=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:59] * luckybunny hears there are a lot of other Aquaris owners here, so came to join the fold [00:59] in other words, my phone arrived :) [01:00] so far, the only problem i have is one I already expected. The OS is great, but there are quite a few apps that need to be developed before I can switch from my android [01:01] as in actual on-device things, not webapps [01:01] * luckybunny would get right on that if he knew the second thing about programming [01:04] luckybunny, any specific examples? [01:04] firstly an email app/scope that covers multiple gmail accounts, allows you to read the full email, and supports/uses audible notifications on email receipt (as opposed to a scope you have to manually refresh to see new emails from only one account, or the gmail webapp that you need to sign in to each account in individual sessions on the gmail website [01:05] also... citymapper [01:05] being a londoner, the closest thing I found to citymapper is a london underground scope [01:05] which I personally couldn't figure out [01:07] btw, I'm so happy that Telegram is not only supported, but pre-installed [01:07] I've used it for well over a year on my Xperia [01:08] ah.. there's another thing... A good robust IRC client, equivalent to Andchat, would be amazing [01:09] * luckybunny just realised that he was referring to push messages when he mentioned audible notifications [01:11] the tl;dr version is that i have always expected apps would be thin on the ground. There's more than I thought there would be, but mostly the ones I don't tend to use [01:13] luckybunny: what can't you figure out about the tube scope? [01:14] seems that you click a line and it shows an image of the map of the line, as opposed to letting you pick a station and see the upcoming timetable for that station [01:15] luckybunny: you pick a station by typing it in the search box [01:15] ah [01:16] might be handy to be able to list all the stations on a line with links to them, not sure if the scopes infrastructure is flexible enough for that at the moment though [01:16] I see [01:17] Scopes (particularly the Today scope) remind me of Google Now cards [01:17] which is a good thing, btw [01:20] :) [01:22] :) [01:22] luckybunny, I'm glad you like them === ahoneycutt is now known as ahoneybun [02:08] [Tue 2015-03-24 06:08:22 PM PDT] ah.. there's another thing... A good robust IRC client, equivalent to Andchat, would be amazing <---- not gonna happen. ever. by policy. [02:52] Hi :build issue:dbus-cpp/include/core/dbus/signal.h:21:25: fatal error: core/signal.h: No such file or directory [02:53] do you know core/signal.h? [03:11] and core::Signal is from core/signal.h? === yacuken_on_work is now known as yacuken [05:34] Hi :build issue:dbus-cpp/include/core/dbus/signal.h:21:25: fatal error: core/signal.h: No such file or directory [05:35] do you know core/signal.h? === ahoneycutt is now known as ahoneybun [06:06] JamesTang: i would guess part of libproperties-cpp-dev or if not then maybe libprocess-cpp-dev [06:17] core::Signal is from core/signal.h? [06:24] hi : core/posix/signal.h in libprocess-cpp-dev is not core/signal.h === tmpRAOF is now known as RAOF === ara is now known as Guest58945 === ecloud_wfh is now known as ecloud [07:14] JamesTang: yes better install the dependencies [07:14] JamesTang: as i said it is from libproperties-cpp [07:15] and use pkg-config and cmake [07:15] or a build tool === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:28] thank anpok_! [07:35] good morning [08:20] rsalveti, thanks, works now [08:21] HI , how to resolve :g++-4.9:armhf : Depends: gcc-4.9:armhf (= 4.9.2-10ubuntu11) but it is not going to be installed? [08:23] in cross build environment：/var/lib/schroot/chroots/vivid-amd64-armhf [08:28] HI , how to resolve :g++-4.9:armhf : Depends: gcc-4.9:armhf (= 4.9.2-10ubuntu11) but it is not going to be installed? [08:28] in cross build environment：/var/lib/schroot/chroots/vivid-amd64-armhf [08:40] ？？？ [09:03] hi guys, does anyone know who maintains nexus 5 images? [09:12] Tassadar: 09:03 < salvo80> hi guys, does anyone know who maintains nexus 5 images? [09:12] I know the guy, yeah, he's pretty cool [09:14] :) === yacuken is now known as yacuken_sleep [09:20] jgdx, hey, is there any reason you only comment approved https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/give-focus-to-entry/+merge/252594 ? [09:21] Hello guys, I'm connect throughout my aquaris [09:22] Is it normal the battery life is very short ?? [09:29] bzoltan_, dpm could you guys give JamesTang a hand for his cross build issues? [09:29] tvoss: sure, let me read back [09:29] bzoltan_, awesome, thank you [09:31] JamesTang: Let me understand the issue first :) What ubuntu do you use? What version of the click* packages (apt-cache policy click-dev -> pastebin it) do you have and what do you do when you see that? [09:35] Hi Tassadar! You are doing a great work ;-) === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth-afk [09:39] +1 [09:39] ++ === duflu_ is now known as duflu [09:51] hi bzoltan_:my ubuntu version is 14.4. [09:52] JamesTang: Okey, so it is the LTS edition. Cool, it is supported :) Do you have the Ubuntu SDK PPA enabled? [09:53] how to check whether enable SDK PPA? [09:53] or not === uber is now known as Guest16227 [09:54] I have execute :sudo apt-get install sbuild debhelper ubuntu-dev-tools packaging-dev [09:55] sbuild-update --keygen [09:55] mk-sbuild --target=armhf vivid === Guest16227 is now known as over === over is now known as uber [09:56] and then:sudo schroot -c source:vivid-amd64-armhf -u root [09:56] and then:(vivid-amd64-armhf)# apt-get build-dep --host-architecture=armhf [09:58] and then appear issue above [09:59] hi bzoltan_?? [10:00] JamesTang: I am here ... it is good to use my nick, so my irc client tells me that somebody needs me :D [10:00] the issue is in (vivid-amd64-armhf) [10:00] JamesTang: okey .. so you need this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ [10:01] thanks,i will read it [10:01] JamesTang: the main story is that you need the schroots set up by the click wrapper [10:02] Good morning all; happy Tolkien Reading Day! :-D === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson === lepusfelix is now known as luckybunny [11:28] is it me, or is that browser icon the safari icon from a mac? [11:30] and what on earth are the apps in the app store under the accessibility section? [11:31] it does look a bit like the safari icon, yes. [11:31] AlanBell: developers choose which category their app goes in. [11:32] loving the rest of it so far [11:33] few rough edges here and there, but it feels fast [11:33] and secure [11:34] android playstore is a virus nightmare [11:34] feel free to try to upload viruses :) [11:34] lolz [11:34] or maybe don't :) [11:34] I didn't say that ㋛ === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:34] * lotuspsychje didnt hear nothing [11:34] I'm not convinced Android has lots of viruses. It certainly has a lot of anti-virus packages. [11:35] and apps with crappy popup ads, or fake warnings [11:35] popey: readed an article even that flashlight app got malware inside [11:35] oh, sure. [11:35] (on android of course) [11:35] We need to be careful not to gloat over other platforms, our day will come when someone attacks us. [11:36] i agree on that one popey , stick to the alternate, safe ubuntu click apps :p [11:37] but i would have loved to see a terminal packages way, in the future [11:37] i have so many wanted apps to love on touch, like nmap [11:38] so far I am fairly happy with it, but I am learning it all from scratch, my prior experience with Ubuntu counts for nothing [11:39] maybe someone should 'cage' a terminal a safe way to install packages [11:40] anyone know how to get the home page of the today thing to display something more interesting than a review your google settings button [11:42] AlanBell, tap the "Get started" button on the very bottom [11:42] cwayne: ah, ok, I clicked something there and now it asks me how I am [11:43] bored, hungry, thirsty or stressed [11:43] it knows me too well [11:44] these is quite a curious list of feelings, "on the move" isn't really an answer to how do you feel, and the others, are kinda downers [11:45] you can't say you are feeling exhilarated, excited, extatic, astonished [11:46] oooh, I see what it does now, it fixes your downer [11:46] lol, I am stressed -> go have a hair cut === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === zhxt is now known as zhxt_afk [12:00] seb128, yes [12:01] let me know if it's good for top approve [12:14] hello, which image should I try on a nexus 5, vivid or rtm ? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:49] is there a way to cache data in an ubuntu webapp, so it can be displayed offline? [12:54] themeles: I believe so, but it has to be done on the webapp side, using the offline webapps spec: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/browsers.html#offline [12:55] themeles: i.e. if you're not the author of the webapp there's not currently much you can do about caching unfortunately [12:55] themeles: localstorage or the appcache http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/appcache/beginner/ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:58] Elleo: i m the author thanks for the hint. would you like to answer this question(asked by another user) http://askubuntu.com/questions/574068/ubuntu-webapps-caching-preload-offline-ability [12:59] Hello out there anyone who knows why I can't connect my Aquaris e 4.5 via cable to my mac? Android File Transfer doesn't work. [13:00] themeles: sure thing [13:02] I tried to reinstall the program and tried all usb ports on my mac, but nothing happend [13:02] At the beginning it went good for some time but know a few days later I can't connect. === dbarth-afk is now known as dbarth [13:06] paulito: the standard response would be, do you have a pin/password configured? the device still pin locked? is the developer mode active? [13:06] jgdx, it should be good to top approve yes, not sure why you only comment approve in those cases? [13:06] but no idea about mac osx [13:08] seb128, because I'm not sure why I should top approve. I thought the mr author requested that when happy with reviews. [13:08] jgdx, oh, weird workflow, to me the top-approver is a reviewer which knows enough the project to be happy for the change to land [13:09] jgdx, I don't top approve my own changes by principle, if I submit a mp it's because I think it's ready to be reviewed/commited [13:09] seb128, so … I'm Mr. Top Approver? [13:09] hey [13:10] or let it to kenvandine if you prefer ;-) [13:10] * kenvandine waves [13:10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHYFzDY9xnI [13:15] hey kenvandine ;-) === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson_ [13:32] How can I access an Ubuntuphone shell via USB. The description here seems not work anymore: http://askubuntu.com/questions/348714/ubuntu-touch-apt-get-install-openssh-server-error [13:33] hi guys, is it possible to share a 3G connection with a computer with the Ubuntu Phone ? [13:34] themeles, via USB or via ssh ? [13:34] themeles, the only valid instructions in that article are http://askubuntu.com/questions/348714/ubuntu-touch-apt-get-install-openssh-server-error/599041#599041 [13:35] themeles: both would be fine. Maybe SSH is even more convenient. [13:35] everything else would be a really gross hack [13:35] you need adb to copy the key over ... or you need to pull it with wget via the terminal-app and copy it in place as described there [13:39] ogra_: great, thank you. should we vote the answer up!? [13:39] that would be nice, yeah [13:40] maybe you can add a comment how to get into the developer mode, i haven't got enough reputation to comment. [13:40] ogra_ ^ [13:43] themeles, like this ? [13:44] jamesh, FYI bug 1436110 looks like mediascanner is exploding while scanning certain audio files, i've added ms2 as also affects. Also do you think that it is possible this is causing the database to be locked and imports failing? [13:44] bug 1436110 in Ubuntu Music App "Music refuses to play file opened via file manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436110 [13:44] ogra_ just mention thats it under systemsettings -> About Phone [13:44] themeles, yes, reload your browser ;) [13:45] ogra_: ahhh, YES! [13:45] :) [13:45] ogra_ thanks!!! [13:45] thanks for helping to improve it :) [13:49] ogra_ :-) [13:52] no idea about 3G connection sharing ? [13:52] I mean, turn the phone into a wifi hotspot [13:53] can I follow a desktop-ubuntu tutorial for this ? [13:53] ncls, not implemented yet ... [13:53] ogra_, ok. is this planned ? [13:53] ncls, indeed :) [13:53] cool ! [13:54] if you have the bq phone you can use USB tethering [13:54] as an alternative [13:54] ogra_, oh cool [13:54] how does this work ? I'll try to find docs about it [13:54] ncls, adb shell android-gadget-service enable rndis ... [13:55] should eb all you need ... then your desktop should start scanning for an IP on your USB0 interface [13:55] huh, what ogra_ ? [13:55] in some cases you need to disable the old connection [13:55] my laptop is a macbook [13:55] i'll get some docs [13:56] you need to enable developer mode and then use the android tool 'adb' as described by ogra_ [13:56] well, whatever your mac uses to manage the connections should recognize there is a usb0 interface it can use [13:56] right, either adb or you can call the command in the terminal-app [13:56] dobey, ok thanks. ADB is on the computer, right ? [13:56] yes [13:57] you will probably need to install the android sdk on mac to get it, or something similar [13:57] dobey, [13:57] ok [13:57] if you have ubuntu in parallels or something, you can install phablet-tools to get it, and use it on ubuntu [13:57] yeah, i guess just installing the terminal app and calling the command in there is easier [13:58] android-gadget-service