[00:00] <daftykins> outlaw-666: so you don't want any data from it after all? fair enough
[00:00] <daftykins> might just be a bad reader
[00:01] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - read up on WPA-SUPPLICANT for Ubuntu there --> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.html maybe this will help you.
[00:02] <dna113p> What would happen if I run.... sudo rm -R /*
[00:02] <dna113p> ?
[00:02] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: Thing is, I can't DOWNLOAD wpa-supplicant.
[00:02] <BlackStar> hello
[00:02] <clmclm> dna113p, error after a few hundred deleted files
[00:02] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - how are you connecting to Freenode?
[00:03] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: Different PC.
[00:04] <happyfr0gg> Oh. Try to locate info on installing Ubuntu onto a sizable flash thumbdrive and use that to install Ubuntu onto the PC that you are wanting to connect to WPA WiFi.
[00:05] <Latrodectus> hi
[00:05] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: Thing is, I am allowed to do whatever I want to THAT PC. But, this PC that I am using is entirely locked down. No access to external drives, for example.
[00:06] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - Oh I see.
[00:06] <daftykins> seems you've already broken that rule :(
[00:07] <Yuken> daftykins: What do you mean, exactly?
[00:07] <Latrodectus> Yuken: my advice ask admin
[00:07] <daftykins> nevermind, the grown up action here is to explain the difficulty and resolve the wired / wireless networking access or get an alternative solution
[00:07] <daftykins> not hop through hoops because you've got a crazy hair-brained scheme :)
[00:08] <Yuken> But... he would take DAYS to fix it so I learn my lesson of accidentally screwing my Windows install.
[00:08] <Yuken> And this is the PC that I watch crap on when going to sleep, XD.
[00:09] <outlaw-666> daftykins, i would love to be able to have something from the card ... but i cant do it :(
[00:09] <daftykins> super important then
[00:09] <daftykins> outlaw-666: k
[00:10] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: My question is: does the base Mini Ubuntu install, with "Base Server" as my option, come with the stuff necessary to allow it to be a file server? So I can copy the needed packages over to the PC.
[00:12] <Scunizi> I have 2 pdf printers available., One is cups-pdf. In the print dialogue the 2nd shows 'Print to File (PDF)'.  It also doesn't show in CUPS or the gui printer setup dialogue. I need to change it's defaults. Any ideas where to look or how to do it?
[00:13] <mirtx2500> lol
[00:13] <mirtx2500> the kde tempature widget refuses to tell temps in celcius
[00:13] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - i am sorry, I am not familiar with the server iteration of Ubuntu.
[00:13] <mirtx2500> even when chaging the KDE local to Metric units it still uses degree's F even though the numbers are celcius
[00:13] <mirtx2500> LOL
[00:14] <Scunizi> Yuken: I don't think so.  That's why it's a "mini" install..
[00:15] <Yuken> Scunizi: Well then, I'm screwed. Guess I'm gonna go sneak around, make a pc-to-pc wep network, enable internet connection sharing, and install the packages.
[00:16] <Latrodectus> is your bios locked?
[00:16] <daftykins> yeah, i think the sneaking around element is what makes it a bit too frustrating to assist with
[00:16] <Latrodectus> yuken: is your bios locked?
[00:16] <Yuken> Latrodectus: Yes.
[00:16] <Scunizi> Yuken: you could probably ssh the items across and if it's linux to windows then use Putty on the windows side.
[00:17] <Yuken> Scunizi: Windows to Linux, since my only way of connection is WPA2 Wifi
[00:18] <happyfr0gg> daftykins - agreed. Nobody wants to be an accomplice to someone who may be committing something illegal. The federallies monitor this channel and if anyone disagrees then they probably are stupid.
[00:18] <Enkidu_ak> Yuken, rsync over ssh is probably your best bet in that case.
[00:18] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: don't be silly, it's that the task isn't grounded with sense... it's someone messing around because they won't own up about a mistake and talk to their parents
[00:18] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: Entirely legal, but I understand.
[00:19] <Enkidu_ak> Yuken, Or winscp.
[00:19] <happyfr0gg> My understanding has been cleared. No flaming please.  :-)
[00:21] <Yuken> daftykins: Main reason si that I don't want to wait a damn week for my father to reinstall Windows.
[00:21] <Yuken> daftykins: Not that I don't want to say that I made a mistake, but I don't want to wait that long q.q
[00:21] <Arrick> clmclm, I posted my question....
[00:22] <Latrodectus> yuken: is your cd tray locked?
[00:22] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - here is some more info on WPA-Supplicant - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[00:22] <Yuken> Latrodectus: No, but no CDs/DVDs
[00:23] <daftykins> Yuken: seems like you live in a police state for sure :P "only faja may install the OS"
[00:24] <Latrodectus> yuken: could you buy some discs, and do you have access to another computer?
[00:24] <Yuken> Latrodectus: Only the PC I am using right now, entirely locked down.
[00:24] <Latrodectus> yuken: not even a library?
[00:25] <Yuken> Latrodectus: The library doesn't allow you to connect external devices to their PCs.
[00:25] <Latrodectus> yuken: what about an internet cafe
[00:26] <Yuken> Latrodectus: None of those.
[00:26] <Desez2tPunk> Does anyone have a nice non-boring guide/tutorial on getting into Ubuntu and learning more about Linux?
[00:28] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - McDonald's has free WiFi but if you want unfiltered access to the Internet TOR is the way to go.
[00:28] <Enkidu_ak> Desez2tPunk, Define non-boring? It's easier to focus on a specific need and work from there. Was there something specific that you wanted to do? MythTV setup, various multimedia manipulation and productions, LAMP servers?
[00:28] <bazhang> !manual | Desez2tPunk
[00:28] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: TOR has been blocked.
[00:28] <k1l_> Desez2tPunk: just start to use it :)
[00:29] <happyfr0gg> Yuken - what do you mean TOR has been blocked? Are you referring to the WiFi network you are currently on?
[00:30] <Yuken> happyfr0gg: TOR, the website and proxies, have been blocked. And, I can't manually change my proxy, dns, etc, either
[00:30] <Desez2tPunk> Enkidu_ak, I would like to start learning most of the terminal commands, for instance, I suppose you could say become "fluent" in using the terminal and knowing more about the outputs of info commands that I use. Non-boring as in not just a list but a tutorial or guide that eases you into learning it instead of drilling a list into your mind.
[00:30] <Desez2tPunk> Thanks for the response ubottu, will be sure to look at it
[00:32] <happyfr0gg> Yuken, too bad I am not with you or else I would have pwned their PC and helped you out. I have pwned a few library PCs in my day. Some of them are set up by noob network sys admins.
[00:32] <Enkidu_ak> Desez2tPunk, Again, need is really the key here. Just keep using it and eventually you will want to do something that you don't know how to do. If you are looking for a goal until you find some of your own interests, you can always pursue Linux From Scratch. You will learn more about terminal than you could ever wish for.
[00:33] <Desez2tPunk> Enkidu_ak, So then how would you suggest pursuing Linux from scratch?
[00:33] <Enkidu_ak> Desez2tPunk, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is a good place to start
[00:34] <rypervenche> Desez2tPunk: You might find that boring, lol. Try out http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php (click on Download it here) for a nice PDF on the command line.
[00:34] <Enkidu_ak> Desez2tPunk, Basically the guides there will walk you through building a linux system from the ground up
[00:35] <Desez2tPunk> Hmmm... Thanks for the responses Enkidu_ak and rypervenche we'll see where it leads :D
[00:35] <Enkidu_ak> Desez2tPunk, In addition to telling you which commands to use, they explain what the function of those commands are, what their various flags mean and why you are using them
[00:46] <happyfr0gg> Desez2tPunk - try these books ---> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10673945/
[00:49] <happyfr0gg> Enkidu_ak, which distro would benefit Desez2tPunk? Arch or Manjaro?
[00:50] <Enkidu_ak> happyfr0gg, If he wants to tinker and explore I would actually recommend Slackware
[00:50] <bazhang> happyfr0gg, since this is #ubuntu , thats hardly ontopic here
[00:50] <Enkidu_ak> bazhang, Fair point
[00:50] <bazhang> try ##linux please for that
[00:56] <tallymarkd> what up?
[01:02] <tallymarkd> hello world!
[01:04] <daftykins> tallymarkd: *not* a chat channel :)
[01:05] <Loshki> I want all sound on my ubuntu server to be redirected to a remote ubuntu desktop. I've only ever seen this work with rdp to a windows server. VNC seems to do everything I need *except* audio. Is there some pulseaudio magic? Does NX support this?
[01:06] <Latrodectus> loshki, why?
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> Loshki: jack connecting everything to a mumble connection which then carries it to the other machine?  I've done it for music over mumble before, never tried for *
[01:07] <Enkidu_ak> Loshki, Pulseaudio does support remote sinks.
[01:08] <Enkidu_ak> Loshki, It's complicted, but well documented.
[01:09] <Loshki> SchrodingersScat Enkidu_ak thanks, will check out the pulseaudio docs, then mumble.
[01:09] <Loshki> Latrodectus: seriously? Because it's in there and I'm in here...
[01:10] <Latrodectus> ok
[01:11] <SchrodingersScat> Enkidu_ak: that's neat, thanks
[01:13] <Enkidu_ak> SchrodingersScat, I set it up to play with once a few years ago. Lots of fun, but I didn't really pay much attention to the settings and one of the other boxes in the house kept getting my audio streams by accident. Lots of fun, made for some awkward and hilarious moments.
[01:13] <Moonlightning> So…my /boot and /boot/efi partitions got overwritten
[01:15] <Moonlightning> Luckily the main partition seems to be fine
[01:15] <Moonlightning> I have the system booted to a liveusb, with said partition mounted, and I'm trying to figure out how to rebuild /boot and /boot/efi
[01:16] <Latrodectus> moonlighting, what version of ubuntu?
[01:16] <Moonlightning> Latrodectus: Utopic Unicorn.
[01:17] <Moonlightning> (i.e. 14.10)
[01:17] <Latrodectus> this might help http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/bootrepair.html
[01:18] <tallymarkd> i am in love with ubuntu
[01:21] <Latrodectus> tallymarkd, what do you like most about it?
[01:21] <Slade-> is there an easy way to set g+x on every directory within a tree
[01:21] <Slade-> chmod g+x btw ;P
[01:22] <Latrodectus> Slade, make a script
[01:23] <Latrodectus> slade- this might help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3740152/how-to-set-chmod-for-a-folder-and-all-of-its-subfolders-and-files-in-linux-ubunt
[01:23] <Slade-> Latrodectus, soon as i said it i realized i could just use find :p
[01:23] <Slade-> ah and thats what you pasted :)
[01:23] <Slade-> cool
[01:24] <Latrodectus> XD
[01:24] <tallymarkd> well, i just got it today. ive been trying for weeks. but then forgot, oops. but i guess i like how simple and fast it is. also all the apps and everything from windows i like, has some ubuntu equivalent like chromium, you know?
[01:25] <Moonlightning> Slade-: you could `chmod -R g+X` if you don't mind all the files that have any of [ugo]+x  set already also being set g+x
[01:26] <Slade-> Moonlightning, thats actually what i was looking for. i thought it existed but couldnt figure it out. cap X eh
[01:27] <Slade-> it was hard to spot the problem because they are also all S in the group execute spot :p
[01:27] <Moonlightning> :p
[01:27] <Guest56212> i didnt give my swap partition enough room and now i need to move my linux partition, but gparted says it will fail to boot. Help please? im trying to increase my swap partition
[01:27] <Moonlightning> Yeah, gotta read the manpage /carefully/
[01:27] <Moonlightning> easy to miss IIRC :)
[01:28] <Moonlightning> Latrodectus: boot-repair? Doesn't that start by trying to reinstall grub? 'cos I tried that already.
[01:28] <Moonlightning> It complained that it couldn't find the EFI directory.
[01:28] <Latrodectus> well shit
[01:29] <Moonlightning> Yeah.
[01:29] <Latrodectus> moonlighting, but can you still access the data?
[01:29] <Moonlightning> Latrodectus: I've spot-checked the main filesystem. Most of the stuff there seems to be intact.
[01:30] <Latrodectus> then swap it to a storage device, and then get a new hd
[01:31] <Latrodectus> or reformat the old one
[01:37] <drose379> Anyone have an issue where the lock screen freezes when waking up from hibernate? Using ubuntu/ running cinnamon DE
[01:39] <Latrodectus> in the past, i did
[01:39] <Arrick> Amm0n, I finally got the resolution to work on xubuntu tonight...
[01:40] <drose379> Latrodctus did you ever find a fix
[01:40] <Foxhoundz> what is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[01:40] <Foxhoundz> and which one should I use to regularly update Ubuntu Server?
[01:40] <Latrodectus> nope, I think it was a combination of hardware and firmware
[01:41] <drose379> So you just didnt use hibernate?
[01:41] <Latrodectus> I now use lubuntu
[01:41] <drose379> Lubuntu?
[01:41] <drose379> Whats that
[01:41] <Latrodectus> lite-ubuntu
[01:41] <Latrodectus> based off lxte
[01:42] <drose379> oh ok ,just bought a brand new thinkpad
[01:42] <Latrodectus> http://lubuntu.net/
[01:42] <drose379> So it dont wanna have to run something light weight
[01:42] <drose379> Been having a ton of issues with this thing
[01:43] <Latrodectus> drose379 that explain's everything, theri have been tonnes of issues with linux and thinkpads
[01:43] <cbuckley> hi there, i have a question about upstart. how can i send a command if a process dies and is respawned?
[01:44] <drose379> Latrodecuts just recently? or forever?
[01:44] <Latrodectus> forever
[01:44] <drose379> What you thihnk I should do?
[01:44] <drose379> Return it?
[01:44] <Arrick> Whats a good web development tool that will highlight or tab complete tags that can be put onto xubuntu?
[01:44] <Amm0n> Arrick, nice, using lightdm to pass xrand?
[01:45] <Latrodectus> i think it is eithe a firmware issue (drivers)
[01:45] <Latrodectus> *i think it is probably a firmware issue (drivers)
[01:45] <Enkidu_ak> Foxhoundz, This person has a much more concise answer than what I was going to give you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[01:45] <Arrick> Amm0n, I followed the top section of http://askubuntu.com/questions/445957/why-dont-my-lightdm-conf-edits-affect-my-desktop-screen-resolution
[01:45] <Latrodectus> idk
[01:46] <Amm0n> Arrick, my gf is using aptana
[01:46] <Arrick> for web dev?
[01:46] <Foxhoundz> Hmm
[01:46] <Arrick> or is that a distro?
[01:46] <Foxhoundz> Enkidu_ak: so full-upgrade is just an alias for dist-upgrade
[01:46] <Foxhoundz> ?
[01:47] <Amm0n> web dev
[01:47] <Foxhoundz> *cough* Sublime
[01:48] <Arrick> to be honest, I just would like something that will highlight code and tab complete stuff (preferrably while the site is remote, and not have to ftp back and forth)
[01:48] <Enkidu_ak> Foxhoundz, Essentially, yes.
[01:49] <Foxhoundz> Arrick: vim.
[01:49] <Foxhoundz> or Sublime with an SFTP plugin
[01:49] <Enkidu_ak> Foxhoundz, The history of that alias is dull and contentious. You should look it up :D
[01:50] <Arrick> Foxhoundz, is that configurable to be easier on the eyes?
