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| Riddell | sgclark: 5.2.2 all in save for muon which I had to reroll again, time for sleep :) | 01:59 |
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| sgclark | Riddell: thanks! night :) | 02:01 |
| ahoneybun | is there a Beta 2? | 02:22 |
| valorie | ahoneycutt: I think the above will be beta2? | 05:33 |
| valorie | unsure it it will be rolled out as a beta 2 release though | 05:34 |
| ahoneycutt | I saw it on the qa page | 05:41 |
| ahoneycutt | listed as beta 2 but was just a daily image | 05:41 |
| === ahoneycutt is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| valorie | ok | 05:52 |
| valorie | an actual beta is usually announced | 05:52 |
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| KDDA | Ive got a stuck package mysql-server-5.6 and I cant seem to install it, error is "/usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper: error: unable to link /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service to /dev/null: File exists | 08:49 |
| KDDA | " | 08:49 |
| KDDA | anyone know a fix? | 08:50 |
| valorie | hmmm, a few mentions here of mysql problems earlier | 08:54 |
| valorie | did you google that line you pasted? | 08:54 |
| valorie | might be a bug report with a workaround | 08:54 |
| sitter | amazon says austrian wine can't be sent to austria :( | 10:39 |
| manchicken | So, my test box is dead in the water, I think it was the 3.19.0-10 kernel upgrade. | 10:43 |
| manchicken | I'm thinking of purging that package, but will that revert back to the already-installed 3.18.0-13 or will it leave me with no kernel image? | 10:43 |
| manchicken | It's been a long time since I had to fix this manner of screw-up. | 10:44 |
| KDDA | just select the previous one in grub | 10:44 |
| KDDA | does it boot at all? | 10:44 |
| Riddell | anyone able to test libreoffice from here for breeze icons? https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 10:49 |
| Riddell | manchicken_: is it just sddm not running? | 10:49 |
| manchicken_ | Reverting kernel versions fixed it. | 10:49 |
| sitter | Riddell: did you review the apport port? | 10:50 |
| manchicken_ | I was very worried for a moment there... I did it and then the machine kinda went to the boot throbber and wouldn't do anything else. | 10:50 |
| manchicken_ | Then I rebooted with the power button and it started right back up. | 10:50 |
| Riddell | sitter: mm no sorry | 10:52 |
| Riddell | can do so in a bit | 10:52 |
| mparillo | Launchpad bug 1409555 is fix released. Does that mean it is time to re-test the development release upgrade process (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu), or do we wait? | 11:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1409555 in Ubuntu Software Center "drop extras.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409555 | 11:14 |
| Riddell | mparillo: yes we need to test that for beta | 11:16 |
| sitter | Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_muon/57/ broken | 11:16 |
| Riddell | meh I fixed that | 11:16 |
| Riddell | sitter: no really, I fixed that | 11:17 |
| sitter | ah still building | 11:17 |
| sitter | Riddell: nevermind ^^ | 11:17 |
| soee | good morning | 11:22 |
| * Riddell rebuliding beta candidate images | 11:23 | |
| shadeslayer | Hola soee | 11:25 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Morning soee | 11:25 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit, mparillo, soee: who's coming to akademy? | 11:26 |
| soee | oh, not me :( | 11:27 |
| soee | Riddell: as i wrot yesterday the element that is missing i mun for me in 5.2.2 is called Discover Tollbar. The real problem is it exists but is just empty | 11:34 |
| sgclark | morning | 11:52 |
| soee | good morning sgclark | 11:53 |
| mparillo | Riddell: OK, I will re-test https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu, but I assume Akademy is in Europe? Very kind of you for including me in your question, but Sick_Rimmit and soee would be both much more useful there. | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:56 |
| Riddell | markey_work: ddd | 11:57 |
| soee | <3 https://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/breeze-love-libre-office/ | 11:58 |
| sitter | Riddell: wrong m<tab>? also what's ddd :O | 12:02 |
| Riddell | oh sorry markey_work | 12:05 |
| Riddell | my ssh session hung | 12:05 |
| markey_work | it's ok :) | 12:06 |
| Sick_Rimmit | mparillo: I am not going to be able to upgrade because I am on the Plasma 5 Tech Preview, so I'm going to do a re-install | 12:07 |
| Riddell | ooh Sick_Rimmit are you coming to akademy? | 12:09 |
| Riddell | mparillo: don't undersell yourself! | 12:09 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Let me take a look at that. | 12:09 |
| sitter | mh | 12:10 |
| sitter | mparillo: people insist I go to akademy yet all I do is get everyone drunk and insult as many people as possible ;) | 12:11 |
| Riddell | sitter: and we love you for it | 12:12 |
| sitter | :* | 12:12 |
| sgclark | yes we do! | 12:12 |
| mparillo | Sick_Rimmit: I meant you would be more useful at Akademy than I would be. Not that I was asking you to help me test the upgrade. I am building a clean 14.10 VM now. THen I will kick off the 14.10 upgrade. Then I will test the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu | 12:12 |
