[01:59] <Riddell> sgclark: 5.2.2 all in save for muon which I had to reroll again, time for sleep :)
[02:01] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks! night :)
[02:22] <ahoneybun> is there a Beta 2?
[05:33] <valorie> ahoneycutt: I think the above will be beta2?
[05:34] <valorie> unsure it it will be rolled out as a beta 2 release though
[05:41] <ahoneycutt> I saw it on the qa page 
[05:41] <ahoneycutt> listed as beta 2 but was just a daily image
[05:52] <valorie> ok
[05:52] <valorie> an actual beta is usually announced
[08:49] <KDDA> Ive got a stuck package mysql-server-5.6 and I cant seem to install it, error is "/usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper: error: unable to link /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service to /dev/null: File exists
[08:49] <KDDA> "
[08:50] <KDDA> anyone know a fix?
[08:54] <valorie> hmmm, a few mentions here of mysql problems earlier
[08:54] <valorie> did you google that line you pasted?
[08:54] <valorie> might be a bug report with a workaround
[10:39] <sitter> amazon says austrian wine can't be sent to austria :(
[10:43] <manchicken>  So, my test box is dead in the water, I think it was the 3.19.0-10 kernel upgrade.
[10:43] <manchicken> I'm thinking of purging that package, but will that revert back to the already-installed 3.18.0-13 or will it leave me with no kernel image?
[10:44] <manchicken> It's been a long time since I had to fix this manner of screw-up.
[10:44] <KDDA> just select the previous one in grub
[10:44] <KDDA> does it boot at all?
[10:49] <Riddell> anyone able to test libreoffice from here for breeze icons? https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[10:49] <Riddell> manchicken_: is it just sddm not running?
[10:49] <manchicken_> Reverting kernel versions fixed it.
[10:50] <sitter> Riddell: did you review the apport port?
[10:50] <manchicken_> I was very worried for a moment there... I did it and then the machine kinda went to the boot throbber and wouldn't do anything else.
[10:50] <manchicken_> Then I rebooted with the power button and it started right back up.
[10:52] <Riddell> sitter: mm no sorry
[10:52] <Riddell> can do so in a bit
[11:14] <mparillo> Launchpad bug 1409555 is fix released. Does that mean it is time to re-test the development release upgrade process (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu), or do we wait?
[11:16] <Riddell> mparillo: yes we need to test that for beta
[11:16] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_muon/57/ broken
[11:16] <Riddell> meh I fixed that
[11:17] <Riddell> sitter: no really, I fixed that
[11:17] <sitter> ah still building
[11:17] <sitter> Riddell: nevermind ^^
[11:22] <soee> good morning
[11:23]  * Riddell rebuliding beta candidate images
[11:25] <shadeslayer> Hola soee 
[11:25] <Sick_Rimmit> Morning soee
[11:26] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit, mparillo, soee: who's coming to akademy?
[11:27] <soee> oh, not me :(
[11:34] <soee> Riddell: as i wrot yesterday the element that is missing i mun for me in 5.2.2 is called Discover Tollbar. The real problem is it exists but is just empty
[11:52] <sgclark> morning
[11:53] <soee> good morning sgclark
[11:55] <mparillo> Riddell: OK, I will re-test https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu, but I assume Akademy is in Europe? Very kind of you for including me in your question, but Sick_Rimmit and soee would be both much more useful there.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:57] <Riddell> markey_work: ddd
[11:58] <soee> <3 https://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/breeze-love-libre-office/
[12:02] <sitter> Riddell: wrong m<tab>? also what's ddd :O
[12:05] <Riddell> oh sorry markey_work 
[12:05] <Riddell> my ssh session hung
[12:06] <markey_work> it's ok :)
[12:07] <Sick_Rimmit> mparillo: I am not going to be able to upgrade because I am on the Plasma 5 Tech Preview, so I'm going to do a re-install
[12:09] <Riddell> ooh Sick_Rimmit are you coming to akademy?
[12:09] <Riddell> mparillo: don't undersell yourself!
[12:09] <Sick_Rimmit> Let me take a look at that.
[12:10] <sitter> mh
[12:11] <sitter> mparillo: people insist I go to akademy yet all I do is get everyone drunk and insult as many people as possible ;)
[12:12] <Riddell> sitter: and we love you for it
[12:12] <sitter> :*
[12:12] <sgclark> yes we do!
