[01:07] <ahoneybun> something is up with suspanding and locking
[04:39] <ronnoc> Riddell: Your article is getting a lot of comments on The Hacker News :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9237199
[04:53] <valorie> ronnoc: disappointing that most of the comments are about anything but Kubuntu though
[05:10] <ronnoc> valorie: true but there are some good ones in there specifically about Kubuntu as well which is always nice to see :)
[05:12] <valorie> indeed, what was said was almost all good
[09:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:54] <Riddell> hi lordievader 
[09:54] <Riddell> ronnoc: which is why it would be great if you made a kubuntu wire article with highlights from some of the comments :)
[09:55] <lordievader> Hey Riddell, how are you?
[09:57] <Riddell> lordievader: I'm pretty awesome
[09:57] <Riddell> I think once I've had breakfast I'll be very awesome
[09:58] <Riddell> then I'll see if I can tackle these libreoffice icons
[09:59] <lordievader> That's good to hear :)
[10:02] <Riddell> lordievader: how's yourself? have you considered coming to akademy?
[10:55] <lordievader> Riddell: Err, quite busy today. Doing some server upgrades.
[11:42] <hjd> Hi all :) The Kubuntu installer for Vivid seems to show the slideshow at the end untranslated for some reason. The rest of the installer is localized when you pick a language, but it seems like it doesn't have any effect when you get to the slideshow. Fwiw, with an Ubuntu disc image, the slideshow is translated (see bug 1429475 for more info)
[11:43] <Riddell> hjd: hmm interesting
[11:44] <Riddell> maybe there are no translations with the new updates?
[11:44] <Riddell> but there should be at least some, most of the text didn't change
[11:45] <Jiyuhen> Hi folks! Quick question, if I want to compress media files to save up hdd space and such, is rar or the linux tar.gz compression better?
[11:48] <Riddell> Jiyuhen: user questions best in #kubuntu, but most media files are already as compressed as they can be as part of the codec
[11:49] <Jiyuhen> Riddell: Thanks , I keep  that in mind :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <Jiyuhen> BluesKaj: Hey Blues!
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hi Jiyuhen
[12:34] <Jiyuhen> BluesKaj:  How are things today?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> just fine thanks Jiyuhen, How about you ?
[12:35] <Jiyuhen> BluesKaj: Good! Spend some time cleaning my "storage" drive and am now looking into Phyton
[12:35] <Jiyuhen> Python
[12:37] <BluesKaj> ok , not very knowledgable about pytho except the python scripts I found on the TIVO sites for networking the device between pcs and it's hdd
[12:37] <BluesKaj> python that is
[12:42] <BluesKaj> brb
[12:44] <Jiyuhen> kk
[13:20] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Whoo Python :D
[13:21] <Jiyuhen> lordievader: I like the syntax, unlike that of any C type language. Do you program in Phyton ?
[13:22] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: From my reaction ;), yes.
[13:22] <Jiyuhen> lordievader: lol! Sweet surprise! ;-) 
[13:23] <lordievader> Hehe, is it?
[13:23] <Jiyuhen> lordievader: And you are from the netherlands, right?
[13:23] <Jiyuhen> But cool, so when I get stuck, is it ok, to hit you up?
[13:24] <Sho_> If you're coding a KDE app in Python you can also always ask #kde-devel or contact KDE's programming mentoring team
[13:27] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Yes, and sure ;)
[13:27] <lordievader> PyQt ftw \o/
[13:28] <Jiyuhen> Sho_:  Awesome tip, I chop that down for when I am more proficent. ;-)
[13:28] <Sho_> Any level is fine, we all started somewhere~
[13:28] <lordievader> True that
[13:28] <Jiyuhen> lordievader:  Thanks! :)
[13:52] <Jiyuhen> very true indeed :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Am I missing something here? Why can't systemsettings be luanched with root permissions as in previous versions? kdesudo systemsettings in the krunner was always available. What's the problem now ?
[14:06] <Sho_> Why would you need to, though?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> because I need to reset the fonts to be large enough/readable on my TV/monitor in order to edit some conf files etc, and the default toolbar fonts for example are too small to read.
[14:09] <Sho_> It should work if you're actually inside a root session, I guess
[14:09] <yofel> BluesKaj: it's called systemsettings5 now
[14:10] <BluesKaj> thanks yofel
[14:35] <BluesKaj> too bad the fonts set as root don't apply globally , only applies to the font setting inside systemsettings /fonts  :P
[14:36] <Sho_> settings for root apply to root
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Sho_, if it's opened as root it should apply globally to any file opened as root, at least it did in plasma 4
[14:38] <KDDA> in the favourite app menu, is there any way to make it the icons smaller or the area bigger, I want more favourites! 
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Sho_, I mean the settings changed as root in systemsettings5
[14:40] <Sho_> BluesKaj: yeah, root's settings should apply to apps run as root ... unless the QPA plugin prefers the xprops of the running display these days
[14:42] <BluesKaj> another feature i miss and I'm sure others do too is the krunner dropdown that contained previous entries is missing
[14:43] <BluesKaj> xprpops?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> err xprops?
