| ochosi | sweet | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | in -staging? | 00:00 |
| Unit193 | Unless I did something wrong... | 00:02 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:02 |
| * ochosi checks | 00:02 | |
| ochosi | hmm, no gmb here: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging | 00:08 |
| knome | (: | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | Oh right, because we like the word 'xubuntu' so much, we repeat it. | 00:10 |
| ochosi | hehe | 00:12 |
| ochosi | good point, but a bit late in the game to change the name of the PPA just for the sake of it | 00:12 |
| Unit193 | Take 2. | 00:12 |
| knome | ochosi, should ~xubuntu-project-lead own ~xubuntu-bugs ? | 00:14 |
| knome | ochosi, and ~xubuntu-users | 00:15 |
| ochosi | hm, good question | 00:15 |
| ochosi | who owns those teams now? | 00:15 |
| knome | i think bugs yes, users is a better question | 00:15 |
| knome | ~xubuntu-team | 00:15 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'd tend to agree | 00:15 |
| ochosi | users should be "free-er" | 00:15 |
| knome | they both have open membership | 00:15 |
| ochosi | yeah, i know, then again ownership might send the wrong signal | 00:16 |
| knome | xpl now owns bugs | 00:16 |
| ochosi | then again, i don't know if ppl really notice/care | 00:16 |
| knome | the logical argument is that the xpl should "own" all xubuntu teams | 00:16 |
| ochosi | yeah | 00:16 |
| knome | if not, then why should? | 00:16 |
| knome | there is no ~xubuntu-community | 00:17 |
| ochosi | true that | 00:17 |
| knome | which would be sematically nice, but technically so waste of time... | 00:17 |
| ochosi | agreed | 00:17 |
| knome | because that would have need to be owned by xpl.. | 00:17 |
| knome | and that's not a right signal either ;) | 00:18 |
| ochosi | heh | 00:19 |
| knome | so should xpl just own users directly? | 00:19 |
| knome | it's a technical thing anyway | 00:19 |
| knome | ok, i guess another question | 00:21 |
| knome | does xpl need to be the member in all the teams? | 00:21 |
| knome | i think there was some argument behind that, but... | 00:21 |
| knome | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-project-lead/+participation | 00:21 |
| knome | that looks stupid (the first row) | 00:21 |
| knome | that's just wrong; the fact that the xpl team owns that team should not make it a member of other teams via the teams he owns | 00:22 |
| knome | and; owner should always be able to touch and do everything on the team anyway | 00:22 |
| ochosi | yeah | 00:23 |
| knome | here's the thing: i can't do *that* :) | 00:23 |
| knome | and a more weird thought | 00:24 |
| knome | maybe the xpl team could/should be "Xubuntu community managers" | 00:24 |
| ochosi | xpl team? | 00:24 |
| knome | because the argument that via that, we have access to all teams is vanished if the sole member disappears... | 00:25 |
| knome | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-project-lead | 00:25 |
| knome | that | 00:25 |
| knome | but that's not something to answer now | 00:25 |
| knome | or decide | 00:25 |
| Unit193 | Progress on 1270486, that's good. | 00:25 |
| knome | bug 1270486 | 00:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1270486 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu) "libdbusmenu doesn't use the menu item's label if it has a stock icon" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270486 | 00:25 |
| knome | hmmh | 00:25 |
| knome | aand one more thought: one team where XPL probably *should* be a member in is ~xubuntu-release | 00:26 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, that looks like that one is going to get fixed, since trevinho already wrote a patch and larsu approved | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | So now I'll finally know the difference between 'quit' and 'quit'! | 00:28 |
| ochosi | :D | 00:28 |
| knome | Unit193, isn't that obvious? | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | It is if you use sed on the glade file. | 00:29 |
| knome | ;) | 00:29 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yay, shiny new gmb! | 00:30 |
| ochosi | and it seems that sucky crash when closing it is gone | 00:30 |
| Unit193 | Is it shiny? | 00:30 |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 00:30 |
| ochosi | nah, almost no visible diff, but that fix is good | 00:30 |
| * Unit193 fixed it. :---3 | 00:30 | |
| ochosi | oh well, and equalizer presets | 00:30 |
| ochosi | that is quite awesome | 00:30 |
| ochosi | thanks a bunch, Unit193 | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | Of course. | 00:31 |
| ochosi | i'll start testing it now and report back | 00:32 |
| Unit193 | Prepped it for Debian too, but didn't push into the pkg-multimedia repo. :P | 00:32 |
| ochosi | awesome | 00:33 |
| ochosi | never thought that one would even get close to making it into 15.04 | 00:33 |
| ochosi | but with the regression (close-crash) we have a chance of getting it in i guess | 00:33 |
| Unit193 | (https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/unit193-guest/gmusicbrowser.git) Someone will have to FFe it, of course. And the sooner the better. | 00:43 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, just did some installs of today's image and noticed a couple of minor issues with the slideshow | 00:45 |
| jjfrv8 | for one thing, at least on my laptop, the slides are too big for the window and there are vertical and horizontal scrollbars | 00:46 |
| knome | jjfrv8, again? oh my... | 00:47 |
| jjfrv8 | not sure about again, guess I'm not up to date on the backlog | 00:48 |
