[00:29] <scientes> only shipping gnome 3.14, not 3.16?
[00:31] <k1l_> iirc they are always a littlebit too late for the freeze
[00:32] <scientes> but i thought you purposefully aligned it with gnome releases
[00:32] <scientes> like fedora
[00:33] <k1l_> no. the ubuntu release dates are always april and october.
[00:35] <k1l_> i mean when will 3.16 be final on gnome?
[00:35] <k1l_> in 4 days :X
[00:36] <scientes> so why wont vivid ship it
[00:37] <k1l_> well. look at the freeze days. gnome is just too late
[00:37] <scientes> back to what i just asked
[00:37] <scientes> the whole point of ubuntu was to not be so stale as debian.....
[00:37] <scientes> that original motivation is kinda being dropped....
[00:38] <k1l_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule   there, look for yourself
[00:38] <scientes> yes i have
[00:38] <scientes> but ubuntu use to do this
[00:38] <scientes> release latest gnome
[00:38] <scientes> guess they stopped after unity shipped
[00:38] <k1l_> you know that you have to freeze some day? else you will be having the issues that debian and fedora have
[00:38] <scientes> fedora is also on 6 month cycle
[00:38] <scientes> and debian jessie is frozen
[00:39] <k1l_> once again: ubuntu did only once push the release back, but its always april and october
[00:39] <k1l_> fedora releases when they want to. they dont have proper relase cycles
[00:39] <scientes> no k1l_ ubuntu use to track gnome development branch in their development cycle
[00:39] <scientes> thats not true, fedora has a 6 month cycle they just often push it back a month or so
[00:40] <k1l_> yeah, you name it. they push back
[00:40] <scientes> but ubuntu use to track development gnome
[00:40] <scientes> guess they dropped that after unity
[00:40] <k1l_> no
[00:41] <k1l_> i dont know why you want to make that up
[00:41] <scientes> they did
[00:41] <scientes> I remember like 7.10 and such
[00:41] <scientes> they would release with gnome release cycle
[00:41] <scientes> rather than one behind
[00:42] <k1l_> i try to find the release dates from gnome, if they changed them
[00:42] <scientes> but ubuntu doesn't ship gnome by default anymore since gnome-3
[00:42] <scientes> so it makes sense for them to drop that
[00:43] <k1l_> but you make it sound like ubuntu changed something on purpose to not allign with gnome anymore. but its obvious that ubuntu didnt change since the ubuntu release dates are fix
[00:43] <scientes> i'm saying there use to be an exception for gnome
[00:43] <scientes> freeze exception
[00:44] <scientes> gnome froze fedubary 16
[00:45] <scientes> hard freeze was this last monday, they are frozen
[00:46] <k1l_> feature and debianimportfreeze was on feb. 19th
[00:46] <k1l_> for ubuntu
[00:46] <k1l_> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-Almost-Got-GTK-plus-3-16-But-Too-Many-Things-Needed-Fixing-473642.shtml
[00:46] <scientes> oh ok
[00:48] <k1l_> gnome does it only their way and doesnt really accept patches (the old birth of unity story) so ubuntu needs to patch stuff. i dont know if the gnome-ubuntu guys ship the 3.16 with a ppa or something like that
[06:07] <snadge> get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2: (6) No agents were available for this request. :|
[06:11] <snadge> pptp vpns were working until last update .. :| rebooted.. not working
[06:16] <snadge> what just broke it.. was network manager updated?
[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:56] <kkop> Hi. On one ethernet cable IO
[09:57] <kkop> Hi. On one ethernet cable I'm not able to connet with internet on Lubuntu 15.04 - cable works on other laptop with Windows, and first computer I'm able to connet to other ethernet cables. How can I connect?
[09:58] <kkop> In other words - I'
[09:59] <kkop> In other words - I've got laptop with Lubuntu 15.04 that works with ethernet connetions, but not with specific one - but this connection itself is OK cause another laptop with Windows sees internet with this connection.
[10:00] <kkop> Any suggestions how to fix this?
