| inetpro | Maaz: tell Kilos power restored just now | 04:44 |
|---|---|---|
| Maaz | inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 04:44 |
| Kilos | morning nlsthzn and others | 05:12 |
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos | 05:21 |
| Kilos | i wonder if inetpro has had power restored yet | 05:25 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 05:26 |
| nlsthzn | maaz was supposed to tell you | 05:26 |
| nlsthzn | @08:44 | 05:26 |
| Kilos | <Maaz> By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell Kilos power restored just now" 27 minutes and 28 seconds ago | 05:29 |
| Kilos | i missed the second one. easier to just read first line | 05:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:29 |
| Kilos | now i just wait for a mail from the cc okes nlsthzn | 05:31 |
| Kilos | no meeting to attend | 05:31 |
| nlsthzn | ah so your nomination is in then :) | 05:31 |
| nlsthzn | good luck :D | 05:31 |
| Kilos | ya ty | 05:31 |
| Kilos | and elacheche from my africa channel | 05:32 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 05:33 |
| nlsthzn | been an OK week-end for SA rugby too | 05:34 |
| nlsthzn | only the cheetahs not winning | 05:34 |
| nlsthzn | *yawn* | 05:34 |
| Kilos | lol ya apart from the bulls | 05:34 |
| nlsthzn | bulls won at least :) | 05:35 |
| Kilos | oh did the bulls win | 05:35 |
| nlsthzn | didn't play well | 05:35 |
| nlsthzn | 1 point | 05:35 |
| Kilos | wow i watched the game and forgot | 05:35 |
| nlsthzn | >.< | 05:35 |
| nlsthzn | I guess it happens with age :p | 05:35 |
| Kilos | just know the sharks game was shocking | 05:35 |
| Kilos | but nice to see a rev taking note of how they cheat | 05:36 |
| Kilos | ref | 05:36 |
| nlsthzn | about time | 05:36 |
| Kilos | its a big thing with them to play guys off the ball to prevent them getting in the fray | 05:37 |
| nlsthzn | they been doing that for ages | 05:37 |
| Kilos | ya | 05:37 |
| * nlsthzn hears the little bundle of wind stir again... poor thing having a tough time of it the last week | 05:37 | |
| Kilos | i think the tmo must be given the power to blow the whistle as well | 05:38 |
| nlsthzn | put his flag out | 05:38 |
| Kilos | ya | 05:38 |
| Kilos | remark on you comment | 05:39 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn hears the little bundle of wind stir again... poor thing having a tough time of it the last week | 05:39 |
| Kilos | oh shame | 05:39 |
| nlsthzn | kept mom awake which is why I am not at a work thing today... keeping him in the front of the house with me while mom sleeps... | 05:40 |
| nlsthzn | so far having a better than average snooze so I am glad | 05:40 |
| Kilos | shame, whats wrong | 05:40 |
| nlsthzn | my wife can take a lot... had a c section that people didn't believe she had as she was up and about... but mess with her sleep >.< oh boy :p | 05:41 |
| nlsthzn | winds and cramps | 05:41 |
| nlsthzn | keeps him awake, gets over stimulated and then can't sleep more | 05:41 |
| nlsthzn | vicious cycle | 05:41 |
| Kilos | ai! | 05:41 |
| Kilos | old name popped up in head merbentyl | 05:42 |
| Kilos | wasnt that for winds and cramps | 05:42 |
| Kilos | and we found with ian , putting him on tummy to sleep let winds come out easy | 05:44 |
| nlsthzn | trying anything so thanks ;) | 05:46 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 05:46 |
| Kilos | good luck, we had 3 months where one had to stay awake and watch, because if he squeeled once he stopped breathing | 05:47 |
| Kilos | he got more bum whacks in his first 6 months that most get it a lifetime | 05:48 |
| nlsthzn | :( | 05:52 |
| nlsthzn | alls well that ends well | 05:52 |
| Kilos | yeah | 05:52 |
| Kilos | took 3 months in incubator and 3 months by us for his lungs to develope to the stage where we got some sleep | 05:53 |
| Kilos | haha and now he is balder than me already | 05:54 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 05:55 |
| Kilos | hi spinza you flooding freenode again hehe | 06:26 |
| Kilos | something to do with your clients login methinks | 06:27 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn why are list peeps so hard to get to meetings? | 06:31 |
| nlsthzn | not everyone sees the need for the meetings... most people use the loco as a source of free tech support... they don't want to assist etc... | 07:09 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:11 |
| Kilos | now this new wiki page has taken over on google so i cant find the old list of members on launchpad | 07:13 |
| Kilos | was 73 i think | 07:13 |
| nlsthzn | this one? - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za | 07:18 |
| nlsthzn | 83 currently | 07:18 |
| Kilos | ya thats it ty nlsthzn | 07:19 |
| nlsthzn | googled "ubuntu-za launchpad" was the 4th link | 07:19 |
| Kilos | hi JoTraGo | 07:20 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 07:20 |
| Kilos | man nlsthzn you know google isnt my friend | 07:20 |
| Kilos | i ask the wrong questions | 07:20 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:24 |
| Kilos | i think ive bitten off more than i can chew | 07:34 |
| Kilos | i need the pro to come back from church | 07:35 |
| nlsthzn | the way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time | 07:38 |
| Kilos | hahaha always a clever answer | 07:40 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn have you got time to write a quick tutorial on how to get a launchpad id and join ubuntu-za | 07:43 |
| Kilos | oh joining is from the site hey | 07:43 |
| Kilos | spinza ping | 07:44 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn for noobs that know nothing | 07:45 |
