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| StevenK | RAOF: O Hai | 01:24 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | StevenK: Yo! | 01:24 |
| StevenK | RAOF: So, I bought a GeForce GTX970 yesterday ... and Trusty does not love it at all | 01:24 |
| StevenK | RAOF: I thought LTS releases were supposed to get updates to support new hardware? | 01:25 |
| StevenK | From what I can see, only Vivid has a new enough version of the binary driver to support the card. | 01:25 |
| RAOF | It should get ported back, yes. | 01:26 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Do you keep tabs on where stuff is up to, or that more someone else? | 01:28 |
| RAOF | You'd be looking for tseliot | 01:28 |
| StevenK | I thought so | 01:28 |
| StevenK | RAOF: In the mean time, I need fresh crack? | 01:29 |
| StevenK | The description for that PPA is not very encourging :-P | 01:29 |
| RAOF | StevenK: rmadison nvidia-current tells me that trusty-updates has the same version as vivid. | 01:30 |
| StevenK | RAOF: nvidia-346 exists in Vivid | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Ah. nvidia-current is a lie. | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Good, good. | 01:30 |
| StevenK | Yes -current is not current at all | 01:31 |
| RAOF | Hm. | 01:31 |
| * RAOF heads out to lunch. | 01:32 | |
| StevenK | RAOF: Huh. So installing nvidia-346 from the edgers PPA ends up gnome-terminal only showing as a black box | 02:22 |
| StevenK | If I click in the right area, it does close, at least | 02:22 |
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| tjaalton | nvidia-current-updatest | 04:18 |
| tjaalton | -t | 04:18 |
| tjaalton | latest in -proposed i guess | 04:19 |
| StevenK | tjaalton: rmadison doesn't show -proposed, but current-updates in trusty-updates is still only 304.125 | 04:19 |
| tjaalton | oh right, not -current* anyway :) | 04:29 |
| tjaalton | 346.47 was uploaded to vivid last week | 04:32 |
| tjaalton | so looks like it's not uploaded to trusty yet then | 04:33 |
| StevenK | It looks like my three choices are, 1) Have no X at all, 2) Have a broken X, due to -edgers or 3) Install 346 myself and hopefully everything works | 04:35 |
| StevenK | Frankly, all of those options suck. | 04:35 |
| tjaalton | don't pull all of edgers | 04:36 |
| tjaalton | just the driver and then disable it, or use apt pinning | 04:36 |
| tjaalton | it=the ppa | 04:36 |
| StevenK | tjaalton: Which the descriptions for -edgers said do not do | 04:36 |
| tjaalton | wonder why | 04:37 |
| tjaalton | since the blobs aren't tied to any specific driver abi | 04:39 |
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| infinity | StevenK: Just install the blob from vivid, they're blobs+dkms, the release they're uploaded to is irrelevant. | 04:45 |
| StevenK | infinity: Just rebooted, to make sure X libraries didn't contaminate RAM or loaded libraries, and I have lightdm up, so that's promising | 04:57 |
| StevenK | Haha. But gnome-terminal is still just a black box | 04:58 |
| infinity | StevenK: I'd say you get to take up that bug with the people whose binary driver you're using. :P | 05:03 |
| StevenK | Blah | 05:04 |
| happyaron | cyphermox: hey, wonders what's the status of the SRU for bug 1325801? | 06:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1325801 in Ubuntu CD Images "failed to boot from USB disk with error: gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R Image boot:" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1325801 | 06:00 |
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| tjaalton | what's the story with gpg-agent/ssh-agent, I still don't have them on a vivid session | 06:31 |
| tjaalton | there was a bugreport at some point | 06:43 |
| tjaalton | huh, works on my laptop though | 07:20 |
| tjaalton | gnome-keyring-gpg that is | 07:21 |
| tjaalton | ah, it's just run so late that my terminator shells didn't get that.. | 07:27 |
| donniezazen | The design tab of Qt-Creator is grayed out on my Kubuntu 14.04 box. Anyone would know why? | 07:29 |