[12:12] <mparillo> Sick_Rimmit: I meant you would be more useful at Akademy than I would be. Not that I was asking you to help me test the upgrade. I am building a clean 14.10 VM now. THen I will kick off the 14.10 upgrade. Then I will test the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu
[12:12] <Riddell> mparillo: ah but if you both came.. twice the usefulness :)
[12:13] <Sick_Rimmit> mparillo: Ah ha, right OK now I understand :-)
[12:19] <BluesKaj> can anyone point me to a tutorial for setting up actitvities on 15.04 ...can't seem find anything except descriptions about how wonderful activities is, but no real tutorials
[12:21] <BluesKaj> mainly because I miss my different wallpapers for VDs
[12:23] <Riddell> BluesKaj: come to akademy and ask in person :)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> akademy?
[12:24] <Riddell> kde conference
[12:24] <BluesKaj> oh, where?
[12:24] <Riddell> a coruna in western spain
[12:24] <Riddell> they put the "finisterre" into the shipping forcast
[12:26] <BluesKaj> don't think wife would appreciate me attending a geek conference in Spain without her :)
[12:27] <mparillo> BluesKaj: better a geek conference than a trade show. In the USA, you will find 'booth babes' (not sure that translates well, but you can figure it out).
[12:28] <Riddell> no booth babes at akademy, only codes of conduct to ensure none of that silly sexist stuff
[12:28] <soee> i doubt i can attend such events this year, but i would like to start soon
[12:28] <Riddell> and my girlfriend is coming, all welcome
[12:29] <soee> anyone knows something about this: https://plus.google.com/112006442202318727102/posts/SMRDjueGCA3 ?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> well, my bad knees wouldn't be able to handle a long flight now that the seating arrangements are even more cramped than before...being a really old tall guy is no fun in an airplane nowadays 
[12:35] <sitter> soee: google: plasma desktop scripting
[12:38] <Riddell> ScottK: you should come to akademy, we haven't seen you in too long!
[12:41]  * sitter agrees
[12:41] <Riddell> see, if you come then harald will come and we can have hot tub parties
[12:45] <yofel> talking about conferences, anyone going to debconf?
[12:48] <sitter> need review http://paste.ubuntu.com/10677432/
[12:50] <Riddell> sitter: no changelog entry?
[12:50] <Riddell> sitter: what's the rationale?
[12:50] <yofel> +Breaks: cantor
[12:50] <yofel> +Replaces: cantor
[12:50] <yofel> unversioned?
[12:52] <yofel> what's up with line 183-185? ^^
[12:52] <sitter> wrap and sort decides to not eat empty lines xD
[12:52] <yofel> mah
[12:53] <sitter> which is actually intersting considering it eats comments in control
[12:53] <sitter> ....
[12:53] <yofel> why the data files in libcantorlibs6 ?
[12:54] <sitter> yofel: it also contains an unversioned plugin, so no point in moving the data elsewhere as the plugin would conflict anyway
[12:54] <yofel> meh, true
[12:58] <sitter> other option would be to split the plugin out and move the data out as well
[12:59] <sitter> personally I don't see the benefit in that, in fact I'd put all of cantor in one package and have one -dev and one -dbg and be done with it
[12:59] <sitter> the packaging is awkwardly blown up with no real benefit other than not having to install all possibly backend thingums
[12:59] <yofel> I think that's the point really
[13:00] <sitter> technically it also has a kpart
[13:00] <sitter> so that would have to be split as well
[13:01] <sitter> oh and the assitants needs splitting as well xd
[13:03] <debfx> split all the things!
[13:04] <sitter> what we could do is cantor -> kpart5-cantor -> libcantorlibs -> cantor-panels & cantor-assistants & libcantrolibs-data & cantor-backend-*
[13:04] <sitter> this would seem slightly less awkward if the lib wasn't glued into the app source for no good reason
[13:17] <Riddell> sitter: I committed a fix for apport qt5 and it's working well
[13:18] <Riddell> sitter: fancy submitting a FFe and we'll get pitti to ack?
[13:23] <sitter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1436328 https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/apport/qt5/+merge/254082
[13:25] <sitter> so guys, what do we do with cantor? should I split it further or are we leaving it at libs+dev for now?
[13:56] <soee> Riddell: Vivid does not work with VB ?
[14:00] <Riddell> soee: it's reported to work now
[14:01] <soee> Riddell: one user reports on #kubuntu crash 
[14:02] <soee> but he is using debian, does it matter ?
[14:09] <Riddell> I've no idea
[14:09] <Riddell> depends what crashed and how
[14:11] <mparillo> Could not install the upgrades from 14.10. Everything seemed to be running nicely but I got: http://imgur.com/RvTrg2H towards the end (after step 3.4 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu). I noticed Riddell removed the bit about removing extras 
[14:25] <Riddell> mparillo: ug, what's in logs?
