[00:02] <penguin42> hmm, my apache segfaulted a few times during a security upgrade; fine before and seems fine after - I guess something screwy in the way the upgrade was done
[01:36] <zmoylan-pi> glitches during security updates poke your paranoia a smidge
[01:38] <penguin42> yeh
[01:41] <zmoylan-pi> and leave a lingering doubt that never quite fades
[06:01] <mapp> hi;]
[06:13] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[06:52] <mapp> sleepy time for me
[06:52] <mapp> ;D
[10:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:59] <SuperEngineer> "Use of this channel implies acceptance of the terms at..." [still can't see which are the term times & which are the school holiday times]
[12:07]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the pea shooter and pelts SuperEngineer to make it clear
[12:08] <SuperEngineer> :)
[12:12]  * SuperEngineer throws stale buns at zmoylan-pi - bun fight stylie
[12:12]  * zmoylan-pi knots together rubber bands to make a finger catapult and folds paper to make ammunition...
[12:13]  * SuperEngineer chews paper, gets straws... aims
[12:14]  * zmoylan-pi puts a dozen thumbtacks in sheet of paper and slides it under SuperEngineer when they sit down
[12:15]  * SuperEngineer saws through 3 out of 4 zmoylan-pi chair legs 
[12:17]  * zmoylan-pi opens cartridge pen and pours ink in pool on SuperEngineer's seat to earn them the name smurfbottom for rest of term after next p.e. class
[12:18]  * SuperEngineer connects zmoylan-pi's bunsen burner's gas pipe to mains water feed!
[12:19] <SuperEngineer> [...& yes - I actually *did* swap the whole phsics labs pipes once!
[12:20]  * zmoylan-pi sets up SuperEngineer's bunsen burner to cook toast and notifies teacher...
[12:21]  * SuperEngineer sulks - darn teachers' pets!
[12:21]  * zmoylan-pi nibbles on toast i made earlier...
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> we got kicked out of the lab for making toast on bunsen burners.  some health and safety violation i think
[12:24] <zmoylan-pi> this was after we were kicked out of the lab for using foot long mercury thermometers as light sabres
[12:24] <SuperEngineer> when I "re-routed the gas/water pipes the physics master had to leave the room [laughing] - he had previously told me he had done this himself... did we laugh!  [my punishment - to reconnect the pipes the correct way round befoire anybody worked out what had happened!]
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> science was much more fun before health and safety got involved... :-D
[12:25] <SuperEngineer> nmmm.. mercury; ever made a mercury motor?
[12:26] <zmoylan-pi> no
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> ever then stepped up the voltage to 480????  ever since a room evacuated at double speed?
[12:26] <zmoylan-pi> they wouldn't let us do experiments with electricity.  i think they knew us too well
[12:27] <SuperEngineer> [and you see all this stuff on tv trying to convince kids that science is fun... dunno what they mean!]
[12:28] <zmoylan-pi> we studied a lot of gravity by throwing people off fire escape.  i wonder now how we managed to not injure anyone to require a plaster cast
[12:29] <SuperEngineer> oooh - now that's one I did miss out on
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> i highly recommend people *don't* try this one at home.  these days it'll all end in lawyers :-(
[12:29]  * SuperEngineer starts writing letter: "Dear old school, any chance I could come back for a few days...
[12:30] <penguin42> were the people being thrown off willin subjects?
[12:30] <penguin42> g
[12:30] <SuperEngineer> I missed out on an "experiment" ;)
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> if they were willing it would go against the spirtit of the game of course
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> there had to be a risk of been thrown off while trying to throw someone else off to make it a sport
[12:31] <SuperEngineer> iof they were willing... it just means they were budding parachutists! - though they were probably also forgetful, no parachute!
[12:33] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi, you *do* realise that we are now both being marked out as a couple of evil idiots, don't you?
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> *or* evil geniuses! ;-)
[12:34] <SuperEngineer> confession... idiot yes, evil no!  genius: definitely!
[12:34] <zmoylan-pi> i went to a notorious school.
[12:35] <SuperEngineer> what's a notorious school... is it where you go if are already notorious or where you go to learn how?
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> when we were in a league with other schools for various sports they had to double the number of ambulances when we played
[12:35] <SuperEngineer> you shouldn't play against ambulances... they are big and rather hard when yoiu knock into them!
[12:36] <zmoylan-pi> on my last day of school as i left for the last time i was oddly proud to watch gardai walk in to arrest a first year for breaking jcb window
[12:37]  * SuperEngineer renames channel ubuntu-school-confeessions !
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> the driver in it at the time was upset for some reason...
[12:37] <SuperEngineer> lol
[12:38] <SuperEngineer> on my last day at day at school I found out the head master had a particular dislike of people ploughing a cricket pitch roller right through the 6th form hut!
[12:38] <penguin42> who would have guessed
[12:39] <SuperEngineer> :)
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> we got a lot of detention after a letter for precare instructions for a vascetomy was put on notice board with principals name.  totally worth it...
[12:40] <SuperEngineer> zm
[12:41] <SuperEngineer> whoops!
[12:41] <zmoylan-pi> pretty difficult in mid 80s without a printer and nicely photocopied on header from real clinic
[12:44] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi, I would mention my piece de resistance, but this is a family channel [suffice to say it may just possibly have me, my motor bike, the head master's gown, a set of false over-bite teeth, a perfect impersonation, a 6th form concert which all teachers rolling on floor laughing & a slight request from head master to visit his office immediately after}
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> ours was putting a nail in teachers stool. it was very carefully thought out.  shortest teacher and tallest stool.  no way they could accidently sit on it. held in with sellotape so if in 1 in million chance they did it would fall out
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> the teach took his stool out from under desk and just looked at 8" nail sticking out of it for about 2-3 minutes...