[01:50] <Foxhoundz> how much controversey would there be over an alias :p
[01:50] <Foxhoundz> Arrick: with a little elbow grease, yes
[01:50] <Latrodectus> you would be surprised
[01:50] <Arrick> lol
[01:50] <Enkidu_ak> Foxhoundz, I would like to answer that with "None, it would be silly to argue over such a thing", but I can't
[01:53] <Arrick> Amm0n, msg
[01:54] <apaukraine> 123
[01:57] <cluelessperson> is there any way to use a gpu card to run or handle some of the load for an ubuntu server?
[01:58] <Guest56212> lol
[01:59] <cluelessperson> Guest56212, what
[02:00] <Enkidu_ak> cluelessperson, I think that it is theoretically possible, but GPUs are not really great for that kind of processing. I think that the load balancing overhead would probably kill any advantage that might be gained.
[02:00] <Enkidu_ak> cluelessperson, I know that seti@home and folding@home used client GPUs for their projects.
[02:00] <cluelessperson> Enkidu_ak, as an example, if I wanted to run a stupid minecraft server, couldn't it be used to handle world generation?
[02:01] <cluelessperson> Enkidu_ak, They do, but had my desktop do that stuff. :P
[02:01] <KaZ> h
[02:02] <KaZ> hello
[02:02] <Enkidu_ak> cluelessperson, Try it, it might work out. I'd be interested in seeing the source for a minecraft server that balanced the load with a GPU
[02:04] <Enkidu_ak> cluelessperson, You might start with rtkit-daemon as a model. It doesn't really mess with the GPU at all, but it does handle scheduling for dbus apps in userspace. I bet some of that could be adapted.
[02:06] <_raul> hey guys, quick question: i have a server, and an upstart script. same thing on 8 servers. at the same TIME, all 8 get killed and respawned ... 2-3 times. they're using upstart. Any clues why and what and where should i look for ? Upstart script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10674338/
[02:07] <bilb_ono> I need help accessing my modem's settings so I can set up my router. I am hooked up via ethernet right now to the internet. What ip should I enter into my browser to see the settings?
[02:08] <novak_br> linux was boring, because you needed to do everything (write the driver code, set the configurations and load the proper drivers)... now, linux is boring, because everything is done, you don't need to write the driver code, set the configurations, load the proper drivers...
[02:08] <bilb_ono> 192.168.1.1 doesn't seem to work
[02:09] <bilb_ono> nor 192.168.0.1
[02:09] <bilb_ono> i know it will give me the right one in ifconfig but Im not sure which one I should use?
[02:09] <novak_br> I'm arrived right now, bilb_ono
[02:09] <novak_br> what do you want exactly?
[02:10] <bilb_ono> I want to set up my router ( name of the wifi and its password) I see online that I do this by connecting via ethernet (done), and then looking at the router's settings via 192.168.1.1
[02:10] <bilb_ono> this doesn't resolve for me, so mine must be different
[02:10] <bilb_ono> I want to find it
[02:11] <novak_br> are you trying to find it by wifi connections?
[02:11] <bilb_ono> im not sure what that means. I don't even have wifi turned on right now. I am connected via ethernet
[02:11] <novak_br> first configuration should be made by cable connections...
[02:11] <bilb_ono> yeah I am
[02:11] <novak_br> ok
[02:11] <bilb_ono> now I want to setup wifi
[02:12] <novak_br> what is the brand/model/serie of your router?
[02:12] <bilb_ono> netgear n600
[02:12] <Bashing-om> bilb_ono: -> ip route show <- "default via" will be the router .
[02:14] <bilb_ono> Bashing-om, outputs this: https://bpaste.net/show/0ba522a89194
[02:14] <bilb_ono> which one is it?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> bilb_ono: default via 98.171.184.1 . Try that one .
[02:15] <novak_br> 98.171.184.1
[02:16] <bilb_ono> Bashing-om, novak_br it can't be resolved in the browser at least: this webpage is not available
[02:16] <bilb_ono> though it seems I can ping it
[02:17] <novak_br> humm...
[02:17] <novak_br> bilb_ono, wait
[02:17] <novak_br> I'll brb
[02:18] <novak_br> bilb_ono, try http://192.168.1.2
[02:18] <novak_br> on your browser
[02:20] <novak_br> bilb_ono, can you get it?
[02:20] <novak_br> bilb_ono, did you get it?*
[02:21] <bilb_ono> novak_br, no "this webpage is not available"
[02:21] <bilb_ono> this one took a while though before failing
[02:22] <bilb_ono> and again I can ping it successfully
[02:22] <novak_br> something is wrong
[02:22] <MrRobinhood5> anyone has taken the ruby course in codecademy  ?
[02:23] <kikoo_> !java
[02:24] <novak_br> bilb_ono, what is model of modem like WNDR3400v2?
[02:24] <bilb_ono> novak_br, wait the router doesn't have to be plugged in or anything yet right?
[02:24] <bilb_ono> so far we are just doing modem stuff
[02:25] <bilb_ono> modem = motorola SB6121
[02:25] <novak_br> yeah, the router has to be plugged on computer at the first time
[02:25] <novak_br> to make the first settings
[02:25] <d2l> bindi: try http://192.168.100.1 for modem
[02:26] <bilb_ono> d2l, I can't access that
[02:26] <novak_br> you use the ethernet cable
[02:26] <bilb_ono> novak_br, so the ethernet cable is plugged from the modem into my computer right?
[02:26] <bilb_ono> do I also plug something into the router?
[02:27] <bilb_ono> I only see 1 ethernet port on the modem
[02:27] <novak_br> do you want to share your internet via wifi, right?
[02:28] <d2l> bilb_ono: what exactly are you trying to accomplish right now? configure modem or router?
[02:28] <bilb_ono> d2l, I want to set up my router - the wifi name and password, etc.
[02:28] <bilb_ono> I have the modem plugged into my computer via ethernet so I know that part is working
[02:29] <bilb_ono> now I would like to plug it into my router and have the router route the signal all over my house via wifi
[02:29] <bilb_ono> idk what steps to take to do that
[02:29] <bilb_ono> oh and my computer is running ubuntu
[02:29] <novak_br> ok
[02:29] <bilb_ono> lol idk if that matters anymore
[02:29] <novak_br> let's start the begin
[02:30] <aldo> hi guys
[02:30] <aldo> how i can find "Vala" guide?
[02:31] <novak_br> your router and modem should be connect like that, bilb_ono  >>> http://prntscr.com/6l0z4q
[02:31] <drose379> Hey guys I could really use some help
[02:31] <bilb_ono> novak_br, ohh I see. so I need 2 ethernet cables
[02:31] <drose379> My brand new laptop running ubuntu is only charging one of the batteries to 79%
[02:31] <novak_br> bilb_ono, you don't make this connections yet, because you will stay out
[02:32] <novak_br> yeah, bilb_ono
[02:32] <drose379> Unless I unplug and plug it back in
[02:32] <bilb_ono> so Im gonna do that, get disconnected, and come back on
[02:32] <drose379> Im running 14.4.02 LTS, is there a more stable version I should be running?
[02:32] <novak_br> modem gets dsl signal from your ISP and it should be connect to router
[02:33] <novak_br> modem -> router -> computer
[02:33] <novak_br> bilb_ono, no no
[02:33] <novak_br> don't disconnect
[02:33] <novak_br> you need to know things before
[02:34] <bilb_ono> I think I know the configuration. modem to router
[02:34] <bilb_ono> router to comp
[02:35] <novak_br> bilb_ono,  look this video before > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mQvPzJOQEI
[02:36] <novak_br> the girl will teach how to connect everthing
[02:37] <brycetd19m> So while working on my hardware issues with ubuntu and other os's I've noted that unless I set the max hardware multiplier ubuntu hangs at 400mhz. Really sick of doing that and dealing with thermal throttling and such.
[02:37] <mrkirby153> Why is g++ so outdated?
[02:37] <mrkirby153> And how do I update?
[02:41] <brycetd19m> Anyone know why linux does that? It's the stupidest I have ever seen it..it's completely unable to manage or even see the cpu clock see speeds nor is it able to change them.
[02:41] <Latrodectus> ?
[02:42] <Latrodectus> brycetd19m, ?
[02:42] <novak_br> what, brycetd19m ?
[02:42] <novak_br> linux shows those things almost by default
[02:43] <lasdam1> hi all. I'm stuck in recovery mode because when I try to boot up normally I get stuck in low graphics mode just loading indefinitely. by pressing ESC I noticed the log was full of "start network manager OK", like at least 20 entries of that, and also Gnome Manager OK was entered twice.
[02:43] <lasdam1> all I think I did and could find that I did before this happened was remove selinux which I installed before and which did not cause this problem, as I rebooted several times without problems. I've opened up all top 10 entries from google and followed the various instructions, like re-install intel drivers, add some different repository,
[02:43] <lasdam1> reinstall ubuntu-desktop, reinstall gdm, and more. I'm basically out of ideas.
[02:45] <Latrodectus> lasbam1, what are your pc specks?
[02:45] <brycetd19m> Well on my system if I boot ubuntu or Debian or arch all of them have the same annoying problem. They system is completely unable to even check for a cpu speed higher then 400mhz. The only way to force it to is if I manually set the OC to the max multiplier and that makes it thermal throttle
[02:46] <lasdam1> it's an acer aspire 3830t, i5 cpu, 8gb ram, 500gb ssd, should be latest ubuntu version, and i64 architecture
[02:47] <Latrodectus> lasdam1, have you tried a fresh install? (reinstalling)
[02:50] <lasdam1> no, it's not that much of an emergency yet.. I'm pretty sure it would work, but I think it's way too early for that; re-installing is a pain too, not the installation process, but getting everything else installed, like all kind of tweaks, driver fixes, all of the additional software, backing up everything when I pretty much have my files kinda scattered, etc
[02:51] <lasdam1> it usually take me like a week to get everything installed and working again after a fresh install
[02:52] <lasdam1> I'm just pretty much a linux newb or so I consider myself, so I expected there to be more solutions/ideas to be tried out :S
[02:54] <Latrodectus> lasdam1, look at your log files
[02:56] <poetring> hi
[02:56] <poetring> suck my dick fuckers
[02:56] <lasdam1> yeah, I checked out Xconf.log.old, and I tried looking through it, but nothing immediately stuck out to me, but it's also a relatively large log file
[02:57] <lasdam1> it said something about driver not found, but it was for seemingly arbitrary devices, like the webcam and stuff, I'll try to find it again
[02:57] <Latrodectus> interesting
[02:58] <bilb_ono> novak_br, ok so I tried what the girl in the video said and failed. I unplugged everything, plugged in the modem then the router, connected them via ethernet cable
[02:58] <poetring> elky: suck my dick idiot
[02:58] <bilb_ono> waited for the lights to stop changing, and then another ethernet from one of the switches into my computer
[02:58] <bilb_ono> no signal
[02:58] <bilb_ono> does the switch port matter? there are options 1,2,3,4
[02:58] <bilb_ono> I tried 1 and 4 but same result :(
[02:59] <bilb_ono> did I miss a step?
[02:59] <Latrodectus> switches are all the same bu default
[03:00] <lasdam1> this is basically the end of Xorg.0.log.old http://pastebin.com/etF11Sra
[03:00] <novak_br> bilb_ono, hi
[03:01] <novak_br> bilb_ono, it fails because you need to make the settings
[03:01] <Arrick> is there a software for ubuntu that will allow me to "build" a home, and it will give me the materials needed in a list?
[03:02] <bilb_ono> novak_br, ok I see
[03:04] <novak_br> once, all things be done, you need to get into this address >> http://www.routerlogin.net
[03:04] <econdudeawesome> Having a problem. I'm trying to upgrade with do-release-upgrade command (in sudo), from 14.04 to 14.10, and the program exits and tells me no new release is available
[03:04] <bilb_ono> and so I need to set the settings on 192.168.1.1?
[03:04] <bilb_ono> or .2?
[03:04] <bilb_ono> I would need to figure that out first right? because I won't have network settings when I am trying to do this
[03:04] <novak_br> no, you need to get into http://www.routerlogin.net
[03:05] <novak_br> so you type: admin
[03:05] <novak_br> and
[03:05] <novak_br> admin
[03:05] <novak_br> http://prntscr.com/6l18kv
[03:06] <novak_br> bilb_ono, don't you have a manual of netgear n600?
[03:06] <novak_br> look that >>> http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf
[03:15] <lasdam1> here's my full /var/log/Xorg.0.conf.old
[03:16] <lasdam1> http://pastebin.com/s9AmEhX3
[03:22] <Amm0n> lasdam1, dir you try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:22] <Amm0n> did*
[03:22] <lasdam1> Amm0n: nope, and nothing seems to happen when I do :S
[03:23] <ANJ7> anyone would like to join ##explain ?
[03:24] <ANJ7> you are free to explain anything there? Mainly computers though
[03:24] <lasdam1> and no output in terminal, just the same prompt on a new line
[03:24] <Amm0n> lasdam1, and sudo X -configure?
[03:25] <RudeViper> Does anyone here understand the output of xrandr as it relates to HDMI? I have trying to figure out how I can get my Sanyo 32 inch tv to work on hdmi (it works on the pc input but only at 1024x768 resolution) without having to reconfigure on every boot or reboot.
[03:26] <lasdam1> root@al392j5tgj292ht8gh2:/home/john# X -configure
[03:26] <lasdam1> Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock (( I tried to condense this down to minimum amount of lines))
[03:27] <lasdam1> also same result as regular user using sudo instead of su
[03:28] <Amm0n> lasdam1, sudo service lightdm stop
[03:28] <Amm0n> then X -configure
[03:29] <lasdam1> stop: Unknown job: lightdm
[03:29] <lasdam1> but I can restart and run in terminal
[03:29] <lasdam1> probably
[03:30] <lasdam1> anything I should keep in mind while reconfigurating X? or do I just choose default values and report back here?
[03:30] <Amm0n> give it a try
[03:30] <Av4t4r> why are you reconfigurating?
[03:31] <lasdam1> Av4t4r: I'm stuck in recovery mode -> failsafe mode. trying to boot normally results in "low-graphics mode" and a frozen system, just Ubuntu loading screen for ever
[03:32] <Av4t4r> what's your video card?
[03:32] <lasdam1> intel hd 3000
[03:32] <Av4t4r> ah
[03:32] <Av4t4r> I see
[03:32] <Av4t4r> Netbook?
[03:32] <lasdam1> uhm yeah, or laptop
[03:33] <_raul> anyone can help me with a ulimit issue ? i've set security/limtis.conf and sysctl.conf ... rebooted, logged in as root, 1024 .. what am i missing ? it's ubuntu 14.04
[03:33] <Av4t4r> if yours belongs to the cedairtrail architecture, then the problem is you have an X version newer than the one the driver can use
[03:33] <Av4t4r> uh, sorry
[03:33] <Av4t4r> Kernel*
[03:33] <Av4t4r> Which leads to...well, that
[03:34] <Av4t4r> anyway, best of luck, gotta go
[03:34] <lasdam1> cedairtrail architecture... no idea what that is and how to find out if I have that. my laptop is an acer aspire 3830t, and it's an ia64 cpu, and the video card is a Sandybridge, that's all I know :P
[03:39] <bilb_ono> novak_br, so I was able to access that login screen and I set the password, and I disconnected my ethernet cable from my computer, and it worked!
