[02:59] <kian> ugh fuck
[02:59] <kian> what do we use to config our display sleep etc?
[02:59] <kian> the power manager does not work
[02:59] <kian> that is included in 14.04
[03:09] <Unit193> No cussing.  Generally xfce4-power-manager, but something else could have been installed that's managing it.
[03:13] <kian> Unit193: ah my apologies
[03:13] <kian> Unit193: it's a stock install.
[03:14] <Unit193> kian: Sure.  Alright, so yes it should be xfpm.  Try  ps aux | grep power
[03:14] <kian> Unit193: you mean xfce?
[03:15] <Unit193> In theory, light-locker, xscreensaver, or whatever could be blanking it.  I think xscreensaver was set on the 'black' screensaver when it was used.  xfpm = xfce4-power-manager for the lazy.
[03:18] <kian> Unit193: give me one moment, my main system is acting finnicky
[03:19] <Unit193> kian: Oooh!  Double the fun!
[03:19] <kian> Unit193: lol
[03:22] <kian> Unit193: http://a.pomf.se/upmudb.png
[03:23] <Unit193> kian: Alright, then xscreensaver settings?
[03:23] <kian> just turned it off as far as I remember
[03:23] <kian> When the system was turned on it would require a password
[03:24] <kian> Disabling it fixed it, as far as I remember
[03:33] <kian> Unit193: no sorry
[03:33] <kian> I disabled "light locker"
[03:33] <kian> Prefeences --> Light Locker and then turned off "Enable light-locker"
[03:34] <Unit193> And you did ensure it isn't running now?  Can you pastebin  xset q  ?
[04:19] <The_Eccentric> anyone body else's xorg lock up after you try to resume from sleep?
[04:25] <Unit193> The_Eccentric: Care to mention what release and maybe card?
[04:26] <Unit193> If it helps, suspend is working peachey on this computer.
[04:28] <The_Eccentric> 14.04
[04:29] <The_Eccentric> which card?, my good man
[04:29] <Unit193> Mhmm, doesn't help you there, I'm on 15.04.
[04:29] <The_Eccentric> 14.0.2 *
[04:29] <The_Eccentric> server overlay
[04:40] <PerfM> rww, it would be so much easier if you gave me a list of all the channels you are in rn
[04:41] <PerfM> omg yaaaas another offtopic channel
[04:45] <The_Eccentric> what?
[04:46] <PerfM> The_Eccentric, I really like your nickname. Where did you come up with it?
[05:10] <PerfM> bye babes
[06:04] <qwerty> how do i change resolution please?
[06:05] <The_Eccentric> andar
[06:05] <The_Eccentric> i think
[06:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> arandr
[10:57] <stormchaser3000> wth
[10:57] <stormchaser3000> cmake couldn't find x11
[11:59] <Guest61490> on latest lubuntu, i have preferences set to display connected drives but is it poss to exclude LAN connections from this? I don't want a '/' to appear on desktop whenever i browse local network but do want usb drives etc to show up
[12:00] <Guest61490> *connected volumes
[12:01] <leszek> Guest61490: I guess it isn't possible yet it will display all udisk volumes and there is no filter to only display removable media
[12:02] <Guest61490> ok thanks for the answer anyway
[12:06] <Guest61490> well that is odd. the desktop icon is labelled as '<dir> on<host>' but when I click it to browse the network folder it changes to '/'
[12:06] <leszek> Guest61490: might be a bug then. Does this happen with every folder ?
[12:07] <Guest61490> dunno theres only one shared folder on the machine
[12:11] <Guest61490> odder still it changes to '/' when i hover over it
[17:58] <puff> Good afternoon.
[17:59] <puff> I just rebuilt this ancient laptop for a friend, dell inspiron 6000, 1.3Ghz, 1GB RAM, 52GB of disk... about 30-35GB space free.
[17:59] <puff> I'm thinking about putting dual boot linux on it for them to try it out.
[17:59] <puff> I'm more familiar with xubuntu, but somebody recommended lubuntu as being faster/lighter.
