=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [00:18] Yuken: you could probably ssh the items across and if it's linux to windows then use Putty on the windows side. [00:18] sorry wrong paste. [00:18] I have 2 pdf printers available. In the print dialogue the 2nd shows 'Print to File (PDF)'. It also doesn't show in CUPS or the gui printer setup dialogue. I need to change it's defaults. Any ideas where to look or how to do it? [00:22] Scunizi: does putty behave with scp? i'd generally recommend bitvise tunnelier for the windows side, makes life a lot easier, and when you establish a connection it gives a nice GUI file explorer you can use to drag and drop files between the local and the remote [00:23] SporkWitch, WinSCP also seems nice [00:24] Enkidu_ak: never used it. i came across tunnelier years ago and ended up just using that until i got rid of windows entirely [00:25] SporkWitch, Comander-style interface, nice queuing and scheduling capabilities, open source. [00:25] Enkidu_ak: it feels almost like having a normal ssh client + scp, only on windows. does file transfers, SOCKS proxy, terminal session. it might even allow X11 forwarding, but i never tried that [00:25] never used comander either lol [00:25] SporkWitch: I believe so. [00:26] I've never done any X11 forwarding in windows either. I don't use windows anymore so I doubt I'd have the opportunity to try it === ahoneycutt is now known as ahoneybun === carlo_ is now known as Guest34814 === kevin is now known as Guest56557 === ahoneycutt is now known as ahoneybun [07:20] Anyone here can guide me through the install? [07:28] I have some queries ... [07:29] Noah123: what's up :) [07:38] ahoneybun: Not so much :) I wanna dual boot install Kubuntu with Windows, currently I have Windows, and 80 GB unallocated space. I have Kubuntu on a bootable USB but I don't know what's next ... [07:39] Would appreciate help ...:) [07:39] what version of Kubuntu? [07:39] 14.04.2 [07:40] ok cool :) [07:40] let me grab the Docs and walk you though it [07:40] In PM or here? [07:40] here is fine [07:40] https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation [07:40] And thanks! [07:40] I wanna do it with dual boot [07:41] Thank you [07:41] as always make backups of everything [07:41] I don't have anything important [07:41] Anyway, the disk setup is the hard thing [07:41] I don't understand it [07:41] yea [07:42] are you on windows at the moment? [07:42] Yep! [07:42] I have an USB [07:42] with kubuntu [07:42] awesome [07:42] Well, I can chat with you on another computer [07:42] OK? [07:42] yea of course [07:42] Ok [07:42] one moment! :) [07:43] need to lookup the windows tool anyway [07:43] K [07:43] go tit [07:43] *got it [07:43] Okay I'm on another computer, now [07:44] sweet [07:44] on the windows computer hit the keys [07:44] :) [07:44] "win key + r" [07:44] And ...? [07:44] or search for disk management [07:44] done [07:45] I want to look at your current hard drive to know where the windows is [07:45] C:\ [07:45] so I know where not to touch [07:45] Don't touch C:\ or D:\ [07:46] think of your hard drive as a Sub [07:46] C:\ = Windows (235 GB empty) D:\ = Recovery Partition [07:46] before you install any operating system (windows, kubuntu) it is a whole sub [07:46] got it? [07:46] Maybe ... I have shrunk the C:\ partition and now I have 80 GB unallocated space ... [07:46] before [07:47] yea the C: partition is one part of the sub [07:47] so basically I have 80 GB unallocated space I can make partitions of [07:47] right? [07:47] yea [07:47] :) [07:47] so what's next? [07:47] is kubuntu on a dvd or usb? [07:48] USB [07:48] created with UNetbootin [07:48] if that's ok. [07:48] ok so put the usb in the computer that you want to install Kubuntu on [07:48] yea it works great with ubuntu (kubuntu, xubuntu) [07:48] them all that are based on ubuntu [07:48] Ok [07:48] And now? [07:48] I have the USB in the PC [07:49] reboot the computer [07:49] k [07:49] most computers have a key you have to press when booting up [07:49] yeah [07:49] F9 [07:49] to boot from a usb/dvd [07:49] press that [07:49] when it first boots [07:49] should