[14:26] <Riddell> note to self: is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kcmsystemd?content=161871 interesting?
[14:29] <mparillo> How do I get the logs? 
[14:34] <Riddell> mparillo: /var/log/dist-upgrade I think
[14:50] <yofel> Riddell: kde-config-systemd 0.7.0-1 is in debian experimental
[14:51] <Riddell> hmmwe should sync that
[14:52] <Riddell> but I wonder if it's useful on by default and I wonder if it's useful to be part of upstream plasma
[14:53] <Riddell> trying out fedora.. it's a bit weird but not as bad as arch which apparantly doesn't even have an installer
[15:12] <BluesKaj> arch is delberately obtuse about creating an installer , the devs think it weeds out the great unwashed :) ...I ran their tutorial and installed arch, then running it was an anticlimax ...didn't do much for me at all 
[15:13] <BluesKaj> arch lasted 3 days on my pc :)
[15:14] <Riddell> :)
[15:14] <soee> well its good if you know how to install what you want and want to insyall only what you want
[15:14] <soee> BluesKaj: did an upgrade to 5.2.2 ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> and their chats are full of juveys with swelled heads
[15:15] <BluesKaj> I guess so , I dist upgraded this morning, soee
[15:16] <soee> BluesKaj: can you chec muon ?
[15:16] <soee> *check
[15:17] <BluesKaj> I can't right now I'm on 14.10
[15:17] <soee> ok
[15:17] <KDDA> anyone find a fix for MySQL>Akonaid>Kontact?
[15:18] <soee> woho LibreOffice Online Announced :)
[15:18] <Riddell> about time, only took them three years
[15:19] <soee> better now than never :)
[15:19] <soee> BluesKaj: you once mentioned you cant run kdesu from krunner ?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> soee, I can't get kdesudo systemsettings to launch in krunner in order to set global fonts as root so I can read the toolbars during file editing on this TV/monitor 
[15:22] <BluesKaj> for example
[15:23] <BluesKaj> won't launch from the konsole either
[15:26] <kfunk> the kubuntu vivid live installer asks for a kwallet pass when entering the wifi password -- I'm sure we don't want that?
[15:26] <kfunk> known?
[15:27] <kfunk> lemme rephrase: it attempts to create a wallet. which is quite useless in the live session.
[15:28] <BluesKaj> yup, ignore kwallet just enter your pw in the login  , it will continue, it's a known bug
[15:29] <Riddell> kfunk: oh bah I had hoped I had fixed that
[15:29] <Riddell> kfunk: ifyou can work out what setting is needed or file should be removed to sto pit from happening let me know :)
[15:29] <Riddell> kfunk: does it try to migrate the kdelibs4 wallet?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Riddell, i saw it in the daily a few days ago when i reinstalled
[15:30] <kfunk> Riddell: no migration iirc
[15:30] <Riddell> well that's something :)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> except the wallet didn't pop up ,. only the the login page
[15:36] <kfunk> Riddell: also, I'd disable the automatic screensave if possible
[15:36] <kfunk> just setting up a new notebook, thus I'm seeing this issues here :)
[15:40] <sitter> Mirv, mitya57: upstream kde wants a patchy in qtwayland, how do we best go about landing that? https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/106367/
[15:50] <Riddell> note to self, add http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=a476e1b6bf6f683bd74000bb30076868c9f92371
[15:50] <Riddell> ooh new images :)
[15:50] <Riddell> !testers | beta 2 candidate images
[15:52] <mparillo> Riddell: Paste from var/log/dist-uprade http://paste.ubuntu.com/10678743/
[15:58] <soee> som isos link please
[15:59] <Riddell> soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds
[16:00] <mparillo> soee: I am getting 32-bit, so maybe you can pick 64-bit?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Riddell, navigated to the image but it's the same as my daily image from last week , they should label it beta 2
[16:06] <Riddell> it is a daily image, we make them new each day
[16:06] <Riddell> it doesn't get labelled beta until we release it, that's why we need people to test it so we can label it
[16:10] <soee> mparillo: ok
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok , dumped the old image, downloading the new daily
[16:10] <Riddell> hi ximion, have you seen the gsoc project I have to add install to various kde apps?
[16:11] <Riddell> BluesKaj: a zsync might have been faster
[16:25] <ximion> Riddell: the "package install for 3rd party applications " one?