| Riddell | mparillo: ah but if you both came.. twice the usefulness :) | 12:12 |
| Sick_Rimmit | mparillo: Ah ha, right OK now I understand :-) | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | can anyone point me to a tutorial for setting up actitvities on 15.04 ...can't seem find anything except descriptions about how wonderful activities is, but no real tutorials | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | mainly because I miss my different wallpapers for VDs | 12:21 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: come to akademy and ask in person :) | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | akademy? | 12:23 |
| Riddell | kde conference | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | oh, where? | 12:24 |
| Riddell | a coruna in western spain | 12:24 |
| Riddell | they put the "finisterre" into the shipping forcast | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | don't think wife would appreciate me attending a geek conference in Spain without her :) | 12:26 |
| mparillo | BluesKaj: better a geek conference than a trade show. In the USA, you will find 'booth babes' (not sure that translates well, but you can figure it out). | 12:27 |
| Riddell | no booth babes at akademy, only codes of conduct to ensure none of that silly sexist stuff | 12:28 |
| soee | i doubt i can attend such events this year, but i would like to start soon | 12:28 |
| Riddell | and my girlfriend is coming, all welcome | 12:28 |
| soee | anyone knows something about this: https://plus.google.com/112006442202318727102/posts/SMRDjueGCA3 ? | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | well, my bad knees wouldn't be able to handle a long flight now that the seating arrangements are even more cramped than before...being a really old tall guy is no fun in an airplane nowadays | 12:34 |
| sitter | soee: google: plasma desktop scripting | 12:35 |
| Riddell | ScottK: you should come to akademy, we haven't seen you in too long! | 12:38 |
| * sitter agrees | 12:41 | |
| Riddell | see, if you come then harald will come and we can have hot tub parties | 12:41 |
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| yofel | talking about conferences, anyone going to debconf? | 12:45 |
| sitter | need review http://paste.ubuntu.com/10677432/ | 12:48 |
| Riddell | sitter: no changelog entry? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | sitter: what's the rationale? | 12:50 |
| yofel | +Breaks: cantor | 12:50 |
| yofel | +Replaces: cantor | 12:50 |
| yofel | unversioned? | 12:50 |
| yofel | what's up with line 183-185? ^^ | 12:52 |
| sitter | wrap and sort decides to not eat empty lines xD | 12:52 |
| yofel | mah | 12:52 |
| sitter | which is actually intersting considering it eats comments in control | 12:53 |
| sitter | .... | 12:53 |
| yofel | why the data files in libcantorlibs6 ? | 12:53 |
| sitter | yofel: it also contains an unversioned plugin, so no point in moving the data elsewhere as the plugin would conflict anyway | 12:54 |
| yofel | meh, true | 12:54 |
| sitter | other option would be to split the plugin out and move the data out as well | 12:58 |
| sitter | personally I don't see the benefit in that, in fact I'd put all of cantor in one package and have one -dev and one -dbg and be done with it | 12:59 |
| sitter | the packaging is awkwardly blown up with no real benefit other than not having to install all possibly backend thingums | 12:59 |
| yofel | I think that's the point really | 12:59 |
| sitter | technically it also has a kpart | 13:00 |
| sitter | so that would have to be split as well | 13:00 |
| sitter | oh and the assitants needs splitting as well xd | 13:01 |
| debfx | split all the things! | 13:03 |
| sitter | what we could do is cantor -> kpart5-cantor -> libcantorlibs -> cantor-panels & cantor-assistants & libcantrolibs-data & cantor-backend-* | 13:04 |
| sitter | this would seem slightly less awkward if the lib wasn't glued into the app source for no good reason | 13:04 |
| Riddell | sitter: I committed a fix for apport qt5 and it's working well | 13:17 |
| Riddell | sitter: fancy submitting a FFe and we'll get pitti to ack? | 13:18 |
| sitter | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1436328 https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/apport/qt5/+merge/254082 | 13:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1436328 in apport (Ubuntu) "FFe apport-kde qt5 port" [Undecided,New] | 13:23 |
| sitter | so guys, what do we do with cantor? should I split it further or are we leaving it at libs+dev for now? | 13:25 |
| soee | Riddell: Vivid does not work with VB ? | 13:56 |
| Riddell | soee: it's reported to work now | 14:00 |
| soee | Riddell: one user reports on #kubuntu crash | 14:01 |
| soee | but he is using debian, does it matter ? | 14:02 |
| Riddell | I've no idea | 14:09 |
| Riddell | depends what crashed and how | 14:09 |
| mparillo | Could not install the upgrades from 14.10. Everything seemed to be running nicely but I got: http://imgur.com/RvTrg2H towards the end (after step 3.4 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu). I noticed Riddell removed the bit about removing extras | 14:11 |
| Riddell | mparillo: ug, what's in logs? | 14:25 |
| Riddell | note to self: is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kcmsystemd?content=161871 interesting? | 14:26 |