[10:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <ngaio> what can I do when lightdm fails to start properly? (I assume that's the login screen that flashes on screen for a second or so)
[13:06] <penguin42> ngaio: Normally dig about in the lightdm logs to see what went wrong
[13:06] <penguin42> ngaio: /var/log/lightdm
[13:14] <ngaio> penguin42, thank you. At the moment I'm logged into Utopic on another partition, which I'm using to chat here and look at the Vivid lightdm.log. Results are here if anyone is interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10642564/
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ngaio, whynot just use the default sddm ?
[13:21] <ngaio> BluesKaj, I have no idea why it's starting up. How do I make it use sddm?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ngaio, if you're on 15.04 then sddm should be default
[13:23] <BluesKaj> or is it not default on ubuntu 15.04?
[13:25] <ngaio> BluesKaj, maybe because I installed from a Kubuntu daily ISO 5 weeks ago and installed the Unity desktop after that, something got messed up?
[13:26] <ngaio> or maybe it's something to do with a systemd bug? I don't know! :-)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> ngaio, not sure either , maybe try sddm ?
[13:28] <ngaio> BluesKaj, how can I install it? I can boot into Vivid and get to a virtual terminal using ctrl-alt-F2
[13:28] <ngaio> sudo apt-get install sddm ?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:29] <ngaio> thanks, I'll try it now
[13:29] <BluesKaj> then when you boot , you may have to run systemctl enable sddm
[13:30] <BluesKaj> ngaio,^
[13:30] <ngaio> BluesKaj, I run that using sudo from a virtual terminal?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> yes after booting, if addm fails to get to the login
[13:30] <BluesKaj> sddm
[13:31] <ngaio> thanks
[13:39] <ngaio> BluesKaj, I ran sudo apt-get --reinstall install sddm, rebooted, and got what looks to be the KDE login greeter (judging by its appearance). Is that expected, given I originally installed from a Kubuntu daily ISO?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ngaio, yes, and the lightdm greeter brings up a unity like page here when sddm fails
[13:41] <BluesKaj> if lightdm is installed
[13:43] <ngaio> does that mean sddm failed to run, so it's falling back to the KDE greeter?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> ngaio, did you see a dialog asking which dm you wanted to use ?
[13:49] <ngaio> BluesKaj, no, never!
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ngaio, afaik both ligtdm and sddm are installed on 15.04, but sddm is default on kubuntu
[14:00] <ngaio> BluesKaj, thanks. lightdm is definitely failing at startup for me, so I guess it's dropping back to sddm then. As long as I can login, it doesn't bother me. If it would be helpful to file a bug regarding the lightdm failure, I can. When booting just now I saw a message flash by about a missing dependency for lightdm
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ok . maybe that bug has already been filed, ngaio
[18:40] <Dreaman> comand terminal upgreat to 15.04
[18:40] <k1l_> from which ubuntu?
[18:41] <Dreaman> 14.10 32 bit
[18:41] <k1l_> use do-release-upgrade or update-manager with the -d switch
[18:41] <Dreaman> ok
[18:42] <Dreaman> thenks
[18:43] <Dreaman> use terminal comand
[18:44] <Dreaman> update-meniger error
[18:44] <Dreaman> update-manager error
[18:44] <k1l_> update-manager is the gui updater.
[18:45] <Dreaman> is a cirillic not to read
[18:45] <k1l_> use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" for terminal
[18:45] <Dreaman> error
[18:46] <k1l_> what error?
[18:47] <Dreaman> hdd not place
[18:47] <k1l_> !paste | Dreaman
[18:47] <Dreaman> i not spek good english
[18:47] <k1l_> what is your native language?
[18:47] <Dreaman> bulgaria
[18:47] <Dreaman> bulgarian not russian
[18:48] <Dreaman> ok stay to 14.10
[18:49] <Dreaman> Partition: ID-1: / size: 34G used: 7.0G (22%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
[18:49] <Dreaman>            ID-2: /boot size: 226M used: 152M (73%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
[18:49] <Dreaman>            ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
[18:50] <Dreaman> update repos but start
[18:51] <Dreaman> upgreat
[18:51] <Dreaman> comand
[18:51] <Dreaman> terminal
[18:55] <k1l_> what is the error you get?