pop up a menu to pick your usb from [07:49] When I do it it a screen comes, asking be to choose an option "Default" "Start Kubuntu" or wait for it to boot [07:50] unetbootin menu [07:50] start kubuntu [07:50] it will run a live Kubuntu [07:50] ok then this screen pop ups again [07:50] not doing anything to the hard drive (for now) [07:50] the menu is coming back on again? [07:50] Yes [07:51] but loadinh [07:51] now Kubuntu started! [07:51] awesomesauce [07:51] now on the desktop there is a widget with something called "install kubuntu" [07:52] yea [07:52] click that [07:52] Ok [07:52] it will start the install app [07:52] Should I connect to WiFi? [07:52] it asks [07:52] yea that is best [07:52] k [07:52] and to be connected to power [07:53] after that you should be here https://userbase.kde.org/File:Prepare.png [07:53] one moment [07:53] ok [07:54] wow 4am almost [07:54] Yep im there [07:54] ok check the 2 boxes [07:54] Ok! [07:55] Now? [07:55] done [07:55] click next [07:55] on the bottom [07:55] sorry continue [07:55] done [07:55] now does it show windows is installed? [07:56] It shows all my partitions plus the unallocated 80 GB space [07:56] ok good [07:57] click the manual button [07:57] 5th option [07:57] https://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/8/8b/KubuntuDiskSetup.png [07:57] ok [07:58] Continue? [07:58] yea on the bottom [07:58] done [07:58] now we should be here https://userbase.kde.org/File:Manual.png [07:58] https://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/b/b5/Manual.png [07:58] Yeah [07:58] it should show some partitions with NTFS [07:59] that is the windows os [07:59] yea [07:59] under type [07:59] and the unallocated free 80 GB space [07:59] don;t touch those [07:59] yea [07:59] click that then add [07:59] Ok [07:59] now? [07:59] make the size 72GBs [07:59] opps [08:00] yea yea [08:00] if you want to use the whole 80gbs [08:00] In MB? I can use 85899 (maximum) [08:00] MB [08:00] we will leave 8 for swap [08:00] Ok [08:00] 72GB [08:00] In MB how much? [08:00] let me check [08:01] But it says I have 85,9 GB [08:01] 85899 MB [08:01] to be exact [08:01] it never cuts it in perfect sizes [08:02] oh ok [08:02] as long as it is not NTFS we are safe [08:02] it unallocated [08:02] it's* [08:03] yea thats what we want [08:03] so what should I here? [08:03] ext4 is the file system type [08:03] yea [08:03] http://static.grabi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Hard-disk-partition-in-Ubuntu1.jpg [08:03] ext4 journaling file system [08:04] primary or logical? how much MB? beginning or end? Mount point? [08:04] primary, 72000, beginning, / [08:04] wait end [08:04] ok end [08:05] / is like C:\ [08:05] but for Linux/Unix [08:05] I have Swedish keyboard layout, but Kubuntu has US ... [08:05] now there should still be some space left [08:05] later in the installer you can change that [08:05] not sure if it has swedish in there but we'll see [08:05] ok [08:06] if not I'll file a bug [08:06] Thanks so much! [08:06] yes 13 GB [08:06] oh woo [08:06] *woo [08:06] crap [08:06] lol [08:06] it says :) [08:06] ok click that and then add like we did before [08:07] but it's "unuseable" [08:07] its not paritioned [08:07] can you click it? [08:07] and click the add button? [08:07] yes [08:07] no [08:07] not the add button [08:08] maybe we need to add the swap partition first ? [08:08] no we can remove the partition you just made and redo it [08:08] ? [08:08] click the ext4 / partiton [08:09] yes [08:09] and click delete [08:09] k [08:09] then select it again and click add again [08:09] there is an "undo" button also... [08:09] ok [08:09] you mean select.. the 80 GB unallocated space? [08:09] yea [08:10] done [08:10] and how much MB etc.? [08:10] 64000 [08:10] 64000? [08:10] primary, 64000, end, / [08:10] yea [08:10] before it was ... 