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[00:53] <xubuntu062> hay uwu
[00:54] <xubuntu062> Nobody luvs me
[00:54] <xubuntu062> I'm installing Xubuntu
[00:54] <xubuntu062> But xfce hates me
[00:58] <fantasai> hi! Iḿ having trouble with my keyboard layout. I tried changing the setting in the settings manager, and that worked if I changed it to something else and changed it back again. But then it stops working when I reboot
[00:58] <fantasai> I also then tried to reconfigure through dpkg, but that also didn't last the reboot
[00:58] <xubuntu062> gr8 b8 m8 8/8 IGN
[00:59] <fantasai> It was working fine before I dropped the computer
[00:59] <fantasai> but I'm pretty confused how dropping the computer would change the keyboard layout...
[00:59] <fantasai> esp. to something that's not en-US
[00:59] <fantasai> (Itś been set to US- International with dead keys)
[00:59] <fantasai> Is there something else I should try?
[00:59] <xubuntu062> Try running the live cd
[01:00] <xubuntu062> And setting up the keyboard
[01:00] <fantasai> in the live cd environment? How would that persist on my computer?
[01:01] <xubuntu062> Because the installation may save the configs as default
[01:01] <fantasai> oh, you want me to reinstall it
[01:01] <xubuntu062> I'm the best quickscoper m8
[01:01] <fantasai> not just to run the livecd and change it in there
[01:01] <xubuntu062> Not really
[01:01] <xubuntu062> You can try both
[01:03] <xubuntu062> d
[01:03] <xubuntu062> Loominarty
[01:03]  * fantasai thinks it makes more sense to figure out the right config files and fix them directly
[01:04] <xubuntu062> idk try all the options
[01:04]  * xubuntu062 
[01:05]  * xubuntu062 thinks that his sexual orientation is not clear.
[01:05] <xubuntu062> m8
[01:05] <xubuntu062> gr8
[01:05] <xubuntu062> FazeClan
[01:08] <fantasai> The correct file was /etc/default/keyboard, it needed manual editing because it wasn't set correctly.
[01:13] <SuperSumo> Can anyone help me get whiskermenu installed in 13.10?
[01:14] <SuperSumo> It seems the PPA has been disabled for 13.10
[01:15] <krytarik> !13.10 | SuperSumo
[01:15] <ubottu> SuperSumo: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) was the 19th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 17th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/saucy
[01:15] <SuperSumo> I tried to upgrade today to 14.10 but there were problems with my mousewheel in games so I downgraded again and now whiskermenu is gone.
[01:15] <SuperSumo> Yeah I know it's no longer supported, but I had whiskermenu installed at one point
[01:16] <SuperSumo> There is an extremely annoying bug in Xorg with 14.04+ which makes the mousewheel bind to the same mouse buttons as the side buttons in certain games.
[01:17] <SuperSumo> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74713
[01:17] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 74713 in Server/Input/Core "upgrade to xserver-xorg 1.15 causing issues with mousewheel in some games" [Normal,New]
[01:18] <SuperSumo> Yeah, that one
[01:27] <SuperSumo> I'm guessing everyone that's spoken to me so far is a bot. :(
[01:27] <krytarik> Nope.
[01:33] <SuperSumo> oh
[01:34] <SuperSumo> So no dice then? There isn't some deb file somewhere I can install from? I had it installed just 3 days ago.
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[02:06] <SuperSumo> :(
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[02:38] <Guest35366> Quick question, if I want a VNC server to fire up at system boot, what file do I edit or command do I throw to achieve it?
[02:39] <Guest35366> Running Xubuntu 14.04.
[02:44] <Guest35366> Is anyone here?
[04:56] <matthew__> hi, I googled how to fill zeros to my hard drive and found this command, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda". I added sudo to the front because it said i didn't have permission.
[04:57] <matthew__> it finished in a few minutes, i think because my hard drive was orginally encrypted and there were multiple partitions and I was wiping the first partition which was very small? so i deleted all the partitions so everything was unallocated and looked up on GParted to make sure it was all one block of unallocated space. did I get it right this second try?
[04:57] <matthew__> i real green when it comes to the terminal
[04:58] <Unit193> 'hda' is the entire drive, or should be.  Also, lsblk  will tell you which drive is the one you're looking for.
[05:00] <matthew__> lsblk is saying ''sda'', not hda. should that concern me?
[05:00] <matthew__> thanks i always had trouble finding my optical drive and it seems to have that listed too
[05:01] <Unit193> matthew__: Only if you want to hit the right drive.  You should be able to use cryptsetup to mount the encrypted volume, fwiw.
[05:01] <Unit193> Sometimes you'll get a cdrom/dvdrom or such link to it in /dev/
[05:02] <matthew__> thank you for the help
[05:02] <Unit193> See also, dban.
