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| phunyguy | gosh darnit | 05:51 |
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| ROOM1 | hi | 07:07 |
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| ROOM1 | hi | 07:37 |
| ROOM1 | hi | 07:37 |
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| dholbach | hiya | 09:47 |
| dholbach | is anyone aware of the mysql-5.6 installation/removal issues? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0) | 09:47 |
| dholbach | hey rbasak, ^ do you know who could help with this? | 09:49 |
| rbasak | dholbach: that would be me - thank you for the heads up | 09:52 |
| dholbach | <3 | 09:52 |
| dholbach | rbasak, if you need a tester with half-installed packages let me know :) | 09:53 |
| rbasak | dholbach: OK. So you can confirm the bug? | 09:54 |
| dholbach | yes | 09:54 |
| rbasak | Thanks | 09:54 |
| dholbach | I noticed mysql-server-5.6 being installed yesterday and couldn't quite remember installing it in the last time, so I tried to remove it | 09:55 |
| dholbach | now dpkg says "rH mysql-server-5.6" | 09:55 |
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| nivv | Is it possible to dry run a dist upgrade? I'm moving from 12.04 to 14.04 | 11:05 |
| istram | hey! is there anybody using cloud-init while also having a configuration management system? | 11:05 |
| OpenTokix | istram: yes and no, dpeends onr you config managmenet. | 11:05 |
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| istram | OpenTokix: what are your experiences? I have rather minimal configuration in it as the CFGM takes over quite quickly for most of tasks. | 11:11 |
| istram | even then, cloud-init has probably the worst documentation I've seen aside Bluez. | 11:12 |
| OpenTokix | istram: my experience is that if you follow the debian file structure. - IE dont edit files in /usr/ apart from /usr/local - and have sensible dpkg-defaults - it will be a painless upgrade. | 11:21 |
| istram | nivv: guess the last message from OpenTokix was for you :) | 11:33 |
| nivv | istram thanks :) | 11:33 |
| nivv | so scary though.. | 11:33 |
| nivv | with no staging server :/ | 11:33 |
| istram | nivv: I also find the dist upgrade to work fine, just make sure you follow the documentation. | 11:34 |
| nivv | hm yea, | 11:34 |
| istram | there can possibly be lots of ifs and buts and not every service may go without configuration update. | 11:34 |
| istram | better count with bigger service window... | 11:35 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: Have you built it your self, - or is it some legacy system? | 11:35 |
| nivv | yea | 11:35 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: It's a hosted vps | 11:35 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: ok | 11:35 |
| nivv | but the kernel is 2.6.32-042stab090.4 x86_64 | 11:35 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: so its xen or some other paravirt-stuff. | 11:36 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: can't you get a second VPS and migrate to that? | 11:36 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: migrating seems to be even more work tbh, lots of websites running on it | 11:37 |
| nivv | but if we can keep the same IP maybe it could work | 11:37 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: Do your vps-company offer snapshots? | 11:37 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: they offer full backups, and you can restore to whichever of the full backups, so technically yes | 11:38 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: do a snapshot, - upgrade, make sure it works | 11:38 |
| nivv | Yup! open | 11:39 |
| nivv | OpenTokix will the kernel be upgraded as well? | 11:39 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: if its xen or other paravirt, no | 11:39 |
| OpenTokix | since your system is running the kernel of the dom0 | 11:39 |
| nivv | OpenTokix should I be worried about that? | 11:39 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: no | 11:39 |
| nivv | Goodie! | 11:39 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: your upgrade is focused around the userland-software. - Ie. webserver etc. | 11:40 |
| nivv | OpenTokix indeed | 11:40 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: kernel is the program that just keep the intrastructure for disk-communication etc. | 11:40 |
