[01:07] <pleia2> ochosi: have polo?
[01:07] <pleia2> (the shirt, not the sport)
[03:31]  * micahg wonders if the gmusicbrowser issue isn't due to libgstreamer-perl not being rebuilt in vivid
[03:40] <micahg> well, that would be a symptom
[04:01]  * micahg thinks he was chasing an untamed ornithoid without cause
[04:02] <Unit193> Heh. :)
[04:25] <Unit193> Bitbucket likely spammed you about me adding mgersten too. :P
[04:26] <micahg> heh, don't get those emails anymore...
[06:18] <Unit193> micahg: Bugfix releases still a-ok?
[06:19] <micahg> as long as it doesn't affect UI for Doc string freeze
[06:19] <micahg> s/for/or/
[06:21] <Unit193> micahg: Would you mind syncing thunar-dropbox-plugin from exp, or should I do a request?  It has 2 functional changes, one prevents a crash and the other makes it so it doesn't break on symlinks.
[06:21] <micahg> let me check
[06:22] <Unit193> https://github.com/Maato/thunar-dropbox/commit/36021d97ff80db39f0ec0a782eb1056a8898606c
[06:29]  * genii freaks out then calms down
[06:32] <micahg> Unit193: build system changes usually require FFe (IIRC)
[06:32] <micahg> should be easily enough approved
[06:33] <micahg> then I'd be happy to sync 
[06:33] <Unit193> It shouldn't, still uses waf just uses the autoinstall rather than pkg-config to install. :/
[06:33] <Unit193> Oh well, I can either FFe or whatever works I suppose.
[06:34] <micahg> if you don't mind, I think it's a nice cleanup, but I think it might technically need the approval since we're switching from the packaging handling multiarch to upstream (as I said should be welcome and easily approved)
[06:36] <micahg> I see that requirement never quite made it to the wiki...
[06:36] <micahg> idk
[06:38] <micahg> feel free to subscribe me
[06:40]  * micahg is probably just being more cautious than anything
[06:41] <micahg> ok, I'm off, have a good night
[06:44] <Unit193> lp 1434398
[06:44] <Unit193> G'night.
[06:45] <genii> 'night
[06:46] <micahg> commented and subscribed
[10:44] <ochosi> !team | reminder: community meeting in about 15mins
[10:44] <ochosi> pleia2: i received the polo yesterday, could only try it on today, i can share some pix i snapped with you and knome 
[10:59] <bluesabre> :|
[10:59] <bluesabre> :)
[10:59] <bluesabre> :D
[11:00] <ochosi> going through the motions, eh? :)
[11:00] <ochosi> alrighty everyone, meeting time!
[11:00] <ochosi> #startmeeting
[11:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Mar 20 11:00:28 2015 UTC.  The chair is ochosi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[11:00] <bluesabre> announcing my presence, nothing more
[11:00] <ochosi> !team | meeting time, who's here?
[11:00] <ochosi> and everyone else
[11:01] <bluesabre> o/
[11:03] <bluesabre> morning meetings are always lonely around here
[11:03] <ochosi> seems like it
[11:03] <ochosi> righty, well we can still do a brief one
[11:04] <ochosi> elfy mentioned that images were broken, but should be fixed by today
[11:04] <bluesabre> mhm
[11:04] <bluesabre> haven't tested yet
[11:04] <ochosi> i'm currently syncing the image, will then give it a brief spin
[11:04] <ochosi> me neither
[11:04] <ochosi> had a busy week
[11:05] <bluesabre> yeah, I've been out and about or busy at home myself
[11:06] <ochosi> #topic Open action items
[11:06] <ochosi> i guess most of those we'll have to carry forward, soince the assignees aren't around
[11:06] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:07] <ochosi> #action Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs
[11:07] <meetingology> ACTION: Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs
[11:07] <ochosi> #action elfy to add the "game issue" into the meeting agenda 
[11:07] <meetingology> ACTION: elfy to add the "game issue" into the meeting agenda
[11:07] <ochosi> #action knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion
[11:07] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion
[11:08] <bluesabre> technically the games thing is on the discussion part of the agenda
[11:08] <ochosi> #topic Team updates
[11:08] <ochosi> right
[11:08] <ochosi> #done elfy to add the "game issue" into the meeting agenda 
[11:09] <ochosi> any updates from your side?