| Kilos | hi SDCDev | 08:03 |
| nlsthzn | sorry uncle Kilos ... will look into something later... currently I need to get a shower and become human to run some errands and get back on nappy duty etc :p | 08:19 |
| Kilos | lol np | 08:21 |
| Kilos | so is there a was to subscribe or whatever its called so i can be mailed when new members join here | 09:03 |
| Kilos | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za | 09:03 |
| Kilos | s/was/way | 09:03 |
| Kilos | hi hexdream | 09:24 |
| hexdream | Hi Kilos | 09:24 |
| Kilos | this is better than email imo | 09:24 |
| hexdream | Thanks for the reminder to join up with ubuntu-za | 09:25 |
| Kilos | we need all you lug guys here | 09:25 |
| hexdream | much faster | 09:25 |
| hexdream | yeah | 09:25 |
| hexdream | So things are pretty quiet today? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | remind wwk about the meet here on tueday night at 20.00 please | 09:26 |
| Kilos | yeah peeps are at church | 09:26 |
| Kilos | we are never as busy as #ubuntu | 09:26 |
| Kilos | i get lost there | 09:27 |
| Kilos | oh ya and kick vincent as well, he has been scarce here | 09:27 |
| hexdream | Things have been very quiet here LUG-wise. | 09:30 |
| Kilos | peeps are too busy trying to make a living | 09:30 |
| Kilos | we are always active with something or other here | 09:31 |
| hexdream | yeah. I just got myself a midi keyboard... going to try teach myself how to use it... of course that m3eans le3arning the audio applications, and jack. | 09:32 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:32 |
| hexdream | clearly I'm a sucker for punishment | 09:32 |
| hexdream | and looking at my typing I think I need some coffee | 09:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:35 |
| hexdream | brb | 09:35 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:35 |
| Kilos | hi Jacques_StrY | 09:36 |
| Jacques_StrY | Hi | 09:36 |
| nlsthzn | nice to see the some interaction with the LUG's :D | 09:47 |
| Kilos | ya | 09:52 |
| Kilos | i want to get them all involved | 09:52 |
| Kilos | we all have the same basic goal imo | 09:53 |
| hexdream | World domination! | 09:54 |
| Kilos | lol kinda | 09:54 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 09:54 |
| captine | hi there Kilos | 09:54 |
| Kilos | hexdream we arent a channel tied to our topic. we try help with everything here | 10:07 |
| hexdream | Does anyone here have any experience with jack? I'm thinking of setting up my system to run only through jack to keep apps like vlc from breaking while I muck around with various other audio apps. | 10:08 |
| nlsthzn | I messed with it a little bit some time ago but stopped... | 10:11 |
| nlsthzn | to much of a pita | 10:11 |
| Jacques_StrY | why is setting up a vlan connection in ubuntu such a pain... | 10:12 |
| Jacques_StrY | been trying to get it to work for 2hours+ with no luck | 10:12 |
| Kilos | just now freenode is going to ban spinza | 10:14 |
| Jacques_StrY | Anyone here have experience with vlan setup on ubuntu? | 10:16 |
| Kilos | there was someone did it a while ago | 10:17 |
| Kilos | wait for pro to return and tell him fixit | 10:18 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha well i'll keep trying will he's available | 10:19 |
| Jacques_StrY | not* | 10:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:19 |
| Kilos | he will most likely first tell you man this or that, then rtfs in caps and then he will help you | 10:23 |
| Kilos | stubborn old goat | 10:24 |
| Jacques_StrY | yea :) | 10:24 |
| Kilos | and when he sees what i have said he will login with an ai! | 10:25 |
| Kilos | id be lost without my pro | 10:25 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha | 10:25 |
| Jacques_StrY | i think it could be that my virtualbox is interfering | 10:27 |
| Kilos | oh you running that as well | 10:27 |
| Jacques_StrY | gonna try on another pc | 10:27 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY once you got it working write a nice easy how to for us and post the link on trello please | 10:35 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha will do | 10:36 |
| Jacques_StrY | tried it on another pc but still no success | 11:12 |
| Jacques_StrY | vlan interface shows correctly in ifconfig but I can't ping out to vlan network | 11:12 |
| Jacques_StrY | can't ping vlan from another pc ass well | 11:13 |
| Jacques_StrY | as* | 11:13 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 11:27 |
| Kilos | you not doing rtfs | 11:27 |
| Kilos | vlan is a virtual lan right | 11:28 |
| Kilos | oh ethewrnet too | 11:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:34 |
| Kilos | just when i thought v was for virtual | 11:35 |
| Jacques_StrY | nah vlan is virtual lan | 12:49 |
| Jacques_StrY | so you can connect to two seperate networks on one NIC | 12:49 |
| Kilos | same as virualbox | 12:49 |
| Jacques_StrY | in a way cause virtualbox can create vpn's for the guest operating systems | 12:50 |
| Kilos | this whole virtual think tips my head | 12:50 |
| Jacques_StrY | that's why I thought it might be interfering but on another system it didn't want to work too | 12:50 |
| Kilos | eish | 12:52 |
| Kilos | call mr fixit. you are missing something simple | 12:52 |
| Jacques_StrY | i have used it allot on windows systems but this my first time setting up on linux so I'm probably doing something wrong | 12:53 |
| Kilos | ya small thing you are missing im sure | 12:56 |
| Kilos | did you google? | 12:58 |
| Kilos | pro will say google is your friend | 12:58 |
