[06:20] <s7habo> Hi everione! One friend of mine just got his german version of  BQ ubuntu phone and we noticed that some core apps need some better translations. We would like to make some sugesstions but I dont' now how. Can someone pleasretell us where we can make the proposals
[07:29] <Pleurodesed> I got my bq ubuntu phone woooo!!
[07:29] <Pleurodesed> I messed it up already waaaaa!! :(
[07:31] <Pleurodesed> here's how to mess up your ubuntu phone in a few simple steps:
[07:31] <Pleurodesed> Step 1: Lock it with a pin.
[07:31] <Pleurodesed> Step 2: Download the terminal.
[07:32] <Pleurodesed> Step 3: Change the password with the command passwd
[07:32] <Pleurodesed> Step 4: Get locked out because lock screen doesn't admit characters
[07:51] <Pleurodesed> luckily it was rather easy to hard-reset!
[08:39] <Pleurodesed> OK question:
[08:39] <Pleurodesed> I can't sudo apt install because dpkg lock files are set to readonly even for root
[08:39] <Pleurodesed> how bad of an idea would it be to enable write permissions?
[08:40] <Pleurodesed> are we meant NOT to use apt-get? I want to install git :(
[08:54] <Talustus> hehe
[09:06] <Pleurodesed> ooooh now I see the read-write mode
[09:07] <Pleurodesed> nice documentation you've got around, guys
[10:34] <AskUbuntu_> How can install a .deb file in ubuntu-touch? | http://askubuntu.com/q/599488
[12:50] <mangnoppa> Hello, i have mounted / in rw to copy some ringtones to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones. My question now, how can i reverse this setting? Can someone help me?
[15:33] <xhoch3> hello o/
[15:34] <xhoch3> I received my Ubuntu Phone today :)
[15:34] <popey> \o/
[15:34]  * popey is jealous
[15:34] <xhoch3> mixed feelings about it
[15:34] <popey> understandable.
[15:35] <popey> first device on the market, platform isn't complete yet.
[15:35] <xhoch3> well, also chosing a low budget device wasn't maybe the most clever idea
[15:36] <popey> i think it was the _best_ idea
[15:36] <xhoch3> it's ok, as a developer I understand and I value it. But this could really be end when headed towards "normal" users
[15:36] <popey> aim to make sure it works on the lowest thing we can
[15:36] <popey> it flies on faster devices
[15:37] <popey> it's good discpline to make stuff work on midrange or low end devices
[15:37] <popey> but I understand the frustration.
[15:37] <xhoch3> the problem is it crouches on the first official device :P
[15:37] <xhoch3> which is bad advertising
[15:37] <xhoch3> lots of stuttering, more than 1st gen android devices
[15:38] <popey> the good news is you'll get software updates for it :)
[15:38] <popey> it's not like we shipped a device and forgot about it.
[15:38] <popey> but yeah, I certainly see how a slow device in 2015 can be annoying
[15:39] <xhoch3> and it needs a lot more polishing
[15:39] <xhoch3> ubuntu logo isn't anti-aliased in system settings
[15:40] <xhoch3> no gesture unlock
[15:40] <popey> I'd not noticed that, thanks, will feed that back
[15:40] <k1l_> if you file bugs i am sure people will try to make that better
[15:40] <xhoch3> where do I do that?
[15:40] <popey> depends on the app - for system settings...
[15:41] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bugs
[15:41] <xhoch3> below, device info
[15:41] <popey> yeah, i see it now.
[15:41] <xhoch3> the last to items' logos aren't anti-aliased
[15:41] <xhoch3> =)
[15:41] <popey> i suspect that's a toolkit bug
[15:41] <xhoch3> I work at a mobile app company
[15:41] <popey> due to them being in a listview
[15:41] <xhoch3> I do that all day :P
[15:41] <popey> although the plane looks okay
[15:41] <popey> heh
[15:42] <popey> hmm, its fine on my other device running vivid
[15:42] <popey> so it may already be fixed, but waiting to land in an update
[15:42] <xhoch3> icons in the launcher look blurry
[15:42] <xhoch3> maybe something is wrong with scaling there
[15:43] <popey> yeah, guess we're using an inexpensive algorithm for that
[15:43]  * popey is making notes. don't feel you have to file bugs.