[16:25] <Riddell> ximion: yeah
[16:28] <ximion> Riddell: I am currently working with the Debian ftpmasters to get a patch for AppStream into dak (it's quite a lot of code to review, and might even need to be run on a separate machine since some people don't like image processing being done on a critical machine)
[16:29] <ximion> the basic building block for DEP-11 support (the Debian spec for AppStream) is at https://github.com/ximion/dep11
[16:29] <ximion> I'll likely create a standalone app to generate the data without the use of dak
[16:30] <ximion> theoretically, the data could then be shipped in a simple .deb package, instead of integrating AppStream into Launchpad (which would be the proper way to do things, but will likely also take more time)
[16:31] <ximion> on Tanglu, we already ship a package for AppStream support as technical preview: http://packages.tanglu.org/source/bartholomea-updates/appstream-data
[16:32] <Riddell> ximion: how does that package work?
[16:33] <ximion> Riddell: it ships the DEP-11 YAML and icons, which are then consumed by appstream-index or hughsie's appstream-glib library
[16:33] <ximion> (see the /usr/share/app-info/yaml folder in the package)
[16:35] <ximion> the "normal way" to get that data would be APT downloading it from the archive directly, but that feature needs dak/Soyuz integration on Debian/Ubuntu, so shipping it as .deb package is easier
[16:35] <ximion> (for now)
[16:39] <soee> Riddell: if in live session desktop is not localized i should mark test as failed ? and this bug is enough to add 1306866 ?
[16:40] <Riddell> soee: the session won't be translated, we don't have space for that
[16:40] <Riddell> but ubiquity should be if you set it
[16:40] <Riddell> and the installed session should be if you have internet access during install
[16:40] <soee> ubiquity is, just not live session
[16:40] <Riddell> that's as expected then
[16:40] <soee> ok
[16:42] <BluesKaj> hmm, the loads shown by cpu/memory monitor widget doesn't agree with ksysguard and htop ...something to keep in mind
[17:06] <soee> :$
[17:17] <soee> i think ubquity misses some images
[17:23] <sgclark> thanks Riddell, one of these days I will remember to update trello
[17:23] <Riddell> :)
[17:23] <Riddell> thanks for doing 5.2.2 sgclark 
[17:23] <sgclark> np!
[17:23] <sgclark> think a couple days yet for the applications?
[17:31] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm not sure what you're asking there, applications can be packaged now no?
[17:32] <sgclark> Riddell: oh? I thought the email saiding tagging 3 days yesterday or day before. 
[17:33] <sgclark> would be better for me to do now, I am out of town this weekend and forcing myself away from work lol
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Riddell, both zsync anmd html images failed during the last few secs of their respective downloads , md5sum is totally different than the soiurce
[17:39] <BluesKaj> trying wget
[18:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: kde-telepathy is still broken in ci :(
[18:06] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PhPaeYNh
[18:07] <soee> Riddell: from this slideshow images are missing http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/25/ubiquity.jpg
[18:07] <soee> in ubiquity
[18:11] <Riddell> soee: well spotted, can you report a bug?
[18:12] <Riddell> sgclark: looks like beta 3 was last week, RC is due today, final thing tagged in two weeks, take your pick :)
[18:13] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh okies, rc then and final when it arrives
[18:13] <sgclark> ty
[18:17] <BluesKaj> Riddell, FYI , wget fails to finish the beta 2 download as well, that 3 tries and they all failed ...sorry can't test the iso
[18:17] <Riddell> BluesKaj: wget -c  ?
[18:17] <genii> or noclobber
[18:17] <BluesKaj> something wrong withe source url 
[18:18] <BluesKaj> just wget , no -c
[18:18] <Riddell> try -c to finish it off
[18:18] <Riddell> what url are you using?