| Kilos | http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html | 12:58 |
| Kilos | oh thats eth | 12:59 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:59 |
| Jacques_StrY | lol i've been googling the whole time | 13:10 |
| Jacques_StrY | still am | 13:10 |
| Kilos | its a stupid thing i think | 13:10 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn tell him man | 13:10 |
| stickyboy | Raise your hand if you like the Universe. | 13:35 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: ? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | hi8 stickyboy | 13:37 |
| Kilos | hi too | 13:37 |
| Kilos | help Jacques_StrY setup a vlan please | 13:37 |
| smile | hi :) | 13:39 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 13:39 |
| smile | hi Kilos | 13:40 |
| smile | especially for you ;) | 13:40 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 13:40 |
| smile | I was translating a website to Afrikaans | 13:42 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Working on server... and reading this about the Eagle Nebula: https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-most-amazing-hubble-image-ever-f9e7604fe106 | 13:46 |
| stickyboy | LOL Kenyans always say "Africans" instead of "Afrikaans". | 13:47 |
| stickyboy | Ok, not always. But I've heard it a few times and I chuckle. | 13:47 |
| Kilos | here afrikaans is the language | 13:47 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Yes. :) | 13:48 |
| Kilos | african is the peeps that live in africa | 13:48 |
| Kilos | wbb | 13:48 |
| stickyboy | But its similarity is obviously confusing. :P | 13:48 |
| stickyboy | ... because it's kinda similar to the name of the continent. :P | 13:48 |
| smile | stickyboy: you still chuckle? :p | 13:49 |
| stickyboy | Yes, because I know the difference and I hear people talk about it who mix the two. | 13:50 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:50 |
| Kilos | help them | 13:50 |
| Kilos | stickyboy i asked you for a favour man | 13:52 |
| Kilos | help Jacques_StrY he is having probs setting up vlan on linux | 13:52 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Oh hehe. | 13:55 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY state what you have done and tried | 13:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:56 |
| stickyboy | Uh, never done that. | 13:56 |
| Kilos | sigh | 13:56 |
| Kilos | you lug okes are supposed to know everything | 13:56 |
| Kilos | maybe you better join an ubuntu group somewhere for more knowledge | 13:57 |
| * Kilos hides | 13:57 | |
| stickyboy | :P | 14:01 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: To be honest, I think I'm burned out. | 14:01 |
| Kilos | oh my | 14:02 |
| Kilos | time for leave | 14:02 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: I think I need a sabbatical. | 14:02 |
| stickyboy | Or maybe a Ferrari. | 14:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:03 |
| Kilos | ferraris are good ya, you can escape anything | 14:03 |
| stickyboy | lol | 14:04 |
| stickyboy | Going to the US next week. | 14:04 |
| stickyboy | But will only be slightly relaxing. | 14:04 |
| Kilos | work or play? | 14:04 |
| smile | stickyboy: no tesla for you? :p | 14:05 |
| stickyboy | smile: Actually, that's better. | 14:07 |
| Kilos | stickyboy for how long are you going? | 14:10 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: 2 weeks. | 14:11 |
| smile | :) | 14:11 |
| Kilos | ah well enjoy what you can and persevere through the rest | 14:11 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Mos def. | 14:12 |
| stickyboy | Gotta eat a bunch of Mexican food. | 14:12 |
| Kilos | lekker man | 14:12 |
| Kilos | they make good food | 14:12 |
| stickyboy | haha yeah | 14:14 |
| stickyboy | http://www.privacyfoundation.ch/de/service/server.html | 14:15 |
| stickyboy | Swiss Privacy DNS servers.. | 14:15 |
| stickyboy | Stop using 8.8.8.8, people. :P | 14:15 |
| Kilos | do you understand what they say in that link? | 14:19 |
| Kilos | ah found the english button | 14:21 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: I only copy the numbers aahahah | 14:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:23 |
| Kilos | always read the fine print | 14:23 |
| Kilos | thats normally where the catches lie | 14:24 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: So much wisdom | 14:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:25 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 14:26 |
| Jacques_StrY | Sorry was out for a bit | 15:04 |
| Kilos | we noticed haha | 15:06 |
| Jacques_StrY | >.< | 15:06 |
| Jacques_StrY | those servers pull some serious bandwidth | 15:06 |
| Kilos | im still looking for someone to help you | 15:06 |
| Kilos | hey smile | 15:06 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY needs help with vlan setup | 15:07 |
| smile | hi :p I'm no vlan guy, sorry | 15:07 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha | 15:07 |
| Jacques_StrY | np i'm not in a hurry with the vlan setup | 15:07 |
| Kilos | sigh | 15:07 |
| Jacques_StrY | it's for at home | 15:08 |
| Jacques_StrY | so no rush | 15:08 |
| Kilos | someone here knows, and we will dig him out sooner or later | 15:08 |
| smile | Jacques_StrY: a VLAN at home? :o | 15:08 |
| Jacques_StrY | lol testing out the setup at home to implement later at work | 15:09 |
| Kilos | so then its important man | 15:09 |
| Jacques_StrY | smile: and my setup at home is pretty overkill | 15:09 |
| Kilos | explain in noob language what you are doing | 15:09 |
| Kilos | i bash my way through stuff | 15:10 |