[03:39] <bilb_ono> I could connect to the networks I made, except once connected, these have no network access
[03:40] <novak_br> cool, man, bilb_ono
[03:40] <bilb_ono> yet a direct line from the modem does work
[03:40] <bilb_ono> so something in the router itself is giving a bad signal?
[03:43] <bilb_ono> is there anything else to check?
[03:43] <novak_br> I am not going help you
[03:44] <novak_br> unfortunately, bilb_ono
[03:44] <novak_br> I can't help you right now
[03:44] <novak_br> I'm really sorry
[03:44] <novak_br> bilb_ono, you need to do something settings on the router pages
[03:44] <novak_br> read the manual, bilb_ono
[03:46] <thetrav> the /etc/network/interfaces file... it contains a bunch of iface statements... I have an example here that has a line with up <some ip command> and then down <some ip command>  which I assume is some sort of event handling thing...  my question is whether there's a name for it and/or a man page / document I can read to learn how it works in detail
[03:48] <Loshki> thetrav: start with "man ifup".
[03:48] <kian> Yo, running Lubuntu and it display sleeps after 15 minutes or less.
[03:48] <kian> Regardless of xfce4-power-manager settings, I uninstalled light-locker.
[03:48] <thetrav> thanks loshki
[03:48] <kian> I tried running xfce4-power-manager and not running it, regardless still display sleeps 10 or 15 minutes in.
[03:50] <Amm0n> kian, i think older versions of xfce4-power-manager were buggy
[03:51] <kian> Amm0n: ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:51] <kian> and when I stopped running it the problem persisted
[03:52] <_raul> anyone can help me with a ulimit issue ? i've set security/limtis.conf and sysctl.conf ... rebooted, logged in as root, 1024 .. what am i missing ? it's ubuntu 14.04
[03:54] <Latrodectus> kian, I had the same problem, and I fixed it, but that was about 2 years ago. I forget what I did, but their is a fix
[03:56] <Enkidu_ak> Kian, are you still around?
[03:56] <kian> Enkidu_ak: yup
[03:57] <kian> Enkidu_ak: what's up?
[03:57] <Enkidu_ak> The problem is light-locker and possibly the screensaver blanking timer.
[03:57] <kian> Enkidu_ak: Light-locker was uninstalled
[03:57] <kian> Enkidu_ak: performed apt-get purge light-locker
[03:57] <Enkidu_ak> Then try xset s off
[03:58] <Enkidu_ak> Let it sit and see if it turns off.
[03:58] <kian> Enkidu_ak: I believe I tried umm
[03:58] <kian> xset s 0 0
[03:58] <Enkidu_ak> You might also need to supply xset -dpms
[03:59] <kian> Enkidu_ak: okay I'll have to give that a try tomorrow
[03:59] <Enkidu_ak> And of course make sure that you have unticked the box in xfpm that lets it manage power for the display, though you have probably already done that.
[03:59] <kian> Enkidu_ak: I have not done that, please elaborate
[04:00] <kian> Enkidu_ak: also is xset s 0 0 and xset off the same?
[04:00] <kian> I just want xfce4-power-manager to work properly since it's easy to set what I want :\
[04:00] <Enkidu_ak> kian, I believe they are the same, but it doesn't hurt to send xset s off just in case
[04:01] <Enkidu_ak> Run xfce4-power-manager-settings
[04:01] <Enkidu_ak> In the General and Display tabs you should see some check boxes that are worth exploring.
[04:02] <kian> Wow...
[04:02] <Enkidu_ak> Wait, I am in the wrong channel... Er, you are using xfce, yes?
[04:02] <kian> Enkidu_ak: no I'm using lubuntu
[04:03] <kian> LXDE I believe?
[04:03] <kian> but it comes with xfce4-power-manager
[04:03] <kian> I just can't believe I didn't see that checkbox
[04:03] <Enkidu_ak> Oh, happy coincidence, then
[04:03] <Amm0n> kian, which version of xfce4-power-manager you are on?
[04:03] <kian> Amm0n: How can I check?
[04:04] <kian> Enkidu_ak: So should I still set xset s off and xset -dpms?
[04:04] <Latrodectus> lubuntu is great, but it can be buggy as shit when it wants to...
[04:04] <Amm0n> just try to install again via apt
[04:04] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Well, really we should limit the changes to one thing at a time to isolate the problem, but you can.
[04:05] <Amm0n> xset settings don't survive a reboot
[04:05] <kian> Amm0n: "xfce4-power-manager is already the newest version."
[04:05] <Enkidu_ak> They don't, but you can make them a permanent part of your X conf once you identify the issue.
[04:06] <Enkidu_ak> If unticking those boxes works then you shouldn't have to worry about xset
[04:06] <kian> xset -dpms and the checkbox in xfce4-power-manager perform the same task, no?
[04:06] <kian> Enkidu_ak: there was only 1 box I unchecked
[04:06] <kian> the one involving dpms
[04:06] <Enkidu_ak> However, as Amm0n has pointed out, xfpm can be trying.
[04:07] <kian> Enkidu_ak: xfpm?
[04:07] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Alright, now wait and see
[04:07] <Enkidu_ak> kian, That's short for xfce power manager
[04:07] <kian> Enkidu_ak: ahh
[04:07] <Enkidu_ak> LEss typing for the old and lazy, of which I am both
[04:07] <Amm0n> kian, dpkg -s xfce4-power-manager
[04:08] <Amm0n> i think you are on 1.4.3
[04:08] <Amm0n> 1.4.4 is newest from xfce4
[04:08] <kian> Version: 1.2.0-3ubuntu4.1
[04:08] <Enkidu_ak> I'm really quite happy with Vivid
[04:08] <Amm0n> powermanger never worked for me since a few updates
[04:09] <kian> Amm0n: so I'm outdated, no?
[04:09] <Amm0n> so wait for an update and use xset
[04:09] <Amm0n> till it get fixed
[04:09] <Amm0n> yes you are
[04:09] <kian> can't I download and install the latest version?
[04:10] <delinquentme> ok cool so the errors I've been having seem to be related to compiz
[04:10] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Maybe. It depends largely on the dependencies involved.
[04:10] <kian> Enkidu_ak: worth giving a shot?
[04:11] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Just make sure that you read the fine print :D
[04:11] <kian> Enkidu_ak: pardon haha?
[04:11] <Enkidu_ak> delinquentme, Which issues are those?
[04:11] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Notes on dependencies, related issues, etc.
[04:11] <kian> Enkidu_ak: how can I go about doing that?
[04:13] <Enkidu_ak> kian, If you are going to download the latest version as a debian package then you should check the dependencies listed in the repo.
[04:14] <Amm0n> there was a major update on xfce4 i'd wait for that kian
[04:14] <Enkidu_ak> I would also recommend waiting, for the record. Just that  if you are going to attempt to update it manually then do your homework
[04:15] <kian> Enkidu_ak: :\ hmmm
[04:15] <kian> soooo the xset commands are my friend for now?
[04:15] <Enkidu_ak> kian, So it seems :)
[04:15] <Amm0n> xset -dpms & xset s off
[04:16] <kian> Can I set those on boot?
[04:16] <Enkidu_ak> Rather than making changes to your xorg conf, I would simply create a small script and put it in my autostart
[04:16] <kian> hate to ask but care to guide me?
[04:16] <Enkidu_ak> That way you don't have to set it manually each time, but you don't have it carrying over on the next major update
[04:17] <Enkidu_ak> I don't know how LXDE handles startup scripts, but the script itself is fairly straight forward. Give me a second and I'll pastebin an example.
[04:18] <Enkidu_ak> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10674898/
[04:19] <kian> Enkidu_ak: so place this...
[04:20] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Again, I don't know how LXDE handles startup scripts. Check under your system settings, see if there is a session and startup option.
[04:23] <kian> Enkidu_ak: might have something here..
[04:24] <Enkidu_ak> kian, I definitely have something here. Mine is a tin of mints. What's yours?
[04:24] <kian> Enkidu_ak: hehe
[04:24] <kian> there is an application
[04:25] <kian> "autostart" tab
[04:25] <kian> but no idea how to add a script in there
[04:25] <Enkidu_ak> That's the one
[04:25] <Enkidu_ak> I suspect that is is much like the xfce session manager or that it might actually be the xfce session manager.
[04:25] <Enkidu_ak> Is there a button on the bottom-left that is marked "Add"?
[04:26] <kian> top left
[04:26] <Enkidu_ak> Ok, start there
[04:26] <kian> Enkidu_ak: http://a.pomf.se/aqkrzu.png
[04:26] <Enkidu_ak> Name and Decription can be anything that you like. I suggest something descriptive.
[04:27] <kian> Enkidu_ak: manually adding just kinda adds in
[04:27] <kian> no other options
[04:27] <Enkidu_ak> That looks like it wants a path. Try putting the path to your script in the box and then click add
[04:27] <jiacao> hello
[04:28] <kian> if I save your script
[04:28] <kian> should I save it as a .sh file?
[04:30] <Enkidu_ak> kian, I don't know if that is strictly required so long as it has the correct permissions, but it is a good convention to follow.
[04:30] <kian> chmod +x on the file, yes?
[04:30] <Enkidu_ak> kian, a+x
[04:30] <kian> so, chmod a+x script.sh?
[04:30] <Enkidu_ak> Yes
[04:31] <kian> Enkidu_ak: sweet, thank you so much
[04:31] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Not a problem
[04:31] <kian> Going to head to sleep and I'll update you guys tomorrow to see how it goes :)
[04:33] <Enkidu_ak> kian, Good night
[04:47] <Licht21> meh
[04:59] <code42> Hello
[05:07] <ajat> Hi
[05:08] <Gentools> hi
[05:09] <Latrodectus> so why has linux failed as a desktop lo far?
[05:10] <Ullarah> It's failed?
[05:11] <Latrodectus> look at the market share for usage as a desktop
[05:20] <agent_white> moin
[05:21] <Latrodectus> ?
[05:23] <agent_white> Latrodectus: Short for 'good morning' :)
[05:24] <Latrodectus> ah, thx
[05:25] <ajat> HellO
[05:35] <wafflejock> Latrodectus, lack of consumer and professional software that desktop users have traditionally wanted or needed, things being more web driven has made that less of an issue, Steam building on linux and openining up the marketplace to existing linux users is helpful but this is better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <Latrodectus> ok
[05:36] <promobi> hello guys
[05:38] <promobi> anyone wants to chat ?
[05:40] <Sachiru> promobi: I believe that this is ubuntu support? Not Dating-For-Singles?
[05:41] <DJJeff> pressing page down in a terminal is sending the ~ key how do I stop this
[05:42] <DJJeff> is there a quick dirty way to see my keyboard bindings and layout settings
[05:43] <adammm> hey guys, this is a silly question but, if i have ext hard drives in ntfs format, will linux wish to format them in its own format or ?
[05:44] <Ullarah> adammm, no, it should mount them fine.
[05:44] <ai6pg> My fellow Americans - can  we help  fix this: http://bit.ly/1EsNpvr
[05:45] <Latrodectus> djjeff, nano ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[05:45] <adammm> Ullarah only reason why im asking is when i tried to transfer files from my macbook to a ntfs drive it wouldnt do it, havent tried it with ubuntu to ntfs as yet
[05:45] <Ullarah> adammm, mac osx doesn't have write support for ntfs.
[05:46] <adammm> yeh i figured that much out :P i suppose my question should of been does linux have write support for ntfs :P thanks heaps Ullarah
[06:35] <ANJ7> !ping
[06:35] <ANJ7> !pong
[06:36] <ANJ7> good ubottu :D
[06:42] <lasdam> so trying to resolve my "ubuntu in low-graphic mode" -> frozen system, and having tried reinstalling gdm, gnome, ubuntu-desktop, +++, I acted on the advice from someone here I think some hours ago, to do X -configure. the error message from that is "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices".
[06:45] <ruslan_osmanov> hi, how do I fix 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5' error? I tried apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 , then apt-get clean; apt-get update dozens of times. Removing /var/lib/apt/lists, then making dir lists/partial doesn't help either.
[06:45] <ruslan_osmanov> it's xubuntu precise
[06:46] <Trinity> hi guys, i'm using xubuntu and everything is running fine except my internet speed. I did a bit of digging and have come to believe that I have an issue with DNS
[06:46] <Trinity> i tried Chrome and its blazingly faster than mozilla
[06:47] <Trinity> what DNS options should i be changing?
[07:03] <MK-Live> Hey can you guys assist me? I just copied the partitions of a linux installation to a new, larger HD using gparted, but I can't seem to get it to boot. I set the /boot partition to bootable, but I'm unsure what to do next.
[07:03] <MK-Live> I'm using a live CD, the partitions mount just fine, just doesn't seem to want to boot on its own from HD
[07:04] <researcher1> how can I listen port 80 in Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:13] <Loshki> MK-Live: there is a master boot record you also need. Copy the mbr or try the grub recovery http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:13] <Adolfoasir2015> bon dia
[07:17] <MK-Live> I'll try that Loshki, thanks
[07:19] <ANJ7> in Qt ubuntu Plain c++ project how can I clear the console screen?
[07:23] <svetlana> I am trying to switch to systemd as the init system. Why does the package manager say that ubuntu-minimal needs to be removed, then?
[07:26] <htqp> svetlana: just a guess: because it depends on upstart? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/ubuntu-minimal
[07:27] <svetlana> htqp: ubuntu-minimal is described as the essential package required for me to have working network and a working package manager. why does such package depend on upstart?
[07:27] <htqp> svetlana: no idea, but, since it is a metapackage (serves to bring down dependencies and brings nothing real on its own) you may safely remove it
[07:28] <MK-Live> Ah, I am using a newer liveCD... and now read I should have used the same one. Hopefully that didn't break anything
[07:29] <Noah123> Someone here can guide me through the install in PM?
[07:30] <svetlana> Noah123: this is a public channel. if you don't want to give details in public, contact Canonical
[07:31] <Noah123> Who's Canonical?
[07:31] <Noah123> An IRC user?
[07:32] <svetlana> Noah123: Canonical is the company that runs the Ubuntu distro development. http://www.ubuntu.com/support left bottom corner for private support
[07:33] <svetlana> Noah123: there are support services for which you don't need to pay, but they are all public - this irc channel is logged to the web, as is the forum and the mailing list. if you're comfortable with asking the full question here, someone would be glad to answer it, but not in PM
[07:34] <UsEr01_> #join #kw
[07:34] <Noah123> svetlana: this is not about personal information. I want to keep all the information in one place - without other messages so I can see what's next, then PM would be better as I need help, now ...
[07:34] <cfhowlett> !install | Noah123
[07:35] <svetlana> Noah123: just ignore these other messages. if they are worrying, asking at the forum would work (the mailing list also makes you read others' messages)
[07:35] <Noah123> Dual Boot is what I want and I have already read it. I have 80 GB unallocated space I wanna use when I install (swap partition and primary?)
[07:35] <Noah123> I have no idea what to do
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Noah123, ubuntu offers the "install next OS" option = dual boot
[07:36] <svetlana> make backups, run the installer, it'll take care of this for you
[07:36] <Noah123> I'm using Kubuntu, though ...
