missing for some reason in 14.04
[04:18] <sgclark> ahh I am on vivid and I used on utopic I think
[04:19] <sgclark> not so much trusty
[04:19] <ahoneybun> can't see it in muon discover
[04:19] <ahoneybun> 14.04 was missing it, are you on vivid sgclark?
[04:19] <sgclark> anyway, half asleep :( good luck
[04:19] <sgclark> yes vivid
[04:19] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ok thanks
[04:19] <ahoneybun> I'll let you sleep
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> valorie: You still here for an OT question? Which FF add-on are you using for the side tabs?
[05:08] <valorie> LeeJunFan: hmmm
[05:08] <valorie> I"m not sure
[05:09] <valorie> Tree Style tabs
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> I have one called side tabs, but it comes out looking like crap.
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> Ah, thanks.
[05:09] <valorie> I guess I'll remove it and see if it makes a diff
[05:09] <valorie> oh, you were asking for a different reason, got it
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> Yeah, I doubt that's the source of the ads. I'm kind of thinking it might be ISP injecting those.
[05:10] <valorie> oh, and I did have a media manager which I don't recall installing
[05:10] <valorie> now gone
[05:11] <valorie> if comcast was injecting, wouldn't I see them in chromium as well?
[05:11] <valorie> now there are no ads, since the media player is gone
[05:11] <valorie> icky
[05:25] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: another web crawler reported mode than 100 000 links, but I don't know if that's just from our site, or also externals
[05:26] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: please take ownership of this card: https://trello.com/c/36EqHCdB/20-make-sure-all-urls-from-the-old-site-are-available-valid-on-the-new-site
[05:26] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: make sure all urls from the old site are available/valid on the new site ++ ]
[07:11] <soee> good morning
[07:19] <soee> Bluedevil 2.1.1 released and we have 2.0 rc in vivid ?
[07:22] <valorie> as I recall, there is some hangup with Ubuntu devels about Bluez or some such
[07:36] <Riddell> see trello for bluez status
[07:47] <soee_> got it
[08:19] <sitter> and CI has been fucked yet again
[08:25]  * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} sitter and hands him tea
[09:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:13] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: I don't think I have any rights on the trello board. Let alone change ownership of items.
[09:17] <sitter> lordievader: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello
[09:18] <lordievader> sitter: My username is 'oliviervandertoorn': https://trello.com/oliviervandertoorn
[09:19] <sitter> added
[09:20] <lordievader> Whoop whoop
[09:49] <sitter> Riddell: did we establish a naming policy for kparts that takes the qt version into account?
[09:49] <sitter> or kf5 version I guess
[10:21] <Riddell> sitter: only konsole4-kpart
[10:22] <Riddell> what's it for?
[10:22] <sitter> kompare and cantor
[10:22] <sitter> I was thinking kpart5-$name
[10:23] <sitter> or kde-part5-$name (which would align better with the kde-config and plasma-widget prefixes)
[10:24] <sitter> in fact I don't even care sufficiently, just was wondering if you had discussed this when doing konsole4-kpart
[10:25] <Riddell> nope
[10:28] <sitter> Riddell: good news: at least the KCI iso starts in kvm again
[10:30] <Riddell> sitter: ooh? did you change anything?
[10:31] <sitter> nope
[10:34] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: ping
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:24] <sgclark> morning
[11:24] <lordievader> Hey sgclark, how are you?
[11:25] <Riddell> hola sgclark 
[11:29] <sgclark> doin ok
[11:32] <sgclark> Riddell: can I add proposed as a dependency to staging? or just wait?
[11:35] <Riddell> sgclark: sure go ahead
[11:35] <Riddell> sgclark: you wanting to do plasma?
[11:35] <sgclark> Riddell: right, staring at tons of reds due to them wanting 5.8 kf5
[11:37] <Riddell> ah yeah, sure add it in
[11:38] <sgclark> how does this retry script work?
[11:45] <Riddell> ./kubuntu-retry-builds --kf5 --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=next-staging --force
[11:45] <Riddell> replacing the three arguments with the right ones
[11:46] <sitter> I hope you merged
[11:46] <sgclark> okies, think I see where I went wrong
[11:49] <sgclark> sitter: could you clarify? I started to merge when I started to see fails. But then realized only one was vivid and in MERGE-Fix. Am I suppose to mannually merge them all now? gosh that is not time saving at all..
[11:50] <sitter> well, you aren't supposed to merge manually :P
[11:51] <sgclark> sitter: well then it seems I need a lesson in how to merge all this non manually... 
[11:53] <sitter> I think I posted a script last time
[11:54] <sitter> sudo apt install ruby && sudo gem install logger-colors git
[11:54] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10634158/
[11:54] <sitter> you can comment out line 91 to make it not push the stuff
[11:57] <sgclark> sitter: ty
[13:20] <soee> i see some kf 5.8 upgrades, now all packages are in vivid ?
