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indracheck09:08
Nothing_Muchanything happening today?14:46
mhall119in about 5-10 minutes14:56
Nothing_Muchwoohoo!14:58
* balloons preps the popcorn15:00
Nothing_Muchlet us know when to refresh the webpage!15:01
Nothing_MuchF5 is being pressed15:04
mhall119Nothing_Much: it seems I was wrong, DST strikes again15:06
mhall119dholbach has informed me that the Q&A actually starts in an hour15:06
Nothing_Muchwell then15:06
dholbachsorry, DST change issues15:07
Nothing_Muchdaylight savings should not exist15:08
Nothing_Muchremain in the fall back and we'll be fine15:08
jfinlanMay I ask - when is the next flash sale?15:09
dholbachjfinlan, I don't know, but it'll surely be announced over here: https://twitter.com/bqreaders15:11
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jfinlanThanks dholbach. Am keeping an eye on it! #impatient15:11
howefieldin the meantime, try and win one :)15:12
howefieldhttp://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/03/24/origami-unicorn-challenge/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=2THT7F&utm_campaign=shortner15:12
jfinlanSounds like hard work!15:12
dholbach:)15:12
howefieldagreed :)15:12
jfinlan#bladerunner15:12
JH_./nick Cerberus15:39
dholbachwelcome everyone!15:57
dholbachall right... we are going to start in about 4 minutes!15:57
popey\o/15:58
popeyhello everyone15:59
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Nothing_Muchan error has occurred16:01
dholbachif you want to ask questions, please prefix them with QUESTION:16:01
dholbachwe're looking forward to all your questions!16:01
justCarakaso/16:01
rowinggolferQUESTION: what is the best laptop shipped in the UK with ubuntu pre-installed.16:02
Jack_HarperQUESTION for Alan, will Music application get folder browsing? I need it badly (got my BQ device today)16:02
Nothing_Muchubuntuonair.com says an error has occurred on the embed16:02
justCarakasQUESTION any updates on the MX4 ?16:02
Nothing_MuchQUESTION: when will drivers support XMir for xorg apps such as Steam? I think Nvidia announced support for Mir16:03
kristbaumQUESTION is there and imap-capable client now on ubuntu phone?16:03
theBestQUESTION: Where are you guys from?16:06
justCarakasQUESTION: is the help app in HTML ? if so how do you do the header ? I can't find any documentation for it, the developer.ubuntu.com site still talks about 14.10 in dev instead of 15.0416:07
justCarakasQUESTION can you use something like angular on top of the ubuntu UI framework ?16:08
justCarakasQUESTION can you do in app downloads in HTML5 apps ?16:08
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Guest85161Question - ECC / GPG Modern on Ubuntu? When? :) It's versioning hell to build it manually from source right now.16:11
mcvriesQUESTION: what is the roadmap for putting ubuntu (and ubuntu Phone) under the attention of new users?16:12
dragon7777QUESTION:Is Linux 4.0 going to be in Ubuntu 15.04?16:14
zygadholbach: QUESTION: are the white phones going to be available?16:14
theBestQUESTION: How is the progress of the desktop UI of Unity 8 - Ubuntu in terms of design? I am interesting how the design team will integrate the scops in the desktop UI.16:15
manosSystem76 for laptops?16:16
manoshttps://system76.com/laptops16:16
Guest85161Clickpads are a headache with Ubuntu's sleep/resume, but the latest beta release candidate kernels seem to sort that out.16:17
justCarakasQUESTION is there a way to view powerpoints without making your system writable ?16:17
AlanBellQUESTION: can you explain the thinking behind themes on the Ubuntu Touch platform? They seem to be fixed to version 0.1 of ambiance but applications can have their own "theme" which is kinda not what I thought themes were about?16:18
Guest85161I got a Acer entry level thinggy, replaced the WiFi card with an Intel and then installed Linux 3.19 kernel to get the sleep / resume to work without crashing the trackpad :P16:18
Jack_Harperlots of my music isnt tagged just right so having everything sorted by tags makes a mess with my music16:19
manosYou'd need folder support if your Tags are messed up16:19
Jack_Harperthat is why I need folder browsing, hopefully some player will appear with that :)16:20
zygathe reality is that folder structure is also metadata16:22
zygaand that is not supported16:22
zygaand all the talk about meta-data is not changing that fact16:22
akiva-thinkpadwhats being talked about?16:22
justCarakasfolder suport in the music app akiva-thinkpad16:23
akiva-thinkpadah16:23
akiva-thinkpadisn't it hard to fork it, because music app has special permissions?16:23
