[00:00] sweet [00:00] in -staging? [00:02] Unless I did something wrong... [00:02] :) [00:02] * ochosi checks [00:08] hmm, no gmb here: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging [00:09] (: [00:10] Oh right, because we like the word 'xubuntu' so much, we repeat it. [00:12] hehe [00:12] good point, but a bit late in the game to change the name of the PPA just for the sake of it [00:12] Take 2. [00:14] ochosi, should ~xubuntu-project-lead own ~xubuntu-bugs ? [00:15] ochosi, and ~xubuntu-users [00:15] hm, good question [00:15] who owns those teams now? [00:15] i think bugs yes, users is a better question [00:15] ~xubuntu-team [00:15] yeah, i'd tend to agree [00:15] users should be "free-er" [00:15] they both have open membership [00:16] yeah, i know, then again ownership might send the wrong signal [00:16] xpl now owns bugs [00:16] then again, i don't know if ppl really notice/care [00:16] the logical argument is that the xpl should "own" all xubuntu teams [00:16] yeah [00:16] if not, then why should? [00:17] there is no ~xubuntu-community [00:17] true that [00:17] which would be sematically nice, but technically so waste of time... [00:17] agreed [00:17] because that would have need to be owned by xpl.. [00:18] and that's not a right signal either ;) [00:19] heh [00:19] so should xpl just own users directly? [00:19] it's a technical thing anyway [00:21] ok, i guess another question [00:21] does xpl need to be the member in all the teams? [00:21] i think there was some argument behind that, but... [00:21] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-project-lead/+participation [00:21] that looks stupid (the first row) [00:22] that's just wrong; the fact that the xpl team owns that team should not make it a member of other teams via the teams he owns [00:22] and; owner should always be able to touch and do everything on the team anyway [00:23] yeah [00:23] here's the thing: i can't do *that* :) [00:24] and a more weird thought [00:24] maybe the xpl team could/should be "Xubuntu community managers" [00:24] xpl team? [00:25] because the argument that via that, we have access to all teams is vanished if the sole member disappears... [00:25] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-project-lead [00:25] that [00:25] but that's not something to answer now [00:25] or decide [00:25] Progress on 1270486, that's good. [00:25] bug 1270486 [00:25] bug 1270486 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu) "libdbusmenu doesn't use the menu item's label if it has a stock icon" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270486 [00:25] hmmh [00:26] aand one more thought: one team where XPL probably *should* be a member in is ~xubuntu-release [00:27] Unit193: yeah, that looks like that one is going to get fixed, since trevinho already wrote a patch and larsu approved [00:28] So now I'll finally know the difference between 'quit' and 'quit'! [00:28] :D [00:29] Unit193, isn't that obvious? [00:29] It is if you use sed on the glade file. [00:29] ;) [00:30] Unit193: yay, shiny new gmb! [00:30] and it seems that sucky crash when closing it is gone [00:30] Is it shiny? [00:30] \o/ [00:30] nah, almost no visible diff, but that fix is good [00:30] * Unit193 fixed it. :---3 [00:30] oh well, and equalizer presets [00:30] that is quite awesome [00:31] thanks a bunch, Unit193 [00:31] Of course. [00:32] i'll start testing it now and report back [00:32] Prepped it for Debian too, but didn't push into the pkg-multimedia repo. :P [00:33] awesome [00:33] never thought that one would even get close to making it into 15.04 [00:33] but with the regression (close-crash) we have a chance of getting it in i guess [00:43] (https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/unit193-guest/gmusicbrowser.git) Someone will have to FFe it, of course. And the sooner the better. [00:45] knome, just did some installs of today's image and noticed a couple of minor issues with the slideshow [00:46] for one thing, at least on my laptop, the slides are too big for the window and there are vertical and horizontal scrollbars [00:47] jjfrv8, again? oh my... [00:48] not sure about again, guess I'm not up to date on the backlog [00:49] well again in the sense that we've had similar reports before (and not just once) [00:49] and in most cases, the slideshow has really been just okay [00:49] i mean, it only appears in some (edge?) cases [00:49] so it's possible