[07:36] <svetlana> that's okay, kubuntu and ubuntu can dual boot together
[07:37] <cfhowlett> Noah123, same OS, different flavor
[07:37] <svetlana> yes
[07:37] <Noah123> Well, I wanna dual boot Windows & Kubuntu
[07:37] <Noah123> Currently I have Windows
[07:37] <Noah123> Kubuntu on a USB
[07:37] <svetlana> yeah, the kubuntu installer will take care of the partitioning for you. just in case you should back up your valuable information first.
[07:37] <cfhowlett> Noah123, 1.  boot the USB   2. choose "install next to OS" option
[07:37] <svetlana> 0. make backups
[07:37] <svetlana> (sorry)
[07:38] <cfhowlett> :)  svetlana true.  well said!
[07:38] <svetlana> :)
[07:39] <htqp> see? PM does not give you that kind of peer review
[07:39] <shiv> hi
[07:39] <Noah123> Well, it does not have a "install next to OS" option
[07:39] <shiv> everyone
[07:40] <shiv> i am new to SNMP and want to integrate it with my voyage OS device, i want to integrate basic mgmt MIB
[07:40] <shiv> can anyone let me know how to start on it ?
[07:40] <MK-Live> Loshki: worked perfectly, system boots without issue now. Thank you very much.
[07:48] <michel_> good morning
[07:48] <svetlana> hi michel_
[07:49] <Tazmain> Hi all, I am considering getting a GTX 980 or ati R9 290x, but I don't know which has the better driver support for linux, I want to use my dual screens and also play games any input ?
[07:49] <svetlana> which games
[07:50] <michel_> hi @svetlana :)
[07:52] <Tazmain> svetlana, games that are native to linux . But my biggest consider is more the driver and running dual screens. I don't want driver issues
[07:54] <michel_> i think on linux not to play games, but i thin on realy work with it :)
[08:01] <svetlana> Tazmain: ok a minute
[08:03] <spv> hello
[08:07] <dreamcat4> hello there. i'm trying to get a core dump file from inside of a docker container. on ubuntu 14.10 + docker 1.5.0
[08:08] <dreamcat4> the image inside the container is ubuntu-debootstrap:14.04
[08:09] <dreamcat4> i've tried changing my core pattern to /tmp/core.%blah%fmt%args... but whatever i do I can't seem to find any core files afterwards
[08:09] <svetlana> Tazmain: ati stuff are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Fully_Supported, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD (from AMD itself I think), so that should work
[08:09] <svetlana> not with the free one, but with the proprietary one looks like it should work
[08:13] <michel_> which window manager are you use??
[08:13] <dreamcat4> ah! my ulimit was not actually unlimited inside the container. will re-try
[08:13] <dreamcat4> dammn that ulimit cmd saying 'unlimited' when it was not. ulimit ; ulimit -c giving different results
[08:14] <zetheroo> is adding a user to the sudoers group the same as giving them root access?
[08:15] <ikonia> zetheroo: no
[08:15] <ikonia> zetheroo: it is giving the user privileges to run approved commands as root
[08:15] <ikonia> in ubuntu's case all commands
[08:15] <ikonia> that is still different than being the root user
[08:18] <zetheroo> ikonia: so in Ubuntu adding the user to the sudoers file is giving them less power than the root user has?
[08:18] <ikonia> it depends on your definition of power
[08:18] <ikonia> zetheroo: what is the actual problem/issue, as context may help
[08:19] <zetheroo> ok sorry - we would like to reserve root access to only the IT admins, but give users the ability to use sudo to perform some tasks, such as install/remove packages and edit apache configs etc ...
[08:20] <zetheroo> if I add the user to the sudoers file as such "userbob    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" is that more or less making userbob like root?
[08:21] <ikonia> zetheroo: ok, so  you need 2 different groups, you need to leave the sudo group for your admins, and then create a second group with a defined set of commands
[08:21] <ikonia> zetheroo: with respect, if you don't know this level of basics of sudo - you really should consider not being in the sudo group yourself
[08:21] <ikonia> and ask the other it admins who may have more experience than you
[08:21] <zetheroo> I only access using root ..
[08:21] <ikonia> as a bad sudo rule can either leave your box wide open (as your suggestion would have) or leave it unused
[08:22] <ikonia> zetheroo: then who / what are the "it admins" you want to give sudo access to ?
[08:22] <ikonia> zetheroo: the sudo group will give the user the ability to run any command as a privileged (root) user
[08:22] <ikonia> that doesn't strike me as something you want in this case
[08:23] <zetheroo> we are two IT admins - we both access with root - then there are the users who "administer" the VM's/CT's ... they need the ability to install/remove packages and edit configs
[08:23] <ikonia> zetheroo: ok so you are not the only user with root access
[08:23] <ikonia> zetheroo: have you talked to the other guy about how to manage the groups/elevated permisisions
[08:24] <zetheroo> no, sorry that was a misunderstanding ...I was saying that I only use root access ... not that I am the only one using root access
[08:24] <bojan> i want to mount /proc to /opt/ltsp/amd64/proc permanently....Can anybody help me??
[08:24] <zetheroo> ikonia: he is a Windows guy more than anything :)
[08:24] <ikonia> bojan: a bind mount
[08:24] <ikonia> zetheroo: so you need to created a seperate admin group, and maybe even command alias group (depending on how many commands the others will need)
[08:25] <bojan> ikonia:i cant understand can u pls tell me bit clearly
[08:25] <ikonia> then define that in the sudoers file
[08:25] <ikonia> bojan: research "bind mount" or "mount -o bind"
[08:25] <zetheroo> ok, apart from limiting commands is it also possible to limit where they can use those commands?
[08:25] <bojan> If i do mount -o bind will it be mount permanently??
[08:26] <ikonia> zetheroo: what do you mean where ? hosts or directories ?
[08:26] <zetheroo> directories
[08:26] <ikonia> bojan: that will mount it for that session, you need to edit /etc/fstab to make it perm
[08:26] <ikonia> zetheroo: that doesn't really make sense
[08:26] <ikonia> zetheroo: as you can execte anything from anywhere if you know the path
[08:26] <losh> hi, does anyone know if ubuntu provides a netboot which contains the mdraid grub2 modules?
[08:26] <ikonia> zetheroo: can you give me an example of what/why you'd want that
[08:27] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok I see ...
[08:27] <zetheroo> we say I want to let them edit a config in /etc/apache2 but not anywhere else in /
[08:27] <ikonia> zetheroo: ok so thats not running a command, thats a target
[08:27] <ikonia> zetheroo: and yes, you can do that
[08:28] <zetheroo> ok, so specifying a target ...
[08:28] <ikonia> I suspect (and this is only a guess from what you are saying) you'll be better setting up a command alias group listing all the commands including targets you expect these guys to need, makg a group say "cfgman" add those users to that group and bind that group to the command alias group in the sudoers file
[08:29] <swatti> ! sli
[08:29] <swatti> ! nvidia
[08:29] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok thanks - I will read up on this a bit more ... :)
[08:29] <swatti> anyone using Nvidia SLI (ubuntu 14.04)?
[08:29] <jonas___> i did
[08:30] <jonas___> 2x gtx 460
[08:30] <jonas___> had some microstuttering by moments
[08:30] <swatti> how installed?
[08:32] <swatti> i have lenovo y510p 750m sli
[08:33] <bojan> ikonia:pls help me with the entry to be exactly do in fstab??
[08:33] <Ben64> swatti: if you install connected to the internet, it should install the necessary drivers for you
[08:34] <bojan> how to give entry in /etc/fstab for mounting /proc to /opt/ltsp/amd64/proc permanently??
[08:34] <swatti> Ben64 will not work correctly
[08:34] <ikonia> swatti: are you %100 you want to use sli - and you've not just got the model with the dual chip
[08:34] <ikonia> bojan: as I said research bind mount
[08:34] <Ben64> swatti: how so
[08:35] <ikonia> swatti: eg: did you put an extra card in the ultra bay or not
[08:35] <bojan> ikonia:but that bind will work for only this session right??
[08:35] <ikonia> bojan: right, and you can use that command to put into the fstab
[08:35] <swatti> I do not use it but the colleague :D
[08:35] <ikonia> you still need a bind mount
[08:35] <ikonia> swatti: I'll rephrase the question "is there a second physical card in the ultra bay"
[08:36] <FishingArk> Hello. Currently having issues with my mouse not wanting to work. i have to replug it in, sometimes every 5 seconds or so. every mouse i used has had this issue.
[08:36] <ikonia> FishingArk: usb mouse ?
[08:36] <FishingArk> yes
[08:36] <ikonia> FishingArk: sound like your usb ports are resetting
[08:36] <ikonia> FishingArk: rather than the mouse
[08:37] <FishingArk> could be. i have to change the port each time
[08:37] <ObrienDave> FishingArk, i had the same problem, i bought a logitech m510 wireless mouse, no more problem
[08:37] <ikonia> FishingArk: that would make sense as the ports will often lock if they are resetting
[08:37] <yjmxhdq> ?
[08:37] <FishingArk> is there a way to stop that?
[08:38] <ikonia> FishingArk: depends why it's resetting, it be a bad / poorly supported chipset (not often these days for usb) or power managment support could be trying to reset them with bad power management
[08:39] <ikonia> FishingArk: a few things can cause that, although some are quite rare for on usb ports due to them being pretty much standard and well supported now
[08:39] <swatti> 2 system use, windows 7 and ubuntu. use 2 physical card to windows, but boot ubuntu not working 2. card, so remove the 2. card and boot correcly
[08:39] <ikonia> swatti: is there a second physical card in the ultra bay, yes/no
[08:39] <IIT_> how to chk my terminal dispays 256 colors or not ?
[08:40] <swatti> not always want to take out the second card
[08:40] <SkpS> FishingArk: do you have other usb devices that are stable?
[08:40] <ikonia> IIT_: there are example shell scripts on the net
[08:40] <FishingArk> things seemed to be working fine for the longest time. then one day all of a sudden this started happening. after being belittled i was told i need a new mobo but im afraid to drop the money and then it still be an issue
[08:40] <ObrienDave> FishingArk, i had the same problem, i bought a logitech m510 wireless mouse, no more problem
[08:41] <ikonia> FishingArk: if it was working and then stopped it is possible it's a hardware problem, but it's also possible a software update has broken something such (for example) power management
[08:41] <swatti> ikonia yes ultra bay
[08:41] <ikonia> swatti: thank you
[08:41] <Ben64> ObrienDave, FishingArk: yeah i'd try a new mouse before a new motherboard for sure
[08:41] <FishingArk> ive tried a few different mouses so far
[08:41] <FishingArk> same issue
[08:41] <FishingArk> mice*
[08:41] <ObrienDave> wireless or corded?
[08:41] <FishingArk> originally i thought my mouse was going bad so i got a new one
[08:41] <FishingArk> all corded so far
[08:41] <FishingArk> since i mainly game
[08:42] <ObrienDave> SO? try a wireless logitech
[08:42] <ikonia> FishingArk: it maybe useful, if you could remove the file /var/log/syslog, reboot the machine without the mouse in, plug the mouse in, what for it to break, and then post /var/log/syslog into a pastebin please
[08:42] <ikonia> FishingArk: that way we maybe able to see why it's restting the usb  port
[08:42] <geirha> IIT_: num_colors=$(tput colors); if (( num_colors >= 256 )); then printf 'Terminal supports 256 colors\n'; fi
[08:42] <IIT_> ikonia, ok
[08:42] <ikonia> FishingArk: another test would be to use a non-mouse device into the usb port, and see if that remains stable
[08:42] <IIT_> geirha, thanks :) chk right away
[08:43] <FishingArk> if i use a usb flashdrive it will have problems as well
[08:43] <geirha> I know gnome-terminal supports 256 colors, but unfortunately last I checked, it had no way to relay that information
[08:43] <geirha> (i.e. tput colors will output 8)
[08:43] <IIT_> wow it supports 256 colors :D
[08:44] <ikonia> FishingArk: ok, so it sounds like the ports are resetting, I'd suggest you follow the test I suggested first
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming kernel: [   42.304482] usb 3-3: new low-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming kernel: [   42.435292] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0461, idProduct=4d0f
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming kernel: [   42.435293] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming kernel: [   42.435295] usb 3-3: Product: USB Optical Mouse
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming kernel: [   42.435419] usb 3-3: ep 0x81 - rounding interval to 64 microframes, ep desc says 80 microframes
[08:50] <FishingArk> Mar 25 03:48:27 gaming mtp-probe: checking bus 3, device 5: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-3"
[08:50] <ikonia> FishingArk: use a pastebin please, don't flood the channel
[08:51] <swatti> ikonia: may have tipped
[08:51] <swatti> ?
[08:51] <FishingArk> http://pastebin.com/QNX4McAG
[08:52] <FishingArk> hopefully thats the right info
[08:52] <ikonia> swatti: pardon ?
[08:52] <dohzer> anyone here know much about Eclipse?
[08:53] <ikonia> FishingArk: can you show me the output of "uname -a" on your system please
[08:53] <ikonia> FishingArk: that pastebin entry, at that point has the mouse failed or is it still working
[08:53] <swatti> ikonia nv sli install :)
[08:53] <FishingArk> it failed and then i replugged it
[08:53] <ikonia> swatti: what about it ?
[08:53] <ikonia> FishingArk: thats annoying there is nothing in that log to show it disconnect or the port lock
[08:54] <FishingArk> Ikonia Linux gaming 3.16.0-33-generic #44~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 13 10:33:29 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:54] <ikonia> FishingArk: are these usb3 ports ?
[08:54] <ikonia> or usb 2
[08:54] <ObrienDave> would a low-latency kernel help?
[08:55] <FishingArk> Both
[08:55] <FishingArk> x]2 usb 3.0. x4 2.0
[08:55] <swatti> ikonia all the same
[08:58] <swatti> ! nvidia
[08:59] <IIT_> i have installed powerline for vim and tmux but the icons seems to be broken and idea to fix it ?
[09:01] <FishingArk> So the way things are looking I'm out of luck?
[09:04] <zetheroo> would anyone know how to troubleshoot this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10675878/ ?
[09:04] <zetheroo> seems like SSH is barking up the wrong tree :)
[09:05] <zetheroo> how do I change the SSH route? The IP should be .35 not .59
[09:10] <niche_> anyone know how to change the "Activities" to something different in Ubuntu-Gnome?
[09:12] <ikonia> zetheroo: ssh is nothing to do with routing
[09:13] <ikonia> zetheroo: and executing /bin/true will log you out straight away
[09:13] <ikonia> zetheroo: sort your networking out
[09:14] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok thanks - looks like my SSH keys got messed up :P
[09:14] <ikonia> zetheroo: "no route to host" is not ssh keys
[09:15] <FishingArk> thanks for the help all
[09:22] <gaucer_> hi, smbd using xfce?
[09:28] <IIT_> why i have to source .bashrc each time on startup ? to load 256 terminal color support ?
[09:29] <shiv> i am new to SNMP and want to integrate it with my voyage OS device, i want to integrate basic mgmt MIB
[09:29] <shiv> can anyone let me know how to start on it ?
[09:34] <Stifler> shiv, vague but I guess your looking to manage devices using SNMP. Start with Nagios perhaps (there are other SNMP managers out there)
[09:36] <zetheroo>  ikonia: thanks - was like you said - bad entry in the hosts file
[09:41] <svenx> it seems i have to install 'language-pack-en-base' to obtain basic en_US locale support, contrary to Debian's behaviour. is that correct?