[18:56] <Dreaman> 34 gb hdd partishan not place free
[18:56] <Dreaman> 7
[18:56] <Dreaman> gb use
[18:56] <Dreaman> 34
[18:57] <k1l_> is it sda7 or is the sda6?
[18:57] <Dreaman> i use duble boot with win
[18:57] <k1l_> can you put "df -h" into the pastebin on paste.ubuntu.com?
[18:57] <Dreaman> 40 gb ubuntu
[18:57] <Dreaman> and 200 win
[18:58] <Dreaman> ok
[18:59] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645272/
[19:00] <k1l_> and what gives you "do-release-upgrade"? please in a pastebin, too
[19:01] <Dreaman> is not new release
[19:01] <Dreaman> in cirillic
[19:02] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645289/
[19:03] <k1l_> lsb_release -d ?
[19:04] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645303/
[19:05] <k1l_> "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[19:07] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645319/
[19:08] <k1l_> ok, run a "apt-get update" and then again "do-release-upgrade"
[19:08] <k1l_> ok, run a "apt-get update" and then again "do-release-upgrade -d"
[19:09] <Dreaman> ok
[19:09] <k1l_> sorry, missed the -d at the end
[19:10] <Dreaman> ok
[19:12] <Dreaman> boot part not place
[19:12] <Dreaman> ok reinstall thenks
[19:12] <Dreaman> :)
[19:12] <k1l_> wait
[19:12] <Dreaman> ok
[19:12] <k1l_> pastebin a "ls -al /boot"
[19:13] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645365/
[19:14] <k1l_> Dreaman: ok we can remove some old kernels and you can upgrade to 15.04 after that
[19:14] <Dreaman> comand
[19:14] <Dreaman> autoclean
[19:14] <Dreaman> or
[19:14] <k1l_> please put a "dpgk -l | grep linux-image"
[19:14] <k1l_> please put a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" into a pastebin << sorry had a typo on dpkg
[19:15] <Dreaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10645376/
[19:16] <k1l_> "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.16.0-28-generic linux-image-3.16.0-29-generic linux-image-3.16.0-30-generic linux-image-3.16.0-31-generic"
[19:17] <k1l_> after that "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[19:17] <Dreaman> ok
[19:17] <k1l_> than there should be enough space on /boot to upgrade with "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[19:18] <Dreaman> ok
[19:20] <Dreaman> up thenks :)
[19:20] <Dreaman> :)
[20:36] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 3.19.0-9-generic i686 (32 bit)
[20:36] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.3.1  Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid
[20:36] <Dreaman> :)
[20:40] <hanlon2> hi.  I've installed vivid-server.  systemd's working in most cases as I'd expect/hope.  I've installed shorewall pkgs -- they're not yet shipping with upstream's systemd unit files.  no problem -- add my own in /etc/systemd/system/shorewall*
[20:40] <hanlon2> BUT, I can't manage to get update-rc.d to 'let go' & stop trying to sync state with sysvinit.  Here's what I see: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a61892f66a2002030798
[20:40] <hanlon2> The unit files & shorewall work fine on my prior OS; I'm not sure if I've faile to properly modify my config, or I'm dealing with a bug here.
[20:41] <hanlon2> Any advice how to 'decouple' Vivid's systemd & upstart (I think that's what it's called?) correctly?
[21:34]  * penguin42 double takes as he sees wget's progress indicator slow scrolling a long filename
[21:46] <freezer> hi
[21:47] <freezer> having some mouse issues with Ubuntu 15.04, is that a known issue? E.g. scrolling is unreliable; like when holding down the right mouse button in firefox and scrolling a page it tends to just get stuck and i need to release and do it again
[23:29] <stef1a> i'm going to try this again: when i try to install skype, i get an unmet dependencies error on skype-bin. help?
[23:35] <penguin42> stef1a: What is the exact error
[23:36] <stef1a> http://pastebin.com/UdakiS3t
[23:43] <penguin42> hmm don't know; I can see there are older reports of something similar