| nivv | OpenTokix ah! cool, I'm going to try to upgrade on my server at home now, see what happens, basically the same software on both | 11:40 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: have fun | 11:41 |
| nivv | OpenTokix thanks for the (calming) help! :) | 11:41 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: I once did a scripted dist-upgrade accross 40 hosts - I have a big trust in dist-upgrade | 11:41 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: since I always do everything the "debuntu-way" so to speak | 11:41 |
| Walex | OpenTokix: your trust is well places. Debian and Canonical spend quite a bit of effort in producing smoothly-upgradeable packages... | 11:42 |
| nivv | Coolio! Only reason I'm upgrading is actually because PHP 5.6 isn't available on 12.04 | 11:42 |
| OpenTokix | Walex: yes, - I like it | 11:42 |
| ikonia | wom 1 | 11:46 |
| ikonia | oops | 11:46 |
| jamespage | zul, I'm going to ask for your oslo-log upload to be rejected | 11:51 |
| jamespage | zul, Debian will use a different source package name and I want to ensure we don't break ourselves next cycle | 11:52 |
| jamespage | zul, policy and log will be tweaked uploads from debian vcs (not uploaded in Debian just yet) | 11:52 |
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| zul | jamespage: thats fine with me | 12:03 |
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| nivv | Anyone here? | 12:45 |
| Sling | plenty of people :) | 12:46 |
| nivv | I just did a do-release upgrade and now I got a message that grub couldn't be installed on /dev/sda | 12:46 |
| nivv | What gives? | 12:46 |
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| OpenTokix | nivv: since you ar running a paravirt vps, grub isnt needed really | 12:49 |
| nivv | OpenTokix; this is on my server at home though. | 12:49 |
| Sling | leave your question here and people will attack it | 12:50 |
| nivv | (sorry for the swedish) https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3x0y6eppypqb5n/Sk%C3%A4rmklipp%202015-03-23%2013.50.05.png?dl=0 | 12:50 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: oh, and it is /dev/sda ? | 12:50 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: try to run update-grub2 from a shell | 12:50 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: (Im swedish, so no worries) | 12:50 |
| nivv | ok, OpenTokix, should I press "yes" or "no"? | 12:51 |
| nivv | maybe this is because I did a dry run? | 12:51 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: oh, its a dry-run | 12:51 |
| nivv | yea.. | 12:51 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: press yes, and then do it manually later | 12:51 |
| nivv | it's kind of weird. I'm pretty confident I did a dry run but during the install my sites are down on my homeserver | 12:52 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: got this when doing "update-grub2" | 12:55 |
| nivv | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: fel: failed to get canonical path of `none'. | 12:55 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: hmmm, weird | 12:56 |
| nivv | maybe because I'm still in the sandbox? Maybe I should try to reboot and see if I'm on 12.04 | 12:56 |
| OpenTokix | if you did dry-run, nothing was changes | 12:57 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: turns out I wasn't and I can't connect after the reboot >_< Probably have grub error at home now! | 13:09 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: you did it via ssh? | 13:09 |
| nivv | yes | 13:09 |
| nivv | OpenTokix ^ | 13:10 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: I guessyou have to connect a monitor now and troubleshoot your homemachine | 13:11 |
| sohail-ahmed | I am unable to scan from a network printer. Would any body help. xsane gives device is busy, thanks!!! | 13:21 |
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| pmatulis | is it turned on? | 13:35 |
| nivv | OpenTokix yup! | 13:37 |
| nivv | OpenTokix btw, when I try to SSH into the box I immediately get connect to host domain.com port 22: Connection refused | 13:40 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: probably machine is booted, somewhat has ip and such - but no services is running. - My guess is you have gotten your devices mixed up somehow. - Do you have multiple disks in the machine - or a usb-stick connected or something. | 13:41 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: I got a mdadm raid | 13:41 |
