=== duflu_ is now known as duflu === thumper is now known as thumper-dinner [06:59] good morning [07:03] good morning [07:07] good morning desktopers [07:07] hey Mirv, how are you? [07:09] hey seb128, blinded by a cruel natural phenomenon called sunlight, otherwise well! how about you? [07:10] I'm good thanks ;-) [07:17] Mirv: can you give a look and confirm me the vivid touch image has built? [07:23] didrocks: #146 has built (http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/146.changes), but rsalveti warned earlier that he had dist-upgraded after which his device didn't boot. my device is stuck with running autopilot tests that I don't want to abort so I haven't tested it yet. [07:26] Mirv: ok, keep me posted! the diff looks good and what I expect though [07:26] I guess the dist-upgade was on something else [07:27] it's possible [07:27] on mako I even apparently have that filesystem corruption still every now and then, resulting in non-bootability [07:27] how to avoid the guide on first login on desktop-next? [07:27] the bug is open too still (for mako only) [07:28] need to swipe, but the second swipe does not work anyway... [07:31] happyaron: on phone we use something like dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set string:com.canonical.unity.AccountsService string:demo-edges variant:boolean:false [08:46] g'morning [08:48] morning willcooke [08:51] hey willcooke [08:57] morning [08:57] hey mlankhorst [08:59] Hello,everyone,now i have a problem,when i connect to a printer,I got a erro like this:the cups server error,There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-bad-request'.,anyone can help me ? I am so appriciate! [09:00] yuzhaohua, hey, try #ubuntu for user questions [09:00] morning seb128 - quick question: I noticed that the bluetooth indicator appears mostly untranslated for me in my vivid desktop, although it's fully translated in LP. Do you happen to know if there have been any changes that could have caused that? [09:01] I don't see any unapproved templates on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/indicator-bluetooth/+imports [09:01] dpm, hey, it's correctly translated for me, what strings are untranslated for you? [09:04] seb128, that's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/mU77E7C.png [09:04] dpm, dunno what you are using, our bluetooth indicator is the one on the left of the blue message icon [09:04] I've noticed that the indicator icon itself changed from monochrome to greenish when I connected a bluetooth device [09:05] seb128,I knew,thank you. [09:05] dpm, I guess you have blueman or something there [09:06] I remember having to install it to be able to pair devices in utopic, but that didn't seem to have changed the standard indicator [09:06] I'll see if it's still installed and try if I can still do pairing after uninstalling it [09:06] thanks [09:07] dpm, well, the standard indicator is there on your screenshot, more on the right [09:07] ah, strange, I hadn't noticed it there before [09:07] dpm, yw, let us know how the pairing goes from our indicator [09:07] dpm, ;-) [09:36] sil2100, hey, could you look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1435348 ? [09:36] Ubuntu bug 1435348 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "qtcreator recently used file/project submenu empty" [Undecided,New] [09:49] mlankhorst, so today is your last day then, taking in to account holiday? :( [09:50] indeed [09:52] sad to see you go mlankhorst - be sure to pop in and say hi whenever you're passing [09:52] :) [09:52] I'll still try to bring up tegra this week, I'm so close to get it working [09:52] just the kernel module complaining a lot :P [09:53] Stupid kernels [09:53] Oh, did you see anything useful in that BT for the Xmir segfault? Likely to be an Android change? [09:53] I think so [09:53] was EGL updated on android or something? [09:53] or libhybris [09:54] Dunno - erm, maybe mzanetti do you know anything about that ^^ (egl, hybris) [09:54] hmm, no, sorry [09:54] TheMuso, are you still around? [09:55] mzanetti, nw [09:55] seb128: looking in a moment, still trying to locate stable wifi [09:55] sil2100, thanks ... travelling? ;-) [09:56] Power outage at home ;p [09:56] oh, ok [09:56] willcooke, weekly meeting reminder btw? [09:57] seb128, thanks for the reminder ;) [09:57] yw! [10:06] Laney, are you back today? [10:13] willcooke, no, he's off for the week [10:13] willcooke, see http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/20/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t17:04 [10:14] seb128, I screwed up the calendar entry [10:14] look from a few minutes back in the log [10:14] that's what we though ;-) [10:14] \o/ [10:14] In my defence, I was probably drunk. [10:15] lol === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [10:25] happyaron, attente_, what is running ibus-gtk-gtk3? it's trying to run on the unity8 desktop-next iso and that doesn't work since it tries to use x apis under mir [10:26] happyaron, attente_, also, on current vivid daily, in an english