[15:43] <popey> I'll take a look on monday
[15:44] <xhoch3> kk, it's weekend anyways
[15:44] <xhoch3> pinch zoom is supposed to work in the browser, right? Or am I holding it wrong? ;P
[15:44] <popey> lulz
[15:45] <xhoch3> oh, now it works
[15:45] <xhoch3> didn't work before
[15:45] <popey> works here
[15:45] <xhoch3> Heisenbug
[15:45] <popey> i think it may depend on the flow of the page
[15:45]  * popey makes a note
[15:45] <popey> I know someone else raised that this week
[15:45] <xhoch3> I just went on google
[15:45] <adrian47> popey, hello
[15:45] <popey> adrian47: hi
[15:46] <popey> yeah, first site i was on didn't, then news.bbc.co.uk did
[15:46] <xhoch3> is there a list of high-priority apps that need to be developed?
[15:46] <popey> that depends who you ask
[15:47] <popey> everyone has their own idea of what's a priority
[15:47] <xhoch3> btw, embracing Qt was a good move
[15:47] <popey> +1
[15:47] <popey> we have people working on some of the common things people ask for like native email client.
[15:47] <xhoch3> we already develop apps with QML
[15:47] <popey> but we could always do with more people to help
[15:47] <popey> oh nice!
[15:48] <adrian47> i used rtm prenstalled with my port  now, and it boots a lot faster, i didn't have problems with wake up,  it worked a lot faster, unfortunately  removed some folders (/usr/share  maliit hunspell fonts locale-langpack) so it wasn't usable.
[15:48] <popey> yeah, no osk is going to be hard to use
[15:48] <adrian47> I will try it again in about hour :)
[15:49] <popey> xhoch3: one of the community members made a nice wishlist of things he'd like to see - I agree with many of his suggestions...
[15:49] <popey> https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/02/15/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist/
[15:49] <xhoch3> ok, where can I get a kickstart in how an app for Ubuntu Phone is deployed?
[15:50] <popey> http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[15:50] <popey> you develop in the SDK (qtcreator based) and it generates a "click" package which is uploaded to the click store.
[15:50] <popey> it's run through some automated testing and if it passes, it's available for consumers almost immediately
[15:50] <xhoch3> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/
[15:50] <popey> like minutes, not days
[15:51] <xhoch3> oh, cool
[15:51] <popey> yup, thats it
[15:53] <xhoch3> wow, found device instantly
[15:53] <popey> you use ubuntu on your pc?
[15:53] <xhoch3> yes, for years my main system
[15:54] <popey> ok, groovy
[15:54] <xhoch3> really, I have to use MacOS when doing iOS apps and I feel like being in the stone age
[15:54] <popey> hah
[15:54] <adrian47> I am moving these folders to other partition, symlink is good solution in that case?
[15:54] <popey> As a developer, we'd welcome feedback on how you find the process of getting started developing with / for / on Ubuntu.
[15:55] <xhoch3> xcode loses at all frontiers against QtCreator/Ubuntu SDK
[15:55] <popey> so if you have feedback on that whole process, the documentation etc, feel free to let me / us have it.
[15:55] <popey> thats a good start ㋛
[15:56] <xhoch3> it's slow, full of errors and even crashes from time to time, plus doing stuff in objective c is rather advanced hackery than developing
[15:56] <xhoch3> that's why I was so excited about Ubuntu Phone
[15:56] <popey> I thought people considered xcode to be high quality - comparable to visual studio
[15:56] <popey> better documentation for one
[15:56] <xhoch3> the usual blah
[15:57] <popey> hah
[15:57] <xhoch3> you won't convince hardcore apples
[15:57] <xhoch3> that's a law
[15:58] <xhoch3> everything made by apple is better by definition, no matter how crappy it is technically, but we have good laugh regularly :)
[15:59] <popey> :)
[16:00]  * popey goes foraging for food.
