[00:18] valorie: for the wifi, could it be https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344600 [00:18] KDE bug 344600 in applet "Network Manager Widget does not 'remember' to connect to previous WEP network" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:03] hmmm, I encountered that bug before but worked around it [02:03] I see it's not been fixed [02:04] I will provide the asked-for logs now that I've rechecked "connect automatically" when I next restart [06:51] Good morning beautiful people [07:31] just got here after reading http://lwn.net/Articles/635880/ [07:32] happy birthday kubuntu :) [07:33] <3 [08:05] Good morning. [08:37] are there some tasks to do ? [08:38] i might be able to develop something :) [08:38] in my spare time [08:41] Riddell: do I still need to keep the Invoices and bills for the T-shirts for FOSDEM? [08:41] Should I keep them and give them to you at Akademy? [08:42] Riddell: I have them in digital format, will that suffice? [08:59] ovidiu-florin: um depends, who are you wanting money back from? [09:00] hi gordon_, welcome along [09:01] gordon_: I don't suppose you have a printer? that autodetection needs some love [09:01] Riddell: I already got the money [09:01] ovidiu-florin: from whom? [09:01] gordon_: lots of bugs like working out what the problem is with ubiquity and non-english languages [09:02] gordon_: you could get into packaging, we always have lots of that [09:03] gordon_: you could work out what what we do about bug 1430893 do we switch to Fcitx [09:03] bug 1430893 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Install Fcitx for Chinese users" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1430893 [09:12] Riddell: KDE GB [09:16] ovidiu-florin: 514.65 to you? digital copies of receipts for that would be nice [09:17] £ that is [09:24] Riddell: I'll mail them to you [10:18] Good Morning all [10:28] Hiyas all [10:30] hi Jiyuhen [10:30] welcome along [10:31] Riddell: Thank you very much [10:53] hi leyyin [10:53] hi [10:54] welcome along, want to become an elite kubuntu ninja? :) [10:54] just hanging around, I wanted to do a gsoc this year, but plans changed :) [10:54] and yes I'm on kubuntu 14.04 right now ;) [10:55] bah old school, all the cool kids are testing 15.04 beta :) [10:55] lts :P [10:58] sgclark: out of curiosity, what does 'debconf-get-selections | grep default-x-display-manager' say on your system? (You might have to install debconf-utils) [11:07] yofel, http://pastebin.ca/2961972 [11:07] I was curious , yofel :) [11:08] yeah, that looks right.. I was reading sddm.postinst earlier and remembered her saying that she has no /etc/X11/default-display-manager, but looking at the postinst script that seemed strange... [11:13] /etc/X11/default-display-manager shows /usr/bin/sddm here, which is what I'm using by default on 15.04 [11:13] hi Simon_B [11:14] Hi Riddell, it's my first time here ... just looking [11:15] good morning [11:15] 'morning soee [11:44] Simon_B: welcome along, let us know if you want to become an elite kubuntu ninja :) [13:20] Riddell: So many Ninja's :) [13:21] Questions on Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 5, can be asked here? === drawkward_ is now known as drawkward [13:27] Riddell: do we suppport Plasma5 on 14.10 through next ppa ? [13:42] Jiyuhen: you can try but we mostly consider that unsupported so chances are the answer will be to upgrade to 15.04 beta [13:42] soee: ↑ [13:44] Riddell: ok so this is what i just told user @ #kubuntu [13:44] s/upgrade/reinstall/ is better [13:44] Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [13:47] Riddell: Thank you. I just realized, that I cannot add a printer and it won t recognize my external HDD. I guess, that can only be fixe by upgrading to the beta, mh? [13:47] Jiyuhen: right [13:48] Riddell: Fun! :) [13:53] Riddell: I just read up on it. So I would need to do a reinstall as a direct upgrade from 14.10 with Plasma 5 is not possible. [13:53] I do need more coffee :) [13:54] Jiyuhen: you can try to install kubuntu-desktop and upgrade from there, but a new install is easier and more reliable I think [13:55] Riddell: Stupid Question - That does mean, if I run the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it will rewerde to the previous one? [13:55] Jiyuhen: it'll install plasma 4 [13:59] Riddell: Alright. I give it a thought. [14:00] Riddell: Anything, next to just install the kubuntu-desktop, I would absolutely need to do? [14:04] I don't think so [14:05] Ok, Cheers! [14:05] kubuntu-restricted-extras [14:06] BluesKaj: mh? [14:08] for java and flash [14:08] plus some codecs [14:19] yofel: sddm shared/default-x-dispay-manager select sddm [14:33] BluesKaj: Ah ok! Thank you - Sorry a bit slow atm ;-) [14:35] Jiyuhen, np , some users don't bother with the extras [14:38] BluesKaj: True that. As long HTML5 isn t the prominent way, those are quite neccessary. :) [14:38] yes [14:38] I am still starring at my dekstop thinking, if I really want to go back to just 4.10. :) [14:41] altho some sites that advert to my laptop that i need flash (which isn't installed) will play videos, the web maintainers have obviously setup some sites as HTML5 enabled without officially adverting it [14:41] and I i've encountered quite a few of them [14:42] It 'll come for the whole Net, I am cerain of it. HTML5 is a beauty [14:44] Jiyuhen, it's an experiment , no flash and no pulseaudio , the audio and the gpu are both intel [14:46] I see [14:59] youyube runs fine, they've already switched to HTML5 for example [15:01] BBC hasn't yet which surprises me , the CBC here in Canada doesn't make any noise about being HTML5 ready, but it works [15:02] BBC used realplayer for years after the rest of the world had dropped it [15:05] I never really unterstood, why realplayer was dropped. It was not a bad format. It was insanely good in