[09:42] <svenx> i don't need translations or anything, just the locale. «-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)»
[09:47] <herol3oy> how can i rename a file while it appears like ?????? in terminal? (can i define for example i want to rename this file with X size to Y name?)
[09:49] <svenx> herol3oy: yeah, you could always work around it with something like «find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -size 123c -exec mv "{}" newname \;»
[09:49] <svenx> herol3oy: you would want to verify that the find command only matches that one file, though: «find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -size 123c -ls»
[09:50] <crane_> hi folks
[09:50] <crane_> whats the safe way to add user to sudoers
[09:50] <crane_> so it can act as admin with sudo
[09:55] <herol3oy> svenx: hey thanks. can i say just show me that file which is bigger than 2 GB? (there is only one file with size of 2 GB????)
[09:56] <svenx> herol3oy: yeah, with -size +2G
[09:57] <herol3oy> svenx: so it's gonna be like : find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -size +2G
[09:58] <crypt1d> crane_, you should add the user to a group, eg "admins" and then match that group to a sudo rule
[09:58] <crypt1d> but you should avoid directly adding that user to a sudoers profile.
[09:58] <svenx> herol3oy: yeah. try it out to see if it lists anything
[10:00] <crane_> cryptd how come?
[10:01] <crane_> now I cant even ssh as this user
[10:01] <swatti> oh yes sli work:) sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-settings nvidia-prime and set sudo nvidia-xconfig -sli=auto -multigpu=auto
[10:02] <crypt1d> the idea is that if a user gets deleted, the sudo rule stays...so if, by any chance, another use with the same name gets created it will inherit its sudo rights even though you may not have intended this...So you may have a security issue
[10:02] <crypt1d> on the other hand, if you use some custom group, once the user gets deleted it will not have the same group membership once its recreated
[10:02] <EriC^^> that's pretty neat
[10:03] <rt2500usb> Hi is there a solution for the imidiatly disconect "wlan0 deautenticate from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx   from locak choice reason 3" i  serch a lot but cant find a fix. is this problem solved in 14.04.2?
[10:04] <rt2500usb> my card iuses rt2500usb
[10:06] <nextbox> what's the difference between keepass and keepassX ?
[10:08] <rt2500usb> since i abandon my12.04 lts  my wiki keeps geting disconected
[10:08] <IceBot3000> nextbox: KeepassX is the cross-platform port, as Keepass was only for Windows
[10:08] <nextbox> OH I see =)
[10:08] <nextbox> so it's the same in functionality
[10:09] <IceBot3000> nextbox: But KeepassX is only compatible with the v1 format of Keepass files, so if you generated a load of passwords in the latest Windows version of Keepass, KeepassX couldn't read them
[10:10] <abdel> Hello Please I have an issue, I have the latest skype on ubuntu 14.04.....I cannot send offline video messages, any idea why it is so?
[10:10] <delinquentme> so I updated i believe to be a few graphcs compiz related things and now once I login ... everything is black ... and I"ve gotten an error with something mentioning unity and compiz ... which makes sense as its the display and pretty things which aren't working when i boot up
[10:12] <delinquentme> so how do I repair compiz and how can I see a copy / pasteable error that are shown in the ubuntu failure popups
[10:12] <abdel> Hello Please I have an issue, I have the latest skype on ubuntu 14.04.....I cannot send offline video messages, any idea why it is so?
[10:17] <IceBot3000> abdel: Sorry, Skype is closed-source
[10:17] <abdel> how do you mean closed source
[10:17] <Stifler> is there a #skype ? Please try their help desk abdel, this is #ubuntu
[10:18] <abdel> i came here because its working in other OS except ubuntu , its perculiar to ubuntu
[10:19] <abdel> everything is working except the offline video message
[10:19] <Stifler> abdel, Closed source means we cannot 'see how it works'. Ask the manufacturer.
[10:21] <niche_> hello
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> niche_: welcome
[10:23] <mojes> hi
[10:27] <umbra_purus> hey
[10:27] <umbra_purus> How can I list the users in my operative system?
[10:28] <umbra_purus> in terminal?
[10:28] <umbra_purus> Hello?
[10:28] <Stifler> list active users or all users?
[10:28] <k1l> umbra_purus: less /etc/group
[10:30] <mojes> hi is there a way to configure the hot conners to get new workspace
[10:31] <umbra_purus> no k1l. that command only doesn't show the users only. Can i found a way to grep it?
[10:31] <Stifler> umbra_purus, to show who is logged in the command is 'who'
[10:34] <umbra_purus> yes i know but i wanted to list the users
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> umbra_purus: users is terminal?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> in
[10:34] <Stifler> umbra_purus, does 'cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd' do what you want?
[10:35] <mojes> hi please help with my question anyone?
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> mojes: you can try with ccsm and configure
[10:36] <Stifler> umbra_purus, 'all users' or all 'users logged in' or 'all users logged in at a terminal only'?
[10:36] <IIT_> why is that i have to each time do source .bashrc on boot ?
[10:36] <IIT_> also .profile
[10:36] <k1l> umbra_purus: i think you mean "human users only" but linux doesnt make a difference between human users and users just for programs (like www-data for webserver)
[10:37] <delinquentme> Default compiz install location on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: try the whereis command from terminal
[10:37] <umbra_purus> yes that is it
[10:37] <umbra_purus> k1l
[10:37] <umbra_purus> so how can i grep it
[10:39] <k1l> umbra_purus: what yes? Stifler gave a command that lists all users
[10:39] <Stifler> you want -f1,3 then perhaps
[10:39] <mojes> lotuspsychje: sory am new to linux but i read somewhere that i go to menu  then preferences then hot conners but unfortunately i don hav system in my menu can you help?
[10:40] <FishingArk> Hello, earlier I was in here with disconnecting issues. After it happened a few more times I just let it sit and the mouse would start working again after 10 + seconds or so. Does that change what the issue might be?
[10:40] <umbra_purus> I want to list all human users so i can know what users are in my linux.
[10:40] <rick__> umbra_purus, do you mean "last" command
[10:40] <Stifler> cut -d: -f1,3 /etc/passwd | egrep ':[0-9]{4}$'
[10:41] <k1l> umbra_purus: there is no difference to ubuntu between "only human" and system user.
[10:41] <Stifler> humans are over 1000
[10:41] <EriC^^> umbra_purus, use grep 10[0-9][0-9] /etc/passwd , if you have less than 100 users
[10:41] <Stifler> :-)
[10:42] <umbra_purus> oh yeah that's it eric thanks
[10:42] <EriC^^> or grep 10[0-9][0-9] /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1
[10:42] <EriC^^> if you need a ist
[10:42] <EriC^^> *list
[10:44] <FishingArk> Hello, earlier I was in here with mouse disconnecting issues. After it happened a few more times I just let it sit and the mouse would start working again after 10 + seconds or so. Does that change what the issue might be?
[10:46] <umbra_purus> oh yeah that's it eric thanks
[10:46] <tonph> hi i have an applet to upload large files, now when i start file transfer I can see the network sinks. I am using ubutnu 14.04, and I want to know why the network sinks - is there any tool to check so.
[10:46] <EriC^^> umbra_purus, no problem :)
[10:46] <mojes> hi am trying to access the hot conners  under preferences in but it doesnt exist. is my system missing something.?
[10:47] <k1l> mojes: use unity-tweak-tool
[10:48] <k1l> mojes: if that is not enough see ccsm, buut be aware ccsm can make your desktop unusable with need to reset.
[10:50] <FishingArk> Hello, earlier I was in here with mouse disconnecting issues. After it happened a few more times I just let it sit and the mouse would start working again after 10 + seconds or so. I have tried multiple different mice and they work fine on other computers
[10:50] <mojes> KIl: do i nid to install the unity-tweak -tool? sorry am new to linux
[10:53] <FishingArk> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/unity-tweak-tool/
[10:53] <FishingArk> click on the "available on the software centre" button
[10:54] <crane_> folks where I can see nice howto about adding user to sudoers?
[10:54] <IceBot3000> crane_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[10:55] <FishingArk> Any ideas why my mouse pointer keeps freezing only in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <luc4> Hello! Is there any way to be able to use openvt from regular user?
[10:56] <luc4> From X I mean.
[10:57] <crane_> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
[10:58] <crane_> so I simply have to add user to group called sudo?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> !users | crane_
[10:58] <crane_> !sudo
[11:01] <snadge> so i cant figure out why i cant connect to my vpn.. but if i change to another user.. i can
[11:02] <FishingArk> Any ideas why my mouse pointer keeps freezing only in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <leeyaa> hello
[11:02] <hdon> hi all :) anyone know of a FULL PC emulator i can use to boot my old ubuntu 12.04 system? its hdd is still in my PC, and right now i have it mounted (but i would umount obviously when giving it over to emulator so the hosted kernel in the emulator can mount the filesystem)
[11:02] <leeyaa> for some reason it seems mysql perl library does not match mysql library on one of my servers install_driver(mysql) failed: Perl API version v5.14.0 of DBD::mysql does not match v5.18.0 at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207
[11:02] <leeyaa> any idea how to fix it ?
[11:02] <leeyaa> i tried reinstalling libdbd-mysql-perl
[11:02] <hdon> chroot has proven insufficient. i spent a *lot* of time in this direction, but there are kernel compatibility issues with the program i want to run.
[11:02] <leeyaa> im on 14.04 lts
[11:02] <snadge> hdon, virtualbox will probably do the trick
[11:04] <bojan> Hi can anybody help me on configuring NFS..i have done all the configuration and i can mount the shared partition onthe same computer but if i do that on a computer connected on my network it is saying error as "mount.nfs:access denied by server while mounting 192.168.2.1:/mnt"
[11:08] <FishingArk> Any ideas why my mouse pointer keeps freezing only in Ubuntu?
[11:08] <peter100> how do i run a chat app as root?
[11:09] <peter100> such as pdgin?
[11:09] <peter100> pidgin*
[11:09] <k1l> peter100: you dont want to do that
[11:09] <peter100> why?
[11:09] <bojan> Hi can anybody help me on configuring NFS..i have done all the configuration and i can mount the shared partition onthe same computer but if i do that on a computer connected on my network it is saying error as "mount.nfs:access denied by server while mounting 192.168.2.1:/mnt"
[11:09] <k1l> other question: why would you want to do that?
[11:09] <peter100> oh i am sorry, i mean as non root k1l
[11:10] <peter100> typing error
[11:10] <k1l> peter100: you are logged in as root in irc,too. dont do that. that opens security issues to possible attackers
[11:10] <k1l> peter100: in general: dont log into your desktop as root.
[11:10] <peter100> that;s why i am asking how do i run an app as non root?
[11:11] <peter100> any commands?
[11:11] <crane_> ty
[11:11] <peter100> suppose i logged in as root , but want to run an app as non root
[11:11] <k1l> peter100: log out of root desktop and run the desktop as a regular user
[11:11] <peter100> how do i do that
[11:11] <peter100> ?
[11:11] <ikonia> you shouldn't be logged in as root
[11:11] <crane_> lotuspsychje:  stuff works
[11:11] <crane_> :D
[11:11] <ikonia> it's that simple
[11:11] <peter100> but still there must be some way
[11:12] <peter100> u know what i mean
[11:12] <ikonia> I do
[11:12] <ikonia> and the correct answer is to do it properly
[11:12] <ikonia> which is to not login as root
[11:12] <k1l> peter100: running a desktop as root on ubuntu is a security issue, bad design and will lead to more issues with ther programs and file permissions
[11:12] <peter100> like some command?
[11:12] <ikonia> the correct command is "logout" then you can login as a non-privileged user
[11:12] <peter100> i see k1l
[11:12] <k1l> peter100: you ask "how can i shoot my own head" and we just tell you not to do that.
[11:12] <ikonia> you are supposed to elevate up, not elevate down
[11:12] <crypt1d> bojan, check to see if u can ping the NFS server
[11:13] <peter100> i see
[11:13] <bojan> cryptld:Yes i can
[11:13] <Enkidu_ak> build-essentials doesn't include Boehms GC by default?
[11:13] <DJJeff> backtrack and kali linux run as root
[11:13] <dsc_> peter100: you need to ascend to a higher plane and become a space robot, not the other way around
[11:13] <DJJeff> but they are pen testing distros
[11:13] <k1l> DJJeff: and that is bad design. they are not meant to be regular usage desktops
[11:13] <DJJeff> no
[11:14] <peter100> he is right a lot of distros run as root
[11:14] <ikonia> no they don't
[11:14] <peter100> take kali and puppy linux for example
[11:15] <k1l> peter100: this is #ubuntu and if you run ubuntu that is just plain false usage
[11:15] <peter100> puppy linux runs completely as root
[11:15] <peter100> i see
[11:15] <ikonia> peter100: puppy is a flawed design and kalli is running as root for a specific security test data
[11:15] <Enkidu_ak> A lot of distros? I've only ever heard of one, Linspire.
[11:15] <ikonia> you're using ubuntu
[11:15] <brollypop> damn i read that as poppy lux
[11:15] <peter100> linspire?
[11:16] <peter100> i have heard backtrack also runs as root
[11:16] <peter100> don;t know
[11:16] <Enkidu_ak> peter100, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire
[11:16] <Enkidu_ak> peter100, You didn't miss much
[11:16] <k1l> but we can shove the "what other distros do" talk into ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic . this is #ubuntu and we stated already what the ubuntu way is on that
[11:16] <ikonia> peter100: back track is dead
[11:16] <k1l> peter100: if you run kali or backtrack please see their support
[11:18] <FishingArk> Any ideas why my mouse pointer keeps freezing only in Ubuntu?
[11:18] <bojan> crypt1d:Yes i can ping and also i can see the shared point in the client computer with this command "showmount -e 192.168.2.1"
[11:18] <peter100> k1l no idon;t use those distros
[11:18] <k1l> FishingArk: see the logs whats going on. can you reproduce it?
[11:19] <peter100> also what does command "DMESG" do?
[11:19] <k1l> peter100: so log out of the root desktop and come back to the ubuntu way which means loggin in as a user
[11:19] <peter100> k1l will do
[11:19] <IceBot3000> I agree with peter100, it's fine to run as root if you're competent. Ubuntu mandates sudo because it's for beginners
[11:19] <FishingArk> kil: My syslog?
[11:20] <k1l> IceBot3000: no
[11:20] <peter100> k1l anyways thanks for the info buddy
[11:20] <peter100> i don;t run as root always
[11:20] <jjkenya> kil thanks for helping others thumps up
[11:20] <peter100> running as root is not safe
[11:20] <Enkidu_ak> IceBot3000, That's like running around with a loaded and cocked gun because you 'know' what you are doing.
[11:20] <k1l> FishingArk: yes, or the .xsession-errors in your /home
[11:20] <Enkidu_ak> IceBot3000, Why take the risk?
[11:21] <IceBot3000> Enkidu_ak: Why take stabilisers off your bicycle?
[11:21] <k1l> IceBot3000: if you look into the xserver security issues you dont want the desktop to be run as root.
[11:21] <Enkidu_ak> IceBot3000, That is a false analogy, but we should move the discussion to offtopic.
[11:21] <FishingArk> kil: past 20 minutes http://pastebin.com/ekCTz6Dm
[11:21] <segap_> Hey guys , anyone happen to know how to disable a selected wireless receiver for ubuntu ( the one that comes with the motherboard has issues with ubuntu so i just use an external ) but they both connect to net on startup
[11:21] <k1l> IceBot3000: i know some elite linux users dont want to hear that, but that has nothing to do with "i know linux" or not.
