[04:44] Maaz: tell Kilos power restored just now [04:44] inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:12] morning nlsthzn and others [05:21] hey uncle Kilos [05:25] i wonder if inetpro has had power restored yet [05:26] yup [05:26] maaz was supposed to tell you [05:26] @08:44 [05:29] By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell Kilos power restored just now" 27 minutes and 28 seconds ago [05:29] i missed the second one. easier to just read first line [05:29] lol [05:31] now i just wait for a mail from the cc okes nlsthzn [05:31] no meeting to attend [05:31] ah so your nomination is in then :) [05:31] good luck :D [05:31] ya ty [05:32] and elacheche from my africa channel [05:33] :) [05:34] been an OK week-end for SA rugby too [05:34] only the cheetahs not winning [05:34] *yawn* [05:34] lol ya apart from the bulls [05:35] bulls won at least :) [05:35] oh did the bulls win [05:35] didn't play well [05:35] 1 point [05:35] wow i watched the game and forgot [05:35] >.< [05:35] I guess it happens with age :p [05:35] just know the sharks game was shocking [05:36] but nice to see a rev taking note of how they cheat [05:36] ref [05:36] about time [05:37] its a big thing with them to play guys off the ball to prevent them getting in the fray [05:37] they been doing that for ages [05:37] ya [05:37] * nlsthzn hears the little bundle of wind stir again... poor thing having a tough time of it the last week [05:38] i think the tmo must be given the power to blow the whistle as well [05:38] put his flag out [05:38] ya [05:39] remark on you comment [05:39] nlsthzn hears the little bundle of wind stir again... poor thing having a tough time of it the last week [05:39] oh shame [05:40] kept mom awake which is why I am not at a work thing today... keeping him in the front of the house with me while mom sleeps... [05:40] so far having a better than average snooze so I am glad [05:40] shame, whats wrong [05:41] my wife can take a lot... had a c section that people didn't believe she had as she was up and about... but mess with her sleep >.< oh boy :p [05:41] winds and cramps [05:41] keeps him awake, gets over stimulated and then can't sleep more [05:41] vicious cycle [05:41] ai! [05:42] old name popped up in head merbentyl [05:42] wasnt that for winds and cramps [05:44] and we found with ian , putting him on tummy to sleep let winds come out easy [05:46] trying anything so thanks ;) [05:46] :) [05:47] good luck, we had 3 months where one had to stay awake and watch, because if he squeeled once he stopped breathing [05:48] he got more bum whacks in his first 6 months that most get it a lifetime [05:52] :( [05:52] alls well that ends well [05:52] yeah [05:53] took 3 months in incubator and 3 months by us for his lungs to develope to the stage where we got some sleep [05:54] haha and now he is balder than me already [05:55] :) [06:26] hi spinza you flooding freenode again hehe [06:27] something to do with your clients login methinks [06:31] nlsthzn why are list peeps so hard to get to meetings? [07:09] not everyone sees the need for the meetings... most people use the loco as a source of free tech support... they don't want to assist etc... [07:11] ai! [07:13] now this new wiki page has taken over on google so i cant find the old list of members on launchpad [07:13] was 73 i think [07:18] this one? - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [07:18] 83 currently [07:19] ya thats it ty nlsthzn [07:19] googled "ubuntu-za launchpad" was the 4th link [07:20] hi JoTraGo [07:20] welcome to ubuntu-za [07:20] man nlsthzn you know google isnt my friend [07:20] i ask the wrong questions [07:20] :) [07:24] hmm... [07:34] i think ive bitten off more than i can chew [07:35] i need the pro to come back from church [07:38] the way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time [07:40] hahaha always a clever answer [07:43] nlsthzn have you got time to write a quick tutorial on how to get a launchpad id and join ubuntu-za [07:43] oh joining is from the site hey [07:44] spinza ping [07:45] nlsthzn for noobs that know nothing [08:03] hi SDCDev [08:19] sorry uncle Kilos ... will look into something later... currently I need to get a shower and become human to run some errands and get back on nappy duty etc :p [08:21] lol np [09:03] so is there a was to subscribe or whatever its called so i can be mailed when