=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [02:24] done it again [06:19] o/ [06:19] anyone actually awake yet? [06:20] @time london [06:20] jussi: hello [06:21] gday mr nigelb, long time no see [06:21] jussi: hah, same to you :) [06:21] * jussi wonders if AlanBell is around... [06:21] * nigelb hasn't seen AlanBell in a long time [06:22] o/ [06:23] hi jussi:D [06:24] oh dear, its mapp!!! RUN!!! :P :P [06:24] yes [06:24] :D [06:25] you still in the Finland jussi? [06:25] :) [06:31] nope... [06:31] am now in australia [06:32] jussi: visiting? Or you've moved back? [06:32] moved [06:32] Oh wow. [06:32] No wonder I haven't seen you around. [06:32] :) [06:33] what [06:33] wow [06:33] jussi you moved from finland to aus?!?! [06:34] yes [06:34] nice:DDD [06:34] from fridge to the oven... [06:34] forever? [06:34] or a visa for so long? [06:34] zmoylan-pi: from the freezer to the oven... [06:34] mapp: I am an aussie, I can be here for as long as I feel like... [06:35] ah [06:35] i thought you were a finn:) [06:35] and I never say forever, just "lets see" [06:36] did you move on your own jussi? [06:36] i.m sure an aeroplane was involved :-P [06:37] i mean no familt or partner;p [06:37] family [06:37] i thought jussi was finnish === mapp is now known as mappps === mappps is now known as mapps [07:22] hey everyone [07:23] hey [07:44] hi mapps [07:44] and morning [07:46] er hi elfy [07:47] never seen you here before:D [07:47] well I used to be here - then wasn't - now am ;) [07:47] :) [07:49] im not even uk anymore [07:49] well am i?> whats it clased as here [07:49] gib [07:49] not a clue - not sure anyone would worry [07:50] :D [07:51] if Gib isn't counted as GB, then I'm Maltese :p [07:51] ive switched south london to gib [07:51] and im still doing the same [07:51] smoke too much drink too much:P [07:51] I'd switch London for anywhere too [07:52] but im a south london boy:) [07:52] always will be [07:53] its a dump [07:54] and i know that but i love se1:) [07:59] morning all [08:00] morninb [08:02] morning MooDoo [08:03] too tired to type in russian;/ [08:07] howdy elfy how are you on this fine day? [08:08] grumbling at the outside - but other than that all's good :) [08:08] :) [08:09] i sometimes find it hard to translate all the time...eng -> ger eng -> rusian [08:09] why cant everyone speak eng [08:10] I find it hard translating eng > eng at times [08:10] ;] [08:10] I wish people would talk proper like what i does ;) [08:10] i talk properly here [08:11] in other channels maybe my language skills are wong: [08:12] no idea, I don't use #ubuntu-de :p [08:13] #ubuntu-de and #'ubuntu-ru;p [08:13] my german is better than my russian [08:41] I don't think Cities: Skylines works as well on my Linux as it does on hubby's Mac :-< [08:41] morning boys and girls. [08:43] Myrtti_: since I havent spoken to you in ages, congratulations :) [08:44] jussi: thank you :-) === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [08:45] a jussi appears [08:46] hi popey [08:50] heya popey, long time no see :) [08:51] Myrtti: the FB pics were stunning :) [08:51] jussi i sent you a pm;/ [08:52] they ought to be, I'm expecting a considerable bill from him :-) [08:52] mapps: ive been lazy, and Im nearish to melbourne [08:54] sometimes open erp/odoo confunds me... [08:54] +o [08:54] aha cool:D [08:57] so jussi you arent finnish? [08:57] just briefly adopted the Finnish lifestyle [08:57] he's lapsed back to his native form now. [08:58] "for now" [08:58] ;) [08:58] so where were you born jussi? [08:58] but nice with the aus mov [08:58] in australia... [08:58] move [08:58] oh [08:59] less interesting now;p [08:59] thought you were a fin [08:59] you got dual citizenship? [09:00] * jussi goes away... === michelle is now known as Guest73666 === Guest73666 is now known as msm__ [09:24] Morning all [09:33] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Near Miss Day! :-D [09:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Mondays [09:35] is that an oxymoron? [09:36] zmoylan-pi, the happy Monday, or the happy Near Miss Day? ;) [09:36] my 5yr old had a melt down even before getting dressed today [09:36] they learn so young these days :'-) [09:37] foobarry, when I was riding back from school, I passed a mother with her son over her shoulder, carrying him to school. [09:37] hehe [09:38] It sounded like he'd