when you install tomorrow, you won't have the bug... [00:49] but please file a bug for that if you see it again [00:50] okay, I can try an install on my desktop tomorrow, if it's not there, will try the laptop again, too. [00:50] not like i'm not believing you, but since it's been on and off without being always reproducable... :/ [00:50] cheers :) [00:50] sure [00:50] anything else that looks weird there? [00:51] not weird, but a couple of things with the text... [00:52] knome: should not logically groups be owned by team and team be owned by xpl [00:52] on the Xubuntu desktop slide, I think there's an extra comma. Should be "single, multipurpose panel"; i.e., no comma between "multipurpose" and "panel" [00:52] if there is a need for ownership [00:52] even if it is a circle jerk [00:53] elfy, lol... well, i guess if the team should be able to kick out people from the team and so on [00:53] well [00:53] well i don't know why they would (want to) do that, but... [00:53] xpl could wander off [00:53] but it's a good question [00:53] who owns xpl? [00:53] yes [00:54] but then again, it's easier to get the LP admins to return us one team that is clearly marked as the xubuntu community leader team [00:54] mmm [00:54] xpl is owned by the sitting xpl [00:54] so Xpl owner is xpl [00:54] yes [00:54] yea - catching up [00:54] i mean, to be exact [00:55] ~xpl owner is xpl, currently ~ochosi [00:55] is there an lpl, kpl, gpl ? [00:55] probably not [00:55] this could really get messy :p [00:55] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council [00:56] that's basically same as ~xpl, but with several people [00:56] which is what i kind of suggested, even if it wasn't a "council" as is [00:56] xpl is however xubuntu-team returns - so should be owned by -team :p [00:56] lol [00:56] s/however/whoever [00:57] then that would technically mean everybody in -team would be able to change every detail in every xubuntu team [00:57] yep [00:57] so i would vote against that :P [00:57] and if xpl wanders a useful thing [00:57] well, [00:57] that's why i proposed ~xpl should be "xubuntu community managers", which was a group of people who are generally trusted in the community [00:58] kind of like what the xubuntu council would be, if one would be set up [00:58] mmm [00:58] yep [00:58] lubuntu is going small, this is basically their "creme de la creme" team https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev [00:58] xpl being xecutive vote on a council [00:59] :) [00:59] well note that i'm not saying we should set up a council... :P [00:59] I like the wayt we do stuff [00:59] just that for the possibility that the XPL suddenly disappears, we would have a backup manager for the LP teams [00:59] we can have a council - it'llnot have me on it [01:00] Oooh! Ooh! Council of elfy and ochosi! [01:00] but fwiw, i think it's good enough that it's all under one team - doing the paperwork for that is doable [01:00] Unit193 cleverly ignores the previous statement :p [01:00] I really should just stf up [01:01] elfy, gnome seems to split their teams, eg. a single person is owning each subteam [01:01] though they have https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-leaders-board [01:02] their "users and contributors" team, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome, is owned by the developer team, which is the team that is used to grant *upload permissions* to their packageset [01:03] which is somewhat weird, since that team is owned by the DMB [01:04] elfy, ^ there you have some other organizational models... [01:10] oh lord [01:10] not seriousness ... [01:10] lol [01:11] well it was a good excersize [01:11] er [01:11] fix the typos in your head... [01:11] anyway, now i know the way we do it is superior to others :P [13:58] knome, experimented some more with the slideshow and different hardware. It is reproducible but it looks like it's specific to my laptop video adapter. [13:59] if I connect my laptop to an external monitor, I have the slideshow problem. But if I install from my desktop using that same monitor, same resolution - no problem. [14:00] So does that make it an "edge case" and not worthy of a bug report? [14:12] knome, also pushed an MP with some suggested text changes on two slides. [14:12] bbl [17:33] jjfrv8, you can create a bug; please attach all the information you just said here, so we can try to find other people with the same hardware or so