| mparillo | How do I get the logs? | 14:29 |
| Riddell | mparillo: /var/log/dist-upgrade I think | 14:34 |
| yofel | Riddell: kde-config-systemd 0.7.0-1 is in debian experimental | 14:50 |
| Riddell | hmmwe should sync that | 14:51 |
| Riddell | but I wonder if it's useful on by default and I wonder if it's useful to be part of upstream plasma | 14:52 |
| Riddell | trying out fedora.. it's a bit weird but not as bad as arch which apparantly doesn't even have an installer | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | arch is delberately obtuse about creating an installer , the devs think it weeds out the great unwashed :) ...I ran their tutorial and installed arch, then running it was an anticlimax ...didn't do much for me at all | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | arch lasted 3 days on my pc :) | 15:13 |
| Riddell | :) | 15:14 |
| soee | well its good if you know how to install what you want and want to insyall only what you want | 15:14 |
| soee | BluesKaj: did an upgrade to 5.2.2 ? | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | and their chats are full of juveys with swelled heads | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | I guess so , I dist upgraded this morning, soee | 15:15 |
| soee | BluesKaj: can you chec muon ? | 15:16 |
| soee | *check | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | I can't right now I'm on 14.10 | 15:17 |
| soee | ok | 15:17 |
| KDDA | anyone find a fix for MySQL>Akonaid>Kontact? | 15:17 |
| soee | woho LibreOffice Online Announced :) | 15:18 |
| Riddell | about time, only took them three years | 15:18 |
| soee | better now than never :) | 15:19 |
| soee | BluesKaj: you once mentioned you cant run kdesu from krunner ? | 15:19 |
| BluesKaj | soee, I can't get kdesudo systemsettings to launch in krunner in order to set global fonts as root so I can read the toolbars during file editing on this TV/monitor | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | for example | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | won't launch from the konsole either | 15:23 |
| kfunk | the kubuntu vivid live installer asks for a kwallet pass when entering the wifi password -- I'm sure we don't want that? | 15:26 |
| kfunk | known? | 15:26 |
| kfunk | lemme rephrase: it attempts to create a wallet. which is quite useless in the live session. | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | yup, ignore kwallet just enter your pw in the login , it will continue, it's a known bug | 15:28 |
| Riddell | kfunk: oh bah I had hoped I had fixed that | 15:29 |
| Riddell | kfunk: ifyou can work out what setting is needed or file should be removed to sto pit from happening let me know :) | 15:29 |
| Riddell | kfunk: does it try to migrate the kdelibs4 wallet? | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, i saw it in the daily a few days ago when i reinstalled | 15:29 |
| kfunk | Riddell: no migration iirc | 15:30 |
| Riddell | well that's something :) | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | except the wallet didn't pop up ,. only the the login page | 15:30 |
| kfunk | Riddell: also, I'd disable the automatic screensave if possible | 15:36 |
| kfunk | just setting up a new notebook, thus I'm seeing this issues here :) | 15:36 |
| sitter | Mirv, mitya57: upstream kde wants a patchy in qtwayland, how do we best go about landing that? https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/106367/ | 15:40 |
| Riddell | note to self, add http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=a476e1b6bf6f683bd74000bb30076868c9f92371 | 15:50 |
| Riddell | ooh new images :) | 15:50 |
| Riddell | !testers | beta 2 candidate images | 15:50 |
| ubottu | beta 2 candidate images: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31 for information | 15:50 |
| mparillo | Riddell: Paste from var/log/dist-uprade http://paste.ubuntu.com/10678743/ | 15:52 |
| soee | som isos link please | 15:58 |
| Riddell | soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds | 15:59 |
| mparillo | soee: I am getting 32-bit, so maybe you can pick 64-bit? | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, navigated to the image but it's the same as my daily image from last week , they should label it beta 2 | 16:06 |
| Riddell | it is a daily image, we make them new each day | 16:06 |
| Riddell | it doesn't get labelled beta until we release it, that's why we need people to test it so we can label it | 16:06 |
| soee | mparillo: ok | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | ok , dumped the old image, downloading the new daily | 16:10 |
| Riddell | hi ximion, have you seen the gsoc project I have to add install to various kde apps? | 16:10 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: a zsync might have been faster | 16:11 |
| ximion | Riddell: the "package install for 3rd party applications " one? | 16:25 |
| Riddell | ximion: yeah | 16:25 |
| ximion | Riddell: I am currently working with the Debian ftpmasters to get a patch for AppStream into dak (it's quite a lot of code to review, and might even need to be run on a separate machine since some people don't like image processing being done on a critical machine) | 16:28 |
| ximion | the basic building block for DEP-11 support (the Debian spec for AppStream) is at https://github.com/ximion/dep11 | 16:29 |