[11:22] <peter100>  k1l though i must say u know a lot about linux, keep it up
[11:22] <gr33n7007h> segap_: just remove the driver
[11:24] <segap_> gr33n7007h,  yeah i suppose  will just redownload if they ever update it
[11:24] <k1l> FishingArk: did you reconnect the usb cable?
[11:25] <gr33n7007h> segap_: I don't mean totally remove :)
[11:25] <peter100>  k1l how come u know so much about linux , are u an IT expert?
[11:25] <peter100> just asking buddy
[11:25] <bojan> hi
[11:26] <FishingArk> yeah i have reconnected. usually it freezes up for 10 seconds or so and then works again
[11:26] <FishingArk> no matter what usb port
[11:27] <FishingArk> no matter what usb port *** my bad
[11:28] <k1l> FishingArk: is that a cable mouse?
[11:29] <FishingArk> kil: yes
[11:29] <FishingArk> kil: I have tried multiple mouses and I get the same issue
[11:29] <FishingArk> *mice
[11:29] <k1l> what ubuntu is it? what gives you "uname -a"?
[11:29] <gr33n7007h> segap_: add the kernel module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist if you want to disable
[11:30] <IIT> in my tmux powerline i am getting question marks, how can i correct it ?
[11:30] <luc4> Hello! Can I somehow setup my ubuntu to run an application at boot in a specific virtual terminal?
[11:31] <FishingArk> kil: 3.16.0-33-generic #44~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 13 10:33:29 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:32] <segap_> gr33n7007h, thank you !
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> luc4: you can setup a terminal session from your startup items, with the command of the program you want
[11:35] <studentz> Hi there: After  install nvidia drive and rebot I get Blank screen. I got to recovery mode, but the file system is only read, I use fsck and it is taken forever. Please help me. Thanks
[11:35] <k1l> FishingArk: hmm, sorry dont know. dont find any similar issues with that mouse. so maybe you want to file a bug
[11:35] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I'll try that, thanks.
[11:37] <FishingArk> kil: It's not just this mouse. It's any mouse I've tried.
[11:43] <FishingArk> thanks for the help
[11:46] <studentz>  Hi there: After  install nvidia drive and rebot I get Blank screen. I got to recovery mode, but the file system is only read, I use fsck and it is taken forever. Please help me. Thanks
[11:54] <studentz> Hi there after install nvidia driver  and reboot my laptop  showed a blank screen. I use recovery mode to get access to root terminal. However, the file system  is only in read mode. I use remount option to mount the file system and it is taking forever. Please any help is more than welcome. Thanks
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> studentz: try 'fix broken packages' from recoverymode
[11:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:56] <unseensoul> Hi
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[11:57] <unseensoul> I can't get java applets embedded in a page to work. It just shows me a gray screen. However, it does work if the applet is opened in a different window. Any ideas?
[11:59] <grogoreo> hi
[12:01] <Precise-user> hello
[12:01] <studentz> lotuspsychje: fix broken packages, also try to mount the file system. And get stuck in /dev/sda2 partition.
[12:03] <grogoreo> I apt upgraded last night and starting now lightdm can't run a dm/wm having tried Unity and i3. xsession-errors is saying xhost is unable to open :0. Strange that lightdm can run, which must be :0 but not a wm. Any ideas how to get round this?
[12:05] <saoungoumi> .
[12:07] <Precise-user> am i running as root?
[12:07] <Precise-user> ?
[12:07] <k1l> Precise-user: aka peter100 i think we sorted that already
[12:08] <lanix> 0 0
[12:08] <k1l> Precise-user: ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <peter100> ok
[12:11] <michel_> ..
[12:12] <michel_> which subject?
[12:19] <studentz> Hi there after install nvidia driver  and reboot my laptop  showed a blank screen. I use recovery mode to get access to root terminal. However, the file system  is only in read mode. I use remount option to mount the file system and it is taking forever. Please any help is more than welcome. Thanks
[12:20] <fabio> Hi guys, for some reason, chrome was stopped to open on my ubuntu. i've removed it and installed again but the problem sill presists
[12:22] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, Try opening it from term, see what errors are reported.
[12:24] <swatti> studentz nvidia version?
[12:24] <Chotaz> God afternoob folks, how do I make ubuntu not automount specifically my phone when I plug it in?
[12:24] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, Hi, i've did it and here's the output [1:1:0325/122338:FATAL:sandbox_bpf.cc(74)] Check failed: -1 == rv (-1 vs. 354)
[12:26] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, Are you using Chrome or Chromium?
[12:31] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, i have both installed and both dont work
[12:31] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, Do they both return the same error?
[12:31] <dfcnvt> What interface is it called when you click 'win' button? "Side Panel"? or "Main Panel" or what?
[12:32] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, let me see
[12:36] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, Are you using 32 or 64 arch?
[12:40] <Alladim> bom dia  Pessoal  sou iniciante aqui  e gostaria de  ajudar e  também  aprender  com todos  vlw
[12:40] <chotaz> How do I prevent ubuntu from automounting my cellphone and poping up Caja when it does so?
[12:41] <pbx> !pt| Alladim
[12:42] <Guest461> .
[12:42] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, 32
[12:42] <Guest461> why ubuntu crashes so much?
[12:43] <chotaz> Guest461: 0 crashes here, you mustve done smth.
[12:43] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, What changes did you make to your system just before chrome stopped working?
[12:43] <fabio> Guest461, because ubuntu is in beta
[12:43] <fabio> :D
[12:43] <Guest461> ubuntu is junk
[12:43] <fabio> why u use it then?
[12:44] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, well, i think i've made some kind of update
[12:44] <Guest461> because i don;t any other linux distros
[12:44] <Guest461> i fnd ubnutu easy to install
[12:44] <khamitov> exit
[12:45] <fabio> Enkidu_ak, when i see update notifications on desktop i usually install them
[12:45] <Guest461> my ubuntu always crashes after each update
[12:45] <Guest461> don;t know
[12:45] <Guest461> yesterday my screen froze and it give away some kernal panic
[12:46] <sai_>  /leave #ubuntu
[12:47] <khamitov> 188.226.161.127
[12:47] <Guest461> garbage ubuntu
[12:47] <rxp> Guest461: it's probably a piece of hardware it doesn't like. have any unusual hardware?
[12:47] <Enkidu_ak> fabio, There will e a log in /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:47] <khamitov> sai_, thanks
[12:47] <Guest461> rxp no, its just normal hardware
[12:48] <maysara> Hello, I installed kernel 3.16 but kernel 3.13 is still installed. "apt-get autoremove" didn't remove it. How can I remove it?
[12:48] <Guest461> intel dual core cpu, 4 gb ram and a 500 hdd
[12:48] <Guest461> ubuntu is distro i never understand and highly unreliable
[12:48] <rxp> Guest461: what kind of network adapter?
[12:48] <Guest461> i use a 3g modem
[12:48] <Guest461> dongle
[12:49] <Guest461> u never know when ubuntu will crash
[12:49] <rxp> my xubuntu has been rather picky about network adapters. if i use tp-link, everything runs fine. but i have an asus that will not connect and occasionally lock up the system.
[12:50] <Guest461> i see
[12:50] <Guest461> rxp is there any substitute for ubuntu? lke any other easier linux distro which doens;t crashes all the time?
[12:50] <gaucer> can smbd help me with xfce4-appearance-settings?
[12:51] <delinquentme> anyone know how I can view the logs of what ubuntu sends in its error report ?
[12:51] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, What sort of help do you need with it?
[12:51] <rxp> xubuntu and lubuntu have lighter desktop environments. as far as i know, same backend, though. but i use them on my older machines with much success. i really havent had many problems with regular ubuntu.
[12:52] <Guest461> i have heard a lot about linux mint
[12:52] <Guest461> is it better than ubuntu?
[12:52] <khamitov> I've just run irssi for the first time. Could you help me with command how to open one more chat?
[12:52] <studentz> Hi there after install nvidia driver  and reboot my laptop  showed a blank screen. I use recovery mode to get access to root terminal. However, the file system  is only in read mode. I use remount option to mount the file system and it is taking forever. Please any help is more than welcome. Thanks
[12:53] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak, i'm using Xubuntu 14.04. Yesterday i (don't know why) installed Gnome3. After i removed it. Now i cant' open xfce theme settings. It crashes and close after a few seconds
[12:54] <Guest461> ubuntu is pathetic
[12:55] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak: I removed all (i think so) Gnome3 packages, I reinstalled xfce4-settings but without result
[12:55] <def1ant> I am trying to install Ubuntu, the installation will complete without any issues, but even the grub won't boot
[12:55] <def1ant> I have been trying this since last night
[12:55] <def1ant> Can somebody please ehlp me?
[12:56] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, I suspect that when you removed it you took a dependency with it. You re-installed xubuntu-core?
[12:56] <Enkidu_ak> Er, desktop. Xubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <rxp> def1ant: did you install as mbr or gpt?
[12:57] <rxp> def1ant: and how is your BIOS/UEFI setup for booting?
[12:57] <def1ant> rxp how do I know that?
[12:57] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak, yes, i added repo of xfce4 and reinstalled xubuntu-desktop. But i'm not sure that it was complete
[12:57] <def1ant> It is a new mother board and I havent changed anything in the bios
[12:58] <def1ant> Since last monday it was working, I tried to install fedora, and it messed up everything
[12:58] <zipper> Hey guys
[12:59] <flexpaint> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu im following this guide to install a lamp stack but i get " libapache2-mod-auth-mysql : Depends: apache2.2-common (>= 2.2.3-3) but it is not going to be installed" when installing mysql
[12:59] <flexpaint> none of the google results for that helped though...
[12:59] <zipper> Is this a good place to promote my mixtape?
[12:59] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, Added a repo? It should have been available from Trusty/universe
[12:59] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, Which repo did you add?
[12:59] <zipper> You can get it on soundcloud as "the fire" by "zipper"
[13:00] <DJones> zipper: No, this channel is Ubuntu support only
[13:00] <def1ant> rxp, So what do I do now?
[13:00] <zipper> DJones: Damn dude all I'm doing is trying to get bread.
[13:00] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak, http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12/ubuntu
[13:01] <flexpaint> do i need "libapache2-mod-auth-mysql" to run lamp?
[13:01] <flexpaint> or is it extra?
[13:01] <zipper> flexpaint: No, what you need my friend is to listen to my mixtape.
[13:02] <flexpaint> sounds important... https://packages.debian.org/sid/httpd/libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[13:02] <ubuntu-mate> hi guys
[13:02] <flexpaint> D:
[13:02] <Enkidu_ak> Did you add a separate repo for gnome as well?
[13:03] <ubuntu-mate> im having problems installing My Ubuntu Mate to my External Drive ..
 yes, and after removing Gnome removed and repos
[13:03] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, Did you intend to install xubuntu-dev or were you just trying to install the standard xubuntu-desktop?
[13:04] <ubuntu-mate> just the standard xubuntu -desktop
[13:05] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, I would purge whatever xubuntu packages that you installed after adding that repo and then drop that repo. Trusty/universe should have a xubuntu-core and xubuntu-desktop package that will work for you. Unfortunately I don't know what all was changed by the gnome installation, so it is possible that something else will interfere.
 i just want  to reinstall settings manager..
[13:07] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, The package is xfce4-settings. You can reinstall it using apt.
[13:08] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak, i did it but without any result. Settings opens but theme settings no
[13:11] <gaucer> Enkidu_ak, omg...i removed xfce4-settings & installed it again. Theme settings works fine. Thank's for help!
[13:12] <Enkidu_ak> gaucer, Odd that it didn't work the first time. I hope that it sticks :)
[13:31] <clmclm> someone familiar with iftop? what do all the foreign ip adresses mean? does my laptop forward wlan packages?
[13:31] <end2end> does Ubuntu provide membership?
[13:31] <DJones> !member | end2end
[13:31] <end2end> wow
[13:31] <end2end> thanks
[13:33] <EricAir> vvvv
[13:34] <wvvrw>  i have some files designated to open with supervisord , but then i changed those files , killed supervisord and restarted it but it loads the older version of the files . if i start them manually with & it works properly. any idea?
[13:34] <sapphire> I forgot my password and I can not login as that user!
[13:34] <tar-xvf> #DataHoarder
[13:37] <k1l> !password | sapphire
[13:37] <sapphire> ok! I'll try.
[13:40] <kinetic_7> hi - have a strange problem with my cursors. I installed wine and then removed it, but the icons for my cursors have changed
[13:40] <kinetic_7> like the icon for hovering over a hyperlink in now different
[13:40] <kinetic_7> I have installed unity-tweak-tool and set everything back to default, but the mouse curors don't change
[13:41] <xpl0iter> Can someone please help me  to install ubuntu. For now even the grub won't simply boot. Somene pointed out to me that it has something to do with uefi
[13:42] <sapphire> kinetic_7 the change you set may be used after a reboot!
[13:43] <kinetic_7> sapphire: I tried full reboot, but it doesn't change
[13:43] <EriC^^> xpl0iter, try to press esc and get a boot options menu
[13:43] <kinetic_7> its like different icons are being used for the cursors now, and I can't restore the defaults
[13:46] <lucido> my comp freezes on waking from suspend since I installed an amd card (fglrx), is there a fix for this?
[13:49] <brycetd19m> Getting really annoyed please tell me there is a way to install the restricted source binarys with the install cd.
[13:49] <brycetd19m> Don't have lan and don't have cpu binarys still and being on the restricted list the Os doesn't install it
[13:52] <brycetd19m> Anyone know? Had the problem for months and the ubuntu team seems hell bent on keeping it in the restricted sources. There for keeping people in a dark hole with an Os that won't boot for days.
[13:53] <theteju> Hey guys,,
[13:54] <k1l> brycetd19m: what do you want to install?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !password | sapphire
[13:54] <theteju> How should I partition to install ubuntu on this hard drive? I am looking for advise to partition my hard drive...http://imagebin.ca/v/1w2nSEGIn8SF
[13:55] <brycetd19m> The lan and core i5 4460 binarys are in the restricted sources meaning that ubuntu is limited to 400mhz
[13:55] <k1l> brycetd19m: what? the intel cpus work ootb. no need to install stuff from other sources. intel drivers are in the kernel
[13:56] <brycetd19m> Mine doesn't I get an Os that takes 2 days to show the log in prompt and has the cpu showing as 400mhz.
[13:56] <genii> brycetd19m: The install images do not contain anything from the restricted repositories. They are called restricted because the software cannot be freely distributed due to the licenses of the software in it.
[13:56] <k1l> brycetd19m: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[13:57] <brycetd19m> I wouldn't know the mouse has moved 1 frame in 4 hours. I'm running ubuntu 14.04
[13:58] <k1l> what pc/laptop is it?
[13:59] <genii> brycetd19m: If you have access to another Ubuntu system with internet there are ways to download the packages there and then you transfer the files to the machine which require it
[13:59] <theteju> Anyone...:(
[14:00] <brycetd19m> It's a core i5 i5 4460 8gb duel channel ddr3 1600 mobo is an asrock dgm-rd2 gpu is an and us gtx750 2gb. Running 1 device on USB 1 ssd 1 wdv
[14:00] <genii> !offline
[14:01] <brycetd19m> Been there done that using a vm. Ubuntu takes 4 hours to display the log on screen it takes over an hour to type 3 letters
[14:01] <brycetd19m> It's not possible to use the system to install packages.