[11:09] <bluesabre> #info Xfce 4.12 has been uploaded to vivid and the xubuntu-staging PPA.
[11:10] <bluesabre> #info Unit193 set up a package tracker for the xfce projects in Debian, Ubuntu, and our PPAs https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html
[11:10] <ochosi> #info Gmusicbrowser 1.1.14 has been released. It now supports gstreamer1.0, we should try to get it in the staging-PPA and test it for a potential FFe for 15.04
[11:11] <ochosi> mm, nice page Unit193 
[11:11] <bluesabre> there was something else, give me a bit to try to remember it
[11:11] <ochosi> sure
[11:13] <bluesabre> #info We'll be updating the team/subteam descriptions on Launchpad shortly to conform to a standard layout
[11:14] <bluesabre> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-subteams Let us know if you have any feedback for the proposed layout
[11:14] <bluesabre> We'll probably start applying this over the weekend
[11:15] <bluesabre> not sure I have any more updates right now
[11:15] <ochosi> ok
[11:15] <ochosi> let's move on then
[11:15] <bluesabre> k
[11:16] <ochosi> #topic Announcements
[11:17] <bluesabre> #info Upcoming milestone: Final Beta Freeze on Monday, Final Beta on Thursday
[11:18] <bluesabre> #info Xubuntu 12.04 EOL is next month, we should make a formal announcement
[11:19] <ochosi> indeed
[11:19] <ochosi> i don't have any other announcements
[11:19] <bluesabre> I think that's it from me as well
[11:20] <ochosi> k
[11:20] <ochosi> #topic Discussion
[11:20] <ochosi> so we have those three topics, which are actually all for 15.10
[11:21] <bluesabre> good job for us getting ahead of the game :)
[11:22] <ochosi> personally i 'm not a huge fan of messing with our default apps too much
[11:22] <ochosi> it's not (just) about tradition, but people have been more or less happy with them
[11:24] <bluesabre> yeah, the only one I find to be troublesome is Abiword
[11:24] <ochosi> the iso size would be the best reason (for me) to change the apps a lot
[11:24] <ochosi> yeah, i agree
[11:24] <bluesabre> So many bugs (theme and functionality) stem from that
[11:24] <ochosi> yeah
[11:25] <ochosi> gimp would only make sense if we find a really good replacement for it
[11:25] <bluesabre> right, and as time marches on we may have to consider other apps if an application becomes too unmaintained or too old
[11:26] <ochosi> i don't have a strong opinion on the games tbh
[11:26] <bluesabre> the games we have are small and common
[11:26] <bluesabre> no benefit in dropping them
[11:27] <ochosi> yeah
[11:28] <ochosi> i don't mind if we discuss this again, but it doesn't make too much sense if there's only the two of us :)
[11:28] <ochosi> i say we keep these items on the agenda for now
[11:28] <bluesabre> yup
[11:28] <ochosi> k, anything else you wanna discuss?
[11:28] <bluesabre> since I have your attention, want to comment on http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-subteams ? :D
[11:29] <ochosi> heh, crap
[11:29] <ochosi> alright :)
[11:29] <bluesabre> knome authored the new stuff, and i have no complaints about the direction
[11:29] <ochosi> "perpetually" - really?
[11:30] <bluesabre> current descriptions, some are good, others not so much ;)
[11:30] <ochosi> the template looks good
[11:31] <bluesabre> cool
[11:31] <ochosi> so yeah, let's update all descriptions following that templ´ate
[11:31] <ochosi> definitely a nice improvement
[11:32] <bluesabre> cool
[11:32] <ochosi> good, anything else?