[05:02] <Unit193> And sure.
[05:02] <matthew__> okay.
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[11:51] <craigbass76> I threw kubuntu desktop on a machine to try something out, and I can't see any more packages related to KDE in synaptics; I think I erased them all.  But the xfce on this machine doesn't look the same as on my own machines.  Icons are different, color schemes are weird.  I reinstalled xubuntu-desktop, but it didn't seem to matter.
[12:20] <GridNet> craigbass76, delete the ~/.config/xfce4 directory and relog
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[12:44] <craigbass76> GridNet, well, I hadn't gotten there yet, but just noticed that after a reboot things look normal.  My nexst problem, which may have gone away with updates, is the mouse pointer randomly being gone after a wakeup.  I can still see that the pointer is working (stuff under it lights up) but can't see the pointer itself.  Ever heard of that?
[12:45] <GridNet> know issue
[12:45] <GridNet> bug 1303736
[12:45] <ubottu> bug 1303736 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303736
[12:46] <GridNet> you can go to a tty and back to recover the pointer
[12:48] <craigbass76> That doesn't seem to be the same issue.  I can see the screen fine, just no mouse pointer.  I've got light locker off.  I actually haven't had it happen to me since last night, so like I said, I wonder if an update fixed it.
[12:50] <craigbass76> But that issue sounds like my laptop -- can't see anything when I crack the lid back open.  I just type my pass and hit enter and I'm in.  For whatever reason, the lock screen is there, just not visible.  And it's inconsistent.  :)
[12:51] <GridNet> craigbass76, yes, they are related
[12:51] <GridNet> its the same issue
[12:51] <craigbass76> Does light locker seem to be the culprit
[13:06] <sohail-ahmed> I am unable to scan from a network printer. Would any body help. xsane gives device is busy
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[17:49] <puff> Good afternoon.
[17:50] <puff> I just rebuilt this ancient laptop for a friend, dell inspiron 6000, 1.3Ghz, 1GB RAM, 52GB of disk... about 30-35GB space free.  Winxp is slow as molasses on it, and unsupported by MS to boot, but I don't want to throw them into the deep end.  I want to install a dual boot linux on it so they can try it, but can fall back to windows instead of bugging me for tech support :-)
[17:51] <puff> Somebody recommended lubuntu because it's super light weight.  I run xubuntu myself, so I'm inclined to install the same so I know exactly what they're looking at when they call me with questions.
[17:51] <puff> Anybody have an idea what the relative performace of lubuntu vs. xubuntu is?
[17:52] <xangua> lubuntu is just a lighter desktop, performance depends on your computer and the programs you use
[17:52] <puff> xangua: How much lighter though?
[17:52] <puff> xangua: My understanding is that xubuntu is not just a lighter desktop (xfce) but also a selection of lighter default GUI apps (thunar instead of nautilus for file explorer, etc).
[17:53] <puff> Also, recently flash in xubuntu has stopped working, gives me a warning that it needs to be upgraded, which isn't going to happen because there is no upgrade for linux flash.  Is there any distro that side steps this?
[17:54] <puff> Hm: https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu
[17:57] <puff> I guess my real question is, is the difference between lubuntu and xubuntu enough (on the stated hardware, 1.3Ghz/1GB/35GB of HD) to make a significant difference?
[18:03] <bazhang> yes
[18:05] <puff> bazhang: Thanks.
[18:05] <bazhang> np
[19:46] <Lachezar> Hey all. Installed gnupg2, which installed gpg-agent. Now ssh-agent fails to start. How come?
[19:48] <genii> Probably bug 1407513
[19:48] <ubottu> bug 1407513 in gnupg2 (Ubuntu) "gpg-agent upstart script doesn't set SSH environment variables" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1407513
[19:49] <Lachezar> genii: I do not want to use gpg agent for SSH, since I use PKCS#11 for ssh keys. Can I disable the ssh part of the gnupg-agent?
[19:50] <genii> Lachezar: I'm not knowledgable in that area, sorry.
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[23:47] <melodie> hi
[23:51] <melodie> can someone tell me how come there is no grub-efi in the Xubuntu 14.04.2 live? (well it seems, when invoking apt-cache policy against grub-efi)
[23:51] <melodie> can someone lighten me?
[23:51] <melodie> ie: is it installed at the end when needed?
[23:52] <melodie> then it would mean if there isn't and internet connection, it could not be possible to get it?
[23:52] <melodie> how does that work, for gpt tables with uefi/efi boot?
[23:53] <melodie> I might come back tomorrow to ask again if I don't get an info here right on
[23:55] <Unit193> AMD64 images?  Because the 32bit ones wouldn't have them.  Also, check in /pool on the image.