duckywooQuestion: phones are nice but what about tablets and 2 in 1? can i install Ubuntu Next on a Acer Aspire Switch 11 2-in-1?16:24
justCarakasQUESTION can't you turn folders into playlists automagicly ?16:24
akiva-thinkpadLike we can't practically fork the terminal app or the filemanager app.16:24
akiva-thinkpadQUESTIONS: Any News on a North American Solution? I don't want to buy a Nexus, and the current two phones don't have the bands needed here.16:25
duckywooQuestion: why no love for x86? there are many apps that are not even visible on x86 (from ubuntu store) can we please have some more fat packages16:27
justCarakasduckywoo: you should type QUESTION like this (all capps)16:28
duckywooQUESTION: why it's taking so long to fix critical bugs? there is one bug that it you boot with systemd you can't install a devel-proposed image but if you boot with upstart you can... it's opened a month ago.. how crazy is it?16:29
duckywoothanks justCarakas16:29
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Can Popey grow a Mustache for the next video?16:34
AlanBellQUESTION: why has the API and cookbook gone from the webapps guide? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide/ surely that is the documentation for stuff that is released in LTS16:34
ds_I was talking about building GPG on the desktop :P16:34
ds_Not the phone.16:35
ds_Elliptic curve cryptography16:35
ds_GPG 2.116:35
ds_GPG modern supports ellpictic curve cryptographhy16:35
ds_(Utopic still come with GPG 1.4... getting 2.1 to build is a nightmare in versions as all the repo versions are outdated and won't work with 2.1)16:37
AlanBellwould love to know how they plan to get useful data from flash sales!16:38
AlanBellQUESTION: are their any plans to market to business users?16:40
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Ever since I switched to systemd with ubuntu, my battery life has way way way way way improved. Does this make sense? Have you noticed this too?16:43
mhall119AlanBell: if you mean HTML5 themes, jump into #ubuntu-webapps, if you mean QML ask zsombi in #ubuntu-app-devel16:47
AlanBellmhall119: I mean HTML5 themes, but I am a little concerned that I don't also mean QML themes!16:48
mhall119AlanBell: unfortunately there's no easy way to make one theme definition available to both toolkits16:49
mhall119daker make the html5 UI toolkit, and he's built it to support different themes already, he can help you use it in your own app16:50
AlanBellmhall119: unless you generate the sass from QML16:50
mhall119he would also be the best person to talk to about things like making a "current" symlink or something16:51
mhall119AlanBell: is that a thing we can do?16:51
AlanBelldon't see why not, the theme chooser implemented in QML could drop a .sass file somewhere that contains the 4 colours and font declaration16:52
justCarakasQUESTION why can't popey grow a {16:52
xekQUESTION: When will Ubuntu phone support the 802.1x EAP authentication (login+password) for WiFi? I'm unable to connect at work.16:52
mhall119there's more to the QML themese than that16:52
AlanBellor whatever important things need to override the theme16:52
mhall119justCarakas: contractual obligations :)16:52
AlanBelldholbach: click the API and cookbook links at the top of that page16:53
akiva-thinkpadjustCarakas, lol16:53
akiva-thinkpadMustache brackets16:53
justCarakas:D16:53
dholbachAlanBell, ok, understood - thanks16:54
justCarakaswe are nerds so why not talk nerd16:54
akiva-thinkpad:P16:54
otmaroAre you planing to improve the ubuntu store interface? I think It needs improvent...16:55
akiva-thinkpadotmaro, use question16:55
otmaroQUESTION: Are you planing to improve the ubuntu store interface? I think It needs improvent...16:55
akiva-thinkpadSeriously the battery life, is like night and day. I'm like seeing twice the battery life in certain usecases.16:56
dhaval2712popey: Do you have plans to release in India and if so, how do you plan to do it?16:56
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: What should W be?16:57
akiva-thinkpadfor 15.10?16:57
dholbachakiva-thinkpad, wow.. I absolutely didn't16:57
mhall119Wascally Wabbit16:57
akiva-thinkpadmhall119, lol16:57
justCarakasWasabi Wombat :D16:57
justCarakasno more purple, lets go greeen :)16:58
akiva-thinkpadSuse Green!16:58
mhall119#bringbackbrown16:58
justCarakaslets steel green from suse :D16:58
akiva-thinkpadWacky Windows!16:58
akiva-thinkpadWeathered Wombat16:58
justCarakasWracking Windows :)16:58
justCarakasor even better16:58
justCarakasWorking Windows :D16:59
akiva-thinkpadI like wascally wabbit though16:59
dhaval2712QUESTION: Do you have plans to release in India and if so, how do you plan to do it?16:59