compression movies. [15:07] low res [15:08] They should have learned from the chinese - They got it quite right [15:08] Riddell: I am rather baffeled on khelpcenter. it is dying on doc generation. [15:09] and oxygen.. the missing files are in the install file [15:14] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9237199 anyone with an account please up-vote [15:17] ronnoc: you could collect the best comments from there and lwn and make a wire article :) [15:20] " * remove kwin-decoration-oxygen package, it no longer builds" [15:21] sgclark: those translation files should be in kwin-decoration-oxygen but kwin-decoration-oxygen no longer exists so they are correctly listed in list missing [15:21] sgclark: and debian/not-installed doesn't work with wildcards so it has "./usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/oxygen_kwin_deco.mo" but that doesn't get picked up [15:22] sgclark: so solution is to fix list-missing; add all the .mo files into not-installed; or better would be just just ignore it [15:22] oh. I don't see in list-missing at all [15:23] sgclark: mm looks like khelpcenter is a bad tar, someone should complain to the upstream release dude [15:23] lol [15:23] hey Riddell ^ [15:25] what that scarlett? khelpcenter doesn't compile you say? the brazillian translations are stuck down an old mineshaft you say? [15:25] lol [15:43] Worth sharing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9237199 Even without the upvote please, is that spamming for votes? I suspect some distros do that on DistroWatch. [15:52] mparillo: go ahead :) [16:00] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/02/ubuntu_15_04_flavours_vivid_vervet/ [16:00] "I did not encounter any serious problems in my testing, but it is a beta, of course." weird, that sentence usually says "I did" :) [16:06] aret the dailies newer than the beta1 images? [16:08] yes [16:08] new each day [16:11] thanks, Riddell, that's what I figured [16:12] sgclark: new khelpcenter up on depot ready for packaging! [16:12] k [16:12] ty [16:20] Riddell: khelpcenter show Kubuntu on the side, but can;t find docs [16:22] ahoneybun: meh really? [16:33] sgclark: breeze needs build-dep on KF5IconThemes ? [16:33] something has happened recently where the cmake output from frameworks is moaning more about missing deps [16:33] I wish I knew what [16:35] * Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/03/21/plasma-release-scripting/ [16:43] Riddell: yea let me grab a screenie [16:45] Riddell: okies [16:46] ahoneybun: it's ok I believe you :) [16:47] ahoneybun: can you report a bug? [16:53] God I do love Kubuntu! [16:54] Riddell: http://imgur.com/Njj2FfF [16:54] I love the first comment on the hacker news article https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9237199 [16:56] reddit comment not quite so clever http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2zponw/ten_years_of_kubuntu/ [16:59] ahoneybun: can you report a bug? [17:08] Riddell: yea against the kubuntu-docs? [17:09] yep [17:11] ok so "apport kubuntu-docs" Riddell? [17:12] ahoneybun: or just use launchpad directly [17:14] Riddell: apport tags it directly no? [17:15] mm I don't know [17:15] it ads a bunch of tags, but not the kubuntu one [17:15] *adds [17:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/1434857 [17:24] Launchpad bug 1434857 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Docs are missing" [Undecided,New] [17:26] thanks [17:31] ahoneybun: Riddell ping [17:35] hi ovidiu-florin [17:36] I need some ideas for the featured image for each page [17:36] I'm reffering to the pages available from links on the main page (nav bar and footer) [17:42] ovidiu-florin: example? [17:43] Riddell: something that can work, if we don't have anything else: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/ [17:43] Riddell: this is a BIG no no: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ [17:43] hint: the featured image is behind the title [17:44] Riddell ahoneybun I heed feedback on how the title looks over the featured image [17:44] what do you think? [17:46] ovidiu-florin: looks good as long as you can find suitable images for it :) [17:46] ovidiu-florin: thats pretty cool [17:46] ovidiu-florin: mostly just use KDE wallpapers? [17:46] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/plasma-workspace-wallpapers/ ? [17:47] should we stick with this design for the title? or should I use the other idea, The tile below the featured image [17:47] and the one in /usr/share/wallpapers/Next/contents/images [17:47] which will kind of separate the title from the header [17:47] IMO it's better like this [17:47] I'll get some feedback from other designers [17:54] I'm sure the vdg group will be happy to comment, but the main objective should be to get it ready rather than worry too much about the details [18:08] Riddell: I am confused, yes the changelog says kwin-decoration-oxygen was removed but the control says otherwise and now FTBFS on missing file in that package. [18:27] I went to facebook, but I prefer to leave fewer tracks. I only just noticed that Vivid did not offer a guest login option. Does sddm not have a guest account at all? Not by default? [19:39] sgclark: so make sure the package is dead [19:39] Riddell: commencing the killing then. thanks [21:11] anyone know of a tool for Kubuntu for file manager via ADB? [22:06] the end of the last comment on Riddell's lwn article is hilarious: "Why do you (and other KDE distros) want to play Robin when in fact you are the holy Batman?" [22:39] Riddell: wow, great article! great history lesson about Ubuntu, wasn't aware of all these details. [22:39] and: private jets? nifty [22:49] comments are fun, too [22:52] where are you reading the article? [22:52] KDDA: https://lwn.net/Articles/635880/ [22:52] seriously, epic article, I like it a lot. kudos [23:45] Riddell: ^