| Kilos | then cry and someone feels sorry for me and helps | 15:10 |
| smile | Jacques_StrY: maybe you wanted the porn separated ;) | 15:10 |
| Jacques_StrY | smile: That was supposed to be a secret! | 15:10 |
| smile | sorry o.O | 15:11 |
| Jacques_StrY | >.< | 15:11 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha | 15:11 |
| Jacques_StrY | So I setup a IPFire router that handles the internet for a portion of the network | 15:11 |
| Kilos | smile meeting here tuesday night hey | 15:12 |
| smile | Kilos: okay! :D what time? | 15:12 |
| Kilos | 20.00 our time | 15:12 |
| Jacques_StrY | That way I have good QOS and can easily switch between internet lines if main internet drops | 15:12 |
| smile | good plan, yes :p | 15:12 |
| smile | you use multiple ISPs? | 15:12 |
| Jacques_StrY | smile: Well if adsl drops in total I can then switch to wireless | 15:13 |
| smile | :) | 15:14 |
| smile | I have VDSL :D | 15:14 |
| * Jacques_StrY cries | 15:14 | |
| Jacques_StrY | we can't get anything faster than 4mb here | 15:15 |
| smile | Jacques_StrY: no 4G yet? | 15:15 |
| Jacques_StrY | We have but I push too much bandwidth to go permanent 4g | 15:16 |
| smile | I see | 15:16 |
| smile | what about multiple ISP connections? | 15:17 |
| Jacques_StrY | the problem is our dsl goes of regularly at home | 15:17 |
| Jacques_StrY | bout once every 3-4 months and usually almost a week | 15:18 |
| smile | satellite internet! :D | 15:18 |
| smile | :o | 15:18 |
| smile | here every year two times | 15:18 |
| Jacques_StrY | for some reason lighting loves our exchange etc.. | 15:18 |
| smile | usually a few days | 15:18 |
| smile | internet exchange? which one do you use? | 15:19 |
| Jacques_StrY | i'm confused, dsl area exchange | 15:19 |
| Jacques_StrY | I'm with Afrihost as ISP but they have been super stable | 15:21 |
| Jacques_StrY | but I need to use vlan on my file servers cause they have to be accessible on both networks and that's where the problem is | 15:23 |
| Jacques_StrY | smile: You guys so lucky with VDSL :) | 15:23 |
| smile | Jacques_StrY: fiber is coming to the city near me | 15:24 |
| smile | ;) | 15:24 |
| * Jacques_StrY cries again... | 15:26 | |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY im just guessing | 15:26 |
| Kilos | have you run traceroute and tracepath | 15:26 |
| Kilos | and the other on was route -n i think | 15:26 |
| Kilos | if they on they same network they must be accessible somehow | 15:27 |
| Jacques_StrY | Well route -n displays the main network and the vlan as expected | 15:27 |
| Kilos | and you can ssh into the servers? | 15:28 |
| Kilos | oh no if you cant ping them you wont | 15:29 |
| Jacques_StrY | i'm currently logging in via ssh on main network but no luck on vlan | 15:29 |
| Kilos | there must be a way | 15:30 |
| Jacques_StrY | Probably something small and obvious I'm missing | 15:30 |
| Kilos | wait for fly and pro | 15:30 |
| Kilos | can you see their ip addys | 15:31 |
| Jacques_StrY | network only main IP - vlan not responding | 15:32 |
| Kilos | unplug and replug | 15:32 |
| Jacques_StrY | But I can ping own vlan IP from self >.< | 15:32 |
| Jacques_StrY | So vlan supposed to be on | 15:33 |
| smile | Jacques_StrY: it's some years, but it's coming :) | 15:36 |
| smile | professional, big companies already have it | 15:36 |
| Jacques_StrY | Oh well, RTB will get it someday... | 15:37 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY guessing again | 15:44 |
| Kilos | isnt your firewall blocking them | 15:44 |
| Kilos | or router firewall | 15:44 |
| smile | is RTB Roatan? :) | 15:44 |
| Kilos | rustenburg | 15:45 |
| Jacques_StrY | >.< | 15:45 |
| Kilos | same place ian stays | 15:45 |
| Jacques_StrY | well could maybe be ubuntu firewall | 15:45 |
| Jacques_StrY | i'll check | 15:45 |
| captine | Jacques_StrY, ADSL going down sucks. I have been fortunate... very little down time | 15:58 |
| Jacques_StrY | we we of for a few days bout 2 weeks back - tree fell on telephone lines - getting used to it :) | 16:00 |
| Kilos | wb nlsthzn | 16:02 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY did you try running route -n from the servers | 16:02 |
| Kilos | and other commands | 16:03 |
| Jacques_StrY | well ifconfig and route -n both show the interface correctly | 16:04 |
| Jacques_StrY | Well something is wrong vlan interface shows packets sent but none recieved | 16:05 |
| Kilos | inetpro ? | 16:06 |
| stickyboy | Fixed OCSP stapling on my blawggggg. | 16:07 |
| stickyboy | https://mjanja.ch/ | 16:07 |
| stickyboy | Now your browsing should be milliseconds less. Yay? https://mjanja.ch/ | 16:07 |
| Jacques_StrY | Nice - didn't even know about OCSP stapling >.< | 16:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:09 |
| Kilos | i still don | 16:09 |
| Kilos | t | 16:09 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 16:10 |
| Kilos | the guys that know will hide tonight Jacques_StrY | 16:13 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: That's super deep, d00d. | 16:14 |
| Kilos | haha | 16:14 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha | 16:14 |
| stickyboy | OCSP stapling has to do with how a client determines the server's HTTPS certificate is valid. :D | 16:17 |
| stickyboy | I can't get over how beautiful this article is... https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-most-amazing-hubble-image-ever-f9e7604fe106 | 16:18 |
| Jacques_StrY | that looks ridiculous | 16:23 |
| captine | i really dislike juniper networks vpn through IS. What a pain to get working on 64bit ubuntu | 16:35 |
| Jacques_StrY | AND IT IS WORKING! | 16:38 |
