[08:43] <snadge> ok so something broke pptp vpn in network manager about 2 or 3 days ago
[08:44] <snadge> ive been waiting on an update to fix it .. just looked for an acknowledgement of the issue in launchpad.. nothing yet
[08:45] <snadge> im going to assume that its networkmanager thats broken.. i dont think its systemd related.. because it was working with systemd
[08:45] <ikonia> then why assume it's network manager
[08:45] <ikonia> as it was also working with network manager
[08:45] <ikonia> and now it's not
[08:45] <ikonia> so that doesn't really seem logical
[08:45] <snadge> thats what im trying to figure out.. it was working.. installed some updates.. now not working
[08:46] <ikonia> so again why assume it is  / is not a package
[08:46] <snadge> so im trying to figure out which update broke it
[08:46] <ikonia> have you logged a bug against it ?
[08:46] <ikonia> have you got other people to verify/test
[08:47] <snadge> not yet no.. since i dont know which update broke it.. and therefore what was responsible
[08:47] <ikonia> not sure what you want the channel to do then ?
[08:49] <snadge> NetworkManager[950]: <error> [1427273345.985261] [vpn-manager/nm-vpn-connection.c:1778] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2: (6) No agents were available for this request.
[08:49] <snadge> thats all i've got.. i've tried creating a new vpn connection and same thing
[08:49] <snadge> thats probably why i assumed it was network manager
[08:50] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/1297849 :D
[08:52] <ikonia> that doesn't look like the same bug
[08:56] <snadge> ok cool if i log in as a different user.. it works
[08:57] <snadge> so now i can at least assume that something in my users settings are screwed
[11:22] <soee> good morning
[11:26] <snadge> i still cant figure out how to reset networkmanager settings for a specific user
[11:26] <snadge> the documentation sucks
[11:27] <snadge> maybe the keyring is broken for my user.. i dont know
[11:28] <snadge> good morning :P
[11:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:52] <snadge> hmm.. dig deeper.. vpn works in unity, but not gnome-flashback
[12:53] <snadge> so its something gnome-session related
[12:57] <BluesKaj> probly network manager
[14:48] <micmord> Hello Kubuntu folks, what's the new Display Manager on Vivid?
[14:51] <micmord> After an upgrade the DM doen't start anymore
[14:52] <k1l> should be still lightdm
[14:52] <yossarianuk> micmord: possibly sddm ?
[14:53] <micmord> k1l: really "LANG=C apt-cache policy  lightdm --> Installed: (none)"
[14:54] <k1l> does it use ssdm?
[14:55] <micmord> sddm
[14:56] <k1l> yes, sorry typo
[15:01] <BluesKaj> micmord, sudo systemctl enable sddm
[15:02] <k1l> http://jriddell.org/2015/03/18/kubuntu-15-04-heating-up/
[15:07] <micmord> BluesKaj, k1l: thank you very much
[15:07] <micmord> It works again!
[15:08] <BluesKaj> yw, micmord
[15:34] <micmord> What about last i18n packages?
[15:34] <micmord> bug #1436395
[20:41] <maelcum> hello. i have permission issues with sound and graphics on vivid / systemd. alsamixer (and audio players) don't have permission to anything in /dev/snd/, and  glxinfo (and other opengl applications) don't have permission to anything in /dev/dri/.
[20:41] <maelcum> i am using a self compiled xorg stack and no pulseaudio
[20:41] <maelcum> i *am* in the audio and video groups
[20:42] <maelcum> from what ls displays, i should have permission through those groups. even clearing extended attributes (there was a + at the end of the permissions as displayed by ls -l) doesn't help.
[20:43] <maelcum> on /dev/snd/* and /dev/dri/* that is
[20:43] <maelcum> any ideas?
[20:43] <maelcum> how does one even debug why permission to something was denied if it's not acls and not posix permissions?
[20:49] <maelcum> what the... chmod ugo+rwx /dev/snd/* makes (at least) alsamixer work, chmod o-rwx makes it fail again. but i'm in the audio group!
[20:49] <maelcum> since two reboots ago or so, so it's not that my new membership hasn't propagated.
[20:50] <maelcum> what the hell is going on?