[14:47] <Sho_> tech stuff
[14:48] <Sho_> re krunner history, that's because the UI was rewritten in Qt Quick and the Qt Quick line edit widget doesn't work with the KCompletion framework right now
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[15:38] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[15:38] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: hi
[15:45] <BluesKaj> hey Riddell what or where's the ninja ppa?, can't seem to locate the 15.04 version 
[15:46] <Riddell> BluesKaj: what are you after?
[15:46] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I pinged you for the message I left for you on trello
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I seem to be missing some libs/packages that link to systemsettings driver manager for example 
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Riddell, or am I on the wrong track ?
[15:51] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ninjas doesn't contain anything currently and drive manager isn't put in ninjas
[15:52] <BluesKaj> ok Riddell thanks 
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[15:54]  * BluesKaj wonders what is needed to make system settings work properly
[15:54] <Riddell> BluesKaj: do you have kubuntu-driver-manager installed?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes
[15:55] <ronnoc> Riddell: Heh..fair 'nuff :) I can do that in the AM tomorrow.  And coordinate with mparillo for the time being  for publishing / proofing since I don't have access atm.
[15:56] <ronnoc> mparillo: Speaking of...check this article out. WOuld be good to highligh the 2nd to last paragraph and post on the Wire - Good stuff. http://www.linds.net/archives/74
[15:57] <Riddell> ronnoc: something like http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=196 maybe
[15:57] <Riddell> ronnoc: I can give you access once you have put together something good to publish
[15:57] <ronnoc> OK
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: ping
[16:02] <mparillo> ronnoc: You have that one? One word of warning...if you use the Wire Interface to insert an image by uploading it first, the default URL of that image is the image itself. You can change it, of course.
[16:02] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: hm?
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: is this news http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.5.5 ?
[16:03] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: yes
[16:03] <ovidiu-florin> then why isn't it under /news/ ?
[16:03] <yofel> sounds like a mistake
[16:03] <ovidiu-florin> yeah
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> now I have to write a redirect rule for that
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin>  :(
[16:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you have you manually set the url so it's easy to make that sort of mistake
[16:04] <yofel> sry ^^
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> I know
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> I just wanted to check
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> Wordpress does that automagicaly, and you can change it if you don't like the generated one
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> it points to: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/news/kde-releases-4-5-5/
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> take a look at my current task: https://notes.kde.org/p/Kubuntu-new-site-pages-not-found
[16:06] <ovidiu-florin> make all those work
[16:11] <ronnoc> Riddell: There are good comments on your article all over the place. I'll curate and condense some from several sites to make the article. 
[16:13] <ronnoc> mparillo: Yea I can write both articles in the next day or so. What's your email so that I can send them to you (for now)? I'll send them as formatted HTML articles for now with picture attachments.
[16:15] <Riddell> ronnoc: kubuntu-devel list will do
[16:16] <ronnoc> Got it, will do :)
[16:31] <Riddell> ronnoc, mparillo: oh and if either of you are in proofreader mode https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.2.2.php needs an eye over
[16:31] <Riddell> ronnoc, mparillo: also I've a volunteer to make a video of 15.04 who is asking for CC licenced music and a list of items to highlight
[16:31] <Riddell> so any input on that welcome :)
[16:44] <mparillo> Riddell: One little nit. 
[16:44] <mparillo> Live Images
[16:44] <mparillo> The easiest way to try it out is the with a live image booted off a USB disk. Images are available for development versions of Kubuntu Plasma 5.
[16:46] <mparillo> I think the link goes to the old place where you separated Plasma 5 images from 4. I would simply send them here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[16:46] <Riddell> well spotted
[16:51] <mparillo> TY. Also the link from: Package download wiki page to: (the one I care about) https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu Somebody has been gradually cleaning up that section. But, I think the bit about to move to Vivid beta. Full instructions to upgrade from 14.10. might be obsolete. And I have not tested the newer version of the devel-release-upgrade since Beta 1. I assume we will want to test it sometime next 
[16:51] <mparillo> week?
[16:56] <mparillo> ronnoc: You should be able to reach me at the first address here: https://launchpad.net/~marco-parillo (the second is only because bugs.kde.org publishes your e-mail, and I wanted a throw-away one).
[16:58] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: pong
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> hey
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> care to play around with that script and list again?
[17:00] <mparillo> Riddell: http://welltemperedclavier.org/ Music and license does not get any better than this http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/records-and-sheet-music-of-well-tempered-clavier-to-go-free 
[17:05] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Not today.
[17:05] <lordievader> Busy with other things.
[17:05] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[17:06] <soee> Riddell: what was the package name to get breeze style for gtk2 apps ?
[17:08] <Riddell> soee: apt search orion
[17:15] <soee> Riddell: orion ? is it some new one, im sure that few weeks ago it was sometgin else :)
[17:17] <Riddell> dunno if it's new, it's just the gtk theme I could find that had similar looking scrollbars to breeze
[17:20] <ronnoc> Riddell: re: the announcements - The section under 'Live Images' looks to be fixed-width formatted whereas the rest of the article appears to be left-justified. The only other niggle is that perhaps having both the social media icons and names looks a bit cluttered. I would only use the icons to clean it up.