[18:18] <genii> BluesKaj: What url are you using? I can try it here
[18:19] <BluesKaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150325.1/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun 65 more links to fix
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> this is too repetitive for me
[18:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'm taking a shower. BRB
[18:20] <BluesKaj> genii, it's stuck at 99% 
[18:21] <BluesKaj> no way to get back to mth eprompt to use the -c 
[18:21] <genii> Well, I'm trying it now but on this connection I'll let you know in ~35 minutes 
[18:22] <_Groo_> Riddell: according to ci lp all the telepathy files are there, but i still cant install it cleanly in utopic, its missing packages
[18:23] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I have not see your notes on how to check them 
[18:23] <BluesKaj> I opened another terminal and used -c and it finished the download , I think
[18:24] <BluesKaj> genii, ^
[18:25] <genii> BluesKaj: Ah, OK. I think you could have also ctrl-c the original wget
[18:26] <BluesKaj> ok , I'll try to remember that
[18:26] <BluesKaj> gonna try burning it with wodim 
[18:26] <BluesKaj> k3b fails 
[18:27] <yofel> did someone try to run ubiquity from a live session? For me it just says "rmdir: failed to remove '/run/udisks2/inhibit-polkit': Device or resource busy" and quits
[18:29] <soee> yofel: im installing it now, doing Non-English Live Session & Installation; Full Network Support in Kubuntu Desktop amd64 for Vivid Daily
[18:29] <soee> all went fine, installer copies files now
[18:30] <yofel> that's what I did too, but after launching the live session I can't start ubiquity
[18:36] <Riddell> d__ed: so can I borrow your shower now?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> well, here goes
[18:47] <mparillo> sgclark: Today's Beta 2 Release Candidates show Plasma 5.2.2 Thank you.
[18:49] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I haven't written much on that
[18:49] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: check the header from https://notes.kde.org/p/Kubuntu-new-site-pages-not-found
[18:50] <soee> yofel: non english live session finished and works fine after installation for me
[18:51] <soee> im testing in VB
[18:53] <yofel> me too...
[18:55] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[18:55] <jose> pong
[18:56] <ovidiu-florin> jose: I want/hope that by the end of this week to give the site to the canonical sysadmins
[18:57] <jose> perfect
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> and have it available under a temporary subdomain
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> newsite.kubuntu.org
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> or something like that
[18:57] <ovidiu-florin> can you make the necessary arangements?
[18:58] <ovidiu-florin> jose: there are backups (not sanitized) in the Backups folder in my HOME on the server
[18:58] <ovidiu-florin> I'll make one after every milestone (if I don't forget)
[18:58] <jose> eh, we need to have something finalized before we can ask
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> I'll do my best
[18:59] <ovidiu-florin> brb
[19:00] <soee> ubiquity slides should be localized ?
[19:01] <Riddell> soee: known bug
[19:02] <soee> Riddell: do you know bug report number ?
[19:03] <mparillo> Does anybody have to re-enter their kwallet password to access wireless every time booting? http://imgur.com/iFbqueM
[19:06] <Riddell> mparillo: yep
[19:09] <mparillo> Riddell: TY, so working as designed, known bug, or should I create a new one? If, what component?
[19:10] <Riddell> mparillo: it's working as designed
[19:10] <Riddell> mparillo: the fix is to get someone to finish off pam integration of kwallet at login
[19:10] <Riddell> but that's a feature rather than a bug
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> jose: back
[19:17] <jose> ok
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> jose: I would like to get the site on a temporary domain, when it's almost release ready
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> and continue working on it there
[19:18] <jose> don't we have that already?
[19:18] <ovidiu-florin> and then just ask them to change domains to publish it
[19:18] <ovidiu-florin> that's faster than migrating the whole site at wonce
[19:18] <ovidiu-florin> jose: we have it on our working server
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> I want to get it on our public server, but on a temporary subdomain
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> so we can make sure everything works
[19:19] <jose> eh, not sure if we can get that done.
[19:19] <jose> I can ask around later today
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> and do some last minute changes
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> jose: that's what I wanted
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> to find out if we can do that, and what's the procedure
[19:36] <soee_> the OEM installation does not offer Prepare for shipping to end user install icon on the desktop
[19:38] <soee_> if we add widget Flder and it point to Desktop folder
[19:38] <soee_> we than have this icon
[19:49] <soee_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1436537
[19:50] <soee_> oh crap, i think it shouldnt be assigned to ubiquity right ?
[19:53] <mparillo> I might have found the cause of http://imgur.com/RvTrg2H on the development upgrade. I force-powered-down my VM (I could not use the menu or launch a konsole). When I re-started, it looked as if I was running Plasma 5. I opened a konsole and I ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and the problem was a dependency on baloo-kf5
[19:54] <yofel> that's lp 1426132 then
[19:55] <mparillo> I will add a comment that it still occurs with Beta2 RC1.
[19:56] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: sgclark valorie Riddell guess who is going to Akademy!
[19:56] <soee_> Riddell: shall i report new bug for ubiquity about missing slides localization ?
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun you and me?
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> and my brother :P
[19:56] <ahoneybun> yep
[19:56] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:57] <ovidiu-florin> awesome :D
[19:57] <ahoneybun> my request was approved
[19:57] <Riddell> awooga
[19:57] <ovidiu-florin> so was mine
[19:57] <ahoneybun> awesomesauce
[19:57] <ahoneybun> whooo
[19:58] <sgclark> nice!