session, seems like u-c-c input panel doesn't list any ibus method (nor fcitx) is that normal? [11:15] seb128: it's running because of ibus-daemon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/im-config/+bug/1433831 [11:15] Ubuntu bug 1433831 in im-config (Ubuntu) "Upstart script doesn't export *_MODULE under Unity 8" [Medium,Fix released] === ara is now known as Guest75262 [12:46] didrocks: it seems the boot problem was not really a boot problem or at least others can't reproduce it [12:46] there's a lengthy apparmor run though for updaters === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:01] happyaron: hey, you can try uploading a new fcitx-qimpanel, that crash should be fixed now [13:35] didrocks: dist-upgrated made it install systemd because the ubuntu-touch-meta package didn't migrate for many hours [13:40] rsalveti: ah ok, making sense [13:44] Is there a summary anywhere of all the things that gnome-settings-daemon keeps track of, and/or all the dialogs/notifications/etc it can show? [13:55] mpt, https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/gnome-settings-daemon sort of has a list === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:57] mpt, what are you trying to determine? [13:58] mpt, I did a review of what needs to converge/what we need to find a solution for in 2013, it's in an ue@ list email "Re: Virtual sprint: mobile" if you are on this list, I can also fwd it to you if you want [13:58] I think most of it is still true [14:13] seb128: any objection to demote gnome-panel? That will greatly cleanup component-mismatches.txt and I see no reason to have it in main nowdays [14:14] it's not seeded by anything, not in our image, should be happily retire to universe [14:14] didrocks, it's already in universe since precise? [14:14] seb128: yeah, forget about me, need to dig deeper, I was certain it was in main still [14:14] seb128, brilliant, thanks! [14:14] ok, looking at what wants to pull in that we have [14:14] mpt, yw [14:14] seb128, 2013? :-) [14:15] mpt, yeah, when we started speaking convergence ;-) [14:15] Oh, I see, the message is from then [14:16] seb128: do we speak fluently yet? [14:16] mpt, yeah, sorry if that was not clear [14:16] larsu, :-) [14:16] didrocks, is that based on component mismatch? [14:17] seb128: yep, gnome-panel wants to be pulled in main, which tries to pull a lot of things yet [14:18] however, on the list, seems everything is in universe, so, I guess gnome-panel is a side-effect itself [14:18] didrocks, that's not new from this cycle, I think it has to do with alternative depends on indicator-rendere [14:18] (from indicator-applet I guess) [14:18] r [14:18] yep [14:18] Recommends: indicator-applet | indicator-renderer, [14:18] from indicator-datetime [14:19] seems component mismatch needs to be fixed… [14:19] didrocks, I wonder if cjwatson didn't mention it being a bug the tools previous cycle [14:19] right [14:19] 5 entries are due to this miscomputation [14:20] didrocks, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/07/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t16:18 [14:20] didrocks, if you are interested in the details from the previous discussion before utopic [14:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/germinate/+bug/1367719 [14:20] Ubuntu bug 1367719 in germinate (Ubuntu) "germinate (maybe?) fails to detect a closed loop on a package currently being processed" [Undecided,New] [14:21] seb128: forwarded to doko to refresh his mind then (and reading :)) [14:21] didrocks, thanks ;-) [14:22] seb128: yw, thanks for the reference, to sum up: no movement to main in the desktop land is a real one, you can focus on the rest :) [14:22] :-) [14:50] didrocks, bug #1432138 is ranked high on e.u.c, not sure if that would be for you or barry? [14:50] bug 1432138 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf-service crashed with FileNotFoundError in __init__(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432138 [14:50] not sure if that's due to systemd as well [14:51] the dbus/machine-id thing [14:54] seb128: should be fixed since my last dbus upload (Friday?) [14:56] didrocks, k, I though it might but I was unsure, feel free to close it then :-) [14:56] didrocks, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/6ecdec0e7e98a62311268646d93e2a11b734390a is not new but has quite some records for an unstable serie, I wonder if that could be a side effect of the other one? [14:57] seb128: mind if I push that appart? there is a systemd beta-freeze blocker I'm handling just now :p [14:57] seb128: the only other high rank when I looked last week is the one barry introduced [14:57] (and still didn't fix) [14:58] didrocks, no, sorry for the nagging, I'm just reviewing e.u.c and pinging people before forgotting :-) [14:58] didrocks, can you give me the reference to the other one? I can try to nag barry once about it [14:59] seb128: after the meeting [14:59] and the systemd upload done [14:59] k, can be another day [14:59] didrocks, thanks, I let you work now ;-) [15:25] hi