| nivv | + and OS disk, nothing else, and a printer via USB | 13:42 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: oh, ok | 13:42 |
| nivv | OpenTokix: you think it's trying to boot the raid array instead of the OS disk? | 13:43 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: yes - sounds like it | 13:44 |
| nivv | probably the reason I got the grub error | 13:45 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: sounds like it | 13:45 |
| nivv | hm, we'll see! | 13:45 |
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| nivv | OpenTokix: got this error btw when doing the upgrade | 13:53 |
| nivv | https://www.dropbox.com/s/l72lghpn9c6ms4x/Sk%C3%A4rmklipp%202015-03-23%2014.53.05.png?dl=0 | 13:53 |
| OpenTokix | nivv: not sure what happened | 13:54 |
| nivv | Seems to have stopped at grub-pc though? | 13:54 |
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| nvez- | How can I report a bug regression? | 14:49 |
| nvez- | This started appearing again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1346917 .. running 3.13.0-46-generic | 14:49 |
| rbasak | nvez-: if the previous bug was fixed but has now regressed, then please file a new bug. You could also mention the new bug in the old bug, and also mention it in #ubuntu-kernel. | 14:51 |
| nvez- | Thanks rbasak ! | 14:52 |
| rbasak | nvez-: no problem. One of the tags from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags#Regression_specific might also be appropriate. | 14:53 |
| rbasak | (for your new bug) | 14:53 |
| nvez- | got it! :) | 14:54 |
| hallyn | rbasak: hey, is the fix for bug 1432683 ready? | 14:59 |
| rbasak | hallyn: sorry, I didn't realise I was supposed to be driving that. No real progress since we last spoke - haven't had an ack from anyone else, and no idea about reverse deps that might need to be fixed. | 15:09 |
| rbasak | I can poke people and start grepping the archive I suppose. | 15:10 |
| jamespage | zul, most things are building now - https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/ubuntu/kilo/+packages | 15:23 |
| zul | jamespage: cool just fixing trove | 15:24 |
| jamespage | zul, the ~= versioning in requirements is being fixed upstream - created an issue in glance | 15:25 |
| zul | jamespage: ack | 15:25 |
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| hallyn | rbasak: if you prefer i take it over that's fine - i just thought yo uowned it, and had a good solution :) | 15:49 |
| rbasak | hallyn: I've just started grepping the archive for apparmor-init-parser | 15:49 |
| rbasak | Er, apparmor-profile-load | 15:49 |
| hallyn | so we never figured out what is causing things like lxc and cgmanager to transatively depend on init-scripts-helper or whatever it's called? | 15:51 |
| hallyn | (init-system-helpers) | 15:51 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure anything does transitively depend on it | 15:51 |
| hallyn | lxc's packaging doesn't list it, but apt-cache show shows it depending on it | 15:51 |
| rbasak | infinity suggested that dh_installinit (IIRC) should grep the init scripts and add a dependency on init-system-helpers dynamically (using ${misc:Depends} | 15:51 |
| teward | anyone know what can cause a ssh login to take an age before it drops me to a shell? | 15:51 |
| rbasak | ) | 15:51 |
| rbasak | But we'd need to know which sources to rebuild even after I made that change | 15:52 |
| rbasak | So I'm grepping everything to find out | 15:52 |
| rbasak | I suspect the actual list is quite small. | 15:52 |
| hallyn | k | 15:52 |
| hallyn | thanks! | 15:52 |
| rbasak | No problem. | 15:52 |
| rbasak | hallyn: btw, I'm not sure that this grep will finish in a realistic amount of time. I'll check progress after an hour or so to work out an estimate. | 15:53 |
| rbasak | (I'm running pull-lp-source in a looP) | 15:53 |
| hallyn | seems like we'd have a lxr style site for that :) | 15:54 |
| hallyn | sources.debian.org style | 15:54 |
| rbasak | 200/23816 sources done now | 15:55 |
| rbasak | Maybe ~20 hours then. | 15:56 |
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| sarnold | jamespage: sorry for the slow reply, three day weekend was nice though; I reall ylike the idea of disabling build-time requirement and moving repoze.who to a suggests; that seems like a good approach | 16:43 |