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: do we have a list of people that are going to akademy this year?
[20:00] <ahoneybun> hey prth
[20:01] <prth> hi ahoneybun 
[20:02]  * ahoneybun calling everyone telling them about akademy
[20:03] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I've been out of the country
[20:03] <ahoneybun> *never
[20:04] <sgclark> wow! so this will be a grand experience for you :)
[20:04] <sgclark> it is great fun
[20:04] <Riddell> ahoneybun: um do you have a passport?
[20:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: need to get one
[20:05] <ahoneybun> *will get it
[20:06] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ^
[20:07] <Riddell> ahoneybun: best start pronto, those things can be very beurocratic :)
[20:07] <sgclark> ahoneybun: eek yes they can take some time
[20:07] <yofel> soee_: did you ever had plasma freeze on you on first boot after install? Happened to me twice already..
[20:08] <soee_> yofel: nope
[20:08] <ahoneybun> sgclark: Riddell next paycheck
[20:08] <soee_> but Vb uses half of my laptop resources, 4 cores, 4GB ram etc
[20:08] <prth> Riddell, i read your comment & i agree. I had thought to fix the bugs while porting
[20:09] <soee_> so maybe it prevents from freezing
[20:09] <prth> Riddell, so do you recommend to focus on porting ui files to QML during summer or should i  focus on adding features?
[20:09] <yofel> I only gave it 1.2G, maybe that's it
[20:09] <yofel> it actually seems to be doing something, just very _very_ slow
[20:09] <soee_> yofel: but twice i had to restart my  laptop when my system stoped to response during installation in VB :)
[20:10] <yofel> haven't seen that in a while, but I know what you mean
[20:10] <Riddell> prth: fixing bugs and ensuring feature parity with the gtk frontend should be first, qml well that needs a reason why first :)
[20:12] <prth> Riddell, yeah i lean towards that too. i thought it would be cool to use QML animations instead of WebView for slides but features like upgrade Kubuntu would be more useful to the users
[20:13] <yofel> hm, now plasma reacts again, and top shows plasmashell using 70% cpu doing... something (I have a notification with an unlabled progressbar...)
[20:13] <Riddell> prth: the ubiquity UI is quite shiny already, if you want to make a shiny UI the release-upgrade tool is in need of one
[20:14] <soee_> yofel: if you find few minutes, please do OEM test and see if you can confirm the bug i have reported
[20:14] <Riddell> yofel: baloo breakage on upgrade, I think I'll add a baloo transitional package that depends on baloo-kf5
[20:15] <yofel> Riddell: if you do that you might want to drop the provides: - I think that's where our troubles come from in the first place
[20:16] <Riddell> yes I'll do that
[20:16] <ahoneybun> next paycheck I'm getting the passport
[20:16] <prth> Riddell, thanks :). I'll focus on the features qt frontend is lacking
[20:16] <yofel> soee_: I'll do that in a moment
[20:16] <yofel> now to pass auto-resize...
[20:17] <soee_> nie
[20:17] <soee_> nice
[20:20]  * ahoneybun just thought of going to akademy with a GNOME laptop
[20:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: best not
[20:21] <soee_> someone can take a look @ #kubutnu and maybe help this user (vivid and systemd)
[20:21] <ahoneybun> Riddell: joke
[20:22] <Riddell> phew
[20:23] <Riddell> mparillo: you fell into the trap with that libreoffice blog and posted a screenshot of it on windows :)
[20:23] <Riddell> don't worry nobody will notice
[20:44]  * ahoneybun will try out Beta 2
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> beta 2 was released?
[20:46] <yofel> not yet
[20:46] <yofel> though the installation is in a reasonable state
[20:49] <soee_> can someone highlight on this chan ?
[20:50] <yofel> soee_: ping
[20:50] <yofel> though ubottu could do that too IIRC
[20:50] <soee_> yofel: thank you, seems like i had disabled notifications in systray
[21:05] <mparillo> Riddell: D'oh. I simply pasted from his blog post. And when you write 'nobody will notice' you noticed. As we used to say in New York, "What am I, chopped liver?" Meaning: "What? I do not count?"