| Jacques_StrY | sorry for caps | 16:38 |
| Kilos | oh wow what did you do Jacques_StrY | 16:38 |
| Jacques_StrY | it would seems that i was using the wrong term for what I was trying to do | 16:39 |
| Kilos | write it all down | 16:39 |
| Kilos | ai! you bad as me | 16:40 |
| Jacques_StrY | in fact I don't want vlan but IP aliasing | 16:40 |
| Jacques_StrY | with vlan you need network switch support, which I don't have | 16:40 |
| Jacques_StrY | and the only difference between them in /etc/network/interfaces | 16:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 16:42 |
| Kilos | well glad you found it | 16:42 |
| Jacques_StrY | is vlan you use ex. eth1.0 and ip aliasing eth1:0 | 16:42 |
| Jacques_StrY | just had to replace the "." with ":" | 16:42 |
| Kilos | well done | 16:42 |
| Jacques_StrY | >.< well I learned allot with all the google searched so wasn't that bad | 16:43 |
| Jacques_StrY | TY | 16:43 |
| Kilos | now the lurkers can show their faces | 16:45 |
| Jacques_StrY | haha | 16:45 |
| Kilos | Jacques_StrY write it down | 16:45 |
| Jacques_StrY | did thanks :) | 16:45 |
| Kilos | see, that was a tiny thing | 16:46 |
| Jacques_StrY | Yep | 16:46 |
| Kilos | linux is good, but very tricky | 16:47 |
| Jacques_StrY | But it's good the Pro's not here, being spoon fed isn't good | 16:47 |
| Kilos | shup you i need to eat outa spoons | 16:47 |
| Jacques_StrY | linux has a way of showing your illiteracy | 16:47 |
| Jacques_StrY | been learning that the hard way from the day i started using it | 16:48 |
| Kilos | ouch | 16:48 |
| Kilos | i was worse im sure | 16:48 |
| Kilos | went to #ubuntu for help and couldny keep up and in their lists the tell you use apt-get or aptiude commands but dont tell you about sudo | 16:49 |
| Kilos | then fly found me foundering and brought me here | 16:50 |
| Kilos | lol i even chatted to maaz and wondered why it gave such funny replies | 16:51 |
| Kilos | and im sure everyone remembers my "whats sudo" | 16:51 |
| Jacques_StrY | took me a while to figure out the bot too >.< | 16:51 |
| Jacques_StrY | Maaz: put on the kettle | 16:53 |
| Maaz | Jacques_StrY: *blink* | 16:53 |
| Kilos | shame poor fly had to explaind everything step by step | 16:53 |
| Kilos | such patience | 16:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 16:53 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 16:53 | |
| Kilos | Maaz with cremora | 16:53 |
| Maaz | Ah! At last someone with taste | 16:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz and milk | 16:53 |
| Maaz | Now you're talking | 16:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro coffee time | 16:54 |
| Kilos | its safe to come out now | 16:54 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 16:57 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 16:59 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 16:59 |
| Jacques_StrY | brb | 17:35 |
| Kilos | hi Mopkop | 18:09 |
| Mopkop | Hello! | 18:09 |
| Mopkop | Playing some minetest | 18:09 |
| Kilos | se vir pa ian sal hom hierdie week epos | 18:09 |
| Mopkop | Ok, ek maak so :) | 18:10 |
| Kilos | danke | 18:10 |
| Mopkop | Plesier! | 18:14 |
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| inetpro | good eveneing | 19:38 |
| Jacques_StrY | Good evening | 19:38 |
| Mopkop | Good evening inetpro! | 19:38 |
| inetpro | sjoe, all waiting for me to say something? | 19:39 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:39 |
| inetpro | how is everyone here? | 19:39 |
| inetpro | oh and hi Kilos also | 19:39 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:42 |
| inetpro | clearly he's engaged with some gaming activity or... | 19:43 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 19:44 |
| Mopkop | lol | 19:44 |
| Kilos | wb | 19:44 |
| inetpro | why are you guys so quiet this evening? | 19:45 |
| Kilos | you arent here | 19:45 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:47 |
| inetpro | but when I'm here others even leave | 19:47 |
| Kilos | hehehe | 19:47 |
| Kilos | no | 19:47 |
| Kilos | you and fly are the corner stones here | 19:48 |
| inetpro | look ^^, neil just slipped out the door | 19:48 |
| Kilos | nappy time | 19:48 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:48 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 19:49 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 19:49 | |
| Kilos | hes been doing it all day | 19:49 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee please | 19:49 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 19:49 |
| inetpro | one last cuppa virtual java for the night | 19:49 |
| inetpro | while we still have lights | 19:50 |
| Kilos | wow already | 19:50 |
| inetpro | see, next one out | 19:50 |
| Kilos | seems like storm taking its time to get here tonight | 19:50 |
| Kilos | read logs man he has bad connection | 19:50 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:51 |
| Kilos | sometime we gotta go to lp so i can merge the africa site | 19:52 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! | 19:53 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro g+ and tweet place please | 19:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz danke | 19:53 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 19:53 |
| Kilos | ive done lists | 19:53 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 19:53 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 19:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: cool, what did you add? | 19:53 |
| Kilos | you guys all work tomorrow hey | 19:54 |
| Kilos | i want to go see what you did | 19:54 |