[14:02] <Craigwell> very impressive room. Did not realize it was here. First visit to freenode
[14:03] <theteju> Can someone please help me how to partition for dual boot on laptop.. the partition table looks like this http://imagebin.ca/v/1w2nSEGIn8SF
[14:06] <brycetd19m> Yep this is great coding ubuntu. Left the system all night its had a rock on the keyboard too typed 16 letters in 11 hours up time.
[14:06] <teward> brycetd19m: if you are only going to complain you can take it elsewhere
[14:06] <teward> (this isn't a complaints-handling channel)
[14:07] <Craigwell> theteju: Easy way might be to let ubuntu create new partition at sda6, and use the slider to make sda4 smaller to give you the space you want. That's for basic install.
[14:07] <Craigwell> theteju: more complicated if you need / and /home partitions, but google will cover that for you. Basically you want to make the sda4 partition smaller.
[14:08] <Craigwell> lol @ teward
[14:08] <brycetd19m> Teward how about integrating cpu and lan support into the install. Don't just stick users with a problem for 4 releases +
[14:08] <CptRageToaster> teward: Arguably, they ares just asking for support in a really silly way...
[14:08] <CptRageToaster> they are*
[14:08] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: can you make it to GRUB in one piece?
[14:09] <teward> CptRageToaster: but their approach is one of whining - which never helps
[14:09] <teward> this is an ultimately pointless discussion but still
[14:09] <theteju> Craigwell : I am confused about,, how to find out if these are all primary partitions or logical?
[14:09]  * teward goes off to do actual productive work today
[14:09] <brycetd19m> If you mean I can get to grub after a 4 hour wait sure I can
[14:09] <Craigwell> teward: c'mon now, you must have whined at least once about ubuntu issues lol
[14:09] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: That isn't Ubuntu's fault then
[14:09] <CptRageToaster> Grub loads as a second stage bootloader
[14:09] <CptRageToaster> it's incharge of booting Ubuntu
[14:09] <CptRageToaster> I was going to recommend some things to try, when you boot Ubuntu
[14:10] <CptRageToaster> but considering your PC can't load grub properly
[14:10] <CptRageToaster> then your hardware is suspect
[14:10] <teward> Craigwell: this is an offtopic discussion - either the offtopic channel or PM :P
[14:10] <Craigwell> theteju: My guess is only sda4 would be primary, but I'm not certain. Can you find partition info anywhere by right clicking, etc?
[14:11] <CptRageToaster> I've partitioned things in command line before ._.
[14:11] <Craigwell> easy teward. A little levity never hurts.
[14:12] <theteju> Craigwell : Nope It doesn't tell me.. Okay last question,, when it comes to install Grub,, it should go to /dev/sda ,, am I correct?
[14:12] <theteju> Craigwell : I mean , boot loader... install
[14:12] <Craigwell> brycetd19m: Can you boot into a thumb drive? I'd boot ubuntu off a thumdrive and then check that hard drive - or do a memcheck either via bios or ubuntu boot
[14:13] <Craigwell> theteju: correct
[14:13] <brycetd19m> Windows 7 8 windows 10 beta no issues. Cpu won't clock over 400mhz in ubuntu and ubuntu only sees 256mb of 8gb ram. My point is AFAIK this is a code issue. The cpu doesn't step up the clock as the Os doesn't tell it to.. Tried different drives my Nas runs ubuntu 14.04 tried the drive from  it as well as doing a clean install on 3 different hdds and two ssds
[14:14] <hyde> hi. I want to load a kernel module (softdog) at early stages of boot, before ethernet drivers for example. Now I am adding it to /etc/modules, and loads quite late, much later than I want. I've already added it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules too.
[14:14] <Craigwell> theteju: sda = your hard drive. sdb, sdx etc would be additional drives. sda is the only place for it to go.
[14:14] <hyde> So, what is correct way to get a kernel module to load as early as possible during boot?
[14:14] <mzaza> Why do battery on my Sony VAIO lasts less while using Ubuntu around 2 hours, while on Windows it lasts up to 5 hours? Is that normal?
[14:15] <Craigwell> brycetd19m: Ok, it sounds like the stock ubuntu doesn't have all the drivers to match your hardware. You might need to dig out drivers.. What's your hardware, homebrew ?
[14:15] <BLZbubba> on ubuntu, how do you kill a zombie process owned by init ?
[14:15] <theteju> Craigwell : I knew that,, what confused me is /dev/sda2 which is flagged as boot partition
[14:16] <CptRageToaster> mzaza: Long story short, Ubuntu doesn't make use of a lot of battery saving features on your Processor and GPU...
[14:16] <Craigwell> mzaza: unfortunately, yes - to a point. Try googling ubuntu battery life and check out some of the things you can do to help.
[14:16] <mzaza> Craigwell: CptRageToaster: Thanks
[14:16] <Craigwell> np
[14:16] <CptRageToaster> Ya... there's a lot you can do
[14:16] <k1l> mzaza: talk to sony to support linux better. espacially the vaio stuff is closed source and not supported that well.
[14:16] <hyde> BLZbubba: zombie process is already killed. just wait for init to collect it...
[14:16] <CptRageToaster> but it's hardware specific
[14:16] <BLZbubba> hyde: i've been waiting for about 12 hours
[14:17] <hyde> BLZbubba: if init does not wait on it to make it disappear, then that sounds like a bug somewhere...
[14:17] <CptRageToaster> ^
[14:17] <hyde> BLZbubba:  parent of the zombie process is really 1?
[14:17] <BLZbubba> yes
[14:17] <mzaza> k1l: Well Vaio is dead now, at least for Sony.
[14:17] <BLZbubba> it wouldn't surprise me if Upstart was brain dead about this too
[14:17] <Craigwell> ahh. I don't have vaio experience. My machines are either all Dell D6xx based, or E6xxx . I have the odd broadcom wireless issue, but nothing serious. Battery life generally matches win 7
[14:17] <BLZbubba> upstart == biggest linux disaster ever
[14:19] <mzaza> Craigwell: Another thing, I tried installing Unity 8 just to check it out and after I uninstalled it I keep on getting System errors. Any ideas?
[14:19] <Craigwell> theteju: Actually, yes that is odd. I don't know what to make of that fat32 partition. Pretty small. Was that a corporate machined managed by an IT dept somewhere? Almost makes me think someone had another bootloader on there for multiple windows installs?
[14:19] <k1l> BLZbubba: please stop that in here
[14:20] <Craigwell> theteju: but not on separate partitions. I don't know what else to make of that either, sorry
[14:20] <Craigwell> mzaza: you might have to do a clean install to get rid of that. Sounds like some things are still flagged to start on boot that are no longer installed. relatively minor, but annoying for sure
[14:20] <theteju> Craigwell : I understand,  probably HP trying to make it for recovery purpose
[14:21] <BLZbubba> k1l: stop what?
[14:21] <CptRageToaster> yeah, they do that
[14:21] <brycetd19m> Thank you craigwell someone finily agrees. So here goes core i5 4460 8gb ddr3 1600 (samsung dimms) gtx750 2gb asrock h81m dgs r2.0 Logitech m150 wireless keyboard and mouse
[14:21] <Craigwell> theteju: well yes, some of that is for sure - but there are still more partitions there than what make sense to me
[14:21] <k1l> BLZbubba: your sensless rantings.
[14:21] <CptRageToaster> BLZbubba: Ask questions, and you'll get support... throw useless comaplaints/opinions, you'll get kicked
[14:21] <theteju> Craigwell: so in case of recovery the system will boot from /dev/sda5 ,, but that way they wasted some of my hard drive space,, I believe !!!
[14:21] <mzaza> Craigwell: Clean install is not possible for me at the moment, can't be fixed/
[14:22] <BLZbubba> it's not senseless, this is a major bug if init doesn't kill zombies
[14:22] <Craigwell> theteju: yup
[14:22] <theteju> Craigwell : I am not a pro,, but at least thats what I interprete
[14:22] <k1l> !details | BLZbubba
[14:22] <k1l> if you want to kill a process use kill
[14:23] <hyde> BLZbubba: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/89135 maybe.
[14:23] <BLZbubba> k1l: google for zombie processes
[14:23] <SixtyFold> Anyone have a link to a tutorial about building a DE on a headless ubuntu install... IE, you need to install windows manager, display manager, file manager, terminal, all the components needed to get from headless to a fully functional GUI etc?
[14:23] <Craigwell> brycetd19m: nothing stands out to me. Something isn't happy. I'd basically start by googling the various hardware and ubuntu compatibility to see if something is a known issue. Otherwise, are you trying a LTS distro? Often better driver support or less issues generally.
[14:23] <k1l> BLZbubba: no i will not google for something when you cant even provide proper details but just keep on ranting.
[14:24] <Craigwell> mzaza: you need to backtrack and see what packages were installed and remove them one by one i think. try to see what's flagged to start on boot, go from there
[14:24] <Craigwell> anyways, my boy just woke up. I'm afk for now. good luck folks
[14:24] <brycetd19m> 14.04 lts 13.04 lts 12.04 lts and the 10.xx and 9.xx a
[14:24] <brycetd19m> All have the issue
[14:25] <k1l> 13.04 is no lts. and versions prior to 12.04 are not supported anymore on the desktop
[14:25] <BLZbubba> k1l: did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?  please calm down
[14:25] <brycetd19m> I know there all compatible I have once been able to boot normally and got a incomplete cpu support message
[14:27] <brycetd19m> Hence why I know full well that the package I need is in the restricted sources and as is the lan driver.
[14:27] <Craigwell> yeah brycetd19m My guess is cpu driver issue, but could be related to mobo / chipset drivers..
[14:28] <Craigwell> brycetd19m: yeah some of the stuff ends up being proprietary (like my broadcom issues) and you need to plumb around it. Not much canonical can do when manufactures wont license to them or provide info ./ open source stuff.
[14:28] <Craigwell> *manufacturers that is
[14:28] <brycetd19m> That would make sense. But intel drivers? I figured it would support it from the box
[14:30] <Craigwell> brycetd19m: I'm thinking more chipset. maybe not directly the processor itself. I never had i5 issues with my E6610ATG
[14:30] <Craigwell> anyway, boy's rattling his crib
[14:31] <brycetd19m> Mhmm as far as I know I have an Intel chipset. I know the first windows 8.1 retail release did have the same issue as ubuntu has but it was patched within a few weeks.
[14:35] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: GPU issue?  or CPU?
[14:36] <brycetd19m> Cpu issue
[14:36] <CptRageToaster> have you tried booting to "recovery" mode or whatever it's called?
[14:37] <brycetd19m> I would if I could even boot it takes 4 hours + to pass grub.
[14:37] <CptRageToaster> see that's what gets me
[14:37] <tdannecy> I don't know how to explain what's happening here, so I'm having an issue Googling it to find out what's the problem with my Ubuntu server. Can someone help me fix this visual issue? http://i.imgur.com/wVJPqOx.png I'm connecting through putty on Windows with the default settings.
[14:37] <CptRageToaster> You can't blame ubuntu for any problem that occurs in grub
[14:38] <CptRageToaster> grub is what's in charge of booting the linux kernel for ubuntu
[14:38] <brycetd19m> But the problem still happens in ubuntu and if I use another boot loader I still have the same issue.
[14:38] <CptRageToaster> so... if your grub has issues, then it can't be a problem with your kernel
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> so then what your experiencing is much more system-wide than just "Ubuntu doesn't work with my processor"
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> While the above is a true fact
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> you ALSO have issues with grub
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> and potentially other bootloaders?
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> not certain
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> is your firmware up to date on the mobo?
[14:39] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: ^
[14:40] <CptRageToaster> tdannecy: Are you seeing that on a monitor plugged into the machine?
[14:40] <CptRageToaster> or did you ssh into the server?
[14:40] <brycetd19m> Does not explain how windows was able to resolve the issue with in Ina week of launching windows 8.1. The mobo currently reads that it is fully up to date. The mobo had to be updated to even run my cpu.
[14:40] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: Windows is in charge of it's bootloader
[14:41] <tdannecy> CptRageToaster: That's in Putty over ssh.
[14:41] <CptRageToaster> tdannecy: I don't know what the problem is exactly, but try switching everything over to UTF-8
[14:41] <CptRageToaster> You can make that change in putty, but you ALSO have to tell your server to use it
[14:41] <CptRageToaster> also, I meant to use its* 4 messages up
[14:42] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: I'd contact support for your mobo, citing issues with grub, and the specific linux kernel your trying to run
[14:42] <tdannecy> CptRageToaster: Bingo. Thanks.
[14:43] <CptRageToaster> tdannecy: :D
[14:43] <DJones> tdannecy: I've had the same problem in the past, it is the UTF8 change that needs to be made
[14:43] <brycetd19m> Yes......maybe I'm over looking something but I know at least one of the 3rd party boot loaders had no issues and but the second ubuntu loaded it would grind to a halt. Completely understandable when the Os only sees 256mb ram and 400mhz cpu as the max/min.
[14:43] <tdannecy> DJones: Yep! Thanks for the help!
[14:48] <newguy> ok hello and good morning everyone
[14:48] <newguy> is anyone avalible to help on a small issue iam having?
[14:49] <CptRageToaster> newguy: Just ask a question
[14:49] <CptRageToaster> and if someone knows what's up, they'll answer after a while
[14:51] <newguy> ok  i downloaded ubuntu desktop and i used win7 to extract it (yes iam on windwows)  when i extract it i dont get a image file  just a folder with a bunch of files   what am i doing wrong?
[14:51] <dark_> wats up
[14:52] <dark_> hey '
[14:52] <DJones> newguy: You don't need to extract it, you just need to burn the iso to a dvd or onto a usb stick
[14:52] <CptRageToaster> newguy: Did you download a file that ended with the .iso extension?
[14:52] <Number5> Hello guys, how can I set DNS permanently so it won't lost after reboot? If I want to edit it in /etc/resolv.conf, I see a comment in the file which says that this file will be overwritten. So what am I suppose to do?
[14:52] <CptRageToaster> Number5: Are you using the networking GUI thingy?
[14:52] <CptRageToaster> I think that's just called "Networking"
[14:53] <DJones> newguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[14:53] <CptRageToaster> Number5: or are you using /etc/network/interfaces
[14:53] <Number5> CptRageToaster, not personally but a collegue with limited experience in Linux environment has installed it.
[14:53] <CptRageToaster> You can set DNS in the GUI
[14:53] <Number5> CptRageToaster, it is using GUI
[14:54] <CptRageToaster> otherwise, if you don't have that package installed, then you'll have to add the DNS entry to the adaptor entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:54] <Number5> CptRageToaster, yes but after reboot the DNS is cleared or overwritten with nothing
[14:54] <newguy> i downloaded it from their website  iam going to try pointing the linuxlive stright to the un extraced download
[14:54] <ikonia> Number5: thats becauuse it's being supplied by your dhcp server
[14:54] <CptRageToaster> you said he installed "Networking" as a standalone?
[14:54] <ikonia> why do you want to use different dns servers than your dhcp provider
[14:54] <CptRageToaster> ikonia: You should still be able to override it
[14:54] <CptRageToaster> something's up
[14:54] <ikonia> CptRageToaster: you can
[14:55] <CptRageToaster> I suspect that the user borked their installation of the GUI somehow...