| ximion | I'll likely create a standalone app to generate the data without the use of dak | 16:29 |
| ximion | theoretically, the data could then be shipped in a simple .deb package, instead of integrating AppStream into Launchpad (which would be the proper way to do things, but will likely also take more time) | 16:30 |
| ximion | on Tanglu, we already ship a package for AppStream support as technical preview: http://packages.tanglu.org/source/bartholomea-updates/appstream-data | 16:31 |
| Riddell | ximion: how does that package work? | 16:32 |
| ximion | Riddell: it ships the DEP-11 YAML and icons, which are then consumed by appstream-index or hughsie's appstream-glib library | 16:33 |
| ximion | (see the /usr/share/app-info/yaml folder in the package) | 16:33 |
| ximion | the "normal way" to get that data would be APT downloading it from the archive directly, but that feature needs dak/Soyuz integration on Debian/Ubuntu, so shipping it as .deb package is easier | 16:35 |
| ximion | (for now) | 16:35 |
| soee | Riddell: if in live session desktop is not localized i should mark test as failed ? and this bug is enough to add 1306866 ? | 16:39 |
| Riddell | soee: the session won't be translated, we don't have space for that | 16:40 |
| Riddell | but ubiquity should be if you set it | 16:40 |
| Riddell | and the installed session should be if you have internet access during install | 16:40 |
| soee | ubiquity is, just not live session | 16:40 |
| Riddell | that's as expected then | 16:40 |
| soee | ok | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, the loads shown by cpu/memory monitor widget doesn't agree with ksysguard and htop ...something to keep in mind | 16:42 |
| soee | :$ | 17:06 |
| soee | i think ubquity misses some images | 17:17 |
| sgclark | thanks Riddell, one of these days I will remember to update trello | 17:23 |
| Riddell | :) | 17:23 |
| Riddell | thanks for doing 5.2.2 sgclark | 17:23 |
| sgclark | np! | 17:23 |
| sgclark | think a couple days yet for the applications? | 17:23 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Crash tracker : http://goo.gl/Cdynad | ||
| Riddell | sgclark: I'm not sure what you're asking there, applications can be packaged now no? | 17:31 |
| sgclark | Riddell: oh? I thought the email saiding tagging 3 days yesterday or day before. | 17:32 |
| sgclark | would be better for me to do now, I am out of town this weekend and forcing myself away from work lol | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, both zsync anmd html images failed during the last few secs of their respective downloads , md5sum is totally different than the soiurce | 17:35 |
| BluesKaj | trying wget | 17:39 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: kde-telepathy is still broken in ci :( | 18:05 |
| _Groo_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PhPaeYNh | 18:06 |
| soee | Riddell: from this slideshow images are missing http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/25/ubiquity.jpg | 18:07 |
| soee | in ubiquity | 18:07 |
| Riddell | soee: well spotted, can you report a bug? | 18:11 |
| Riddell | sgclark: looks like beta 3 was last week, RC is due today, final thing tagged in two weeks, take your pick :) | 18:12 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ahh okies, rc then and final when it arrives | 18:13 |
| sgclark | ty | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, FYI , wget fails to finish the beta 2 download as well, that 3 tries and they all failed ...sorry can't test the iso | 18:17 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: wget -c ? | 18:17 |
| genii | or noclobber | 18:17 |
| BluesKaj | something wrong withe source url | 18:17 |
| BluesKaj | just wget , no -c | 18:18 |
| Riddell | try -c to finish it off | 18:18 |
| Riddell | what url are you using? | 18:18 |
| genii | BluesKaj: What url are you using? I can try it here | 18:18 |
| BluesKaj | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150325.1/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso | 18:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun 65 more links to fix | 18:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | this is too repetitive for me | 18:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm taking a shower. BRB | 18:20 |
| BluesKaj | genii, it's stuck at 99% | 18:20 |
| BluesKaj | no way to get back to mth eprompt to use the -c | 18:21 |
| genii | Well, I'm trying it now but on this connection I'll let you know in ~35 minutes | 18:21 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: according to ci lp all the telepathy files are there, but i still cant install it cleanly in utopic, its missing packages | 18:22 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: I have not see your notes on how to check them | 18:23 |
| BluesKaj | I opened another terminal and used -c and it finished the download , I think | 18:23 |
| BluesKaj | genii, ^ | 18:24 |
| genii | BluesKaj: Ah, OK. I think you could have also ctrl-c the original wget | 18:25 |
| BluesKaj | ok , I'll try to remember that | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | gonna try burning it with wodim | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | k3b fails | 18:26 |
| yofel | did someone try to run ubiquity from a live session? For me it just says "rmdir: failed to remove '/run/udisks2/inhibit-polkit': Device or resource busy" and quits | 18:27 |