new members join here [09:03] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [09:03] s/was/way [09:24] hi hexdream [09:24] Hi Kilos [09:24] this is better than email imo [09:25] Thanks for the reminder to join up with ubuntu-za [09:25] we need all you lug guys here [09:25] much faster [09:25] yeah [09:26] So things are pretty quiet today? [09:26] remind wwk about the meet here on tueday night at 20.00 please [09:26] yeah peeps are at church [09:26] we are never as busy as #ubuntu [09:27] i get lost there [09:27] oh ya and kick vincent as well, he has been scarce here [09:30] Things have been very quiet here LUG-wise. [09:30] peeps are too busy trying to make a living [09:31] we are always active with something or other here [09:32] yeah. I just got myself a midi keyboard... going to try teach myself how to use it... of course that m3eans le3arning the audio applications, and jack. [09:32] lol [09:32] clearly I'm a sucker for punishment [09:33] and looking at my typing I think I need some coffee [09:35] lol [09:35] brb [09:35] ok [09:36] hi Jacques_StrY [09:36] Hi [09:47] nice to see the some interaction with the LUG's :D [09:52] ya [09:52] i want to get them all involved [09:53] we all have the same basic goal imo [09:54] World domination! [09:54] lol kinda [09:54] hi captine [09:54] hi there Kilos [10:07] hexdream we arent a channel tied to our topic. we try help with everything here [10:08] Does anyone here have any experience with jack? I'm thinking of setting up my system to run only through jack to keep apps like vlc from breaking while I muck around with various other audio apps. [10:11] I messed with it a little bit some time ago but stopped... [10:11] to much of a pita [10:12] why is setting up a vlan connection in ubuntu such a pain... [10:12] been trying to get it to work for 2hours+ with no luck [10:14] just now freenode is going to ban spinza [10:16] Anyone here have experience with vlan setup on ubuntu? [10:17] there was someone did it a while ago [10:18] wait for pro to return and tell him fixit [10:19] haha well i'll keep trying will he's available [10:19] not* [10:19] lol [10:23] he will most likely first tell you man this or that, then rtfs in caps and then he will help you [10:24] stubborn old goat [10:24] yea :) [10:25] and when he sees what i have said he will login with an ai! [10:25] id be lost without my pro [10:25] haha [10:27] i think it could be that my virtualbox is interfering [10:27] oh you running that as well [10:27] gonna try on another pc [10:35] Jacques_StrY once you got it working write a nice easy how to for us and post the link on trello please [10:36] haha will do [11:12] tried it on another pc but still no success [11:12] vlan interface shows correctly in ifconfig but I can't ping out to vlan network [11:13] can't ping vlan from another pc ass well [11:13] as* [11:27] hmm... [11:27] you not doing rtfs [11:28] vlan is a virtual lan right [11:34] oh ethewrnet too [11:34] ai! [11:35] just when i thought v was for virtual [12:49] nah vlan is virtual lan [12:49] so you can connect to two seperate networks on one NIC [12:49] same as virualbox [12:50] in a way cause virtualbox can create vpn's for the guest operating systems [12:50] this whole virtual think tips my head [12:50] that's why I thought it might be interfering but on another system it didn't want to work too [12:52] eish [12:52] call mr fixit. you are missing something simple [12:53] i have used it allot on windows systems but this my first time setting up on linux so I'm probably doing something wrong [12:56] ya small thing you are missing im sure [12:58] did you google? [12:58] pro will say google is your friend [12:58] http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html [12:59] oh thats eth [12:59] ai! [13:10] lol i've been googling the whole time [13:10] still am [13:10] its a stupid thing i think [13:10] nlsthzn tell him man [13:35] Raise your hand if you like the Universe. [13:35] Kilos: ? [13:37] hi8 stickyboy [13:37] hi too [13:37] help Jacques_StrY setup a vlan please [13:39] hi :) [13:39] hi smile [13:40] hi Kilos [13:40] especially for you ;) [13:40] hee hee [13:42] I was translating a website to Afrikaans [13:46] Kilos: Working on server... and reading this about the Eagle Nebula: https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-most-amazing-hubble-image-ever-f9e7604fe106 [13:47] LOL