[21:05] <Riddell> mparillo: only because he pointed it out to me :)
[21:05] <Riddell> and I sent him a better screenshot to put on his blog
[21:05] <ovidiu-florin> 13 more links to fix
[21:06]  * Riddell hugs ovidiu-florin 
[21:06] <ovidiu-florin> 12
[21:07] <ovidiu-florin> 11
[21:07] <ovidiu-florin> 10
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> 9
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> 8
[21:09] <soee_> :)
[21:09] <Riddell> ☺
[21:09] <ovidiu-florin> 7
[21:09] <Riddell> ༒
[21:10] <ovidiu-florin> 6
[21:10] <soee_> mparillo: ill do 1 or 2 test with 32bit isos
[21:11] <soee_> appmenu-qt5 is part of Plama 5 ?
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> 5
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> 4
[21:12] <Riddell> 
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> 3
[21:13] <Riddell> soee_: no and we don't install it any more since nothing uses it
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> 2
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> 1
[21:14] <Riddell> ⋯
[21:14] <soee_> Riddell: ok, it also breaks a lot Plasma5 https://plus.google.com/+AnoopPanavalappil/posts/Ao6K1ZWCnJF
[21:14] <soee_> i have installed this and can confirm what they write
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> DONE https://notes.kde.org/p/Kubuntu-new-site-pages-not-found
[21:15] <ahoneybun> seems I have a courthouse near me that I can apply for the passport Riddell
[21:15] <Riddell> soee_: what does it break? I don't see him complaining about appmenu-qt5
[21:15] <ahoneybun> awesome ovidiu-florin
[21:16] <ahoneybun> anything else needs doing ovidiu-florin?
[21:16] <yofel> kubotu: order whisky for ovidiu-florin
[21:16]  * kubotu throws a mighty fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood at ovidiu-florin.
[21:16] <kubotu> What are ye looking at?
[21:16] <Riddell> yofel: wait, he has 1 more to do!
[21:16] <soee_> Riddell: read the kaspers comment
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: no, It's done
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> I've made a backup already of the site
[21:16] <Riddell> soee_: hmm, strange
[21:17] <Riddell> 🎆🎇
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> now I just want lordievader to run his magical scripts to check everything
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> then I'll mark it as done in trello
[21:17] <Riddell> thanks ovidiu-florin, you're doing great
[21:19] <soee_> hmm fr i386 iso VB shows me FATAL: No bootable device found. System halted
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: how's the team page going?
[21:20] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I have it in sections for each person like we talked about 
[21:20] <ahoneybun> just need more names and what they do
[21:20] <soee_> wrr ma fault
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can I edit one thing?
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: are you working on it now?
[21:22] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: yea just let me get off
[21:22] <ahoneybun> go ahead
[21:22] <ahoneybun> I loged off
[21:22] <ahoneybun> *logged
[21:22] <ahoneybun> brb laundry
[21:23] <soee_> ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun consider using one of those http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/6-lazy-load-plugins-to-make-your-wordpress-site-faster/
[21:24] <soee_> if site uses images with big size lazy loading them might improve performace a lot
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: the images need to be optimized for the great internet
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'm done editing
[21:26] <mparillo> soee_: Thank you. I have done a couple of the easy ones. Even though I did not notice the missing images on the slide show.
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> finish adding them, and then I'll add some style to that page
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[21:46] <KDDA> anyone know how to fix the problem with MySQL not starting and affecting Akonadi and Kontact?
[21:48] <yofel> KDDA: a full error log would really help to narrow the error down
[21:48] <yofel> mine turned out to be lp 1435823
[22:04] <soee_> Riddell: what about User settings moduel in System Settings - any idea why its gone ?
[22:05] <yofel> *blink*
[22:06] <yofel> /usr/share/kservices5/user_manager.desktop: Exec=kcmshell4 user_manager
[22:06] <yofel> that looks wrong
[22:07] <soee_> thers no port to kf5 ?
[22:08] <yofel> that *is* the kf5 port
[22:08] <yofel> and our user-manager version is ancient
[22:08] <yofel>  user-manager | 4:5.1.95-0ubuntu1        | vivid/universe  | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[22:08] <soee_> hmm
[22:08] <yofel> it's fixed upstream FWIW
[22:09] <Riddell> yeah probably just needs a new snapshot taken
[22:09] <yofel> well, a release would be better. Is there a reason why there isn't one?
[22:10] <Riddell> cos a plasma dev grumped that it overlapped with the accounts kcm
[22:10] <Riddell> which has gone in 5.3
[22:10] <yofel> ah
[22:11] <yofel> soee_: anyway, kcmshell5 user_manager works fine if you need it
[22:11] <Riddell> we might want a snapshot of Touchpad kcm too
[22:11] <Riddell> great work testing yofel, soee_, mparillo :)
[22:15] <soee_> yofel: thanks
[22:16] <soee_> one month and we will have Plasma 5.3 :) and not so long ago we had 5.0
[22:18] <Riddell> and now we have fcitx for chinese users, woo
[22:18] <KDDA> yofel: looked at that bug and dont think its the same one Im seeing
[22:18] <KDDA> all the error log seems to say is "Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!"
