[01:10] <georgeowell> why is there so much "broken" software in the Ubuntu repos?
[01:11] <georgeowell> Like for example a certain application that's non functioning on a specific version
[01:12] <georgeowell> As somewhat of a Linux newbie, I'm surprised some of this stuff doesn't get fixed. Is it just lack of resources? Some applications have been broken for years.
[01:23] <micahg> lack of resources, is there something specific?  I would suggest filing bug reports and/or if you know it's fixed in a later version, you can request a backport
[01:27] <micahg> over 75% is imported unchanged from Debian
[01:27] <georgeowell> Yeh, I've come across quite a few. One that springs to mind right now is the Seahorse encryption extension for nautilus.
[01:28] <georgeowell> Maybe that's more of a Ubuntu-Gnome specific bug
[01:28] <georgeowell> oh that's interesting. Do they take them from Debian testing?
[01:28] <micahg> unstable unless it's an LTS release
[01:28] <micahg> which release?
[01:28] <georgeowell> 14.10
[01:30] <georgeowell> All my PGP stuff is set up correctly
[01:31] <georgeowell> Are all the Ubuntu bugs handled through launchpad?
[01:31] <micahg> yes
[01:32] <micahg> any of these? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse-nautilus
[01:32] <georgeowell> I'll have to start submitting some stuff.
[01:33] <georgeowell> ah yes
[01:33] <georgeowell> thats it
[01:33] <georgeowell> two of them are the same bug
[01:35] <georgeowell> Oh cool, Launchpad is actually pretty good.
[01:39] <georgeowell> Someone has submitted a patch but it hasn't been pushed out
[01:39] <micahg> which bug?
[01:39] <georgeowell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcryptui/+bug/1394582
[01:42] <georgeowell> Is it awaiting review? I can't really make it out.
[01:44] <micahg> hrm, it seems like it was never fixed if it was actually an issue
[01:46] <micahg> it does look like there is a logic flaw, but I'm not sure that's the correct solution
[01:48] <georgeowell> Would that usually be because not many people are using it? Its a shame if it the patch exists. I mean obviously you can't say for sure :)
[01:53] <micahg> idk, one of the Ubuntu GNOME devs might be better able to help, it's also been forwarded to Debian, so #debian-gnome on OFTC might be able to help with the Debian bug and evaluate if it's correct or not or maybe forward it upstream if appropriate
[01:53] <micahg> my bugzilla fu is a little out of practive
[01:53] <micahg> *practice
[01:58] <georgeowell> I'll give it a go
[01:59] <georgeowell> Its fascinating learning how this system works as a newcomer
[02:04] <georgeowell> Thanks for your help
[02:04] <micahg> you're welcome, good luck
[07:32] <darkxst> Noskcaj, yeh uploaded gnome-backgrounds, and also squeezed in the gnome-shell update that appeared this morning ;)
[07:33] <darkxst> ricotz, ok, I left the -g1 i386 only, since the symbols for amd64 can be useful on the retracer at times
[07:36] <Noskcaj> :)
[07:37] <darkxst> georgeowell, patch like the logic fix in  that bug, really should be filed upstream!
[07:44] <darkxst> georgeowell, ie at bugzilla.gnome.org
[07:56] <darkxst> georgeowell, and looking at the code, that patch is not correct
[07:57] <darkxst> its clearly breaking the api:@symmetric: Variable in which to store if symmetric encryption is requested.
[07:57] <darkxst>  *             Set to NULL to disable symmetric encryption.
[08:03] <darkxst> I think the real logic error is in seahorse-nautilus
[09:13] <taharqa> hi folks , do you know where in gnome-shell I disable the behaviour that raise bottom message bar when mouse touch bottom screen edge ?
[09:14] <darkxst> taharqa, you can't unless there is an extension for that
[09:14] <darkxst> btw message bar is gone in 3.16
[09:17] <taharqa> darkxst: I saw somewhere this can be customized
[09:18] <taharqa> darkxst: like triggered by a key combination
[09:18] <mgedmin> there's a key combination _and_ mouse pressure-based activation
[09:18] <darkxst> and I don't believe you can disable the mouse activation
[09:19] <mgedmin> it's not touching the bottom row, it's actively pushing against the bottom that's needed to activate the message tray
[09:19] <mgedmin> (unless you're on an old X server version that didn't support pointer barriers)
[09:19] <mgedmin> (or an old gnome-shell version that didn't use them)
[09:19] <taharqa> I'm using ubuntu gnome 14.04
[09:20] <mgedmin> that has what, gnome 3.8?
[09:20] <taharqa> let me check this
[09:20] <darkxst> mgedmin, 3.10 I think
[09:20] <mgedmin> oh right
[09:20] <taharqa> 3.10.4
[09:23] <darkxst> I would think 14.04 has the pressure barriers
[09:35] <taharqa> darkxst: mgedmin : found this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/616/insensitive-message-tray/
[09:36] <taharqa> and it works as expected ^^
[09:36] <mgedmin> excellent!
[09:36] <taharqa> The "There's an extension for that" syndrom ^^
[09:37] <taharqa> just a 30 line js file
[14:35] <dz0ny> anyone noticing this gnome-session-c[10730]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fb9917fb51f sp 00007fffe2c8f3d8 error 4 in libc-2.21.so[7fb991765000+1c0000]
[14:35] <dz0ny> with latest build from staging?