| soee | yofel: im installing it now, doing Non-English Live Session & Installation; Full Network Support in Kubuntu Desktop amd64 for Vivid Daily | 18:29 |
| soee | all went fine, installer copies files now | 18:29 |
| yofel | that's what I did too, but after launching the live session I can't start ubiquity | 18:30 |
| Riddell | d__ed: so can I borrow your shower now? | 18:36 |
| BluesKaj | well, here goes | 18:39 |
| mparillo | sgclark: Today's Beta 2 Release Candidates show Plasma 5.2.2 Thank you. | 18:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: I haven't written much on that | 18:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: check the header from https://notes.kde.org/p/Kubuntu-new-site-pages-not-found | 18:49 |
| soee | yofel: non english live session finished and works fine after installation for me | 18:50 |
| soee | im testing in VB | 18:51 |
| yofel | me too... | 18:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: ping | 18:55 |
| jose | pong | 18:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: I want/hope that by the end of this week to give the site to the canonical sysadmins | 18:56 |
| jose | perfect | 18:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | and have it available under a temporary subdomain | 18:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | newsite.kubuntu.org | 18:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | or something like that | 18:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | can you make the necessary arangements? | 18:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: there are backups (not sanitized) in the Backups folder in my HOME on the server | 18:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll make one after every milestone (if I don't forget) | 18:58 |
| jose | eh, we need to have something finalized before we can ask | 18:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll do my best | 18:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | brb | 18:59 |
| soee | ubiquity slides should be localized ? | 19:00 |
| Riddell | soee: known bug | 19:01 |
| soee | Riddell: do you know bug report number ? | 19:02 |
| mparillo | Does anybody have to re-enter their kwallet password to access wireless every time booting? http://imgur.com/iFbqueM | 19:03 |
| Riddell | mparillo: yep | 19:06 |
| mparillo | Riddell: TY, so working as designed, known bug, or should I create a new one? If, what component? | 19:09 |
| Riddell | mparillo: it's working as designed | 19:10 |
| Riddell | mparillo: the fix is to get someone to finish off pam integration of kwallet at login | 19:10 |
| Riddell | but that's a feature rather than a bug | 19:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: back | 19:17 |
| jose | ok | 19:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: I would like to get the site on a temporary domain, when it's almost release ready | 19:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | and continue working on it there | 19:17 |
| jose | don't we have that already? | 19:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | and then just ask them to change domains to publish it | 19:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's faster than migrating the whole site at wonce | 19:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: we have it on our working server | 19:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | I want to get it on our public server, but on a temporary subdomain | 19:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | so we can make sure everything works | 19:19 |
| jose | eh, not sure if we can get that done. | 19:19 |
| jose | I can ask around later today | 19:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | and do some last minute changes | 19:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | jose: that's what I wanted | 19:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | to find out if we can do that, and what's the procedure | 19:20 |
| soee_ | the OEM installation does not offer Prepare for shipping to end user install icon on the desktop | 19:36 |
| soee_ | if we add widget Flder and it point to Desktop folder | 19:38 |
| soee_ | we than have this icon | 19:38 |
| soee_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1436537 | 19:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1436537 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Vivid missing "Prepare for shipping to end user" icon" [Undecided,New] | 19:49 |
| soee_ | oh crap, i think it shouldnt be assigned to ubiquity right ? | 19:50 |
| mparillo | I might have found the cause of http://imgur.com/RvTrg2H on the development upgrade. I force-powered-down my VM (I could not use the menu or launch a konsole). When I re-started, it looked as if I was running Plasma 5. I opened a konsole and I ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and the problem was a dependency on baloo-kf5 | 19:53 |
| yofel | that's lp 1426132 then | 19:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1426132 in baloo-kf5 (Ubuntu) "baloo is not replaced by baloo-kf5 on dist upgrade" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1426132 | 19:54 |
| mparillo | I will add a comment that it still occurs with Beta2 RC1. | 19:55 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: sgclark valorie Riddell guess who is going to Akademy! | 19:56 |