Kenyans always say "Africans" instead of "Afrikaans". [13:47] Ok, not always. But I've heard it a few times and I chuckle. [13:47] here afrikaans is the language [13:48] Kilos: Yes. :) [13:48] african is the peeps that live in africa [13:48] wbb [13:48] But its similarity is obviously confusing. :P [13:48] ... because it's kinda similar to the name of the continent. :P [13:49] stickyboy: you still chuckle? :p [13:50] Yes, because I know the difference and I hear people talk about it who mix the two. [13:50] ya [13:50] help them [13:52] stickyboy i asked you for a favour man [13:52] help Jacques_StrY he is having probs setting up vlan on linux [13:55] Kilos: Oh hehe. [13:55] Jacques_StrY state what you have done and tried [13:56] lol [13:56] Uh, never done that. [13:56] sigh [13:56] you lug okes are supposed to know everything [13:57] maybe you better join an ubuntu group somewhere for more knowledge [13:57] * Kilos hides [14:01] :P [14:01] Kilos: To be honest, I think I'm burned out. [14:02] oh my [14:02] time for leave [14:02] Kilos: I think I need a sabbatical. [14:02] Or maybe a Ferrari. [14:03] lol [14:03] ferraris are good ya, you can escape anything [14:04] lol [14:04] Going to the US next week. [14:04] But will only be slightly relaxing. [14:04] work or play? [14:05] stickyboy: no tesla for you? :p [14:07] smile: Actually, that's better. [14:10] stickyboy for how long are you going? [14:11] Kilos: 2 weeks. [14:11] :) [14:11] ah well enjoy what you can and persevere through the rest [14:12] Kilos: Mos def. [14:12] Gotta eat a bunch of Mexican food. [14:12] lekker man [14:12] they make good food [14:14] haha yeah [14:15] http://www.privacyfoundation.ch/de/service/server.html [14:15] Swiss Privacy DNS servers.. [14:15] Stop using 8.8.8.8, people. :P [14:19] do you understand what they say in that link? [14:21] ah found the english button [14:21] Kilos: I only copy the numbers aahahah [14:23] lol [14:23] always read the fine print [14:24] thats normally where the catches lie [14:25] Kilos: So much wisdom [14:25] lol [14:26] hi captine [15:04] Sorry was out for a bit [15:06] we noticed haha [15:06] >.< [15:06] those servers pull some serious bandwidth [15:06] im still looking for someone to help you [15:06] hey smile [15:07] Jacques_StrY needs help with vlan setup [15:07] hi :p I'm no vlan guy, sorry [15:07] haha [15:07] np i'm not in a hurry with the vlan setup [15:07] sigh [15:08] it's for at home [15:08] so no rush [15:08] someone here knows, and we will dig him out sooner or later [15:08] Jacques_StrY: a VLAN at home? :o [15:09] lol testing out the setup at home to implement later at work [15:09] so then its important man [15:09] smile: and my setup at home is pretty overkill [15:09] explain in noob language what you are doing [15:10] i bash my way through stuff [15:10] then cry and someone feels sorry for me and helps [15:10] Jacques_StrY: maybe you wanted the porn separated ;) [15:10] smile: That was supposed to be a secret! [15:11] sorry o.O [15:11] >.< [15:11] haha [15:11] So I setup a IPFire router that handles the internet for a portion of the network [15:12] smile meeting here tuesday night hey [15:12] Kilos: okay! :D what time? [15:12] 20.00 our time [15:12] That way I have good QOS and can easily switch between internet lines if main internet drops [15:12] good plan, yes :p [15:12] you use multiple ISPs? [15:13] smile: Well if adsl drops in total I can then switch to wireless [15:14] :) [15:14] I have VDSL :D [15:14] * Jacques_StrY cries [15:15] we can't get anything faster than 4mb here [15:15] Jacques_StrY: no 4G yet? [15:16] We have but I push too much bandwidth to go permanent 4g [15:16] I see [15:17] what about multiple ISP connections? [15:17] the problem is our dsl goes of regularly at home [15:18] bout once every 3-4 months and usually almost a week [15:18] satellite internet! :D [15:18] :o [15:18] here every year two times [15:18] for some reason lighting loves our exchange etc.. [15:18] usually a few days [15:19] internet exchange? which one do you use? [15:19] i'm confused, dsl area exchange [15:21] I'm with Afrihost as ISP but they have been super stable [15:23] but I need to use vlan on my file servers cause they have to be accessible on both networks and that's where the problem is [15:23] smile: You guys so lucky with VDSL :) [15:24] Jacques_StrY: fiber is coming to the city near