[11:33] <bluesabre> don't think I have anything else at the moment
[11:33] <bluesabre> I'll probably do some translation releases this weekend for different projects
[11:33] <ochosi> cool
[11:34] <ochosi> #topic Schedule next meeting
[11:34] <ochosi> #action ochosi to schedule the next meeting
[11:34] <meetingology> ACTION: ochosi to schedule the next meeting
[11:34] <ochosi> #endmeeting
[11:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Mar 20 11:34:35 2015 UTC.  
[11:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-03-20-11.00.moin.txt
[11:34] <bluesabre> thanks ochosi
[11:35] <ochosi> thanks bluesabre (and all you lurkers!!)
[11:35] <bluesabre> :D
[11:38] <ochosi> crap, seems like meetingology didn't recognize nicks because those folks had no lines in the meeting or something
[11:39] <ochosi> instead **Unassigned**
[11:39] <bluesabre> oh right
[11:39] <ochosi> anyway, gotta run, bbl
[11:40] <bluesabre> seeya ochosi
[11:45] <frombenny> can we include an app like Bleachbit or Ubuntu Tweak to wipe out old packages that aren't in use after an update?
[13:33] <elfy> ochosi: why you scheduling next meeting? shouldn't Unit193 be next? 
[13:33] <ochosi> uh, dunno, it was me for XPL and now me for artwork. i guess i forgot about our policy of the same person not chairing twice in a row
[13:34] <ochosi> we should really update the list on the meetings page for these cases of amnesia
[13:45] <elfy> ochosi: done :)
[13:47] <ochosi> ty :)
[13:47] <ochosi> Unit193: sorry for the confusion, please go ahead and schedule the next meeting when you can
[13:47] <ochosi> elfy: i've downloaded today's image, will test a bit later. have you gotten round to it yet?
[14:08] <flexiondotorg> Hi guys
[14:08] <flexiondotorg> elfy, As of today, X is not busted anymore. I helped with the testing etc. All good again.
[14:09] <flexiondotorg> elfy, However does Xubuntu ship the Additional Drivers tools?
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> I've noticed that is now no longer possible to install the Virtualbox additions via that tool. 
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> Considering https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1368784/ - that is quite a big problem now.
[16:22] <micahg> Unit193: I see someone beat me to the punch on the upload
[16:22] <micahg> sorry I missed the meeting, a bit early here
[16:22] <ochosi> hey micahg 
[16:23] <ochosi> any chance to get a package for testing gmb1.1.14 with gstreamer1.0?
[16:23] <micahg> I can't get to it today, but I can certainly look at it over the weekend
[16:24] <ochosi> okeydokey
[16:26] <micahg> I guess the good news is I'm much more familiar with git than I was 2 years ago :)
[16:26] <ochosi> i tried upstream gmusicbrowser, but i'm not sure it doesn't just use 0.10 since i still have that installed too
[16:26] <ochosi> hehe, good :)
[16:27] <micahg> the new version can use either
[16:27] <micahg> or neither
[16:27] <ochosi> i know
[16:27] <ochosi> but only 0.10 has an explicit cli option it seems
[16:27] <ochosi>  -gst0
[16:27] <micahg> right, default is 1.0
[16:28] <ochosi> gotta buy some grocieres, bbiab
[16:28] <ochosi> groceries too
[17:50] <knome> well of course i'm here late ;)
[17:55] <elfy> flexiondotorg: yes we use additional drivers - it's not something we worry about much, and I for one wouldn't get in a tizz over vbox extras - people should install the oracle one :p
[17:56] <elfy> ochosi: I'd not had time to do more than check what should be there was 
[17:56] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Huh?
[17:56] <elfy> [14:10] <flexiondotorg> I've noticed that is now no longer possible to install the Virtualbox additions via that tool. 
[17:56] <elfy> I never do - I use the oracle one and install guest addition inside vbox
[17:58] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Yeah, but this tool has always worked until recently.
[18:07] <elfy> yea don't doubt it - just saying it's unlikely that anyone in team here is going to worry about it much :)
[18:36] <dkessel> flexiondotorg: i believe xnox just issued an update for the drivers Installation package. Maybe he would be interested if you ping him in #ubuntu-devel
[20:06] <Unit193> micahg: Heh, so it'd seem.
[23:59] <Unit193> gmb done.