| knome | well again in the sense that we've had similar reports before (and not just once) | 00:49 |
| knome | and in most cases, the slideshow has really been just okay | 00:49 |
| knome | i mean, it only appears in some (edge?) cases | 00:49 |
| knome | so it's possible when you install tomorrow, you won't have the bug... | 00:49 |
| knome | but please file a bug for that if you see it again | 00:49 |
| jjfrv8 | okay, I can try an install on my desktop tomorrow, if it's not there, will try the laptop again, too. | 00:50 |
| knome | not like i'm not believing you, but since it's been on and off without being always reproducable... :/ | 00:50 |
| knome | cheers :) | 00:50 |
| jjfrv8 | sure | 00:50 |
| knome | anything else that looks weird there? | 00:50 |
| jjfrv8 | not weird, but a couple of things with the text... | 00:51 |
| elfy | knome: should not logically groups be owned by team and team be owned by xpl | 00:52 |
| jjfrv8 | on the Xubuntu desktop slide, I think there's an extra comma. Should be "single, multipurpose panel"; i.e., no comma between "multipurpose" and "panel" | 00:52 |
| elfy | if there is a need for ownership | 00:52 |
| elfy | even if it is a circle jerk | 00:52 |
| knome | elfy, lol... well, i guess if the team should be able to kick out people from the team and so on | 00:53 |
| elfy | well | 00:53 |
| knome | well i don't know why they would (want to) do that, but... | 00:53 |
| elfy | xpl could wander off | 00:53 |
| knome | but it's a good question | 00:53 |
| elfy | who owns xpl? | 00:53 |
| knome | yes | 00:53 |
| knome | but then again, it's easier to get the LP admins to return us one team that is clearly marked as the xubuntu community leader team | 00:54 |
| elfy | mmm | 00:54 |
| knome | xpl is owned by the sitting xpl | 00:54 |
| elfy | so Xpl owner is xpl | 00:54 |
| knome | yes | 00:54 |
| elfy | yea - catching up | 00:54 |
| knome | i mean, to be exact | 00:54 |
| knome | ~xpl owner is xpl, currently ~ochosi | 00:55 |
| elfy | is there an lpl, kpl, gpl ? | 00:55 |
| knome | probably not | 00:55 |
| elfy | this could really get messy :p | 00:55 |
| knome | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council | 00:55 |
| knome | that's basically same as ~xpl, but with several people | 00:56 |
| knome | which is what i kind of suggested, even if it wasn't a "council" as is | 00:56 |
| elfy | xpl is however xubuntu-team returns - so should be owned by -team :p | 00:56 |
| knome | lol | 00:56 |
| elfy | s/however/whoever | 00:56 |
| knome | then that would technically mean everybody in -team would be able to change every detail in every xubuntu team | 00:57 |
| elfy | yep | 00:57 |
| knome | so i would vote against that :P | 00:57 |
| elfy | and if xpl wanders a useful thing | 00:57 |
| knome | well, | 00:57 |
| knome | that's why i proposed ~xpl should be "xubuntu community managers", which was a group of people who are generally trusted in the community | 00:57 |
| knome | kind of like what the xubuntu council would be, if one would be set up | 00:58 |
| elfy | mmm | 00:58 |
| elfy | yep | 00:58 |
| knome | lubuntu is going small, this is basically their "creme de la creme" team https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev | 00:58 |
| elfy | xpl being xecutive vote on a council | 00:58 |
| elfy | :) | 00:59 |
| knome | well note that i'm not saying we should set up a council... :P | 00:59 |
| elfy | I like the wayt we do stuff | 00:59 |
| knome | just that for the possibility that the XPL suddenly disappears, we would have a backup manager for the LP teams | 00:59 |
| elfy | we can have a council - it'llnot have me on it | 00:59 |
| Unit193 | Oooh! Ooh! Council of elfy and ochosi! | 01:00 |
| knome | but fwiw, i think it's good enough that it's all under one team - doing the paperwork for that is doable | 01:00 |
| elfy | Unit193 cleverly ignores the previous statement :p | 01:00 |
| elfy | I really should just stf up | 01:00 |
| knome | elfy, gnome seems to split their teams, eg. a single person is owning each subteam | 01:01 |
| knome | though they have https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-leaders-board | 01:01 |
| knome | their "users and contributors" team, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome, is owned by the developer team, which is the team that is used to grant *upload permissions* to their packageset | 01:02 |
| knome | which is somewhat weird, since that team is owned by the DMB | 01:03 |
| knome | elfy, ^ there you have some other organizational models... | 01:04 |
| elfy | oh lord | 01:10 |
| elfy | not seriousness ... | 01:10 |
| knome | lol | 01:10 |
| knome | well it was a good excersize | 01:11 |
| knome | er | 01:11 |
| knome | fix the typos in your head... | 01:11 |
| knome | anyway, now i know the way we do it is superior to others :P | 01:11 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, experimented some more with the slideshow and different hardware. It is reproducible but it looks like it's specific to my laptop video adapter. | 13:58 |
| jjfrv8 | if I connect my laptop to an external monitor, I have the slideshow problem. But if I install from my desktop using that same monitor, same resolution - no problem. | 13:59 |
| jjfrv8 | So does that make it an "edge case" and not worthy of a bug report? | 14:00 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, also pushed an MP with some suggested text changes on two slides. | 14:12 |
| jjfrv8 | bbl | 14:12 |
| knome | jjfrv8, you can create a bug; please attach all the information you just said here, so we can try to find other people with the same hardware or so | 17:33 |
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