me [15:24] ;) [15:26] * Jacques_StrY cries again... [15:26] Jacques_StrY im just guessing [15:26] have you run traceroute and tracepath [15:26] and the other on was route -n i think [15:27] if they on they same network they must be accessible somehow [15:27] Well route -n displays the main network and the vlan as expected [15:28] and you can ssh into the servers? [15:29] oh no if you cant ping them you wont [15:29] i'm currently logging in via ssh on main network but no luck on vlan [15:30] there must be a way [15:30] Probably something small and obvious I'm missing [15:30] wait for fly and pro [15:31] can you see their ip addys [15:32] network only main IP - vlan not responding [15:32] unplug and replug [15:32] But I can ping own vlan IP from self >.< [15:33] So vlan supposed to be on [15:36] Jacques_StrY: it's some years, but it's coming :) [15:36] professional, big companies already have it [15:37] Oh well, RTB will get it someday... [15:44] Jacques_StrY guessing again [15:44] isnt your firewall blocking them [15:44] or router firewall [15:44] is RTB Roatan? :) [15:45] rustenburg [15:45] >.< [15:45] same place ian stays [15:45] well could maybe be ubuntu firewall [15:45] i'll check [15:58] Jacques_StrY, ADSL going down sucks. I have been fortunate... very little down time [16:00] we we of for a few days bout 2 weeks back - tree fell on telephone lines - getting used to it :) [16:02] wb nlsthzn [16:02] Jacques_StrY did you try running route -n from the servers [16:03] and other commands [16:04] well ifconfig and route -n both show the interface correctly [16:05] Well something is wrong vlan interface shows packets sent but none recieved [16:06] inetpro ? [16:07] Fixed OCSP stapling on my blawggggg. [16:07] https://mjanja.ch/ [16:07] Now your browsing should be milliseconds less. Yay? https://mjanja.ch/ [16:09] Nice - didn't even know about OCSP stapling >.< [16:09] lol [16:09] i still don [16:09] t [16:10] o/ [16:13] the guys that know will hide tonight Jacques_StrY [16:14] Kilos: That's super deep, d00d. [16:14] haha [16:14] haha [16:17] OCSP stapling has to do with how a client determines the server's HTTPS certificate is valid. :D [16:18] I can't get over how beautiful this article is... https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-most-amazing-hubble-image-ever-f9e7604fe106 [16:23] that looks ridiculous [16:35] i really dislike juniper networks vpn through IS. What a pain to get working on 64bit ubuntu [16:38] AND IT IS WORKING! [16:38] sorry for caps [16:38] oh wow what did you do Jacques_StrY [16:39] it would seems that i was using the wrong term for what I was trying to do [16:39] write it all down [16:40] ai! you bad as me [16:40] in fact I don't want vlan but IP aliasing [16:40] with vlan you need network switch support, which I don't have [16:41] and the only difference between them in /etc/network/interfaces [16:42] sjoe [16:42] well glad you found it [16:42] is vlan you use ex. eth1.0 and ip aliasing eth1:0 [16:42] just had to replace the "." with ":" [16:42] well done [16:43] >.< well I learned allot with all the google searched so wasn't that bad [16:43] TY [16:45] now the lurkers can show their faces [16:45] haha [16:45] Jacques_StrY write it down [16:45] did thanks :) [16:46] see, that was a tiny thing [16:46] Yep [16:47] linux is good, but very tricky [16:47] But it's good the Pro's not here, being spoon fed isn't good [16:47] shup you i need to eat outa spoons [16:47] linux has a way of showing your illiteracy [16:48] been learning that the hard way from the day i started using it [16:48] ouch [16:48] i was worse im sure [16:49] went to #ubuntu for help and couldny keep up and in their lists the tell you use apt-get or aptiude commands but dont tell you about sudo [16:50] then fly found me foundering and brought me here [16:51] lol i even chatted to maaz and wondered why it gave such funny replies [16:51] and im sure everyone remembers my "whats sudo" [16:51] took me a while to figure out the bot too >.< [16:53] Maaz: put on the kettle [16:53] Jacques_StrY: *blink* [16:53] shame poor fly had to explaind everything step by step [16:53] such patience [16:53] Maaz coffee on [16:53] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [16:53] Maaz with cremora [16:53] Ah! At last someone with taste [16:53] Maaz and milk [16:53] Now you're talking [16:54] inetpro coffee time [16:54]