seb128, sorry [15:25] it's all my fault :) [15:25] seb128, you know how I said I would be chairing this meeting..... [15:25] ;D [15:25] I need willcooke's help with something [15:26] lol [15:26] seb128, would you mind chairing today? I will email the updates to you now... [15:26] in my defense, I gave him at least 5 minutes lead time [15:26] ;) [15:26] fine [15:26] I'm sure there are going to be free beers in return right? ;-) [15:26] I ready seb128 's fine, as a huffy *fine* [15:26] thanks a lot seb128 [15:26] yw :-) [15:26] seb128, yeah, this summer I will pay you back in beers [15:26] seb128, can you make sure everyone gets a piece of mlankhorst's leaving cake? [15:26] rickspencer3, :-) [15:26] willcooke, oh, right [15:27] You might have to fax it to desrt [15:27] willcooke, thanks for fwding the emails [15:27] just received those [15:29] seb128: it was bug #1165104 [15:29] bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165104 [15:29] didrocks, thanks [15:29] Merge is https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/oneconf/lp1165104/+merge/198429 [15:29] IIRC [15:30] k [15:30] ok, it's meeting time [15:30] I think my fax is not capable of 3d printing a cake :( [15:30] attente_, desrt?, didrocks, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, Sweet5hark1, tkamppeter, hey, it's meeting time :-) [15:31] and sorry but you are stucked again with me to lead today :p [15:31] hey [15:32] hi [15:32] ok, let's get started [15:32] #startmeeting [15:32] Meeting started Tue Mar 24 15:32:09 2015 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:32] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:32] #topic attente_ === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente_ [15:32] attente_, hey [15:32] argh so close.. if I only knew why I would get black decoration for compiz.. [15:32] resolve im-config not running under unity 8 [15:32] figured out why gnome-tweak-tool is fixed with a new gtk... it fixes it because it breaks the thing (o-s) that breaks gnome-tweak-tool, ended up just applying the background change to a different widget, thanks Laney [15:32] debug crasher in fcitx-qimpanel, merged upstream [15:32] still trying to get ibus-ui-gtk working under mir, i have a rough idea why it's not working... [15:33] oh right. Laney's off i guess [15:33] he is [15:33] let me know if you need sponsoring or something this week [15:33] sure. maybe happyaron can do another upstream release of fcitx-qimpanel [15:34] happyaron, ^ that would be good :-) [15:34] attente_, did you see my msg earlier about u-c-c not listing any ibus options on a current vivid livecd session, is that expected? [15:34] seb128: yeah, i just looked at that in a vm. it won't list anything that isn't already installed [15:35] which i think was pretty much always the behaviour of u-c-c [15:35] how are users supposed to add chinese to their inputs? [15:35] so removing ibus-pinyin would mean that there's no ibus engines [15:35] oh, right [15:35] seb128: isn't that supposed to be through language-selector [15:35] ? [15:35] we declared that fcitx is what chinese users use [15:36] so we replace ibus-pinying [15:36] gotcha [15:36] right [15:36] attente_, thanks, that makes sense [15:36] seb128: what's kind of bad is now we have ibus but it isn't really working from the image without any engines [15:36] :/ [15:36] yeah, well before it was doing only chinese I guess? [15:37] yeah [15:37] that was always the behaviour of u-c-c. to only list the installed engines [15:37] so not a big difference, most locales go through "install for their locales, get the ibus package, then be able to configure from your session" [15:37] right [15:37] installed systems should have the ibus support pulled through language-selector [15:37] attente_, thanks [15:38] seb128: thanks [15:38] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: desrt [15:38] hey [15:38] desrt, hey, not sure if you are able to join? [15:38] finished the file monitor branch and landed that after we branched stable [15:38] so we'll have faster file monitors not in vivid, but in W [15:38] nice [15:38] ironically, although it was supposed to fix crashes, it seems i messed up something on kqueue and the freebsd guys are screaming about crashes now [15:39] so i'm gonna be looking into that [15:39] also cleaned up and submitted the ghandle stuff for review.. probably that lands in the next week [15:39] and releases, of course [15:39] that's all [15:39] other than lots of discussions about the cycle to come... [15:40] any idea of what's coming next already? [15:40] or still having ongoing discussions? [15:41] lots of plumbing type fixups in glib [15:41] not sure what's happening gtk-side in the next cycle [15:41] but as usual we've been updating the roadmap [15:41] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK%2B/Roadmap [15:41] k [15:42] desrt, anything else? [15:42] nope [15:42] desrt, thanks [15:42] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: didrocks [15:42] didrocks, hey [15:42] hey [15:42] Ubuntu Make: [15:42] - as pip upstream is still discussing about the "right" solution to get pip install working as an user by default, added just a small patch I was waiting on for handling the sudo case: if pip runs as root, fallback to old system-wide behavior. That way, scripts using "sudo pip install" will still install system-wide python packages on vivid (we didn't get bug report, but I was expecting it will break [15:42] people's scripts). [15:42] systemd: [15:42] - continued to spend some time triaging the incoming systemd related (or not!) bugs. [15:42] - upstart wasn't starting anymore as a boot option. That was clear thanks to autopkgtests as well. Fix it by doing some package transitions (upstart -> upstart-sysv, upstart-bin -> upstart), involving autopkgtest, init-system-helpers, systemd, ubuntu-touch-meta and upstart (bug #1422681). The good news is that we didn't break any image build (neither Touch) once the transition was completed. \o/ For [15:42] your information, now: starting upstart by default is an "apt-get install upstart-sysv" away, and starting systemd by default is an "apt-get install systemd-sysv" away. [15:42] - helped the ubuntu core team on various systemd issues on upload (autopkgtests breaking: xorg, display manager not starting…) [15:42] - missing dbus machine-id issue fallbacking directly to systemd machine-id fixed. [15:42] Misc: [15:42] bug 1422681 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "split out upstart-sysv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422681 [15:42] - couple of patches for snappy (go version) to get better shell completion and minor bug fix. [15:42] - more MIR process discussions. [15:42] ☘ [15:42] (as Laney isn't around) [15:43] hm how can I make a screenshot from the command line? :P [15:43] mlankhorst, using another device? ;-) [15:43] :/ [15:44] didrocks, thanks for stepping up for the weekly utf8 char :-) [15:44] mlankhorst: import -window root ~/Pictures/$(date '+%Y%m%d-%H%M%S').png [15:44] seb128: always ready for this! :) [15:44] might work [15:44] didrocks, thanks [15:44] depends on your system reall [15:44] y [15:44] #topic larsu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: larsu [15:44] ok [15:44] larsu, hey [15:45] hi! [15:45] I ventured into thin-scrollbar land this week [15:46] turns out it's a gtk bug. Filed upstream today with a patch (some tricky sizing issues) [15:46] also some theming that goes along with it [15:47] tried making the spacing problem for the new decorations on headerbars o away, but it's too complex. Needs discussion with upstream [15:47] started looking into the nautilus sizing thing today [15:47] fixed backgrounds in gnome-desktop [15:47] (hidpi issues) [15:47] started looking into doing the same for unity-greeter, but that has some comments about not using gnome-desktop in there [15:48] and lots of open bugs about not supporting gradients, tiling, etc. Want to talk to robert before doing any work there [15:48] maybe he already has a plan [15:48] also the ususal code reviews etc. [15:48] [15:48] larsu, thanks for helping on the hidpi issue [15:48] sure [15:48] was quite tricky [15:49] I'm unsure why the greeter is not/doesn't want to use libgnome-desktop, I guess that's one for robert_ancell [15:49] but I'm happy with the way it turned out [15:49] me too :-) [15:49] good job! [15:49] it's in vivid and oem confirmed it works with ubiquity [15:49] seb128: ya, I started hacking before realizing maybe I should talk to him first [15:49] seb128: nice! [15:49] maybe email is best with robert_ancell [15:49] or get online after 10pm to catch him [15:50] larsu, anything else? [15:50] I don't think so :) [15:50] * larsu doesn't take good notes [15:50] well, I think you already have quite some work in that summary, no worry if it lacks some details ;-) [15:51] (that's why I usual add my "usual share of bugs & discussions" ;-) [15:51] thanks larsu === seb128 changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: mlankhorst [15:51] bringing up ubuntu on the tegra with nouveau drivers! [15:51] mlankhorst, hey, last meeting with us it seems :-( [15:52] the tegra K1 specifically, I tried to get a screenshot for this but it seems the hw doesn't like me right now :P [15:52] indeed, last meeting :) [15:53] mlankhorst, good luck for your next adventures! [15:53] it was nice to work with you [15:53] thanks for all the fish! [15:53] I hope we still see you around and that you keep using Ubuntu :-) [15:53] I might, I still want to get ubuntu running on this! [15:53] great ;-) [15:54] o/ [15:54] o/ [15:54] see you mlankhorst, hope you will enjoy your next challenge :) [15:55] yeah :) [15:56] thanks mlankhorst [15:56] ok, next [15:56] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: qengho [15:56] qengho, hey [15:57] no qengho? [15:57] #topic Sweet5hark === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Sweet5hark [15:57] Sweet5hark, hey [15:57] hey [15:57] - finished the round of Writer refactoring. gory details here: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/some-notes-on-SwClient-and-SwModify-td4144122.html [15:57] - doing politics at CeBIT [15:57] - looking into snappy now [15:58] - some high-pri updates on the horizon [15:58] EOF [15:58] Sweet5hark, what sort of politics? ;-) [15:58] seb128: not for public consumption yet. willcooke knows more ;) [15:58] k [15:58] thanks Sweet5hark [15:59] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [15:59] happyaron, here? [15:59] seb128, they're at a meeting with NUDT [15:59] (I guess not since he didn't reply to pings earlier) [15:59] willcooke, thanks === seb128 changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: tkamppeter [15:59] tkamppeter, hey [16:00] no tkamppeter? [16:00] ok, my turn then? [16:00] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: seb128 [16:00] seems so :) [16:01] • u-s-d battery info hotkey [16:01] ∘ fixed keybinding not working, vivid + SRU [16:01] • u-s-d vivid landing [16:01] ∘ including pending bugfixes [16:01] • u-s-d/compiz focus for windows started by keybindings [16:01] ∘ backported g-s-d patch to correctly focus windows displayed from media key bindings, needs unity change, discussed that with Trevinho and tested/confirmed that his patch makes u-s-d work [16:01] • gnome-desktop fix for bg hidpi issue [16:01] ∘ discussed changes, tested fix (thanks larsu for taking over and fixing it properly!) and uploaded [16:01] • some reviews and landings of pending bugfixes (ido, o-s) [16:01] • developers.u.c, design guidelines and uitk [16:01] ∘ reported some more bugs (some with proposed changes) against [16:01] • click/unicode issues [16:01] ∘ hit some of those while trying to build a click with non ascii filename, looked a bit at the issue and report a bug [16:01] • review of vivid desktop status, tried current daily for desktop and desktop-next, looked at e.u.c top reports, some bug triaging [16:01] [16:02] ok, next [16:03] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: robert_ancell [16:03] Worked on: [16:03] - TPM PCR support [16:03] - More Indic font tidying up [16:03] - lightdm 1.14.0 release [16:03] - simple-scan 3.16.0 release [16:03] Currently working on: [16:03] - TPM [16:03] - Release critical fixes for 15.04 [16:03] - X Mir / X handover [16:03] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: TheMuso [16:03] * Finished implementing accessibility support for the scope icons at the bottom of the Unity 7 dash window, started working on improving accessibility of the filter settings. [16:03] * More installer accessibility testing. [16:03] #topic other topics === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: other topics [16:03] ok, any other topic? still no qengho or tkamppeter? did I forget anyone? [16:04] quick reminder about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule [16:04] we are in beta freeze now [16:04] still some weeks to polish and get vivid bugs fixed though [16:05] k, seems there are no other topics [16:05] thanks everyone [16:05] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Welcome to the Desktop Team | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For support please join #ubuntu | Issues with GTK 3.14? Check here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v [16:05] Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 16:05:21 2015 UTC. [16:05] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-03-24-15.32.moin.txt [16:05] thanks [16:05] * didrocks is going to reboot with new systemd, if you don't see me in few minutes, bad things happened… [16:06] didrocks, good luck [16:06] let's see :) [16:09] sounds ok [16:10] sounds? [16:10] pulseaudio in systemd yet? [16:14] hi, I am here [16:14] larsu: incoming [16:14] :) [16:15] tkamppeter, hey, the meeting is over but you can give your weekly summary anyway for those who still are around/read the channel [16:15] seb128: Damn! I looked away for just a moment. [16:16] didrocks: haha :) [16:16] Mine: [16:16] * Chromium autopkgtest fixes. [16:16] * Cr Pwn to Own competition had exploit in code we don't ship, so no new urgent release. Yay. [16:16] * One high-DPI fix. Still one problem remains. Possible backport from Cr 43 line will fix. [16:16] * Kid's school is on spring break, so I'll take a day or two off, later. Too many distractions with him here. [16:17] EOF [16:17] qengho, thanks [16:18] seb128, ere we go: [16:18] - system-config-printer: Updated to upstream bug fix release 1.5.6. [16:18] - foomatic-db: Added updated set of manufacturer-supplied, GPLed PPD files for Sharp printers [16:18] - cups: Forwarded security fix from upstream to the Ubuntu security team [16:18] - Bugs [16:18] - Arrived in Brazil [16:18] tkamppeter, I hope you had an ok trip and didn't have too many issues with the moving in [16:26] seb128, it was all OK for now, the trip, the registration as resident in Brazil, ... [16:27] great === balloons is now known as iwishiwasascoola === iwishiwasascoola is now known as balloons [17:24] * qengho afk a bit. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:17] g'night === greyback__ is now known as greyback