| didrocks | smoser: assigned you bug #1434020, don't know yet if your -4ubuntu7 fixes it but worth a look still | 07:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1434020 in systemd (Ubuntu) "With systemd 219-4ubuntu6, ifup fails on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434020 | 07:30 |
| tjaalton | hmm no. why does a single terminator shell have all the GPG stuff exported, but not one with my own layout | 07:32 |
| tjaalton | if a terminal is started from alt-f2 it doesn't have them | 07:34 |
| zyga | hey, vivid boot today was bad, nothing came up normally, systemd seems to have dbus issues | 08:07 |
| zyga | I brought eth0 up maually and I'm trying to update | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | 1434020? | 08:08 |
| zyga | not sure, I'm in text mode | 08:09 |
| tjaalton | "With systemd 219-4ubuntu6, ifup fails on startup" [Undecided,New] | 08:09 |
| tjaalton | 7 available | 08:10 |
| zyga | how do I copy / paste in screen | 08:10 |
| zyga | ^A [ but then what? | 08:11 |
| tjaalton | set the first mark with space | 08:12 |
| zyga | anyway, pastebin.ubuntu.com/10632989 | 08:12 |
| zyga | that's 10K of journald logs | 08:12 |
| tjaalton | do you have -4u7? | 08:12 |
| zyga | looking | 08:13 |
| tjaalton | apt-cache policy systemd | 08:13 |
| zyga | 4u7 | 08:13 |
| tjaalton | k | 08:13 |
| zyga | yes | 08:13 |
| zyga | update now borked on something, looking at that :/ | 08:13 |
| zyga | policykit + dbus seem borked, this prevents configuration of udev | 08:14 |
| zyga | tjaalton: is there a workaround for that bug? | 08:14 |
| tjaalton | not that I know of | 08:15 |
| zyga | tjaalton: thanks, I'll lurk around in my 90's linux console and see what happens | 08:15 |
| zyga | ;) | 08:15 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:21 |
| zyga | o/ | 08:21 |
| dholbach | hi zyga | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | meh, something is actively cleaning up /run/shm? | 08:43 |
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| alf_ | Hi all! This morning, after booting, I found my .bash_history to be 0 bytes, any ideas what could have happened? I am on (almost) latest vivid, have lots of disk space free, no signs of disk problems. | 08:56 |
| zyga | alf_: hey, at least you got to boot :) | 08:59 |
| alf_ | zyga: :) | 09:01 |
| mpt | Ah, bdmurray, thanks for fixing bug 1084979! | 09:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1084979 in apport (Ubuntu Utopic) "Submitting error report asks confounding questions" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084979 | 09:15 |
| Chipaca | we're past translatable texts freeze for v, yes? | 09:55 |
| adam_magic_pack | slangasek: hi, could you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hwe-next/+bug/1396429 ? there is a v2 patch. cert qa found this issue on more and more new machines. cc ypwong | 10:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1396429 in HWE Next "[Lenovo ThinkPad ?40 series] Wireless key cannot turn BT off" [High,Triaged] | 10:14 |
| adam_magic_pack | slangasek: root cause is in patch commit message, you could give another fix if mine is ugly =,= | 10:16 |
| adam_magic_pack | is described in commit message, I mean | 10:17 |
| * zyga wonders if pitti is working today | 10:48 | |
| tjaalton | zyga: nope, on vacation still | 10:51 |
| zyga | tjaalton: oh, that's not good :/ | 11:08 |
| * zyga has no working machine with ubuntu now | 11:08 | |
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| rbasak | In uvtool, the uvtool package owns /var/lib/uvtool/, and the uvtool-libvirt package owns /var/lib/uvtool/libvirt/ | 11:48 |
| rbasak | I want to remove all of /var/lib/uvtool/ when the user purges both packages. | 11:48 |
| rbasak | But the uvtool postrm runs before the uvtool-libvirt postrm. | 11:48 |
| rbasak | So the rmdir of /var/lib/uvtool fails. | 11:48 |
| rbasak | I'm doing rmdir /var/lib/uvtool || true, but that means that it remains after the inside is cleaned up. | 11:49 |
| rbasak | And I have a bug report because someone thought the rmdir failing was an error (since it still printed the error even if the exit status was ignored). | 11:49 |