| Kilos | i mean i want to bring it here | 19:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: g+ event does it's own thing, no need to touch that | 19:54 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:54 |
| Kilos | tweet place | 19:54 |
| inetpro | tweet place, we can do tomorrow | 19:55 |
| Kilos | we? | 19:55 |
| Kilos | how many usses in your wee | 19:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: "...so i can merge the africa site" | 19:55 |
| inetpro | you have something to merge? | 19:55 |
| Kilos | doesnt merge mean bring it to your pc? | 19:56 |
| smile | good night :) | 19:56 |
| Kilos | night smile | 19:56 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 19:56 |
| Mopkop | Good night smile! | 19:56 |
| smile | thanks ;) you too | 19:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: merge = combine or cause to combine to form a single entity | 19:57 |
| inetpro | gnight smile | 19:57 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:57 |
| Kilos | just as well i couldnt get lp working | 19:57 |
| Kilos | again | 19:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: like water, milk and coffee | 19:57 |
| Kilos | my ubuntu-africa here is empty | 19:58 |
| Kilos | deleted the old one | 19:58 |
| inetpro | one guy provides milk, another water and yet another coffee | 19:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:58 |
| Kilos | i only turned the kettle on | 19:59 |
| inetpro | and the main guy merges them together to make a perfect drink | 19:59 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 19:59 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 19:59 |
| inetpro | hello superfly | 20:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: so far I think superfly only came with the water | 20:01 |
| Kilos | no man he did everything | 20:01 |
| inetpro | at least it's still steaming hot | 20:01 |
| inetpro | so you can make something with it | 20:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:01 |
| inetpro | just need some more ingredients | 20:01 |
| Kilos | what did you put there inetpro | 20:02 |
| Kilos | the other contact info etc | 20:02 |
| Kilos | we can rope in Mopkop too remember | 20:02 |
| Mopkop | Yea. I'm game :) | 20:02 |
| Kilos | maybe it can go live before the cc decides on council members | 20:03 |
| superfly | i need to figure out how to play minetest with my cardboard | 20:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh, I was powerless, remember!? | 20:04 |
| Kilos | yes | 20:04 |
| superfly | inetpro: your normal excuse :-P | 20:04 |
| * inetpro has a good excuse | 20:04 | |
| Kilos | but only till 7 am | 20:04 |
| inetpro | :-) | 20:04 |
| Kilos | thats 15 hours ago | 20:04 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:05 |
| inetpro | ok, ok, I was lazy also | 20:05 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 20:05 |
| inetpro | and I was afk as well | 20:05 |
| Kilos | what has to be done still before it can go live | 20:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ingredients!!! | 20:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: coffee, according to inetpro, which I think he said he's providing | 20:06 |
| Kilos | man i told you i could get in to lp to see it | 20:06 |
| Kilos | all avy | 20:06 |
| Kilos | aha | 20:06 |
| Kilos | inetpro put the coffee | 20:07 |
| Kilos | please | 20:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what information do you want people to see on the site? | 20:07 |
| Kilos | links to the same stuff as on our site | 20:07 |
| Kilos | get ubuntu etc | 20:07 |
| Kilos | i dont know what list to use there i already getting many mails | 20:08 |
| Mopkop | Maybe a page to link all the different LoCo's? | 20:08 |
| Kilos | yes please Mopkop | 20:08 |
| inetpro | isn't that dynamic kind of stuff that is better hosted on the wiki as is? | 20:09 |
| Kilos | or a link to the wiki with the missing ones | 20:09 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams#preview | 20:09 |
| inetpro | I wouldn't put that on the website | 20:10 |
| Kilos | ok | 20:10 |
| Kilos | thats why you are here | 20:10 |
| Mopkop | Usually when designing a website I work backwards. I start by thinking what people would type in to Google to get to our site. And then I build the site based on what I think they would like to see on the site. | 20:11 |
| Kilos | im the greeter bot remember, already you have me running around serving coffee | 20:11 |
| Kilos | too late to go backwards Mopkop | 20:12 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/ | 20:12 |
| Kilos | thats a must | 20:12 |
| Kilos | maybe something to tell peeps to refresh a few time | 20:12 |
| Kilos | i think this is about the best site out there | 20:13 |
| Mopkop | That's just a template. I'm thinking of the content. | 20:13 |
| inetpro | eish! The wiki very slow again this evening | 20:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that is really just en empty shell | 20:14 |
| Kilos | prettiest shell out there | 20:14 |
| Kilos | the refresh bit is very cool | 20:14 |
| Kilos | well done my fly | 20:14 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:15 |
| Kilos | hopefully my last list mail brings more peeps | 20:15 |
| Mopkop | People would want to know what Ubuntu Africa does, how to join the team, where to get support and so on. Working backwards also helps with SEO. | 20:15 |
| Kilos | that is in our site already just needs links changed | 20:16 |
| Kilos | Mopkop do the thing | 20:17 |
| Kilos | um | 20:17 |
| Mopkop | Yes I like the theme also. Well done superfly! | 20:17 |