| soee_ | Riddell: shall i report new bug for ubiquity about missing slides localization ? | 19:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun you and me? | 19:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | and my brother :P | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 19:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | awesome :D | 19:57 |
| ahoneybun | my request was approved | 19:57 |
| Riddell | awooga | 19:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | so was mine | 19:57 |
| ahoneybun | awesomesauce | 19:57 |
| ahoneybun | whooo | 19:57 |
| sgclark | nice! | 19:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: do we have a list of people that are going to akademy this year? | 19:59 |
| ahoneybun | hey prth | 20:00 |
| prth | hi ahoneybun | 20:01 |
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| * ahoneybun calling everyone telling them about akademy | 20:02 | |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: I've been out of the country | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | *never | 20:03 |
| sgclark | wow! so this will be a grand experience for you :) | 20:04 |
| sgclark | it is great fun | 20:04 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: um do you have a passport? | 20:04 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: need to get one | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | *will get it | 20:05 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: ^ | 20:06 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: best start pronto, those things can be very beurocratic :) | 20:07 |
| sgclark | ahoneybun: eek yes they can take some time | 20:07 |
| yofel | soee_: did you ever had plasma freeze on you on first boot after install? Happened to me twice already.. | 20:07 |
| soee_ | yofel: nope | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: Riddell next paycheck | 20:08 |
| soee_ | but Vb uses half of my laptop resources, 4 cores, 4GB ram etc | 20:08 |
| prth | Riddell, i read your comment & i agree. I had thought to fix the bugs while porting | 20:08 |
| soee_ | so maybe it prevents from freezing | 20:09 |
| prth | Riddell, so do you recommend to focus on porting ui files to QML during summer or should i focus on adding features? | 20:09 |
| yofel | I only gave it 1.2G, maybe that's it | 20:09 |
| yofel | it actually seems to be doing something, just very _very_ slow | 20:09 |
| soee_ | yofel: but twice i had to restart my laptop when my system stoped to response during installation in VB :) | 20:09 |
| yofel | haven't seen that in a while, but I know what you mean | 20:10 |
| Riddell | prth: fixing bugs and ensuring feature parity with the gtk frontend should be first, qml well that needs a reason why first :) | 20:10 |
| prth | Riddell, yeah i lean towards that too. i thought it would be cool to use QML animations instead of WebView for slides but features like upgrade Kubuntu would be more useful to the users | 20:12 |
| yofel | hm, now plasma reacts again, and top shows plasmashell using 70% cpu doing... something (I have a notification with an unlabled progressbar...) | 20:13 |
| Riddell | prth: the ubiquity UI is quite shiny already, if you want to make a shiny UI the release-upgrade tool is in need of one | 20:13 |
| soee_ | yofel: if you find few minutes, please do OEM test and see if you can confirm the bug i have reported | 20:14 |
| Riddell | yofel: baloo breakage on upgrade, I think I'll add a baloo transitional package that depends on baloo-kf5 | 20:14 |
| yofel | Riddell: if you do that you might want to drop the provides: - I think that's where our troubles come from in the first place | 20:15 |
| Riddell | yes I'll do that | 20:16 |
| ahoneybun | next paycheck I'm getting the passport | 20:16 |
| prth | Riddell, thanks :). I'll focus on the features qt frontend is lacking | 20:16 |
| yofel | soee_: I'll do that in a moment | 20:16 |
| yofel | now to pass auto-resize... | 20:16 |
| soee_ | nie | 20:17 |
| soee_ | nice | 20:17 |
| * ahoneybun just thought of going to akademy with a GNOME laptop | 20:20 | |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: best not | 20:21 |
| soee_ | someone can take a look @ #kubutnu and maybe help this user (vivid and systemd) | 20:21 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: joke | 20:21 |
| Riddell | phew | 20:22 |
| Riddell | mparillo: you fell into the trap with that libreoffice blog and posted a screenshot of it on windows :) | 20:23 |
| Riddell | don't worry nobody will notice | 20:23 |
| * ahoneybun will try out Beta 2 | 20:44 | |
| ovidiu-florin | beta 2 was released? | 20:45 |
| yofel | not yet | 20:46 |
| yofel | though the installation is in a reasonable state | 20:46 |
| soee_ | can someone highlight on this chan ? | 20:49 |
| yofel | soee_: ping | 20:50 |
| yofel | though ubottu could do that too IIRC | 20:50 |
| soee_ | yofel: thank you, seems like i had disabled notifications in systray | 20:50 |
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| mparillo | Riddell: D'oh. I simply pasted from his blog post. And when you write 'nobody will notice' you noticed. As we used to say in New York, "What am I, chopped liver?" Meaning: "What? I do not count?" | 21:05 |
| Riddell | mparillo: only because he pointed it out to me :) | 21:05 |