[13:21] <Riddell> nope still some blocking
[13:21]  * BluesKaj wonders when plasma5/systemctl will link root permissions with files so we can edit and save them...I need to do this for readability on this TV/monitor
[13:22] <BluesKaj> readability of toolbar fonts etc 
[13:23] <soee> BluesKaj: that i dont know :)
[13:23] <soee> sgclark: any soon 5.2.2 might be ready ?
[13:24] <Riddell> kubuntu-dev-tools/bin/kubuntu-update-symbols is genius
[13:24]  * soee dont know that those are
[13:25] <Riddell> debfx: you're a genius
[13:25] <BluesKaj> for example when editing the sources.list or conf files in with kdesudo in kate
[13:25] <soee> hmm kate if we talk about it, i had some problem with kate and qdbus last days
[13:28] <BluesKaj> kdesudo systemsettings in krunner won't launch...used to be able set the fonts gobally there ...this is really annoying
[13:29] <sgclark> soee: I don't know, alot going on, doing the best I can
[13:29] <ScottK> sgclark: Did you ever get a chance to look into seeds?
[13:30]  * Riddell hugs sgclark 
[13:30]  * ScottK asks since it seems like sgclark isn't quite overwhelmed enough yet.
[13:30] <sgclark> ScottK: looks simple enough, will have it done as soon as I can, definately before I need you to update it for sure
[13:31] <ScottK> sgclark: Agreed.  It's not that hard to add packages.  Just let me know.
[13:31] <sgclark> ScottK: will do, thanks :)
[13:37] <soee> hmm i wonder why i dont have kdetelepathy status notifier in systray
[13:37] <Riddell> it'll only get activated on new installs
[13:38] <Riddell> do you have kde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet installed? do you have it in the systray settings?
[13:38] <soee> i dont see any option related to in in systray 
[13:38] <soee> kde-telepathy-legacy-presence-applet is installed
[13:39] <soee> ah wait it is
[13:39] <soee> my fault, but it is disabled
[13:39] <soee> ok enabled, and worsk now, sorry for false alarm
[14:04] <Riddell> does anyone have user manager showing in system settings?
[14:05] <soee> Riddell: not me
[14:06] <sgclark> negative
[14:06] <Riddell> hmm, a mystery
[14:07] <BluesKaj> not on 15.04
[14:13] <BluesKaj> driver manager doesn't do anything either
[14:13] <Riddell> what should it do?
[14:13] <Riddell> or it just doesn't appear?
[14:14] <soee> BluesKaj: it installs for me some intel driver that nobody knows what it does :D
[14:15] <BluesKaj> it appears , but doesn't gather any HW info , the list is x'd out
[14:16] <BluesKaj> usually the HW info is optional graphics or wifi drivers 
[14:17] <soee> BluesKaj: here http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/20/workspace15.png
[14:18] <Riddell> yay all of kf5 in except khtml still building
[14:18] <BluesKaj> soee, yup , I don't get that list here ...is that on 14.10?
[14:18] <soee> vivid
[14:18] <BluesKaj> really, then I'm missing some libs obviously
[14:20]  * BluesKaj checks the sources.list
[14:24] <BluesKaj> driver manager doesn't show any options here ...must be missing a repos 
[14:24] <soee> Riddell: at 5.2.2 status http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.2_vivid.html we have infor that user_manager is not in ppa so maybe same for 5.2.1 - it is not available in system ? just a bling shot
[14:25] <Riddell> soee: yeah it's not got a stable release but kubuntu includes the unstable 5.1.95 beta release
[14:26] <Riddell> which means we need to do extra checking to make sure it works
[14:27] <BluesKaj> odd , component universe is enabled, but driver manager is still not working in 15.04 here
[14:28] <BluesKaj> oh well, the 340 driver is installed and working ok , so i guess it's moot at this point
[14:29] <soee> BluesKaj: no idea, maybe start it from konsole and see if any errors show up when gathering hardware info
[14:31] <BluesKaj> no response in the terminal, soee
[15:48] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: The script seems to work: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/spider.tar.gz
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: pong
[17:16] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: still here?
[17:22] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: do you know size the header image needs to be ?
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'll start working on the Website guidelines and draft there some rules about the featured image
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> which will will be the header on each page
[17:25] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[17:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Is this a downsteam patch ?   https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123080/
[18:13] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Jup.