| rbasak | What am I doing wrong. How should I arrange things instead? | 11:49 |
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| smoser | didrocks, :-( | 12:40 |
| smoser | i dont think my uploda would have fixd that. | 12:40 |
| didrocks | smoser: so, regression from ubuntu6? mind having a look? | 12:40 |
| smoser | i'd suspect its still racey. | 12:40 |
| smoser | regressoin from 5 | 12:40 |
| smoser | still present in 7 i suspect. | 12:40 |
| didrocks | smoser: maybe ask the user to try 5 and reboot multiple times? | 12:41 |
| didrocks | maybe just got unlucky and first time the races showed up for him was after latest upgrade | 12:41 |
| smoser | well, his explanation is good. | 12:41 |
| smoser | he diagnosed the problem well. | 12:42 |
| smoser | and i did change the creation of that directory. | 12:42 |
| smoser | its easy enough to fix, by just creating the dir, but do you know how /run gets mounted ? other than in the initramfs . | 12:43 |
| didrocks | smoser: let me look quickly, I think it's at early stage of systemd, one sec | 12:44 |
| smoser | so the short of it is , that if /run is guaranteed to be mounted when ifup@.service is run, then 'mkdir -p /run/network' there is fine. | 12:44 |
| smoser | but we dont want those to create and use /run/network before /run is mounted | 12:44 |
| didrocks | smoser: oh, if it's the question, it's guaranteed to be mounted even before any unit start | 12:45 |
| didrocks | smoser: the generators are running as the first systemd setps, and they are using /run | 12:45 |
| didrocks | steps* | 12:45 |
| didrocks | (even before the transactional service path computation) | 12:45 |
| smoser | didrocks, so i think then its fine to just have ifup@ do a mkdir /run/network | 12:46 |
| didrocks | smoser: why not setting it After=systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service? | 12:46 |
| didrocks | as you have the mkdir there | 12:47 |
| smoser | i dont have a strong feeling on it. | 12:47 |
| smoser | your solution forces ifup@ to run afer that, meaning guaranteed to start later (or at best same time). i dont know. | 12:48 |
| didrocks | smoser: let's preferably do that. I think we'll have some boot speed task before LTS when we will revisit | 12:48 |
| smoser | i suspect this all happens REALLY FAST and REALLY EARLY | 12:48 |
| smoser | :) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | heh :) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | we just need to ensure to document the patch to not just drop this After= | 12:48 |
| smoser | but after is fine with me. | 12:49 |
| didrocks | without further thoughts | 12:49 |
| didrocks | smoser: want to do it or should I? | 12:49 |
| smoser | i'm happy to let you do it, but i'm also happy to do it myself as its my regression. | 12:49 |
| smoser | but i will ask you for a review... this is my first real experience with systemd. | 12:49 |
| didrocks | smoser: sure, please do then and poke me :) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | smoser: if you base on the git branch, we are using gbp-pq | 12:50 |
| smoser | juts as a bit of info, the upstart jobs did 'mkdir -p /run/network' (or equivalent) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | (see debian/README.source) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, but there was not this "create dir" facilities | 12:50 |
| didrocks | let's centralize it there | 12:50 |
| smoser | right. thats fine. | 12:51 |
| smoser | is there a git-import-dsc ? | 12:51 |
| didrocks | smoser: I'm mostly old-school and apply debdiff manually… | 12:52 |
| smoser | k | 12:52 |
| smoser | didrocks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10634625/ | 13:14 |
| didrocks | smoser: you need the .service suffix | 13:15 |
| smoser | i was just checking that. | 13:15 |
| smoser | :) | 13:15 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:15 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10634632/ | 13:15 |
| smoser | didrocks, do you want me to create a git branch for you and push it somewhere ? | 13:15 |