[17:20] <ronnoc> Otherwise it looks good to me :)
[17:23] <soee> Riddell: ah, im talking about package that adds  QtCurve to thems fro GTK2 in system settings
[17:24] <soee> gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[17:25] <soee> this one i think
[17:50] <Riddell> ronnoc: you could also look for comments on http://jriddell.org/2015/03/18/kubuntu-15-04-heating-up/ I especially like "seriously, this thing is a wok of art." :)
[18:34] <sgclark> cool sddm is functioning for me now
[18:34]  * ahoneybun moved to 14.10
[18:41] <Riddell> sgclark: what changed?
[18:41] <Riddell> ahoneybun: from what?
[18:41] <sgclark> Riddell: not sure really
[18:41] <sgclark> Riddell: oxygen hates me, fixing *again* and then we ready for testers
[18:43] <ahoneybun> Riddell: 15.04
[18:46] <sgclark> oooh I got a contact page request to help someone contribute to kubuntu/kde documentation.
[18:47] <ahoneybun> sgclark: oh?
[18:48] <sgclark> my blog
[18:48] <ahoneybun> oh cool
[18:49] <Riddell> sgclark: bring them in here :)
[18:49] <Riddell> ahoneybun: why's that?
[18:50] <sgclark> Riddell: yep I am :) gave him mine and your nicks, so if you get a ping could be him lol
[19:13] <ahoneybun> Riddell: gaming
[20:44] <soee> sgclark: seems like packages are ready -5.2.2?
[21:03] <sgclark> soee: well oxygen hates me, but the rest yeah
[21:31] <soee> sgclark: but i see it has been build https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages
[21:32] <sgclark> soee: missing file, was in install file.. though so researching
[21:35] <soee> :(
[22:05] <sgclark> soee: fixed, all is ready for testing
[22:05] <sgclark> !testers Plasma5 ready for testing in next-staging
[22:06] <sgclark> blah
[22:07] <mparillo> Is there a test script for dummies? And I assume you mean 5.2.2?
[22:08] <soee> woho :)
[22:08] <soee> sgclark: all packages in next-staging are required ?
[22:11] <sgclark> right 5.2.2
[22:17] <soee> sgclark: upgrading
[22:18] <sgclark> cool thanks
[22:18] <sgclark> I did and so far all looks good
[22:18] <mparillo> Simply apt update apt upgrade -y?
[22:20] <sgclark> mparillo: should do it as long as next-staging is in your sources.list
[22:20] <sgclark> mparillo: actually apt dist-upgrade is better
[22:21] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository next-staging ?
[22:22] <sgclark> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:next-staging I think 
[22:23] <soee> apt full-upgrade
[22:23] <mparillo> softwareproperties.ppa.PPAException: 'Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~next-staging: Not Found'
[22:24] <sitter> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[22:24] <soee> ^
[22:25] <mparillo> For the love of all jellyfish, do not use this PPA
[22:25] <soee> ;]
[22:26] <mparillo> is full-upgrade an upgrade followed by a dist-upgrade?
[22:26] <sgclark> nah just full-upgrade. even better
[22:27] <mparillo> 87 to be upgraded over dinner.
[22:28] <soee> sgclark: i can confirm that all went fine
[22:28] <soee> reboot brb
[22:30] <mparillo> I assume a reboot is required to test 5.2.2?
[22:31] <soee> back :)
[22:31] <soee> ksysguarg dbus bug fixed, that i can confirm :)
[22:31] <soee> *ksysguard
[22:34] <soee> sgclark: again great work
[22:38] <soee> oh muon is broken ...
[22:41] <soee> can someone confirm that menu in mon is broken, we can't configure toolbars etc ?
[22:41] <sgclark> ut oh, broken how?
[22:41] <soee> *in muon
[22:42] <sgclark> soee: not sure what you mean. I don't use muon, apt all the way lol
[22:42] <sgclark> seems functional to me
[22:43] <sgclark> some fonts seem distorted
[22:44] <sgclark> oh clicking toobar settings does nothing
[22:46] <soee> yup
[22:46] <sgclark> soee: is there a bug for that or?
[22:47] <soee> now i checked to hide tobpad how can i bring it back even if it has no conent
[22:47] <soee> sgclark: well in 5.2.1 there was topbar with several options
[22:47] <sgclark> afraid I am not going to be helpful with muon
[22:47] <soee> so fro me it is a bug
[22:57] <soee> ill try to ask Riddell about it tomorrow
[23:09] <mparillo> kinfocenter reports 5.2.2
[23:09] <mparillo> re-booting.
[23:20] <mparillo> sitter: sgclark: soee: Thanks for all your help. Re-booted, still at 5.2.2, and the jellyfish in kinfocenter, rekonq, dolphin, and (obviously) konversation are unharmed.
[23:21] <sgclark> nice :)
[23:23] <sitter> sgclark++
[23:26] <mparillo> Should the Guest Login be available in the default config? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345404