| Riddell | and I sent him a better screenshot to put on his blog | 21:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | 13 more links to fix | 21:05 |
| * Riddell hugs ovidiu-florin | 21:06 | |
| ovidiu-florin | 12 | 21:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | 11 | 21:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | 10 | 21:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | 9 | 21:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | 8 | 21:09 |
| soee_ | :) | 21:09 |
| Riddell | ☺ | 21:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | 7 | 21:09 |
| Riddell | ༒ | 21:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | 6 | 21:10 |
| soee_ | mparillo: ill do 1 or 2 test with 32bit isos | 21:10 |
| soee_ | appmenu-qt5 is part of Plama 5 ? | 21:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | 5 | 21:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | 4 | 21:12 |
| Riddell | | 21:12 |
| ovidiu-florin | 3 | 21:12 |
| Riddell | soee_: no and we don't install it any more since nothing uses it | 21:13 |
| ovidiu-florin | 2 | 21:13 |
| ovidiu-florin | 1 | 21:14 |
| Riddell | ⋯ | 21:14 |
| soee_ | Riddell: ok, it also breaks a lot Plasma5 https://plus.google.com/+AnoopPanavalappil/posts/Ao6K1ZWCnJF | 21:14 |
| soee_ | i have installed this and can confirm what they write | 21:14 |
| ovidiu-florin | DONE https://notes.kde.org/p/Kubuntu-new-site-pages-not-found | 21:14 |
| ahoneybun | seems I have a courthouse near me that I can apply for the passport Riddell | 21:15 |
| Riddell | soee_: what does it break? I don't see him complaining about appmenu-qt5 | 21:15 |
| ahoneybun | awesome ovidiu-florin | 21:15 |
| ahoneybun | anything else needs doing ovidiu-florin? | 21:16 |
| yofel | kubotu: order whisky for ovidiu-florin | 21:16 |
| * kubotu throws a mighty fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood at ovidiu-florin. | 21:16 | |
| kubotu | What are ye looking at? | 21:16 |
| Riddell | yofel: wait, he has 1 more to do! | 21:16 |
| soee_ | Riddell: read the kaspers comment | 21:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: no, It's done | 21:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've made a backup already of the site | 21:16 |
| Riddell | soee_: hmm, strange | 21:16 |
| Riddell | 🎆🎇 | 21:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | now I just want lordievader to run his magical scripts to check everything | 21:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | then I'll mark it as done in trello | 21:17 |
| Riddell | thanks ovidiu-florin, you're doing great | 21:17 |
| soee_ | hmm fr i386 iso VB shows me FATAL: No bootable device found. System halted | 21:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: how's the team page going? | 21:19 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: I have it in sections for each person like we talked about | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | just need more names and what they do | 21:20 |
| soee_ | wrr ma fault | 21:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: can I edit one thing? | 21:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: are you working on it now? | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: yea just let me get off | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | go ahead | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | I loged off | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | *logged | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | brb laundry | 21:22 |
| soee_ | ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun consider using one of those http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/6-lazy-load-plugins-to-make-your-wordpress-site-faster/ | 21:23 |
| soee_ | if site uses images with big size lazy loading them might improve performace a lot | 21:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | soee_: the images need to be optimized for the great internet | 21:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: ^ | 21:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: I'm done editing | 21:26 |
| mparillo | soee_: Thank you. I have done a couple of the easy ones. Even though I did not notice the missing images on the slide show. | 21:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | finish adding them, and then I'll add some style to that page | 21:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm off to bed | 21:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | good night | 21:27 |
| KDDA | anyone know how to fix the problem with MySQL not starting and affecting Akonadi and Kontact? | 21:46 |
| yofel | KDDA: a full error log would really help to narrow the error down | 21:48 |
| yofel | mine turned out to be lp 1435823 | 21:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1435823 in mysql-5.6 (Ubuntu) "Disappearing /var/run/mysqld causes mysqld to fail after reboot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1435823 | 21:48 |
| soee_ | Riddell: what about User settings moduel in System Settings - any idea why its gone ? | 22:04 |
| yofel | *blink* | 22:05 |
| yofel | /usr/share/kservices5/user_manager.desktop: Exec=kcmshell4 user_manager | 22:06 |
| yofel | that looks wrong | 22:06 |
| soee_ | thers no port to kf5 ? | 22:07 |
| yofel | that *is* the kf5 port | 22:08 |
| yofel | and our user-manager version is ancient | 22:08 |