[21:31] <sgclark> ugh sddm still broken for me
[21:31] <soee> sgclark: why ? whats wrong
[21:31] <sgclark> boots straight to terminal
[21:31] <sgclark> no biggie can systemctl start sddm
[21:32] <sgclark> but blah
[21:32] <sgclark> if I was a normal user I would go running haha
[21:32] <soee> ah jest there was tha command to mae it work
[21:33] <soee> lordievader: you know something about it ^
[21:33] <sgclark> anyway back to plasma sorry for the delay
[21:33] <soee> we have time till next wthurday i think :D
[21:33] <soee> but im ready to test 5.2.2 as soon as it is ready
[21:34] <soee> i mist say i love how smooth plasam 5 works on lap
[21:34] <soee> *on my lap
[21:34] <sgclark> yep, I am very happy with plasma5! sddm and systemd not so much lol
[21:35] <sgclark> well I don't know which to blame really
[21:35] <yofel> sgclark: systemctl status sddm
[21:35] <yofel> and check whether it says enabled or disabled
[21:36] <soee> and this is the biggest issue now, systemd and sddm have to be fixed before release
[21:37] <sgclark> yofel: it is enabled :(
[21:37] <sgclark> been there
[21:37] <yofel> systemd works pretty much fine from my experience, sddm not so much
[21:37] <sgclark> yeah I think it is addm toh
[21:37] <sgclark> sddm*
[21:37] <sgclark> tbh sigh
[21:38] <sgclark> err
[21:38] <soee> and if we add to this 2 also nvidia-prime ... :)
[21:38] <sgclark> or not, my mouse no worky either
[21:38] <yofel> that's also sddm :P
[21:38] <sgclark> *grumbles at nvidia*
[21:39] <KDDA> I have noticed a slower boot time, is that due to systemd?
[21:39] <soee> and lightdm is to mad to use it now
[21:39] <sgclark> yeah my boot time is definately much slower
[21:39] <soee> it wants to install whole unity desktop by default
[21:39] <KDDA> *grumbles at unity*
[21:39] <sgclark> soee: lol yeah I ended up with quite a mess a few installs ago with lightdm
[21:40] <sgclark> in in an effort to get nvidia drivers lol
[21:43] <Riddell> sgclark: systemctl enable sddm
[21:43] <Riddell> yay khtml is in, kf5.8 is happy
[21:43] <sgclark> Riddell: it is already enabled :(
[21:43] <Riddell> hmm
[21:43] <sgclark> still makes me systemctl start sddm to boot
[21:44] <yofel> sgclark: 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' says?
[21:44] <soee> there was some other command lordievader showed me to fix sddm
[21:44]  * yofel isn't sure when that's used though..
[21:44] <sgclark> I think it may be that the lappy is on a USB drive atm since I had to do all that windows work for kdeci
[21:44] <soee> at my work pc
[21:45] <sgclark> no such file or directory
[21:45] <sgclark> perhaps that is my issue?
[21:46] <sgclark> where would that file come from?
[21:46] <sgclark> oh wait omg, sddm did indeed get disabled again wth
[21:47] <yofel> the file might actually be obsolete
[21:49] <sgclark> well it is enabled once again. hopefully it does not get disabled again
[22:17] <ovidiu-florin> I have a confession to make 
[22:17] <ovidiu-florin> I love you guys 
[22:18] <ovidiu-florin> And the community 
[22:18] <valorie>  ovidiu-florin <3
[22:18] <valorie> even though i"m not a guy
[22:18] <ovidiu-florin> Guys as in everybody 
[22:18] <ovidiu-florin> Boys and girls 
[22:19] <lordievader> ;)
[22:20] <ovidiu-florin> I don't think I would still have been in open source if it weren't for you
[22:20] <valorie> sure, "all men are created equal" was supposed to apply to us all, except -- women didn't have a vote
[22:20] <valorie> :-)
[22:20] <valorie> one thing I love about this community is that really all are welcomed
[22:21] <valorie> not everybody wants a grandma around!
[22:22] <lordievader> That is exactly what I like about this community, here it doesn't matter if you know a lot about Linux or development or just a little. :D
[22:22] <ovidiu-florin> Why not? That's just crazy 
[22:23] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: ^
[22:24] <valorie> brogrammer culture is just for frat-boys
[22:24] <valorie> they don't like women or any minorities really
[22:24] <valorie> except to use
[22:24] <valorie> sad to say
[22:25] <valorie> and there are orgs full of attitudes like that
[22:25] <valorie> so happy that all of  ubuntu and certainly KDE does not allow that kind of person to hang out
[22:25] <valorie> or at least say/act in hateful ways
[22:27] <ovidiu-florin> 😊
[22:29] <mparillo> Children  love their grandmothers. They share a common adversary. And, yes, this community is special.
[22:29] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/checker.tar.gz <-- includes the script and the output.
[22:31] <valorie> mparillo: lol
[22:35] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: awesome, Thank you very much 
[22:35] <KDDA> I must say I much prefer Kubuntu community over Ubuntu any day!
[22:35] <ovidiu-florin> I'll start debugging them in the morning 
[22:36] <valorie> KDDA: we do have our own special sauce, I think
[22:36] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: No problem, do something fun with it ;)
[22:37] <lordievader> valorie: A blue sauce?