| didrocks | smoser: yeah, looks good to me. I trust more your testing with manual network setup that I would on mine | 13:16 |
| didrocks | smoser: on git branch -> just give some patch-format files, and I'll get them applied | 13:16 |
| smoser | didrocks, well, my testing is suspect for sure. although yesterday i did painfully walk through 6 reboots of my laptop. | 13:20 |
| didrocks | smoser: well, we get some racing issues blocking the whole boot appearing every ~30 boots, pitti had fun bisecting! | 13:22 |
| smoser | didrocks, aren't those just: | 13:23 |
| smoser | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/systemd_219-4ubuntu5_219-4ubuntu6.diff.gz | 13:24 |
| smoser | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/systemd_219-4ubuntu6_219-4ubuntu7.diff.gz | 13:24 |
| didrocks | smoser: yeah, but would be nice to get some git-format patch for them (so that the commit is credited with a nice commit message). No hurry, we can deal with that next week | 13:25 |
| smoser | k | 13:25 |
| Riddell | is anyone able to say what's up with https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-konsole/ARCH=i386,label=adt/75/console ? "test dependencies are unsatisfiable" but it's fine on amd64 | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: is it possible it's just skew in when builds for different architectures were available? I can mash retry | 13:31 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: mash retry? sounds fun | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | infinity, seems oyu made fakechroot rather unhappy with the new libc ... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/200713317/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch_0.88_BUILDING.txt.gz | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | /usr/sbin/chroot: °§^6ß: SH‰ûHÇÁþÿÿÿHƒìH‹²(: Error 18446744073178213872 | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | (but at least there is a smiley in the error) | 13:39 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: there might be several you don't know what the uncoded elements are ;) | 13:40 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: done | 13:53 |
| Riddell | thanks | 13:53 |
| xnox | hallyn: https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/pull/4 | 13:53 |
| xnox | hallyn: also emailed the alioth mailing list | 13:53 |
| xnox | hallyn: who are the shadow maintainers? do i need to ping anyone else? | 13:53 |
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| flexiondotorg | Is some piloting today? | 14:07 |
| flexiondotorg | I have a few package updates I'd really like actioning so I can get some QA done this weekend. | 14:07 |
| flexiondotorg | Nice debdiffs, super simple 😉 | 14:07 |
| Laibsch | Is the mirror: protocol for apt still actively developed? | 14:10 |
| Laibsch | or is it more likely that http.debian.net will be adopted? | 14:11 |
| Laibsch | I'm sure many mobile users would love to have a better solution for getting their downloads | 14:11 |
| Laibsch | I'm frequently transiting between three different countries that are 6-12 hours away by plane and have vastly different networks. | 14:12 |
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| ogra_ | Laibsch, what mobile users do you mean ? | 14:12 |
| Laibsch | people who are not always connected to the same network | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | ah, not mobile phone users then.. i see | 14:13 |
| Laibsch | unless you are (always connected to the same network) having a fixed mirror in sources.list isn't going to be ideal | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i thougth you referred to ubuntu on phones :) | 14:13 |
| Laibsch | well, could be mobile phone users, too (in one of the countries, I'm frequently connected over mobile phone, sometimes as slow as 2G without edge, ouch!) | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | (we dont use apt/dpkg there( | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | ) | 14:14 |