| Kilos | bzr thing | 20:17 |
| Kilos | and work backwards then | 20:17 |
| Mopkop | On Ubuntu-africa? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | ill be here | 20:17 |
| Kilos | yes | 20:17 |
| inetpro | why? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | well point him there to see whats done inetpro | 20:18 |
| Kilos | to your merge thing | 20:18 |
| Kilos | and dont start the why thing again | 20:18 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:19 |
| Kilos | and i need a link so i can see | 20:19 |
| * inetpro needs to change strategies | 20:19 | |
| Kilos | not a lp page | 20:19 |
| inetpro | the why trap is failing | 20:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:19 |
| Kilos | nono | 20:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:19 |
| Kilos | im not 3 im 63 | 20:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: who? | 20:20 |
| Mopkop | Haha | 20:20 |
| Kilos | who what? | 20:20 |
| Mopkop | Kilos: Which branch should I get? | 20:20 |
| inetpro | who is the site for? | 20:21 |
| Kilos | the latest one inetpro put there | 20:21 |
| Mopkop | Ok... | 20:21 |
| Kilos | it is for all of us inetpro | 20:21 |
| inetpro | no | 20:21 |
| Kilos | dont forget its for all of africa but driven by za | 20:21 |
| inetpro | Mopkop: lp:ubuntu-africa | 20:22 |
| Kilos | thats why i asked this morning about my team twit | 20:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: keep it simple, stay static with just the bare minimum | 20:22 |
| Kilos | i will promote the site my team built | 20:23 |
| Kilos | tell Mopkop | 20:23 |
| Kilos | Mopkop listen to the man hey | 20:23 |
| Kilos | we dont want slow eye candy | 20:24 |
| Kilos | we want fast efficient info site | 20:24 |
| Kilos | the template thing is all the pretty we need | 20:24 |
| Kilos | right or wrong inetpro ? | 20:25 |
| Mopkop | Haha, Yes even though I still think CMS is best for team projects. At least we have a fast site. | 20:25 |
| Mopkop | lp:ubuntu-africa is still the same as last? | 20:25 |
| Kilos | fast is the answer in todays world | 20:25 |
| Mopkop | And I still can't see the pictures, without putting in that Javascript thingy. | 20:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes and no | 20:25 |
| Kilos | explain | 20:26 |
| Kilos | this isnt an afrikaans channel ja nee | 20:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes it's the same but no it was reversed to remove your twit pages and then merged with the new theme | 20:26 |
| Kilos | is the theme the template | 20:27 |
| inetpro | so in effect, the fly has really done all the work still | 20:27 |
| Kilos | yes as he says as usual | 20:27 |
| Kilos | but we love him for it | 20:27 |
| * inetpro merely assisted by mixing the ingredients | 20:28 | |
| Kilos | and its constructive work that will live on after him | 20:28 |
| Kilos | what ingredients? | 20:29 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:29 |
| Mopkop | Lol. | 20:30 |
| Mopkop | So far just the coffee I think. | 20:30 |
| Kilos | you sent Mopkop to a blank site with only template | 20:30 |
| Kilos | there should be a link to #ubuntu-africa | 20:31 |
| superfly | Mopkop: a CMS is a security nightmare waiting to happen... only in the case of WordPress, it's been happening for the last 10 years. | 20:31 |
| Kilos | and if someone wants to do it a mailing list | 20:31 |
| superfly | (and WordPress isn't a CMS in the real sense either) | 20:31 |
| superfly | Kilos: I'm going to set up ubuntu-africa.info at the end of this month | 20:32 |
| Mopkop | superfly: I can confirm that. I've been hacked with Joomla once. | 20:32 |
| Kilos | cool ty superfly ill try get the guys to do something there | 20:32 |
| superfly | Mopkop: Joomla is just a mess | 20:32 |
| Kilos | did you look at what the pro proposed superfly | 20:33 |
| superfly | Mopkop: if I *have* to use PHP, I use Drupal. Otherwise I'd rather use static, or something written in Python | 20:33 |
| superfly | Kilos: I'm not sure if I'm following... you'll have to explain it to me,. | 20:34 |
| Kilos | superfly inetpro did something there and its waiting for approval | 20:34 |
| superfly | oh | 20:34 |
| superfly | I'll go have a look | 20:35 |
| Kilos | ty | 20:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oh? | 20:35 |
| Kilos | oh my | 20:35 |
| inetpro | superfly: no | 20:35 |
| * inetpro has added nothing else, just yet | 20:35 | |
| Mopkop | superfly: Never tried Drupal before. CMS is good when many people have to collaborate, and you have 800+ pages. I can't find a good CMS static generator. I thought of making one myself. | 20:35 |
| superfly | Kilos: yeaah, I don't see anything | 20:35 |
| Kilos | eish | 20:35 |
| superfly | Mopkop: static site generators are too technical for most plebs | 20:36 |
| superfly | (and dominees) | 20:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro where are the ingredients | 20:37 |
| Mopkop | Lol, then a Joomla-static-converter. :) That would be nice :) | 20:37 |
| superfly | inetpro: what's your proposal, oom? | 20:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: last I remember was where I struggled to get you to visit a simple web page | 20:37 |
| Kilos | nono man moppie doen dit soos vlieg dit doen hy weet van | 20:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd/45-build-ubuntu-africa-site | 20:38 |
| Kilos | sigh | 20:38 |
| Kilos | what you want there inetpro ? a comment? | 20:39 |
| inetpro | superfly: what more do we need other than on the trello checklist? | 20:39 |