| yofel | user-manager | 4:5.1.95-0ubuntu1 | vivid/universe | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el | 22:08 |
| soee_ | hmm | 22:08 |
| yofel | it's fixed upstream FWIW | 22:08 |
| Riddell | yeah probably just needs a new snapshot taken | 22:09 |
| yofel | well, a release would be better. Is there a reason why there isn't one? | 22:09 |
| Riddell | cos a plasma dev grumped that it overlapped with the accounts kcm | 22:10 |
| Riddell | which has gone in 5.3 | 22:10 |
| yofel | ah | 22:10 |
| yofel | soee_: anyway, kcmshell5 user_manager works fine if you need it | 22:11 |
| Riddell | we might want a snapshot of Touchpad kcm too | 22:11 |
| Riddell | great work testing yofel, soee_, mparillo :) | 22:11 |
| soee_ | yofel: thanks | 22:15 |
| soee_ | one month and we will have Plasma 5.3 :) and not so long ago we had 5.0 | 22:16 |
| Riddell | and now we have fcitx for chinese users, woo | 22:18 |
| KDDA | yofel: looked at that bug and dont think its the same one Im seeing | 22:18 |
| KDDA | all the error log seems to say is "Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!" | 22:18 |
| _Groo_ | can someone confirm that kde-telepathy is still broken in ci? | 22:18 |
| _Groo_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/atfJaJUJ | 22:19 |
| _Groo_ | neither kde-telepathy nor kde-telepathy-minimal can be installed | 22:19 |
| soee_ | im not using ci, ut kde-telepathy from archive in vivid works just fine | 22:20 |
| valorie | I'm sorry to report that systemd/sddm catfight continues in latest upgrades | 22:48 |
| valorie | systemctl start sddm starts it, but bleah | 22:48 |
| Riddell | seems like a recurring problem | 22:51 |
| soee_ | mparillo: i did last test for i386 | 22:51 |
| Riddell | but at least it's repeatable | 22:51 |
| soee_ | mparillo: we have all now done | 22:51 |
| * Riddell high fives soee_ | 22:51 | |
| Riddell | baloo packages up so upgrade may work in a couple of hours | 22:51 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 22:52 | |
| soee_ | and we are after chineese ppl taht had kylin tested before us :) | 22:53 |
| soee_ | but beeing second isn't that bad -.- | 22:53 |
| mparillo | TY soee_ I got to have dinner. | 23:11 |
| ahoneybun | is that daily image treated as Beta 2 RC? | 23:17 |
| yofel | yes | 23:18 |
| ahoneybun | thanks yofel I will download it tonight | 23:18 |
| soee_ | i think i will install Vivid on my parents pc this weeknd :) | 23:23 |
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| KDDA | soee: it ready for show time? | 23:26 |
| soee | works nice for me, so i gues yes | 23:26 |
| KDDA | I have a windoze 8 laptop Im just itching to format | 23:27 |
| KDDA | well 8.1 | 23:27 |
| soee | install kubutnu next to it | 23:28 |
| KDDA | nah, I cant stand those fecking tiles! | 23:28 |
| valorie | rebooting still needs console: systemctl start sddm | 23:29 |
| valorie | if your parents can handle that until it's fix00red | 23:29 |
| KDDA | my box is reboot fine | 23:30 |
| KDDA | only problem I have at the moment is Kontact | 23:30 |
| KDDA | and the manual checking of 16 accounts is getting annoying! | 23:30 |
| valorie | oh, interesting | 23:31 |
| valorie | this was a fresh install of beta 1 | 23:31 |
| valorie | and I did the updates today | 23:31 |
| soee | valorie: i dont have such problem on my laptop nor my work pc | 23:32 |
| valorie | hmmm, I thought it was universal | 23:33 |
| valorie | stranger and stranger | 23:33 |
| KDDA | dont think so :/ | 23:33 |
| valorie | I know I'm not alone for sure | 23:33 |
| soee | well at work i had a problem with sddm but used one comment that lordivader showed me and it works since then | 23:33 |
| KDDA | your just special | 23:33 |
| yofel | no, and for most people, enabling it once by hand fixes it | 23:33 |
| valorie | hmmm | 23:33 |
| soee | oh crap my cursor is gone oO | 23:34 |
| valorie | should I use something else than `start`? | 23:34 |
| soee | valorie: wasnt there soem command to enable it ? | 23:34 |
| yofel | valorie: what does status say for Loaded:... ? | 23:34 |
| valorie | yofel, full command I should type? | 23:35 |
| yofel | systemctl status sddm | 23:35 |
| valorie | oops, how do I pastebinit that again? systemctl status sddm | pastebinit ? | 23:36 |
| yofel | I just care about that one line | 23:36 |
| yofel | or well, whether it says enabled or disabled in the middle of it | 23:37 |
| soee | brb | 23:37 |
| KDDA | loaded and active here :) | 23:37 |
| yofel | valorie: you should see: Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) | 23:37 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10681193/ | 23:38 |
| valorie | disabled | 23:38 |
| yofel | valorie: right, so 'sudo systemctl enable sddm' should fix it | 23:39 |
| valorie | excellent | 23:39 |
| yofel | Riddell: why does sddm still conflict with getty@tty1.service ? | 23:39 |
| mparillo | hmm, I have not had to systemctl start sddm on either Beta2 RCs. | 23:39 |
| valorie | so somehow this was fixed, strange | 23:40 |
| KDDA | valorie: have you tried a reboot? | 23:46 |
| valorie | after that command, no | 23:46 |
| valorie | busy with other things now | 23:46 |
| KDDA | no prob | 23:46 |
| yofel | *sigh* - this is 2015, and reasonable handling of broken network mounts on shutdown remains a dream... | 23:54 |
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