72000 [08:10] 64000 = 64GB [08:10] ext4 or? [08:10] we did not have any space left for swap [08:11] ext4 [08:11] ok now we have 21,9 GB left [08:11] and it's unuseable [08:11] as before [08:11] what the [08:12] can't click Add [08:12] can you take a picture and upload it somewhere [08:12] maybe we need to create the swap partition first? [08:12] yes with my smartphone [08:12] I will get it right [08:12] ? [08:12] I make the / then the swap [08:12] Ok [08:12] how much ram do you have on the computer? [08:13] 4 GB [08:13] do you game or do video editing? [08:13] not so much [08:13] sometimes video editing [08:13] on Windows... [08:14] oh ok lets remove the partiton [08:14] and use the whole space [08:14] 86GBs [08:14] on the docs it says we need swap partition [08:14] under 4GBs of ram it is recommened [08:14] I have 4 GB [08:14] ... [08:15] tbh I'm running without it [08:15] You need swap if you ever intend to suspend [08:15] What do you mean? [08:15] "viloläge" [08:15] oh? [08:15] Oh ok [08:15] When I set it in sleep mode... [08:15] suspend to disk, hibernate perhaps is the proper term [08:15] hateball: any idea why the space is unusable? [08:15] one is to ram, the other is to disk, I forget which since I dont use it [08:15] after the / partition [08:16] ahoneybun: on one video they create the swap part first [08:16] and it works on the video [08:16] noah1234: I'm really sorry but I'm falling asleep [08:17] oh... [08:17] ok... [08:17] its 4am here lol [08:17] :D [08:17] I'm not really sure what you're trying to achieve here. If all you want to do is dualboot with Windows, the installer has an automagic option for that [08:17] when can we continue? [08:17] I'll be on later today [08:17] hateball: where? [08:17] ok ahoneybun cya! [08:17] hateball: sometimes it does not see the windows [08:17] noah1234: I'm reachable on email as well [08:18] email address in PM ahoneybun [08:18] * ahoneybun falls to sleep [08:18] ahoneybun: Is that a certainty in this case? [08:19] If the installer finds your Windows partitions, it should offer to "install alongside other OS" or some such [08:19] It doesn't [08:19] have this option [08:19] If the installer doesnt see the ntfs partitions, I'd reboot into Windows and run chkdsk on the partition/s first [08:19] It see the NTFS partitions [08:20] but not this option [08:20] "Windows 7 (ntfs)" [08:21] noah1234:Which version of Kubuntu is this? [08:21] hateball: 14.04.2 [08:21] Strange [08:22] Oh well, I havent dualbooted in aeons so I'll take a backseat here [08:22] Ok ....;( [08:23] "After installing Windows 7 or 8, you need to have a logical partition to install Ubuntu alongside it. If you don't have a logical partition then the option Install Ubuntu alongside Windows is missing." [08:24] If I create a logical partition of the unallocated 80 GB, would it work? [08:25] with this option [08:25] hateball [08:27] noah1234: Sure, you can partition manually and pick mountpoints and such, but you'll need to know what you're doing then so you don't accidentally lose data [08:28] But it says the "Install alongside Windows 7" will be available if I, before the installation create a logical partition of the unallocated 80 GB [08:28] would that work? [08:28] You could try, it wont break anything [08:28] There's a partition tool included on the live-usb [08:30] unetbootin? [08:35] noah1234: it shouldn't matter what application you used to burn the ISO [08:35] the iso has the partition tool included [08:35] kparted as I recall [08:36] valorie: do you have any ideas why the space is unuseable after creating the / ext4 partition? [08:36] I don't [08:36] ok... [08:39] !partition [08:39] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [08:40] probably the best advice in that link above, noah1234 [08:41] Well I don't understand this really [08:42] it does not come easily to me, for sure [08:42] every time I have to do it, I have to re-read the docs [08:48] ok... [08:56] hi - where is the best room to ask about upstart jobs (I 'm trying to work out why it doesn't start on boot) [08:57] Should the swap partition be logical? [08:58] noah1234: it doesn't matter [08:58] noah1234: also you can use a swap file for same performance (since kernel 2.6.x) [08:59] swap file? [09:00] yossarianuk: are you running the beta, or what? [09:03] valorie: the query regarding the upstart script I have made is on the LTS 14.04 [09:04] (I am running 15.04 beta @ home _) [09:04] and really liking it.... [09:04] ah, ok [09:05] There are a couple of issues with it - 1) no weather widget (2) when you go to unlock the desktop it doesn't focus in the password field [09:05] I know nothing of upstart scripts [09:05] true [09:05] I hope the weather widget will be coming soon [09:05] cool - my question really was the when is the best place to ask. [09:05] and there is a bug filed about the lockscreen [09:05] Well everything I want is to install Kubuntu using dual boot with Windows but it's not working!! [09:05] for now, what works is hitting tab twice [09:06] valorie: yep thats what I do.. [09:06] when you first login though it does focus.. [09:06] right [09:06] it is the lockscreen, something is stealing focus [09:07] last I heard, the thief had not been spotted yet [09:07] Obviously its the NSA........ [09:07] noah1234: people will be along soon who can help you [09:08] sorry, all I have to offer is that link, if the docs that ahoneybun linked you to earlier don't help [09:08] * valorie heads bedward [09:36] System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display. [09:36] dafuq is that? [09:36] Kubuntu 15.04 [09:39] when trying to open system settings [10:06] hi.. there is only one file in my flash memory bigger than 2GB (it's name is ????? so i can not rename it normaly). how can i find it and then rename it to "hello" for example??? [10:09] I have been trying to install Kubuntu with Dual Boot (Windows 7) for weeks now, I have no idea how [10:10] Can't someone guide me through the install? Please ... [10:11] :) [10:19] noah123: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot [11:22] good morning [11:55] 'Morning folks === madagu is now known as MadAGu [12:24] hi - will this be in 15.04 -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.2.2.php [12:25] yossarianuk: it already is :) [12:26] groovy ! [12:26] i.e 15.04 already has it ? [12:26] yossarianuk: hes if you are on daily updates [12:26] cool - I am @ home. [12:26] tomorrow final Vivid Beta will be released [12:26] 15.04 seems really nice BTW [12:26] and you can tets it [12:27] indeed :) [12:27] I shall do on my work laptop... [12:27] the nightly iso had issues with install (on uefi) [12:27] I had to install twice in order to get the UEFI entry,. [12:27] (nightly from 21 march) [12:29] oh [12:31] Hi [12:31] ahoneybun, are you online? [12:32] ;o [12:33] Hey! [12:33] :) [12:34] hiho Sparasite [12:34] soee, do you know much about (K)ubuntu? [12:34] Having problems [12:35] Sparasite: just ask [12:36] I have already did, a lot of times ... [12:36] No-one can really help [12:36] It seems like [12:36] Can you help me [12:38] I don't think many of us are mindreaders [12:38] Sparasite: how can we help if we dont now what the problem is [12:39] Sparasite: just ask the question........... [12:39] Well it's not the first time I ask this (no real answer). I don't know how to install Kubuntu using Dual Boot with Win 7 [12:39] Sparasite: what aspect are you having issues with ? [12:39] And I have problems when I do it [12:40] i.e ............. [12:40] And that's because I'm a newbie [12:40] I do it wrong [12:40] I have read all the docs etc, [12:40] Sparasite: simplest way ? install windoes, create separate partitions for Kubuntu and use Wubi to install linunx [12:41] and you are done [12:41] i assume you have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot ? [12:41] Wubi? [12:41] Yep [12:41] Sparasite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide [12:41] wubi isn't supported any more [12:41] But I wanna use Kubuntu [12:42] yossarianuk, "Wubi is an officially supported installer for Windows XP, Vista and 7 users that allows Ubuntu to be installed and uninstalled in a safe, easy way as with any other Windows application." [12:42] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-advice [12:42] 'Ubuntu Website Warns Windows 8 Users: Don’t Use WUBI' [12:42] I am using Windows 7 [12:42] but I see you said 7 [12:42] Yep :D [12:42] Is Wubi the recomemnded way? [12:43] For win 7 [12:43] wubi is awful [12:43] wubi is... I dont see why anyone would use it [12:43]