| Laibsch | no, this is not about Ubuntu on phones, my apologies if that was confusing | 14:14 |
| Laibsch | opkg? | 14:14 |
| Laibsch | that's the one being used last time I was involved in embedded | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | no, its my conditional brain beeping if i read "mobile" anywhere, not your fault :) | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | no, we use click packages on the phones | 14:15 |
| ogra_ | (and "soon" will use snap packages) | 14:15 |
| flexiondotorg | Anyone available for a little sponsoring? | 14:18 |
| roaksoax | doko_: thanks for working on dj1.6 | 15:01 |
| roaksoax | doko_: we will do a little testg, and upload to vivid, that ok with you? | 15:01 |
| doko_ | roaksoax, sure | 15:01 |
| roaksoax | doko_: do we need to file a FFe/MIR or anything along those lines? | 15:01 |
| doko_ | I don't think so. no new code, was already there | 15:02 |
| roaksoax | doko_: ok, great! | 15:02 |
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| doko_ | infinity, looking at the glibc cross builds, multilib-stage1.diff still not applied :-/ | 15:07 |
| doko_ | roaksoax, please see mdeslaur's python-django upload and apply these to the python-django16 packages too | 15:21 |
| mdeslaur | python-django16? | 15:22 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | hi, can anybody please sync poedit from debian/experimental (I'm the maintainer) | 15:31 |
| Laibsch | doko: May I ask if the code behind http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt is still being actively developed? | 15:42 |
| doko | Laibsch, sorry, I'm the wrong person to ask | 15:46 |
| Laibsch | doko: I see. Sorry for the noise. I thought you were the one who developped the code in 2011. | 15:47 |
| hallyn | stgraber: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-nova-adt-cgmanager/1/ is this a temporary failure in the infrastructure? (I don't see any actual cgmanager tests being run there) | 15:49 |
| stgraber | hallyn: I think the -nova ones are some test new infrastructure | 15:54 |
| stgraber | hallyn: the one you want to look at is https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-cgmanager/ | 15:54 |
| hallyn | stgraber: ok - i got an email about the othe rone | 16:01 |
| hallyn | thanks | 16:01 |
| hallyn | will ignore then :) | 16:01 |
| infinity | ogra_: Fun. | 16:25 |
| ogra_ | infinity, i guess we'll have to wait til it migrated | 16:25 |
| infinity | ogra_: Hrm? | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | to test again ... seems to be rather unhappy if there are diferent libc versions inside and outsiode the fakechroot | 16:26 |
| infinity | Oh, really? That's... Poor design. | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | i tried adding -s (--use-system-libs) to the fakechroot call to force usage of the new libc ... but i get a segfault instead of the cryptic error then | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | well, fakechroot is all LD_PRELOAD stuff afaik ... so not unreasonable that it gets confused between the two libc's | 16:28 |
| stgraber | hallyn: fginther just sent an e-mail saying to disregard any e-mail regarding -nova- | 16:28 |
| infinity | mvo: You around? | 16:29 |
| mvo | infinity: about to leave for dinner, sup? | 16:29 |
| infinity | mvo: The apt autopkgtest regression doesn't look like it would be glibc's fault, but can you have a poke at it? | 16:29 |
| infinity | mvo: When you're not busy eating. :) | 16:30 |
| hallyn | stgraber: yeah saw it - thx | 16:30 |
| mvo | infinity: I meant to look at it, I suspect its a race in some way, but I'm not seeing it on the debian autopkgtest and on travis and not locally, this is a bit annoying, | 16:30 |
| infinity | mvo: Oh, you don't locally see it with glibc_2.21? | 16:31 |
| infinity | mvo: In that case, I'll retry it a few times, and you can worry about fixing it later. | 16:31 |
| infinity | Although, I doubt a retry will help, it seems pretty consistent in our infra. | 16:32 |
| mvo | infinity: let me double check | 16:32 |
| infinity | But, not related to glibc, it failed before too. So, yay. | 16:32 |