had a full-on meltdown and had thrown himeself on the ground and refused to move. [09:39] sounds like you're having fun JamesTait :) [09:39] when i carried my nephew anywhere because he was misbehaving i carried him like a bag of spuds under my arm. not as easy but more humiliating for him. he learned fast [09:39] usually he loves school. the other day in the playground, all the kids got to go outside and were given chalk to draw whatever they wanted. some kids drew flowers, rainbows, unicorns, my son led my wife to a corner where he proudly showed her a nicely formatted table of sums 10+10=20 , 7+3=10 etc [09:39] foobarry: This is why a sound-proof box on wheels is so useful. [09:40] Oh gods...he's going to be an accountant! [09:40] i don't think my son is aspie but he shares certain common tendencies [09:40] MooDoo, my eldest came in to wake me at 7:25 this morning because he "thought it was 8 o'clock or something and we were going to be late." [09:41] he told the teacher the other day he wanted to learn to build stable buildings. i think he just likes learning atm [09:41] but maths is the favourite, like his father, and his father before him [09:41] Nothing wrong with that. [09:41] JamesTait: mine was up at 6:30 as he wasn't tired any more. [09:42] esp. while my fb feed is full of mums incorrectly claiming that kids don't learn stuff at school in scandie countries until age X === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:42] MooDoo: 0630? Plenty of time to wash the dishe, brush the cat, take out the rubbish and dust the low shelves! [09:42] MooDoo, I think that was my youngest. Mom woke me while she was getting ready for work around 6:40, and when she went downstairs I heard his voice. [09:43] TwistedLucidity++ [09:43] JamesTait: Can you tell that I don't have kids? :-P [09:44] Not really, TwistedLucidity - I have two, and still say the same kind of things several times a day. [09:54] Are there any tablets I can do a regular install of Ubuntu on? I need to do a touchscreen demo of something and dedicated kiosk hardware is far too expensive for prototyping. [09:55] Oli``, You'd need an x86 tablet for a regular install. [09:55] Something designed to run full-fat Windows (not RT) is probably your best bet [09:56] Alternately, you might be able to simulate it by putting VNC on a tablet [09:57] One of those Asus multitouch netbook convertible things might be an idea, or another laptop with a touchscreen like a Del M3800 [09:58] You might be able to get an XPS13 second hand on eBay [09:58] amazon seems to be full of uber cheap torches and monoculars that i can't resist buying [09:59] me and my android tablet are not rabbits of positive euphoria... flippin thing won't install some apps for some reason. i'd love a ubuntu tablet. [10:02] didn't knightwise buy a microsoft tablet and get good performance from ubuntu on it? [10:02] didn't they have problems only with suspend? [10:03] everything else worked ok [10:03] dunno [10:03] hence asking === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [10:36] yay got my ubuntu server + glusterfs setup working :D [11:05] popey: I recall someone mentioning having put ubuntu on one, but don't remember who it was [11:06] it would be in the logs if someone has access to them === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:13] BOO. http://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/2yqggj/potential_fixes_for_your_game_issues/cpcg1hk *snif* === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [11:28] JamesTait: nearly missed your morning greeting I was busy restoring my pc after a fresh vivid install :D [11:29] morning davmor2 [11:30] MooDoo: I've been on for a while just busy, nice write up on 14.04 gluster by the way, didn't really read just a scan but is seemed well thought out, I'll have a proper read tonight [11:33] * JamesTait is still on Utopic. [11:34] davmor2: i expect lots of comments as it was a rushed post from my bash history, but yeah it works well :) [11:34] \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ https://twitter.com/popey/status/579969203693838336 [11:34] stop teasing popey [11:35] Nope, never! [11:35] popey: bag [11:35] a bq box? [11:35] popey: bah [11:35] meh, I've got plenty of boxes [11:35] popey: did you get an email saying it had been dispatched? [11:36] nope [11:36] just turned up [11:36] AIUI they shipped on friday [11:36] I see [11:37] Then the next 3 days of be being at the company office will be annoying [11:37] which reminds me. I should try ubuntu touch again [11:37] so is it actually possible to buy an ubuntu phone currently? or did they just sell a couple of hundred and then stop? [11:37] ali1234: they do flash sales [11:38] so "no" then? [11:38] ali1234: don't know how many at a time, but I've been bq tweet a few times [11:38] sorry officer i was speeding to get home to buy a phone :-P [11:38] popey: bad news, you're holding it upside down. That box is actually from ɯoɔ˙bq˙ʍʍʍ [11:38] ali1234: "currently" no, but if you follow bq on twitter, you'll see them announce the next flash sales [11:38] open source. https://twitter.com/directhex/status/579970510584438784 [11:40] hah, i do that all the time [11:41] s/couple of hundred/some thousands/ but yeah, flash sales apparently [11:42] directhex: It's more fun when I see a pull request. From me. [11:43] hah! [11:43] :) [11:43] brilliant [11:52] What twitter clinets do people use on their Ubuntu boxes? Currently using hotot which is okay but crashes randomly [11:53] Web page [11:53] diplo: a web page [11:53] i use tweetdeck in browser [11:53] diplo: or the webapp on my phone [11:53] and i do have a command line client set up on rasp pi but i haven't used it in ages and can't remember it's name [11:54] Don't really like the webpage, used to use tweetdeck but not in a few years [11:54] Just about to install vivid and was going to try something different [11:54] I like tthe cli, but I think twitter under cli is a step too far :D [11:55] eh? http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/news/no-more-unlocking-your-phone-will-soon-stay-unlocked-your-pocket [11:55] but you set the text to green on a black background and you feel all hackery :-P [11:55] yeah i use tweetdeck too [11:55] diplo: just use the web-app :) [11:55] * diplo trys tweetdeck before reinstall! [11:56] i often use plume an android beside my computer to spare a little of the cpu on ancient netbook [11:56] I might try vivid, I use ubuntu gnome so it will be nice to see what that's like [11:56] zmoylan-pi: why do you still use such an underpowered "monster"? [11:56] :-p [11:56] because it runs for 12+ hours on battery :-) [11:57] MooDoo: too fast for you good sir too fast for you :) [11:57] zmoylan-pi: I'm betting my phone is more powerful :-D [11:57] for ~levels of 'run' :-D [11:57] davmor2: I can handle it, might even give it more ram coz i can [11:57] but does it have a real keyboard, 10" screen and 200+gb of storage? [11:57] and run lubuntu quite nicely [11:58] MooDoo: you might want to try ubuntu-next for the fun of it too, I'd do that from lxc or something though :) [11:59] MooDoo: or just the live session :) [11:59] davmor2: I'll stick with what I have thank you very much, now that i'm not running any windows at all in my house [11:59] davmor2: i removed windows 10 and turn my backup server from windows 7 to debian [11:59] MooDoo: doesn't that get a bit draughty? [11:59] apart from his windows which run glassOS :-) [12:00] diddledan: only up my kilt [12:00] MooDoo: what has anything I've said got to do with Windows? [12:01] MooDoo: Ubuntu-next is unity8 desktop cd [12:01] davmor2: sorry me thinking about 10 things at once. [12:01] MooDoo: Man don't try that you only have the capacity for 1 :P [12:02] davmor2: just reading up on it [12:02] davmor2: you're not wrong this morning :D [12:02] MooDoo: you won't want to use it as a daily driver currently I don't think, but it is fun as a preview of how the work is progressing :) [12:03] davmor2: when i upgrade my ram in my laptop i'll give it a go :D [12:03] although i did promise myself i'd stop all this playing about [12:08] I prefer goats [12:08] I've got a lot of goat in my computer [12:09] hehe [12:23] hey diddledan , MooDoo [12:23] MooDooni [12:23] err [12:23] ello knightwise [12:23] diddledan: what you wanted to say was "i perfer looking at goats on my computer" [12:23] lol [12:24] diddledan: you gone nuts mate ;) [12:24] I think it was a strange tab-complete fail [12:24] that's what I'm gonna go with, anyway [12:24] lol [12:25] MooDooni sounds like an illusionist [12:25] diddledan: first i'm here === MooDoo is now known as MooDooni [12:25] diddledan: now i'm not lol === MooDooni