[16:01] <popey> have fun with your new toy xhoch3 :)
[16:01] <xhoch3> heh thx
[16:17] <xhoch3> oh, the Ubuntu SDK examples use cmake :(
[16:22] <xhoch3> popey, what was the idea behind doing Ubuntu SDK examples in cmake and rejecting qmake? I would regard this as a a major defect
[16:26] <xhoch3> oh noes, I see the core apps use cmake, too
[16:33] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti, "krillin" is the dual-sim device, right? How pulseaudio knows which sim (modem?) it needs to route voice to speaker?
[16:45] <xhoch3> popey, the faq says: If you want to publish an Ubuntu SDK app or scope for mobile devices, sign up for free to get a Software Store account.
[16:46] <xhoch3> actually, no link is given here where to sign up exactly
[17:26] <xhoch3> did anyone manage to deploy an app build with qmake? I really need qmake, since I am using 3rd party dependency software that relies on Qt's default build system
[17:27] <xhoch3> I just get: 18:24:41: The process "/home/jacob/.config/ubuntu-sdk/qmake-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf-click" exited with code 1.
[17:27] <xhoch3> Error while building/deploying project untitled (kit: Ubuntu Device (GCC armhf-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-utopic))
[17:27] <xhoch3> When executing step 'qmake'
[17:32] <xhoch3> turns out I don't have qmake-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf-click
[17:42] <adrian47> even on rtm my device hangs when connecting by ssh :((
[17:48] <xhoch3> adrian47, you're also doing your first steps with development on Ubuntu Touch?
[17:48] <adrian47> xhoch3, I am porting it :)
[17:49] <xhoch3> ah, to which device?
[17:51] <adrian47> To Desire HD loved by me.
[17:54] <xhoch3> I got the Aquaris E4.5 today =)
[17:59] <adrian47> And how you rate it? :)
[18:06] <xhoch3> you must be an Ubuntu fan to like it, nothing to show to your friends
[18:07] <xhoch3> feels cheap in your hand, because of the plastic, very light for its size
[18:07] <xhoch3> performance is bad
[18:08] <xhoch3> I'd say it's overpriced by 30-40%
[18:10] <xhoch3> adrian47, I ordered the phone out of enthusiasm, but I would wait for a better quality device if you can wait
[18:11] <xhoch3> even the outdated Nexus 4 I own feels luxurious in direct comparison, because of th metal frame and glass
[18:23] <adrian47> xhoch3, thanks, i don't want to buy it because i don't like it's look :)
[18:51] <studio_> hi
[18:52] <studio_> i have a question about external drives. how to unmount them via gui?
[18:54] <popey> We don't have a UI for that yet.
[18:55] <studio_> ok, still in work?
[18:55] <popey> I dont know of any plan to add it
[18:55] <studio_> ok
[19:00] <CereS2016> Hi, i inserted a Sim Card in a Nexus 4 flashed with ubuntu devel-propose. It keeps saying no SIM Card present..
[19:01] <CereS2016> installed it w/o sim card and today got a new sim card
[19:01] <xhoch3> CereS2016, I had that problem too, you need to remove SIM pin
[19:02] <xhoch3> Nexus4 cannot handle it
[19:02] <CereS2016> thx ok, can this be done in terminal?
[19:02] <xhoch3> ie, boot in another device, remove the pin, then insert in N4 again and you're up
[19:03] <CereS2016> ok, thx
[19:03] <xhoch3> brb
[19:05] <popey> I thought we supported SIM PIN now
[19:16] <studio_> a Gembird UHB-FD1 Hub is fully supported under Ubuntu-Touch via OTG, but when i connect a mouse i get no mouse pointer. is that normal?
[19:16] <CereS2016> removed sim pin - still not working :-(
[19:31] <studio_> when i am moving the mouse to the to the left i can see the shortcut/starter but no mouse pointer. any idea?
[19:48] <studio_> btw. i am using ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed if it can help ...
[19:53] <xhoch3> CereS2016, then I don't know :(
[20:07] <falcus> Network indicator tells me I am offline. Is there a way to debug or fix this?
[20:07] <falcus> Battery was at 0%, not sure if this is related
[20:07] <falcus> Rebooted several times and changes SIM twice
[20:40] <falcus> anyone?