| mvo | aha, ok | 16:32 |
| dholbach | LocutusOfBorg1, the casablanca update is probably not a bug fix release, right? | 16:38 |
| dholbach | might be worth subscribing the release team there | 16:39 |
| mvo | infinity: I might found the issue, lets see if this upload helps | 16:44 |
| infinity | mvo: \o/ | 16:50 |
| infinity | mvo: I thought you were eating. | 16:50 |
| Laney | mvo subsists on a diet of bugs | 16:53 |
| dholbach | yummy | 16:57 |
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| Noskcaj | Can someone please sync gnumeric? The latest debian release has a crashfix and drops a unneeded recommend | 19:25 |
| jamespage | coreycb, doko: as part of the python update for 14.04 we must co-ordinate with openstack upstream to get fixes landed into stable branches first | 19:27 |
| jamespage | otherwise when we push the SRU, we'll break alot of the upstream gating process and make ourselves very unpopular | 19:27 |
| doko | jamespage, if we update, then not before June/July | 19:28 |
| jamespage | doko, that gives us plently of time to get fixes proposed and landed - I'll work with coreycb before then to communicate plans etc... | 19:28 |
| coreycb | jamespage, alright. cinder and neutron are submitted for icehouse and juno. I didn't submit the keystone patch since it hasn't landed in kilo yet. | 19:29 |
| jamespage | coreycb, urgh | 19:29 |
| jamespage | coreycb, ok lemme nudge that along | 19:29 |
| coreycb | jamespage, thx | 19:29 |
| doko | infinity, fyi, the guile-2.0 ftbfs seems to be triggered by the new glibc, just verified | 19:39 |
| doko | on powerpc | 19:39 |
| infinity | doko: Where did you verify? | 19:50 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: that release of gnumeric looks like it comes with some new features, i'd suggest filing an FFe | 19:56 |
| smoser | i need an archive admin help | 20:14 |
| smoser | i need to NACK 2 uploads for sru. | 20:14 |
| smoser | curtin upload to -proposed in utopic and trusty | 20:15 |
| smoser | actually, please ignore that statement. | 20:18 |
| infinity | smoser: So, you don't want me to reject them? Cause I was really looking forward to it. | 20:20 |
| smoser | go ahead and reject if you want. | 20:21 |
| infinity | smoser: Well, make up your mind. :) | 20:21 |
| smoser | i have one small change | 20:21 |
| infinity | Right. If you need to change, I'll reject. | 20:21 |
| smoser | please do. thank you | 20:23 |
| smoser | infinity, thank you. now, since you're feeling nice, you could ack the entry of my replacement uploads into -proposed . | 20:58 |
| infinity | smoser: Not just now. | 21:00 |
| infinity | doko: Okay, guile-2.0 failure reproduced, chasing it up. | 21:09 |
| infinity | doko: And I think I found the bug, testing a fix. | 21:16 |
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| ericsnow | how can I tell which vivid daily build I have installed? | 23:29 |
| elfy | have you updated today? | 23:34 |
| infinity | ericsnow: Context? Talking read-only builds like ubuntu-core/snappy, or just regular old Ubuntu? | 23:35 |
| infinity | ericsnow: For the latter, you can tell which media you installed *from*, with /var/log/installer/media-info, mine says "Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Alpha amd64 (20121209)" | 23:36 |
| infinity | ericsnow: But as elfy implies, what you're running depends on the day you last updated/upgraded. | 23:36 |
| infinity | For me, that was yesterday. | 23:36 |
| elfy | oh sorry - thought I was elsewhere tbh ... | 23:37 |
| ericsnow | infinity: just trying to identify which vivid daily build we are running on some test infrastructure | 23:54 |
| ericsnow | infinity: the folks who run it all are EOW | 23:54 |
| ericsnow | (and I'm too impatient to wait until Monday to ask them) | 23:55 |
| infinity | ericsnow: Right, well, like I said, you can see what it was installed from. But as soon as someone runs apt-get update/upgrade, that value is meaningless. | 23:59 |
| ericsnow | infinity: right, I expect we run update/upgrade every night | 23:59 |
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