is now known as MooDoo [12:25] lol [12:26] nutter! [12:26] :D [12:26] I saw you do the switch, tho [12:27] i should of quit the channel first [12:27] I like how penn & teller used to show you how a trick was done, and then to prove it they'd do it again... differently [12:43] nearly feeding time at the zoo [12:44] ook? [12:44] ook??? [12:44] oooook!! [12:44] is that a new animal? [12:44] MooDoo: it's magic but not a lot [12:44] we need more Librarians [12:44] we need less oiks [12:45] but ooks are ok [12:45] * diddledan looks in a book for an ook [12:45] try discworld [12:46] see elite:dangerous have added a new space station called "pratchett's disc"? [12:46] is it supported by elephants? [12:46] I'm sure they had a petition [12:47] 60% elephants were in favour iirc [12:47] but not the fifth elephant for obvious reasons [12:47] obviously [12:49] now being insane reminds me. christmas is the time when you should lock up any insane people - because the sanity claws come down the chimney [12:51] is it past your bedtime? [12:51] he forgot to take his dried frog pills again [12:52] shauno: shush you! [12:52] I'll take that as a yes :) [12:53] :-p [12:54] as I said earlier. zoo. [12:55] I think the randomness is a byproduct of being entrenched in gentoo right now [12:56] that's what you say when you return something faulty: bye, product! [12:56] kinda like "bye, fufu" [13:01] meh, I can't find a clip of that [13:01] it's in repossessed me thinks === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:31] hmm.. by the looks of it not a lot of progress has been made with the drivers for the new dell XPS 13 [13:45] knightwise: it's in progress [13:46] we have people working on it === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:54] popey: cool. I'm waiting for the support to be completed before I get one of them. Been looking at a companion machine for my mac for a while now [13:55] Dunno the ETA. [13:55] Currently using my Surface pro 1 running ubuntu , the keyboard is not very practical. [13:55] I have at least 3 months to go at my currentl client so I don't need to buy one right away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:47] Anyone about [14:47] no [14:49] Received my bq Ubuntu phone today and. Hardly even. Done anything with it and already gone wrong it seems so stuck on the Ubuntu logo now [14:50] Sebsebsebb: you can probably press and hold the power button to force a reboot, not that it's a proper solution but yea [14:50] hint, the full-stop (dot) doesn't work like you think it does [14:50] Sebsebsebb: what was it doing before that? [14:51] it might be a botched update? [14:51] though afaict the update system is pretty well tested these days? [14:52] Sebsebsebb: is this first boot? [14:52] lets find out what he was doing first before speculating :) [14:52] popey: indeed [14:53] you've got to speculate to accumulate :-p [14:53] I have no idea where I heard that [14:53] To the full stop thing I am messaging from a tablet at the moment so there may be certain mistakes as a result pluses going to be slower to reply as a result to [14:54] fairy fluff [14:54] err. fairy nuff? [14:54] * daftykins strolls back in [14:54] I was being an ass, anyway [14:54] forgot i restarted for that openssl update - or whatever it was [14:55] ,no this is a boot after it's already been properly booted up I think [14:55] how long has it been sat like that? [14:55] and is it a tiny ubuntu logo or a big one? [14:55] and what were you doing before hand? [14:56] It crashed after I gave it a good look around [14:57] so probably unity8 or mir crashed [14:57] reboot it. [14:57] (hold down power till you get blinded by a bq logo) [14:57] is it v. bright? [14:57] i haven't even taken mine out of the box yet [14:57] it's black on a white background [14:58] eep [14:58] diddledan: the initial BQ logo on the phone is [14:58] imagine your display being off, then suddenly being on, full brightness, white [14:58] Was working ok and then this with the Ubuntu logo in centre of screen [14:58] sounds like the apple logo used to be on my mbp [14:58] aah, it didn't reboot [14:59] Yes I was thinking something had crashed on software, [14:59] popey's prolly right [14:59] popey is rather awesome, though, so we tend to trust him ;-) [14:59] lulz [14:59] davmor2 crashes phones more then me [14:59] diddledan: I never trust popey never :) [14:59] lol [15:00] so we've got davmor2 the phonekiller and daftykins the disckiller [15:00] Where's my spy camera? [15:00] diddledan: oh no I killz allz the softwarez [15:00] davmor2: that's not very nice of you [15:01] diddledan: I'm QA [15:01] Can't just take the battery out of this phone it seems and put back in as for. Trying to re boot with buttons not worked when tried before so I'll try again [15:01] yeah, but still, imagine you were a nice happy software prog and then a big mean and nasty davmor2 came along and squished you!?! [15:01] Order #40001710 - could be waiting a while [15:02] bigcalm: they prolly started their numbering on 40000000 [15:02] ;) [15:02] so yours is the 1710th :-p [15:02] Could still be waiting a while [15:02] Sebsebsebb: press volume up and power button for 10 seconds+ when the light is red release the volume button and tap the power button [15:02] That's a lot of trips to the post office [15:02] Would be good if could take battery out like my other phones but no not this one [15:04] Inhad in back in mind that they were going to apparantly start shipping out on Friday but didn't expect to get today [15:05] Also I got mine on the second flash sale day [15:06] will firefox run on ubuntu touch? What's the default browser? [15:06] no [15:07] So thought it was something else being delivered [15:07] oxide, based on chromium frameworks [15:07] aha === zmoylan-pi is now known as alpaca01 [15:11] technically firefox could run under xmir I guess [15:11] but that's quite a hefty thing to be running [15:11] Still mot re booting [15:12] MOT! That's what I needed to book! [15:12] Sebsebsebb: what state is it in right now? [15:13] Volumme up down and power buttons nothing [15:14] just hold power button for a long time [15:14] thats all [15:14] until things light up [15:14] Spinning Ubuntu logo in centre of black screen [15:15] that sounds like progress [15:16] Basically it went from fully working to that [15:16] yay phones === alpaca01 is now known as zmoylan-pi [15:18] I'll set up oroperly on wifi and with sim in it to when I get working again do an os update to if there is one [15:18] zoinks, Scoob - i just saw an alpaca turn into zmoylan-pi [15:18] bad flash memory? [15:18] Was doing a first look around [15:18] Sebsebsebb: ok, leave it alone [15:18] while the spinning logo does its thing [15:19] Well it's stuck on thT [15:19] And that's the issue [15:20] how long has it been on that since you booted it up just now? [15:20] Since it crashed yeah [15:20] Finding this difficult to debug with short answers like that. [15:21] Did you reboot the phone Y/N ? [15:21] Half an hour or something now [15:21] Did you reboot it since you started talking to us? (Y/N) ? [15:21] Sebsebsebb: ^ [15:25] since originally havering on it's been re booted but that was the set up I was going to put a sim in and then decided to do that later so completed set up and took a look around the os but I think it may have been turned on again or re booted after originally setting up but u don't remember [15:25] Did you reboot it since you started talking to us (Y/N) ? [15:25] No [15:25] Reboot it. [15:26] Hold down the power button for longer than you think you need to. [15:26] Rebooting doesn't so [15:26] wat? [15:26] Work when I try to [15:26] hold the power button for longer [15:27] Oh ok works to re boot this time [15:27] There we go. [15:28] It really wasn't before though [15:28] Well it is now, which is super. [15:28] leave it, and after a couple of mins you should get the welcome thing. [15:29] Yeah back in it now [15:29] \o/ [15:29] suh-weet [15:29] So where's the App Store hidden away [15:30] It crashed when I was trying to find it before [15:31] Sebsebsebb: scroll down the bottom of the apps scope [15:32] Does anyone know if anyones doing anything in manchester for the Document freedom day? [15:32] Yeah the apps scope where's that [15:32] Sebsebsebb: it's the one with the apps [15:32] Network [15:32] Settings etc [15:33] Sebsebsebb: no scroll from the middle to the right 3 time and you'll be on the apps scope [15:33] Left panell browser etc but I see no app scope [15:33] it has "Apps" at the top [15:34] Sebsebsebb: the scope is the main screen unless you opened an app [15:34] http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-03-23-153356.png [15:34]