enable rndis [13:58] ogra_, so I don't need adb ? [13:58] that switches the usb port to be a usb0 device [13:58] no, you can use the terminal-app [13:58] oh right, you can install the Terminal app from the store on the phone [13:58] to switch back you can call android-gadget-service disable rndis [13:59] (conveniently tab completion works also well with that ... ) [13:59] ah so I use the Terminal App on the phone and just launch android-gadget-service enable rndis ? [13:59] i.e.: and enable rndis [13:59] right [13:59] by the way, I was unable to use apt-get, is this normal ? I always get an error about "lock" [14:00] i must admit that i dont own a mac or windows PC ... so i'm not sure if/how it will work there [14:00] ogra_: does the current terminal app have a "tab" button? i didn't see one last time i was looking for that to mess with ofono scripts :-/ [14:00] i know it works with ubuntu desktops and laptops ... tested on plenty of them :) [14:00] dobey, no, you doubletap on the screen [14:00] ncls: yes, the phone / partition is read-only and it is not designed to work with apt [14:01] ogra_: oh, how intuitive :-/ [14:02] ok [14:02] thank you both for your help, I'll try that [14:02] what is "rndis" ? [14:04] ok found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNDIS [14:04] the network device type the android usb gadget driver provides [14:04] ok [14:05] what are the other android gadget services ? what are they used for ? [14:06] rsalveti, ping === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:08] AlanBell: sorry, moved it quickly to the top section [14:12] ncls, android-gadget-service was initially only written to en/disable services of the android usb gadget driver ... so originally it only has en/disable switches for adb, mtp (file transfer) and rndis ... nowadays it kind of grew a few tentacles ... like en/disable ssh [14:13] Heh, tentacles [14:13] ok ogra_ thanks ! So Canonical implemented stuff from android into the OS ? [14:13] I mean, they adapted and packaged them ? [14:14] ncls, yes, we use the android drivers inside a small lxc container ... [14:14] ogra_, ok cool [14:14] else you wouldnt be able to make calls, use any of the sensors etc ... [14:15] ogra_, you made a pretty good work ! the interface is awesome and the OS is promising. Sure it's hard to start from scratch, and it missed a lot of apps that I loved on iOS & Android, but I'm so glad you guys provided an alternative [14:23] ogra_, do you have a public roadmap or development blog where we can follow future devs & releases ? [14:24] the landing team (sil2100) sends daily mails to the ubuntu-phone mailing list, but that is rather technical [14:27] ok ... if you find some time to communicate about the dev on the website, that would be really cool, keeping us with "l'eau à la bouche" [14:28] Hello [14:29] hi [14:29] ncls, "find some time" ... thats the problem here :) [14:29] hehe, yes, I can guess [14:30] the trouble with finding time is that you can never get to the end of the rainbow [14:31] hm, a landing team blog doesn't sound like a bad idea [14:31] but if you do, you get the pot full of gold !! [14:31] (or just a carrot) [14:31] or unicorns [14:32] it's actually a pot of rufies [14:32] sil2100, yes that would be awesome, to know what's going on, what to expect, etc [14:32] but I understand that's an extra-work [14:33] so I can just ping you on IRC everyday to know what you are doing [14:33] yeah, you can definitely do that :) [14:49] peat-psuwit: pong [14:51] * ogra_ watches the ball flying over the net [14:53] rsalveti, Where should I handle multi-sim modem selection in a call, if it's not managed internally in audio chip? (as in bq) [14:55] peat-psuwit: it all depends how that actually gets set [14:55] peat-psuwit: you said rild was responsible, in your case, to set the active modem [14:55] talking directly to audioflinger [14:55] (this is only an issue because dual-sim wasn't properly supported by android, allowing the vendors to do such weird hacks) [14:56] peat-psuwit: do you know what are the calls that rild uses? also, do you know what they actually do at the hardware/HAL level? [14:57] rsalveti, It calls function AudioSystem::setParameters in libmedia. [14:58] with ioHandle=0 and keyValuePairs="vsid=(some number);call_state=(1 or 2) [15:00] peat-psuwit: iirc that goes directly to the audio HAL [15:00] do you have source code for that? [15:01] rsalveti, For audio HAL, it comes as a blob. [15:01] right, then you could mock audioflinger (so rild can call your service), and then just forward that to the HAL [15:01] without changing our userspace [15:02] rsalveti, I don't know how to forward