[01:10] why is there so much "broken" software in the Ubuntu repos? [01:11] Like for example a certain application that's non functioning on a specific version [01:12] As somewhat of a Linux newbie, I'm surprised some of this stuff doesn't get fixed. Is it just lack of resources? Some applications have been broken for years. [01:23] lack of resources, is there something specific? I would suggest filing bug reports and/or if you know it's fixed in a later version, you can request a backport [01:27] over 75% is imported unchanged from Debian [01:27] Yeh, I've come across quite a few. One that springs to mind right now is the Seahorse encryption extension for nautilus. [01:28] Maybe that's more of a Ubuntu-Gnome specific bug [01:28] oh that's interesting. Do they take them from Debian testing? [01:28] unstable unless it's an LTS release [01:28] which release? [01:28] 14.10 [01:30] All my PGP stuff is set up correctly [01:31] Are all the Ubuntu bugs handled through launchpad? [01:31] yes [01:32] any of these? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse-nautilus [01:32] I'll have to start submitting some stuff. [01:33] ah yes [01:33] thats it [01:33] two of them are the same bug [01:35] Oh cool, Launchpad is actually pretty good. [01:39] Someone has submitted a patch but it hasn't been pushed out [01:39] which bug? [01:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcryptui/+bug/1394582 [01:39] Ubuntu bug 1394582 in libcryptui (Ubuntu) "patch - fix logic flaw, make seahorse-tool's encrypt command work" [High,Confirmed] [01:42] Is it awaiting review? I can't really make it out. [01:44] hrm, it seems like it was never fixed if it was actually an issue [01:46] it does look like there is a logic flaw, but I'm not sure that's the correct solution [01:48] Would that usually be because not many people are using it? Its a shame if it the patch exists. I mean obviously you can't say for sure :) [01:53] idk, one of the Ubuntu GNOME devs might be better able to help, it's also been forwarded to Debian, so #debian-gnome on OFTC might be able to help with the Debian bug and evaluate if it's correct or not or maybe forward it upstream if appropriate [01:53] my bugzilla fu is a little out of practive [01:53] *practice [01:58] I'll give it a go [01:59] Its fascinating learning how this system works as a newcomer [02:04] Thanks for your help [02:04] you're welcome, good luck [07:32] Noskcaj, yeh uploaded gnome-backgrounds, and also squeezed in the gnome-shell update that appeared this morning ;) [07:33] ricotz, ok, I left the -g1 i386 only, since the symbols for amd64 can be useful on the retracer at times [07:36] :) [07:37] georgeowell, patch like the logic fix in that bug, really should be filed upstream! [07:44] georgeowell, ie at bugzilla.gnome.org [07:56] georgeowell, and looking at the code, that patch is not correct [07:57] its clearly breaking the api:@symmetric: Variable in which to store if symmetric encryption is requested. [07:57] * Set to NULL to disable symmetric encryption. [08:03] I think the real logic error is in seahorse-nautilus [09:13] hi folks , do you know where in gnome-shell I disable the behaviour that raise bottom message bar when mouse touch bottom screen edge ? [09:14] taharqa, you can't unless there is an extension for that [09:14] btw message bar is gone in 3.16 [09:17] darkxst: I saw somewhere this can be customized [09:18] darkxst: like triggered by a key combination [09:18] there's a key combination _and_ mouse pressure-based activation [09:18] and I don't believe you can disable the mouse activation [09:19] it's not touching the bottom row, it's actively pushing against the bottom that's needed to activate the message tray [09:19] (unless you're on an old X server version that didn't support pointer barriers) [09:19] (or an old gnome-shell version that didn't use them) [09:19] I'm using ubuntu gnome 14.04 [09:20] that has what, gnome 3.8? [09:20] let me check this [09:20] mgedmin, 3.10 I think [09:20] oh right [09:20] 3.10.4 [09:23] I would think 14.04 has the pressure barriers [09:35] darkxst: mgedmin : found this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/616/insensitive-message-tray/ [09:36] and it works as expected ^^ [09:36] excellent! [09:36] The "There's an extension for that" syndrom ^^ [09:37] just a 30 line js file [14:35] anyone noticing this gnome-session-c[10730]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fb9917fb51f sp 00007fffe2c8f3d8 error 4 in libc-2.21.so[7fb991765000+1c0000] [14:35] with latest build from staging?