[22:37] <valorie> lol
[22:37] <valorie> with whisky, I think
[22:39] <Riddell> "#kubuntu  has been my #linux  distro since.....2005" says claydoh_ 
[22:39] <Riddell> anyone able to beat that?
[22:40]  * yofel drops a needle..
[22:40] <KDDA> afraid not
[22:40]  * yofel is here since 09
[22:41] <KDDA> I only came over after the introduction of "Unity"
[22:42] <valorie> I think maybe late 2005 or maybe 2006
[22:42] <valorie> not quite sure
[22:42] <valorie> started on Mandrake in 2001, briefly tried gentoo but kept breaking my new computer
[22:42] <Riddell> gentoo?  you're so eliteist :)
[22:43] <valorie> son said, brown or blue, and I chose blue and I've been on kubuntu every since
[22:43] <valorie> ha!
[22:43] <valorie> I'm very good at finding ways to break my computer
[22:43] <valorie> :/
[22:44] <Riddell> good choice :)
[22:44] <valorie> Riddell: never looked back for sure
[22:45] <valorie> too bad I didn't know about the community back then, or IRC
[22:45] <valorie> well, I knew about IRC, but not freenode
[22:46] <valorie> at least I got maco into kubuntu, and then she dragged me into freenode
[22:46] <claydoh> Riddell: there has to be *someone* who's used it longer ;) I can't remember exactly when in '05, but I did join kubuntuforum in september that year
[22:49] <claydoh> great article, by the way!
[22:50] <mparillo> KDDA: Me too. It was 11.04 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_11.04_.28Natty_Narwhal.29
[22:52] <valorie> Riddell probably holds the record, hands down
[22:55] <KDDA> I think it was Kubuntu I tried and it blew up my monitor :/
[22:55] <ahoneybun> Riddell: some reason khelpcenter4 was removed
[22:55] <valorie> I've never had any major problems
[22:55] <KDDA> was very early on
[22:55] <ahoneybun> valorie: I applied for Ubuntu membership board
[22:56] <valorie> although when i tried to shut down last night I could not
[22:56] <KDDA> valorie: I have been having issues shutting down
[22:56] <valorie> was going to try that again today but my buddy from Paris came online
[22:56] <valorie> it wouldn't restart either
[22:57] <yofel> ahoneybun: khelpcenter4 is no more
[22:57] <ahoneybun> yofel: oh ok
[22:57] <KDDA> have to do it via Ctrl+Alt+F2
[22:57] <ahoneybun> Khelpcenter5?
[22:57] <ahoneybun> yofel: ^
[22:57] <KDDA> login in and sudo shutdown now
[22:57] <yofel> ahoneybun: 5 is 'khelpcenter'
[22:58] <ahoneybun> Ok
[22:58] <valorie> KDDA: yes, I wanted to wait for today's updates and see if it was fixed before filing a bug
[22:58] <KDDA> any luck?
[22:58] <yofel> hm, does anyone actually have tty*1* ?
[22:58] <valorie> right now in the middle of some other stuff
[22:58] <yofel> or did we forget to make sddm not conflict that
[22:59] <valorie> I have tty 1
[22:59] <yofel> hm, guess I'll check for updates
[23:00] <KDDA> I seem to have it too
[23:00] <yofel> soee: ok, I take my words back. I do have one systemd issue: network bridge auto setup doesn't work
[23:00] <KDDA> I thought the GUI was moving to F1
[23:00] <KDDA> it was for a bit
[23:09] <soee> yofel: i dont know what that is :D
[23:10] <KDDA> Im getting an error message as well "ACPI PCC Probe failed"
[23:11] <valorie> ok gonna try restarting to see if the sddm bug still lives
[23:12]  * KDDA crosses fingers 
[23:22] <valorie> hmmm, still had to use cli to quit
[23:23] <valorie> still had to use systemctl start sddm to get in
[23:23] <valorie> and wifi didn't start automatically
[23:23] <valorie> in fact, it had lost config to do that
[23:24] <valorie> so we are not home free
[23:24] <valorie> torrents aren't running either for no reason I can see
[23:35] <ahoneybun> valorie: ktorrent will not start for you too?
[23:36] <valorie> it starts, but was running no torrents
[23:36] <valorie> I made it check all info and now that seems to have knocked some sense into it
[23:36] <valorie> perhaps because it started before wifi
[23:38] <valorie> now uploading again
[23:50] <valorie> also buglet in the screen locker - cursor no longer in the textbox automatically, which is slightly annoying Every Time
[23:51] <valorie> and the slideshow has stopped erasing one image before putting in the next
[23:51] <valorie> which can be really strange
[23:51] <valorie> I need to know packagenames so I can report these to bko