| inetpro | in other words, the crucial items for now are: 1. Content for the Front page, 2. Get involved page and 3. IRC page | 20:41 |
| Mopkop | Do we just need the 3 things on the checklist for the site to go online? | 20:41 |
| superfly | inetpro: I think that's probaby all.. apart from a couple of links to the wiki | 20:41 |
| superfly | inetpro, Mopkop: pretty much | 20:41 |
| * inetpro can agree on that | 20:42 | |
| inetpro | we can always discuss anything else later | 20:42 |
| Kilos | is the hosting and config your stuff superfly ? | 20:43 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, I'll organise that. | 20:43 |
| Kilos | cool ty so Mopkop and inetpro are tied to the rest | 20:43 |
| Mopkop | Ok, can we remove the current pages. The 'tags' and 'RSS'. I really do not see the use for it in a static site. | 20:45 |
| Mopkop | And 'Archive' | 20:45 |
| Kilos | superfly inetpro ^^ | 20:45 |
| inetpro | yes and Source | 20:46 |
| Mopkop | Just one more question. Are the picture suppose to not show in the trunk version of the site? Just wondering if it is not maybe a problem with my Nikola | 20:47 |
| Kilos | oh i was missing nikola | 20:48 |
| superfly | Mopkop: I'm not sure if they'll work locally, because I think I address some things as though you're on the internet | 20:48 |
| superfly | Mopkop: that's easy. edit the conf.py file | 20:48 |
| superfly | (your first question) | 20:48 |
| Kilos | superfly whats that thing you doing minetest on | 20:49 |
| inetpro | Mopkop: nikola --version | 20:49 |
| superfly | Kilos: want to do, not am. Google Cardboard. | 20:50 |
| Kilos | is that a thing like a pi | 20:50 |
| superfly | ek moet gaan slaap. nag mense | 20:50 |
| Mopkop | superfly: Yes I know about the menu thingies. I just thought the bootstrap Javascript you added to the site is missing in the trunk. If I copy-paste that code in the footer into my local copy and make a file to contain the script, it works locally. | 20:50 |
| Mopkop | inetpro: Nikola v7.3.1 | 20:50 |
| Kilos | sleep tight superfly | 20:50 |
| Mopkop | Nag superfly! | 20:50 |
| inetpro | Mopkop: I have v7.3.0 and I see pictures | 20:51 |
| inetpro | lemme upgrade quick | 20:51 |
| superfly | Mopkop: oh, did I forget to commit the file? ai. | 20:52 |
| superfly | remind me tomorrow evening, I'll go add it | 20:53 |
| Mopkop | Ok, I'll do that. | 20:53 |
| superfly | anyway, night night | 20:53 |
| inetpro | works for me | 20:53 |
| Mopkop | inetpro: That is what I was afraid of. | 20:53 |
| Mopkop | Let's see, maybe it's just firefox. | 20:54 |
| inetpro | sorry Mopkop, maybe I was just not understanding your issues | 20:55 |
| Mopkop | Nope, not just with Firefox. | 20:55 |
| Mopkop | Maybe it's not branching the new commits. | 20:56 |
| * inetpro is lost now | 20:56 | |
| inetpro | Mopkop: not branching the new commits? | 20:57 |
| Mopkop | I mean, maybe an older version is still stored, and the update command doesn't work. | 20:58 |
| inetpro | Mopkop: did you create your own branch? | 20:58 |
| Mopkop | No. | 20:58 |
| Mopkop | Let's see let me just delete everything and start over again. | 20:59 |
| inetpro | start by doing that before you edit anything | 20:59 |
| inetpro | Mopkop: I use the instructions as found at https://trello.com/c/wLYOqOld | 20:59 |
| inetpro | just use ubuntu-africa in stead of ubuntu-za | 21:00 |
| Kilos | w00t i see it | 21:00 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:01 |
| inetpro | time running out again | 21:01 |
| Mopkop | webassets might be the problem. Nikola uses a lot of add-ons | 21:01 |
| Kilos | all day i forgot about the long nikola routine | 21:01 |
| Kilos | why is the kasbah missing | 21:03 |
| Kilos | whatever a kasbah is | 21:03 |
| * inetpro heading off to get some sleep | 21:03 | |
| inetpro | good night | 21:03 |
| Kilos | night inetpro sleep tight | 21:03 |
| Kilos | ty for the help | 21:03 |
| Mopkop | Nag! | 21:04 |
| Kilos | se jy ook nag seun? | 21:04 |
| Mopkop | Ek gaan ook nou gaan slaap, sodra ek uigefigure het waarom webassets nie wil install nie. | 21:05 |
| Kilos | ok dankie vir die hulp.lekker slaap | 21:05 |
| Kilos | het jy nikola build gedoen | 21:05 |
| Kilos | van die trunk af | 21:06 |
| Mopkop | Ja, dieselfde probleem... | 21:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 21:07 |
| Kilos | dit loop mooi hier in chrome | 21:07 |
| Mopkop | Ek is seker dit is een of ander add-on vir Nikola wat nie gelaai is nie. | 21:07 |
| Kilos | en ek like nie chrome nie | 21:07 |
| Mopkop | Kom ons probeer dan Chrome... | 21:07 |
| Mopkop | Chrome dink alles wat ek intik wil ek Google :( | 21:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:09 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s25uEMOMOr | 21:09 |
| Kilos | daar is als wat nikola build moet gaan haal | 21:09 |
| Mopkop | Dankie! Ek probeer dit nou vergelyk met myne, maar myne doen dit in 'n heeltemal ander volgorde. | 21:12 |
| Mopkop | Ek wonder of bzr al die files gaan kry... | 21:13 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2N95IpfJi | 21:14 |
| Kilos | dis hoe ek my goed opstel | 21:14 |
| Mopkop | Ek kon sweer dis hoe ek dit gedoen het. | 21:15 |
| Mopkop | Maar laat ek van voor af probeer... | 21:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:15 |
| Kilos | moet jy nie slaap nie seun? | 21:18 |
| Mopkop | Steeds dieselfde probleem. Ja ek dink ek gaan maar slaap. En aan sukkel sodra my taak klaar is môre. Lekker slaap oom! | 21:19 |
| Kilos | jy ook dankie | 21:19 |
| Kilos | sien jou more | 21:19 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:19 |
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