[18:00] <puff> Is the difference between the two enough to be significant?
[18:01] <The_Eccentric> there both tailored to be light
[18:01] <The_Eccentric> just depends what you install on it
[18:05] <puff> The_Eccentric: dell inspiron 6000, 1.3Ghz, 1GB RAM, 35GB of free disk space.
[18:09] <The_Eccentric> I mean what linux applications you want installed on it, also I take you since your dual boating you have a windows partation as well?
[18:09] <Glamdring> I'm sure it's a bad idea, but how do I start a new X in another TTY?
[18:10] <The_Eccentric> startx
[18:10] <puff> The_Eccentric: Yeah, it has a winxp install on it... I don't want to throw them in the deep end (because I don't want to get desperate phone calls in the middle of the night) so I figure a dual boot.
[18:11] <The_Eccentric> puff: you know how to dual boot correct?
[18:11] <Glamdring> That seems to work poorly for me. no absolute path found for shell, so I looked that up and got a lot of startx gnome-session replies, so I tried startx lxsession and got explicit shell already was /usr/bin/lxsession...
[18:12] <Glamdring> Which surely means that latter was just stupid.
[18:12] <Glamdring> But, y'know, soy un n00b.
[18:12] <Glamdring> startx alone just hangs.
[18:13] <Glamdring> Last thing it says is (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[18:15] <Glamdring> Any ideas?
[18:17]  * Glamdring will wait for a few minutes.
[18:17] <puff> The_Eccentric: I'm not sure how to dual boot correctly.  I had been assuming the lubuntu install disk will have an option to set that up.
[18:18] <puff> Glamdring: Hm, if I recall correctly, control-alt-backspace restarts your X server.
[18:18] <puff> Glamdring: In a number of GUIs.
[18:19] <puff> Glamdring: Oh, in a separate tty... interesting question there.
[18:20] <Glamdring> Yeah, it's making trouble for me in that regard. Which is probably because this is a very stupid idea that I simply wanna know how to do.
[18:21] <The_Eccentric> puff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:24] <puff> The_Eccentric: Thanks.
[18:26] <Glamdring> The_Eccentric: Am I asking the question incorrectly?
[18:26] <The_Eccentric> hrrm
[18:26] <The_Eccentric> yes well at least for me
[18:26] <Glamdring> Dang.
[18:26] <The_Eccentric> what is your end goal?
[18:26] <Glamdring> I don't know how to phrase it more clearly.
[18:27] <Glamdring> My end goal? Basically to have an X session in more than one TTY. I could just use another desktop or ten, of course, but I like the idea of knowing how to actually have a whole other instance going.
[18:28] <The_Eccentric> you want the gui as well
[18:28] <The_Eccentric> or just a terminal
[18:28] <The_Eccentric> in another TTY
[18:30] <puff> About how much disk will lubuntu need to run comfortably?  (with firefox, chrome, etc)?
[18:31] <Glamdring> A GUI, really. I doubt a lot of the games I want to play run well without the GUI, more's the pity.
[18:31] <Glamdring> Some day I'll have to find out why that is.
[18:33] <The_Eccentric> you already tried ctl+alt f1-9 ?
[18:33] <Glamdring> Well, that brings me to another tty, and I can do (what, they're called...) shell commands.
[18:33] <Glamdring> Right?
[18:34] <The_Eccentric> yes
[18:34] <The_Eccentric> once you login in
[18:34] <Glamdring> Well, I mean, after I log in of course.
[18:34] <The_Eccentric> yes
[18:34] <Glamdring> I confess, I've never tried running Wine from there.
[18:35] <Glamdring> Just tried opentyrian, a native game. It runs, but expresses entirely in ASCII, which is unplayable, though amusing.
[18:36] <The_Eccentric> o you want to run games in mulitle tty sessions ?
[18:38] <Glamdring> More or less.
[18:38] <Glamdring> No GOOD reason, but I've far too much computer for my needs, so I figured I'd learn how to make it do stupid tricks.
[18:44] <Glamdring> I specifically asked here so that I could avoid any answers making reference to gnome.