| jamespage | sarnold, good cause I uploaded that an hour ago :-) | 16:43 |
| jamespage | sarnold, I need to sort-out the unit test suite with xmlsec1 and then I think its all good to go to main | 16:44 |
| sarnold | jamespage: yay! thanks :) | 16:44 |
| shodan45 | if I want a private network between 2 KVM vms, do I need a bridge on the host? | 16:48 |
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| sconklin | gaughen, utlemming: 14.04.2 has shipped, but Amazon hasn't updated their AMIs yet, any reason? | 17:54 |
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| utlemming | sconklin: are you talking about the quickstart images ? | 17:54 |
| sconklin | utlemming: let me get a clarification from the person who asked me? | 17:57 |
| sconklin | utlemming: specifically, why doesn't this page reflect .02? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ | 17:59 |
| utlemming | sconklin: ah, okay, fixing that now | 17:59 |
| sconklin | cool, thanks | 17:59 |
| utlemming | sconklin: fwiw, 14.04.2 is utterly meaningless in the context of a cloud image. 14.04.2 is a snapshot (release + updates) in time, well the cloud images uses a serial and has more freuent releases. The only reason we do put 14.04.x is because people expect it. | 18:01 |
| utlemming | sconklin: for this reason, future LTS's won't have cloud image point releases. We want to eliminate the confusion. | 18:02 |
| sconklin | utlemming: so to get to the equivalent of a point release in cloud, one should change to the HWE kernel package and just stay updated? | 18:03 |
| utlemming | sconklin: correct | 18:03 |
| sconklin | cool. That also means not having to wait for the 'release' | 18:04 |
| utlemming | sconklin: right. Often times we have the packages that will make the point release before the it is generally released sans the HWE kernel | 18:05 |
| utlemming | sconklin: I hope to get this confusion fixed in time for 16.04. | 18:05 |
| sconklin | that would be nice. | 18:05 |
| utlemming | sconklin: the contentious bit is whether cloud images should use the HWE kernel by default. That sticking point is rather...polarizing. | 18:05 |
| sconklin | I can see both sides of that one myself | 18:06 |
| utlemming | sconklin: I really wish that there was a good answer to it | 18:07 |
| sconklin | well, there's no one answer. Different people want different things. The naming has gotten convoluted and doesn't make sense in some cases. | 18:08 |
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| sconklin | example: What does "hardware enablement" mean if I only run in VMs? | 18:08 |
| utlemming | which is generally valid, until you consider VM's. VMware and Hyper-V have all had interesting changes in their kernel support such that "hardware enablement" is actually meaningful | 18:09 |
| utlemming | and then you have things like Multiqueue for KVM instances | 18:10 |
| utlemming | so, yeah, even though "hardware" is the verb, the new feature enablement is actually what is needed | 18:10 |
| sconklin | exactly. And in our case, it's OverlayFS that we care about (this time). | 18:11 |
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| wedgwood | I'm seeing behavior in trusty that looks precisely like this old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/285897 | 18:53 |
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| wiredfool | just upgraded to trusty, and I'm getting a uvt sumplestreams error when updating. This worked on precise last week. http://pastebin.com/6K95PPKR | 19:32 |
| sarnold | wiredfool: wild-guess time, could you check dmesg or /var/log/audit/audit.log for apparmor DENIED lines? | 19:36 |
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| wiredfool | sarnold: nope, nothing there | 19:42 |
| sarnold | wiredfool: bummer. well,that's overall good, but it does mean I don't know what to suggest next. sorry. | 19:43 |
| wiredfool | was afraid of that | 19:46 |
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| wiredfool | sarnold: I think the essential problem is that I have 5 metadata entries and 10 base images | 19:59 |
| wiredfool | sarnold: wound up converting the images I care about to not use a backing store, then blowing away the simplestreams store using uvt-simplestreams-libvirt purge | 20:36 |
| devster31 | hi, I need to keep both libcurl4-gnutils-dev and it's :i386 version, is it possible? | 20:48 |
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