[20:41] <studio_> falcus, sorry, i am also still waiting for an answer ...
[20:44] <falcus> What is your issue about?
[20:45] <studio_> no mouse pointer
[20:46] <falcus> Ok, can't help you with this one. Do you know what happens if I wipe the cache in the recovery mode? Maybe this will fix my issue but I don;t want to loose personal data
[20:48] <studio_> i never used wipe cache, just "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed"
[20:50] <studio_> falcus, what data do you need to save?
[20:56] <studio_> falcus, what are your "personal datas"? contacts, settings, etc. ?
[20:58] <falcus> text history, Contacts, maybe call history, maybe browser cache, maybe installed apps and settings
[20:59] <studio_> hmm, "good question" !!! i am still "trying" to understand the "basics" from ubuntu-touch ...
[21:02] <studio_> i do not understand, that evolution is not the default e-mail-client in ubuntu-touch, but evolution-tools are ...
[21:27] <studio_> there is another bug in the video player, it can handle mpga but not ac3 nor switch between mpga/ac3.
[21:29] <studio_> pls, try this for exp: http://distribution.bbb3d.renderfarming.net/video/mp4/bbb_sunflower_1080p_30fps_normal.mp4
[21:29] <DonkeyHotei> also, it cannot play ogg theora
[21:35] <studio_> ogg is working on my device!
[21:36] <studio_> uch, but hanging ...
[21:38] <falcus> Pretty much nothing is working when it comes to file types
[21:40] <studio_> on second try ogg seems to be working!?
[21:40] <falcus> not working: webp; webm, animated gif, svg, pdf, opus, flac, ...
[21:40] <jkb_> just installed vivid rel155. great work and super fast on aquaris 4.5.. But...Where have the home and nearby scopes gone.
[21:41] <studio_> jkb_, also filemanager and terminal is back in the image :)
[21:44] <jkb_> ?
[21:44] <studio_> jkb_, have you seen that apps before in the image?
[21:47] <xhoch3> did anyone manage to compile an app with C++ code?
[21:47] <xhoch3> half of the examples I am running do not work ootb
[21:47] <xhoch3> on the Simple UI and Tabbed UI example work here
[21:48] <jkb_> studio_, well, I had to install them manually. Have not checked if they ar in th eimage now...
[21:48] <studio_> :)
[21:50] <studio_> jkb_, if you need the scopes from bq try to use "--channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en"
[21:51] <studio_> but it is not worth ...
[21:54] <popey> studio_: evolution doesn't work on mir, nor on 960x540 resolution devices, not touch devices without a mouse
[21:54] <popey> studio_: so plenty of reasons not to use evolution
[21:57] <jkb_> studio_,  these just are bq things? where are the differences between those two images? You know? lot new to me.
[21:58] <studio_> popey, sorry, i do not understand, on a nexus for exp. the mouse pointer is working?
[21:59] <popey> studio_: hang on, I was answering your question about evolution, not about mouse pointer
[21:59] <popey> 21:02 < studio_> i do not understand, that evolution is not the default e-mail-client in ubuntu-touch, but  evolution-tools are ...
[21:59] <popey> that one
[21:59] <studio_> ah ok
[22:03] <studio_> jkb_, try out by yourself, there is no description between "ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en" and "ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed", but i "think" "ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en" is bq
[22:04] <popey> I suspect mouse cursor missing is just because we don't enable by default in mir
[22:04] <studio_> ok :)
[22:05] <studio_> popey, but why pplz here say OTG is not supported? for me it is working?!
[22:10] <popey> studio_: it's not well tested
[22:14] <studio_> after i researched what OTG is, just a shortcut between pin 4 and 5, to be a USB-Host is is, as i think, just depending from the kernel and its "drivers" ... but it seems, as i was reading in the internet, to be a little problem with MTK ....
[22:26] <studio__> but back to ac3 and mpga. will ac3 supported in the near future?
[22:40] <studio__> hmm, ...
[22:40] <popey> no idea if we'll add ac3
[22:40] <studio__> ok
[22:41] <studio__> on the bq e4.5 android-version it is supported