[12:49] <zmoylan-pi> then looked at us and said in a way that made him very cool. 'i'm not sure which is worse, that you put this in my stool or thought i would be stupid enough to sit on it' :-P
[12:49] <SuperEngineer> The most amazing, gratifying and proof-my-time-was-well-spentest thing...
[12:50] <SuperEngineer> ...all that - and I was still welcomed back to do a photo-shot for them, then a light show for the school band, then a reunion - & only one dissenter amongst all the staff - bet you can't guess who rthat was ;)
[12:50] <SuperEngineer> hashtag end-of-confession
[12:52] <SuperEngineer> p.s. an 8" nail??? doesn't that border on overkill [literally]
[12:52] <penguin42> wth do you even get an 8" nail
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> it had to be so big there was no chance they could sit on it combined with leaving the thought in the teachers head the little sods want me dead...
[12:53]  * zmoylan-pi whistles nonchantly
[12:57]  * SuperEngineer phones police [twice: once for you, once for me]  ;)
[12:57] <zmoylan-pi> we did a bad thing?
[12:58] <SuperEngineer> ermmmm... yup
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> i should have gotten permission before i nicked the nail?
[12:58] <SuperEngineer> yeah, that!
[12:59]  * zmoylan-pi decides to not reveal any of the bad things we did so
[13:01] <SuperEngineer> [but the things I did were never bad, honest guv! - in fact they were superb]
[13:02] <zmoylan-pi> our rule was no one should be physically hurt (ie. requiring hospital) after that it was fair game
[13:08] <foobarry> uihuhui
[13:09] <foobarry> woops
[13:11] <foobarry> my hp microserver seems to fail to boot a lot
[13:12] <foobarry> ureadahead failed with status 5
[13:12] <foobarry> then shows disks gettingmounted
[13:12] <foobarry> then nothing
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> try booting off usb drive to see if it's just the boot drive?
[13:17] <foobarry> sometimes it works
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> but if you try it with usb drive does it always work?
[13:17] <foobarry> i would expect so
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> ie. is the current drive on last spindle
[13:17] <popey> morning
[13:17] <foobarry> its a raid setup
[13:17] <popey> oh, afternoon
[13:18] <zmoylan-pi> ah yes you said.  sorry, coffee still below optimal
[13:18] <foobarry> o/
[13:22] <foobarry> hmm booted now. gonna run dist-upgrade
[14:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[14:17] <popey> yo
[14:20] <nigelb> evenin'
[14:24] <bigcalm> k[-p****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
[14:24] <popey> hello cat
[14:24] <penguin42> hehe
[14:25] <bigcalm> I really wish it were
[14:25] <bigcalm> Just me dismantling some hardware with cables flopping about
[14:55] <bigcalm> Wife and I have just had ice-creams from an ice-cream van. Oh to live in suburbia in the spring time
[14:56]  * penguin42 is currently considering buying an icecream machine; I've been considering it for a while and It's getting more tempting by the day
[14:58] <zmoylan-pi> summer is coming...
[14:58] <zmoylan-pi> or what passes for summer in these parts :-)
[15:00] <penguin42> nod
[15:14] <bigcalm> Fixed my glasses with blutac. Not sure how I really feel about this as I know it's not a long term fix
[15:15] <penguin42> is that as long term in minutes hours or days or just an inconvenient time when they mustnt fail?
[15:16] <bigcalm> I'm missing a screw from one of the nose pads. So it'll if I don't take these glasses out of this office. I think
[15:17] <penguin42> oh, not as bad as losing a screw out of the arm/bit that holds the lens
[15:17] <bigcalm> Yeah
[15:21] <popey> anyone with good eyes about?
[15:21] <popey> http://imgur.com/0JxQihw,0tliuXs,lb8Jts6
[15:21] <popey> two of those LEDs are apparently wide angle
[15:21] <popey> two are narrow
[15:22] <popey> the wide angle ones are lighter blue, the others are grey, but I can't tell the difference
[15:22] <bigcalm> popey: quickest way to find out is to stick them in some breadboard with a resistor and a batter
[15:22] <bigcalm> y
[15:22] <popey> thats a way better idea
[15:24]  * popey wanders off again
[15:26] <foobarry> put them under UVlight?
[16:07] <MrI> i have screen artifacts
[22:42] <ali1234> today i've been experimenting with laser transfer PCBs
[22:43] <ali1234> inkjet paper sucks, press n peel sucks
[22:43] <ali1234> but i had good results with PVA film
[22:43] <ali1234> only probably is it deforms in the printer cos it has a melting point 230 C and a laser printer is like 210 C
[22:44] <ali1234> it gave by far the best results though, and in the shortest amount of time
[23:02] <zmoylan-pi> a zx thermal printer! \o/ :-)
[23:05] <shauno> I just order boards from china.  kinda blows for turnaround time, but they've been spot on so far
[23:08] <ali1234> who did you use?
[23:09] <shauno> seeed's one .. the name escapes me right now
[23:09] <ali1234> seeed have good prices but then it's like $50 for delivery
[23:10] <shauno> yeah, you have to be able to bundle a few for it to pay off
[23:10] <shauno> but I still haven't paid for Eagle, so I tend to end up stacking a few boards because the free version won't let me make them bigger
[23:11] <shauno> probably false economy, but it works for me.  and localizes screwups to a single board
[23:14] <shauno> I've been slowly building up a radio, but constantly discovering that I know jack squat.  so keeping it this modular has made it much easier to try different things
[23:20] <shauno> mostly though, I'm just lazy.  we used UV masks at school.  freaking messy.  china makes it as easy as ordering pizza
[23:38]  * m0nkey_ is not a happy bunny
[23:39] <m0nkey_> that's the third time Xorg has hung on me