[22:18] <_Groo_> can someone confirm that kde-telepathy is still broken in ci?
[22:19] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/atfJaJUJ
[22:19] <_Groo_> neither kde-telepathy nor kde-telepathy-minimal can be installed
[22:20] <soee_> im not using ci, ut kde-telepathy from archive in vivid works just fine
[22:48] <valorie> I'm sorry to report that systemd/sddm catfight continues in latest upgrades
[22:48] <valorie> systemctl start sddm starts it, but bleah
[22:51] <Riddell> seems like a recurring problem
[22:51] <soee_> mparillo: i did last test for i386
[22:51] <Riddell> but at least it's repeatable
[22:51] <soee_> mparillo: we have all now done
[22:51]  * Riddell high fives soee_ 
[22:51] <Riddell> baloo packages up so upgrade may work in a couple of hours
[22:52]  * Riddell snoozes
[22:53] <soee_> and we are after chineese ppl taht had kylin tested before us :)
[22:53] <soee_> but beeing second isn't that bad -.-
[23:11] <mparillo> TY soee_ I got to have dinner.
[23:17] <ahoneybun> is that daily image treated as Beta 2 RC?
[23:18] <yofel> yes
[23:18] <ahoneybun> thanks yofel I will download it tonight
[23:23] <soee_> i think i will install Vivid on my parents pc this weeknd :)
[23:26] <KDDA> soee: it ready for show time?
[23:26] <soee> works nice for me, so i gues yes
[23:27] <KDDA> I have a windoze 8 laptop Im just itching to format
[23:27] <KDDA> well 8.1
[23:28] <soee> install kubutnu next to it
[23:28] <KDDA> nah, I cant stand those fecking tiles!
[23:29] <valorie> rebooting still needs console: systemctl start sddm
[23:29] <valorie> if your parents can handle that until it's fix00red
[23:30] <KDDA> my box is reboot fine
[23:30] <KDDA> only problem I have at the moment is Kontact
[23:30] <KDDA> and the manual checking of 16 accounts is getting annoying!
[23:31] <valorie> oh, interesting
[23:31] <valorie> this was a fresh install of beta 1
[23:31] <valorie> and I did the updates today
[23:32] <soee> valorie: i dont have such problem on my laptop nor my work pc 
[23:33] <valorie> hmmm, I thought it was universal
[23:33] <valorie> stranger and stranger
[23:33] <KDDA> dont think so :/
[23:33] <valorie> I know I'm not alone for sure
[23:33] <soee> well at work i had a problem with sddm but used one comment that lordivader showed me and it works since then
[23:33] <KDDA> your just special
[23:33] <yofel> no, and for most people, enabling it once by hand fixes it
[23:33] <valorie> hmmm
[23:34] <soee> oh crap my cursor is gone oO
[23:34] <valorie> should I use something else than `start`?
[23:34] <soee> valorie: wasnt there soem command to enable it ?
[23:34] <yofel> valorie: what does status say for Loaded:... ?
[23:35] <valorie> yofel, full command I should type?
[23:35] <yofel> systemctl status sddm
[23:36] <valorie> oops, how do I pastebinit that again? systemctl status sddm | pastebinit ?
[23:36] <yofel> I just care about that one line
[23:37] <yofel> or well, whether it says enabled or disabled in the middle of it
[23:37] <soee> brb
[23:37] <KDDA> loaded and active here :)
[23:37] <yofel> valorie: you should see:    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[23:38] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10681193/
[23:38] <valorie> disabled
[23:39] <yofel> valorie: right, so 'sudo systemctl enable sddm' should fix it
[23:39] <valorie> excellent
[23:39] <yofel> Riddell: why does sddm still conflict with getty@tty1.service ?
[23:39] <mparillo> hmm, I have not had to systemctl start sddm on either Beta2 RCs.
[23:40] <valorie> so somehow this was fixed, strange
[23:46] <KDDA> valorie: have you tried a reboot?
[23:46] <valorie> after that command, no
[23:46] <valorie> busy with other things now
[23:46] <KDDA> no prob
[23:54] <yofel> *sigh* - this is 2015, and reasonable handling of broken network mounts on shutdown remains a dream...