that call. [15:03] As far as I know, audio HAL is loaded by pulseaudio. [15:03] peat-psuwit: let me find the interface for you [15:03] peat-psuwit: right, but you can use that in parallel with pulse [15:05] peat-psuwit: https://source.android.com/devices/halref/audio_8h_source.html [15:05] there is a set_parameters call in there [15:06] you could create an android service that would mock the audioflinger calls, that then would just call the HAL directly [15:06] and set the right parameters [15:06] hopefully that shouldn't case any conflicts with pulseaudio [15:07] rsalveti, What if AudioFlinger runs side-by-side with pulseaudio? [15:07] that would cause issues, for sure [15:07] but you can try [15:07] maybe if will just use these function calls you need [15:09] can i add custom stylesheets to a webapp? and how? (i'm not the hoster of the page) [15:09] rsalveti, Well, then let me try. I'm not familiar with writing service. [15:11] you could just fork audioflinger [15:15] whagts that [15:16] first off how do i get my phone out of the jolla logo its stuck [15:16] wrong place [15:17] indeed :) [15:17] jcbjoe: yep :) [15:17] lulz [15:25] kenvandine, want to take a look at [1]? You're third most familiar with that code, no? :) [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/apn-no-overwrite-1415495/+merge/254000 [15:31] hello ppl [15:31] hello Se7 [15:32] someone here get ubuntu phone ?? [15:32] hi ogra_ [15:32] I would imagine a few people do. [15:32] i m one of them :) [15:32] awesome ! [15:33] i notice that the bluethoot doesn t work very wel :( [15:34] did you update to the latest image already ? [15:35] can i talk here about some think about the phone yes?? [15:35] yes ogra_ [15:35] and i notice another think [15:35] what BT issues do you see ? [15:35] when i make video [15:35] essentially everything audio related should work [15:35] i cant play them through the gallery [15:36] can you play them from the video scope ? [15:36] yes from there yes [15:36] someone mentioned to me that their krillin kept disconnecting from their car stereo while playing podcasts (I think with podbird) [15:37] wondered if podbird may have been killed which might have caused it [15:38] popey, yeah, zymon reported something similar with lautfm-player [15:38] *szymon [15:38] i suspect if you run enough apps to get a bg app OOMed and your player is that bg app it dies [15:38] well, or if the screen locks [15:39] no [15:39] and the app isn't using the media player stuff [15:39] not with a proper app like lautfm-player or podbird [15:39] in my car he cant connect to the vivavoce [15:39] he recognise the phone but the call doesn t work [15:39] and same whit a galaxy s3 cant send image to ubuphone [15:40] obex support isnt there yet [15:40] so file transfer is not yet expected to work [15:40] will come with one of the next OTAs [15:41] kk [15:41] popey: podbird uses media-hub so I'd guess it'd have to be media-hub that's getting killed [15:41] Elleo, yeah, most likely OOMed [15:41] popey: unless media-hub stops a stream when the app that called it gets killed [15:41] HMM [15:41] asked him to test on the way home tonight, will try and get some more debug data from him [15:41] i.e. if you have the here maps up and the screen set to not suspend, it will constantly load maps ... [15:41] and slowly eat your ram [15:42] at some point it eats enough that the bg apps get OOM klilled [15:44] didn't realise here didn't free any of its unused tiles :/ [15:44] I should hurry up with getting modrana ported [15:44] not sure if they do or not [15:45] that was just an examply of how your ram can get eaten alive :) [15:45] ah, okay [15:45] *example [15:45] you can as well just use one of the 100 G+ apps from the store and keep scrolling [15:45] at some point it consumes all your ram [15:45] done saved [15:45] (and turns white) [15:45] sorry wrong tab [15:47] (or the uReadit app ... if you scroll long enopugh you hit the HW limits ... not much we can do about that ... apart from blaming mhall119 perhaps :) ) [15:48] topic [15:48] oops === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [15:49] ogra_: hey now, I unload images and even remove components when they're off-screen, you have to scroll a *long* way to encounter resource problems [15:50] * mhall119 suggests ogra_ spend less time on Reddit and more time optimizing Ubuntu's resource management [15:50] mhall119, long is relative :) [15:50] on a krillin long isnt as long as you might think :) [15:51] it's the web apps (and browser) that are the worst culprits, if I have Facebook and G+ and the browser open, it's going to kill something pretty much guaranteed [15:51] Hi, where