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Could Launchpad ever move to Git? Would there be any advantage to this?17:00
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dhaval2712Cool, thanks.17:00
mhall119phones are chiming, that means time is up17:00
akiva-thinkpadwobbly windows !17:00
akiva-thinkpadlol17:00
dhaval2712Wombat?17:01
akiva-thinkpadWattery Watermelon17:01
dhaval2712Whispering Wombat17:01
dhaval2712You could skip it like MS did.17:01
mhall119we've had 2 'H' releases already17:01
akiva-thinkpadpopey, wascally wabbit17:01
akiva-thinkpadseriously17:01
dhaval2712Seconded17:01
akiva-thinkpadWarty Warthog?17:02
mhall119\o/ Kubuntu!17:02
xekhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-network/+bug/1283763 - found the bug regarding 802.1x EAP authentication17:02
popey\o/17:02
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#A15.1017:02
justCarakasCya and thx17:02
dholbachthanks everyone!17:02
akiva-thinkpadcya17:02
dholbachAlanBell, nice one!17:02
popeythank you!17:02
dhaval2712See ya.17:02
xekbye, thanks!17:02
betoafcI like to start in de business of game development using ubuntu...17:03
popey\o/17:03
betoafcplease anyone for any help...17:03
dholbachAlanBell, I just pinged davidcalle on #ubuntu-app-devel about the website - but it looks like he's here as well17:05
dholbachwas this about 1313764, 1434887, 1435473, 1435471, 1317065?17:06
davidcalleAlanBell, hey17:08
AlanBelldholbach: yeah, those look like good bug numbers17:09
AlanBellhi davidcalle17:09
dholbachdavidcalle, AlanBell: I'll leave you two to it - I need to run now17:11
davidcalleAlanBell, as dbarth told you on G+, all that is deprecated, which is a shame, IMHO the new webapps should use mechanisms we had in place. But I guess that'll come back later in oxide itself.17:11
davidcalledholbach, have a nice eod :)17:11
dholbachthanks, you too!17:11
AlanBelldavidcalle: it might be deprecated, but it is in LTS releases17:11
AlanBellmy question earlier was why has it gone17:12
AlanBellpulling the documentation because the code is going to be deprecated in future releases is a bit odd17:12
davidcalleAlanBell, wasn't it 13.10 only? (can't remember if 14.04 has launcher count, notifications, etc. for websites)17:12
AlanBelland leaving 404 pages on the documentation site is even odder17:12
davidcalleAlanBell, if it's in 14.04, I agree we need to put it back, at least the API (which contains enough examples to work as a cookbook as well)17:13
AlanBellthe examples were broken, which is a separate issue!17:15
davidcalleAlanBell, I do remember that indeed17:15
AlanBellhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnome/unity-webapps-common17:16
AlanBellhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/unity-chromium-extension17:16
AlanBellthough, I have both of those packages installed in 14.10 and external.Unity does not appear to exist17:18
AlanBellexternal.getUnityObject is the call rather17:18
davidcalleAlanBell, yes, I'm going to set up a VM with 14.04 and see.17:18
AlanBellso it seems to be kind of there in 14.1017:19
AlanBellI had no clue it was deprecated until I couldn't get to the documentation17:19
rajuhello. is anyone there?17:20
rajuhellow........17:21
John_____hello17:21
rajuoh thnks17:21
rajuI thought I am alone17:21
rajuCan I ask a Q?17:21
rajuabout ubuntu installation17:22
John_____was trying same aspekt17:22
rajuok17:22
John_____By17:22
rajuwat?17:23
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davidcalleAlanBell, I need to run as well, but I'm adding this on my ToDo for this week or the next one. What would be lovely is to discover we can actually get it to work on > 13.10 :) Thanks for raising it, I'll get back to you for testing the doc if you don't mind?17:24
rajucan anyone help me about my ubuntu inside windows problem17:24
raju?17:24
AlanBelldavidcalle: ok, great, I am pretty sure it was working, and still might be working17:26
davidcalleraju, hello, you should probably ask this question in #ubuntu17:26
rajuok finally I got some feedback.17:26
rajuI will17:27
rajuThanks17:27
davidcalleAlanBell, what I know for sure is that even on 15.04 we still have launcher integration (but no count) and the Firefox prompt for integration. But that's using the recent webapp-container.17:28
davidcalleAlanBell, ttyl, thanks!17:28
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killerrohi19:16
killerroI have a problem with Ubuntu 14, i have a error /usr/bin/xorg after run browser logou. Drivers ati installed with compiz all works before after upgrade 3 days ago I have this error....19:20
dom___hello who is speak french??19:24

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