[18:47] <Glamdring> Well, to clarify I'm using lxde, so also because of that.
[18:55] <Glamdring> Hrm. Having trouble fielding the question, or just disinterested?
[18:56] <Glamdring> Or other, I suppose.
[19:14] <Glamdring> Well... I do have a question which matters. I'm trying to set up a new keyboard shortcut to switch to a specific workspace with a specific key command (as opposed to ctrl-alt-arrow key to cycle.) Openbox being what it is, this is a fairly manual process apparently. What command do I use to switch to a specific desktop? I tried googling this, and the results have been surprisingly unhelpful; assurances that wmctrl works a given way have f
[19:18] <Glamdring> Which, of course, means I'm probably doing it wrong. How do I do that right?
[19:23] <Glamdring> AH! I got it to work!
[19:23] <Glamdring> Uh. Or not.
[19:24] <Glamdring> No, still no idea what I'm doing, 'cause wmctrl -s desktop 1 does exactly the same thing as wmctrl -s desktop 2, which means I don't know how to wmctrl -s
[20:02] <ianorlin> Glamdring: there are shortcuts for that already of super key (windows) plus f #of desktop for up to four by default
[20:08] <Glamdring> So there is!
[20:08] <Glamdring> Thanks!
[20:55] <melodie> hi
[20:56] <melodie> I want to install lubuntu 14.04.2 amd64 on a machine which has gpt and uefi, the empty space is ready to receive it, there is an efi partition, and I have one question left: there is no "grub-efi" in the distro, as tells me "apt-cache policy grub-efi". so if I install it in the live, will it be used by the installer?
[20:56] <melodie> or would I have better forget it and install something else? (the machine is truly unable to boot to usb stick even with plop boot manager)
[20:57] <melodie> and I don't have DVD-R left
[20:57] <melodie> ping Unit193 ?
[20:57] <melodie> :)
[20:58] <melodie> I have done a full backup of the windows 8.1 installed, with Clonezilla, but I'd better not have to restore it.
[20:59] <melodie> I'll hang around if someone has answers for me...
[21:27] <Unit193> !info grub-efi
[21:41] <ianorlin> melodie: do you have a usb?
[21:42] <melodie> ianorlin I do
[21:42] <melodie> ianorlin someone on a French chan just told me to use dd
[21:43] <ianorlin> ah but it won't boot from usb
[21:43] <melodie> ianorlin I have to avoid making mistakes, the machine isn't mine
[21:43] <ianorlin> ah
[21:44] <melodie> I would like to be sure it will always boot no matter what
[21:44] <melodie> even if Windows updates reinstall it's own efi files for instance
[21:44] <melodie> later...
[21:46] <ianorlin> I don't have any expirence with windows 8 machines I jsut bought a motherboard that came in setup mode
[21:57] <melodie> what do you mean "in setup mode" ?
[21:57] <melodie> can you explain precisely?
[22:05] <ianorlin> setup mode is a thing for uefi motherboards that is provided like if you just bought the motherboard to install the first os on it
[23:47] <melodie> ianorlin I get it, it allows you to choose to boot to either or efi or legacy mode?
[23:47] <melodie> is that so?
[23:47] <ianorlin> melodie: that is an option in uefi
[23:48] <ianorlin> but there is stuff that swithiching I think requires a new partition table
[23:48] <ianorlin> I am not sure what switching means for multiple disks however
[23:48] <melodie> ianorlin yes, what are the names for the two modes again? (I ve been reading so many pages of docs on the topic these days my head does not know even the basics anymore)
[23:49] <melodie> efi or mbr?
[23:49] <melodie> not sure anymore
[23:50] <melodie> there is confusion in my mind now. gpt table partition/vs /ms-dos table and so on...
[23:54] <kian> what's the difference between sleep and suspend?
[23:55] <kian> I have a little workstation behind my TV running Lubuntu that I setup yesterday. Lubuntu 14.04.02.
[23:55] <kian> When I manually suspend it, I can't wake it up via keyboard.