is the SD mounted? [15:51] ogra_: ok, fair enough, it has less RAM than the N4 doesn'tit [15:51] dadexix86, under /media/phablet/ [15:51] ogra_: do you know if anyone's investigated using zram to reduce the memory constraints a bit? [15:51] Elleo, yes, i investigated that before we switched it on by default :P [15:51] lol [15:51] like 6 months ago :) [15:51] how big the sd it s supported?? [15:52] ogra_: ah, heh didn't realise it was already being used; cool [15:52] Se7, i run a 64GB one in mine .... "officially" only 32G are supported [15:52] ogra_, so I cannot save the photos to it, nor access it from the USB, right? [15:52] mhall119, yeah,. a lot less [15:53] dadexix86, the camera app has an option (swipe up from the bottom) ... [15:53] ok because my one doesn t be recognised [15:53] I wonder, if the online version of libreoffice is going to have a portable version on the phone, I wonder if the native one will to, and then I wonder how much tweeking it would need to beable to push a click package version that would fit in and work with ubuntu touch... I'm pretty excited xD [15:53] dadexix86, and via MTP connection you should see the SD to drop files onto it from your PC [15:53] let me see from terminal [15:53] Se7, needs to be vfat formatted [15:53] ok ogra_ tnx [15:54] there is a disk management tool on the phone you can use for that [15:54] ChloeWolfieGirl, you could nag SweetShark in #ubuntu-desktop to make sure he takes care that happens ;) [15:54] ogra_, thanks, one needs to reboot the phone after putting it in to have it shown in mtp :) [15:55] ogra_: do you know what brand of sd card you have out of interest? [15:55] ChloeWolfieGirl: at SCaLE I spoke to someone from LibreOffice about a mobile version, unfortunately the Android one wouldn't be easy to port, and the desktop one would need a lot of toolkit work, so the web might be our only near-term option [15:55] dadexix86, i never remove mine, not sure :) [15:56] mhall119, damn... [15:56] ogra_, mine just arrived from amazon, so I plugged it in with the phone turned on and connected to the pc. [15:56] it s possible to add apps to the menu bar?? [15:56] dadexix86, you need to unlock the screen [15:57] Se7, long press the icon when the app is running [15:57] (in the sidebar indeed) [15:57] mhall119, I'd be like "Lets hope the web app version is amazing" but then I imagine how much data it might take and how long it might take to load over things like 3g... [15:57] popey, having a hard time to find out the brand without unpligging the card ... i'll tell you if i found it :) [15:57] ogra_, I needed a reboot to have the SD shown in nautilus, even with the screen unlocked :) [15:58] dadexix86, ok, good to know ... i think mandel works on a fix for that [15:58] great ogra_ :) [15:58] Se7, you can also drag the icon in the position you want (in the sidebar), this will pin it [15:58] Se7, you can also re-order them that way, after long-press they are movable [15:58] *snap* [15:58] :) [15:59] ogra_, good to know that it is a known problem :) [15:59] tnx guys :)) [15:59] Se7: enjoy your phone :) [16:00] tnx mhall119 [16:01] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat /sys/devices/platform/mtk-msdc.1/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:0007/name [16:01] SD64G [16:01] thanks so much ... very informative :P [16:02] ogra_: "sudo lshw -c disk" might be more helpful :) [16:02] dobey, if we only would ship such bloat on the phone :P [16:04] ogra_: ls /dev/disk/by-id probably gives more info too :) [16:04] mmc-SD64G_0x012fabea you mean ? [16:05] oh i guess not then [16:05] well, it's useful for my bluray player :) [16:06] have you guys received tickets or remarks about ubuntu phone not being recognized on mac ? [16:06] because mine won't show up in Finder, but it works well on windows, and I can't find anything about this in Google [16:06] [ 1.388324] mmc1: new ultra high speed DDR50 SDXC card at address 0007 [16:06] [ 1.388651] mmcblk1: mmc1:0007 SD64G 58.4 GiB [16:06] not much in the boot lo either [16:07] *log [16:07] cyphermox, doe mac users need to do anything special for MTP to work ? [16:08] hmm, lshw doesn't actually so anything useful for an sd card in a usb reader for me either [16:08] yeah, because the reader shields it [16:08] native MMC readers should theoretically give you proper info [16:09] yeah [16:09] Se7, needs to be vfat formatted how to? in gparted i don t found that :) [16:09] never mind :) [16:09] ncls: does OSX support MTP? [16:09] ncls: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106156/does-mavericks-support-mtp [16:10] Se7: a windows FAT32 partition, and format it [16:10] okok [16:11]