[14:55] <ikonia> I suspect not
[14:55] <Number5> ikonia, nope, as I use static ip address, which I had to configure using that stupid GUI
[14:55] <ikonia> I suspect they are just not aware of how dns masq is setup
[14:55] <roundcircle> hey
[14:55] <ikonia> Number5: what is the current entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:55] <ikonia> Number5: is it 127.0.0.1 ?
[14:55] <CptRageToaster> deferring
[14:55] <roundcircle> I'm experiencing trouble with nfs4_setfacl and have no clue why it happens
[14:55] <tgm4883> Number5: where are you looking to see that your DNS settings don't stick?
[14:56] <Number5> ikonia, it's empty, except with a comment that the file will be overwritten.
[14:56] <roundcircle> anyone around with more knowledge about nfs4acl?\
[14:56] <ikonia> Number5: if you set them to a profile in network manager - they will stiick,
[14:56] <Number5> It's like saying don't try buddy, it won't work from terminal
[14:56] <Number5> ikonia, ok thnx
[14:56] <Number5> CptRageToaster, thank you too
[14:56] <tgm4883> Number5: no, it's saying don't edit this, since you don't know how it's created
[14:57] <newguy> working so far...    had anyone tryed out linux adacmey dot com?
[14:57] <mzaza> Hello, I have followed the following tutorial for setting power management in my Vaio. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower But It seems that it doesn't auto-start on boot, is that correct?
[14:57] <Number5> tgm4883, wow, weird message than.
[14:57] <CptRageToaster> mzaza: Reboot and see if it started?
[14:58] <CptRageToaster> if it didn't, add the startup command to your profile?
[14:58] <craigbass76> I can't change permissions on a file.  I've got a fat32 partition mounted up, and sudo chmod 777 /mount-point/file, and the file still has 755 permissions afterward.
[14:58] <CptRageToaster> a hack, if you don't want to mess with upstart
[14:58] <tgm4883> Number5: not really, if you know how it gets generated. Anyhow, were you able to add the DNS settings in network manager?
[14:58] <mzaza> CptRageToaster: Reboot on battery? or doesn't matter?
[14:58] <ikonia> craigbass76: fat does not support permissions
[14:58] <mcphail> craigbass76: fat32 filesystems don't support permissions
[14:59] <brycetd19m> Ikonia many people use a different DNS then there dhcp provider my router uses my adsl providers DNS as they check that the router is running it where as my pc runs the Google DNS. My provider DNS Is limited in requests.
[14:59] <craigbass76> ikonia, mcphail Ahhh...  So how do I share this out via samba so that anyone can write to it?
[14:59] <CptRageToaster> mzaza: I'm uncertain, I'd suspect that any time the system boots, it'd attempt to start the service... but I don't know anything about your setup
[14:59] <roundcircle> any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[14:59] <Eair> Hi all. In my ubuntu 14.10, "System Settings-->Keyboard-->Repeat Keys" settings are not working.
[14:59] <ikonia> brycetd19m: I wasn't asking you why you use it, I was asking why the specific person was
[14:59] <mcphail> craigbass76: you can change the global permissions for the FAT mount in /etc/fstab
[14:59] <tgm4883> craigbass76: you can mount it with specific permissions
[14:59] <CptRageToaster> roundcircle: I don't know if anyone here knows nfs4acl
[15:00] <CptRageToaster> google may be more helpful
[15:00] <mcphail> craigbass76: or use a better filesystem
[15:00] <roundcircle> CptRageToaster: google is as helpful as an ostrich
[15:00] <Number5> tgm4883, yes, but it gets cleared after reboot. Anyway, I'll figure that out later. Now I can install some software from source :P
[15:00] <CptRageToaster> well... I mean... if you needed really large eggs all of a sudden ;)
[15:01] <craigbass76> mcphail, I try to tell the guy that...  and to buy something newer than a 2002 dell server...
[15:01] <tgm4883> Number5: I find that very odd, but if you really must do it from the terminal then you might want to look in the /etc/resolv.conf.d directory
[15:01] <CptRageToaster> Number5: I sheepishly must admit that I uninstall the "networking" GUI on my machines, so I can use the silly "/etc/networking/interfaces" setup
[15:01] <roundcircle> CptRageToaster: well I asked google before and found some bugs from 2009 and 2011
[15:01] <roundcircle> but well no solution
[15:02] <roundcircle> Failed setxattr operation: Invalid argument
[15:02] <roundcircle> An error occurred during recursive file tree walk.
[15:02] <Number5> tgm4883, I don't have to, but I just prefer terminal with ssh.
[15:02] <mcphail> craigbass76: hardware from 2002 may be ok, but filesystems from 1992 aren't :)
[15:02] <roundcircle> when I just want to add an ACE for an directory
[15:02] <Number5> CptRageToaster, thnx for the tip.
[15:02] <tgm4883> Number5: then edit the files in that directory. If you look at them it should be fairly obvious what is happening
[15:02] <tallymarkd_> hiii
[15:03] <CptRageToaster> tgm4883: Those files MAY be auto-generated on boot...
[15:03] <brycetd19m> Ikonia I would ask if you know how to get ubuntu running on the i5 4460 but ubuntu has a long standing issue with the chip. And from the few posts I have seen the dev's have come to agree there is no real reason to fix the problem.
[15:03] <tgm4883> CptRageToaster: the files inside /etc/resolv.conf.d/ ? What package would autogenerate those files?
[15:03] <CptRageToaster> if that's correct, then they're in the same boat.  Number5 said they could configure the DNS properly, but the change wouldn't stick for some reason after reboot...
[15:03] <newguy> cptragetoaster: well it worked  thanks  and seems like the new lili had option to virtualize this key   pretty awesome!
[15:04] <tgm4883> mcphail: so we shouldn't use ext based filesystems?
[15:04]  * mcphail loves btrfs
[15:04] <CptRageToaster> tgm4883: When the networkign service starts, I recall Ubuntu's `Networking` blowing some of my networking configurations away
[15:04] <CptRageToaster> but... again
[15:04] <CptRageToaster> I don't really understand it
[15:04] <CptRageToaster> so I probably shouldn't be talking
[15:04] <mcphail> tgm4883: i take your point
[15:05] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, extfs is fine , stable and usable and proven!
[15:05] <Es0teric> anyone here use varnish?
[15:05] <roundcircle> well im off talking to my boss
[15:05] <tgm4883> CptRageToaster: The files in that directory are the ones that generate /etc/resolv.conf  It would make no sense for those to be autogenerated (and what would they be generated from?) ;)
[15:05] <tgm4883> BluesKaj: I know, I was merely pointing out the absurdness of saying we shouldn't use filesystems from 1992
[15:06] <tallymarkd_> i have a dumb question, but is there like a general chat here
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !ot | tallymarkd
[15:07] <CptRageToaster> tgm4883: Good to know...
[15:07] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, yeah like #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <tgm4883> BluesKaj: huh?
[15:08] <Eair> 大家好，有谁知道ubuntu 14.10键盘repeat keys设置为什么无效吗？
[15:08] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, eh?
[15:08] <somsip> !zh | Eair
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !cn | Eair
[15:09] <Es0teric> ubottu that looks like japanese o.O
[15:09] <Es0teric> i could be wrong though..
[15:09] <tgm4883> !jp
[15:09] <Eair> can someone tell me why repeat keys setting in ubuntu 14.10 is not working
[15:09] <Eair> ?
[15:09] <bazhang> it's chinese
[15:09] <Es0teric> bazhang ah
[15:10] <Es0teric> kinda looked like dude was using katakana only
[15:10] <Eair> can someone tell me why 'repeat keys' setting in ubuntu 14.10 is not working?
[15:11] <Eair> (大家好，有谁知道ubuntu 14.10键盘repeat keys设置为什么无效吗？)
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Eair, this is an english only channel.  take the chinese text to #ubuntu-cn please
[15:11] <cfhowlett> !patience | Eair
[15:12] <Eair> thx, ubottu
[15:28] <ngochai>  Hi guys, my Xorg server crashes like this http://pastebin.com/qXATtm4s any idea?
[15:30] <shaker> hi
[15:31] <hamnstar> hello
[15:31] <hamnstar> shaker: o/
[15:44] <ronin> Hello! Can you help me? What is "BeLin Desktop"?
[15:46] <ronin> http://i.minus.com/ibbhDsoLMquX54.png
[15:47] <OerHeks> ronin, not an official desktop in the ubuntu repo's.
[15:47] <ronin> How can I remove it?
[15:48] <OerHeks> ronin, depends how you added that desktop, with a PPA?
[15:49] <Pici> Looks like it might be a Hungarian Ubuntu variant: http://www.belin.hu/
[15:49] <Pici> (also a PPA is out there)
[15:49] <ronin> OerHeks, I have no idea.. =(
[15:49] <OerHeks> THis old ppa maybe ? https://launchpad.net/~hammera/+archive/ubuntu/belin-trusty
[15:49] <DJones> I'd found https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/216521
[15:50] <DJones> and https://launchpad.net/belin In hungarian
[15:50] <OerHeks> "​​specifically for the Hungarian visually impaired users. " interesting
[15:51] <papa> hi.
[15:51] <wiredfool> Just upgraded my xubunutu desktop from precise to trusty, and my xkeyboardmap keeps resetting, about every 12-24 hours. Keyboard is plugged into a motherboard usb port. ideas? http://pastebin.com/jqNrTijT
[15:52] <ronin> I have no idea how it is installed.. And no idea how to remove
[15:52] <OerHeks> ronin, go into softwarecenter > edit > softwaresources, and see if there is a repository line in that
[15:53] <OerHeks> ronin, if it has, remove that ppa with ppa-purge
[15:53] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[15:53] <dtscode> https://bpaste.net/show/abac4200cd89 is there an easy way to install these?
[15:54] <ronin> OerHeks, nothing about belin there
[15:56] <OerHeks> ronin, to check, open terminal: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:57] <OerHeks> and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <iuza> wiredfool, : try  dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data
[15:58] <ronin> belin-trusty-trusty.list and belin-trusty-trusty.list.save there. But they are empty
[15:59] <wiredfool> iuza: that quietly reset the keyboard map to the default
[16:01] <wiredfool> debconf-show xkb-data doesn't return anything
[16:01] <OerHeks> ronin, oke, so remove that ppa with "sudo  ppa-purge ppa:belin/trusty " and logout/login other  desktop
[16:02] <OerHeks> if ppa-purge is not installed, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[16:03] <ronin> OerHeks, Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: belin trusty
[16:03] <OerHeks> ronin, odd, as it seems to come from https://bugs.launchpad.net/~belin/+archive/ubuntu/trusty
[16:05] <kibMaf> how can I correct If I chmod +777 / recursively?
[16:05] <ronin> OerHeks, maybe i need to add that ppa, and then purge?
[16:05] <mcphail> kibMaf: that's not easy to correct
[16:05] <OerHeks> kibMaf, backup your data and reinstall
[16:05] <OerHeks> ronin, that ppa is added, no need to add it again i guess
[16:05] <mcphail> kibMaf: did you run it as root?
[16:05] <kibMaf> OerHeks: aint other option?
[16:06] <kibMaf> mcphail: yes
[16:06] <mcphail> kibMaf: reinstall would be the easiest way
[16:07] <kibMaf> mcphail: thanks,,, I will consider other options if any.Thanks
[16:07] <ronin> OerHeks, it seems to me that my workaround works... PPA purged successfully using aptitude fallback
[16:09] <ronin> OerHeks, Now it is Ubuntu Desktop, but i think i need to reboot
[16:12] <ronin> OerHeks, Now It is all ok! Thank you!
[16:12] <OerHeks> ronin, have fun
[16:22] <aarwine> how do I find the flags an upstream pkg was compiled with? is there a build system i can look at somewhere?
[16:23] <OerHeks> aarwine, sure, on launchpad you can find the src and buildflags
[16:23] <aarwine> OerHeks: thanks
[16:25] <TheReduxPL> Hello, I would like to configure an NTFS partition so I'd be able to use chmod on it but I want it to work with both Windows and Ubuntu. Would "sudo ntfs-3g.usermap /dev/sda" do that?
[16:26] <OerHeks> TheReduxPL, you won't be able to do chmod on NTFS AFAIK
[16:26] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-do-i-use-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[16:27] <maku_> I'm getting black screen instead of password promt during boot with fresh install of FDE enabled 14.04.2 - any idea what might cause it?
[16:27] <cfhowlett> fde?
[16:27] <TheReduxPL> I was looking there but those methods don't mention if it works on both systems
[16:27] <chrisss123456> super simple question: im installing windows on a virtualbox machine in ubuntu 14.04 and during the setup it asks what to format the 10gb i've allocated the virtual machine to. does this format an actual drive or what exactly does this do?
[16:27] <TheReduxPL> chrisss123456, no, it formats the virtual drive. The physical drive is untouched
[16:27] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, VIRTUAL driver
[16:28] <maku_> cfhowlett: full disk encryption, it requires a separate password before OS boots
[16:28] <chrisss123456> TheReduxPL: cfhowlett cool, so whatever i format it to, it doesnt matter
[16:28] <cfhowlett> chrisss123456, go wild ...
[16:33] <Guest74957> Hi. First time using Ubuntu and irq. Is this working?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, yes
[16:34] <Guest74957> Great ! Thank you.
[16:34] <Guest74957> Anyone have experience installing Xen hypervisor?
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, please avoid "has anyone ..." questions.  Literal answer is "yes" but that is probably not what you really want to know.  read and rephrase your query.
[16:36] <cfhowlett> https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[16:36] <cfhowlett> !details
[16:41] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to disable the webcam? through the terminal or something?
[16:41] <oli_b> Hi all
[16:42] <Guest74957> cfhowlett, ubottu; Thank you for the protocol. I am newly installing Ubuntu 14.04.2 on a HP DL380p Gen8 server. Want to install a type-1 hypervisor and decided on Xen. What is the best resource (book or internet) for installation and administration? I'm also unfamiliar with !pastebin
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, no problem ...
[16:43] <chotaz> How do I prevent ubuntu from automounting my cellphone?
[16:43] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, sudo apt-get install pastebinit will install the app.  then run your command followed by |pastebinit for an IRC friendly readout of your terminal output.  example: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[16:45] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, so dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit returns this url http://paste.ubuntu.com/10679143/
[16:46] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, fun fact: many distros use host pastebinit.  if you edit your .pastebinit.xml you can select your preferred host!
[16:47] <Guest74957> cfhowlett, thank you. Will do and I will familiarize myself with IRC portocol more before coming back on. Thanks again.
[16:48] <cfhowlett> chotaz, lock your phone before plugging in.  ubuntu won't mount a locked phone
[16:48] <cfhowlett> Guest74957, :)
[16:48] <Eburitus> i'm having difficulties with sound. I just bought mad catz freq 5 headset and now i can't hear a thing from my headset with linux. no problem with windows.
[16:49] <Ackis> Is there a way that I can set up on a local dns when I type in the url: http://foo.home.lan it will redirect me to something like: http://x.x.x.x:1000 ? or even http -> https redirect?
[16:50] <chotaz> cfhowlett: it does mount it, it just shows up as empty untill I unlock it
[16:51] <wiredfool> Ackis: have you looked at the .local domain?
[16:53] <Ackis> wiredfool: no, I didn't even know about it - all the examples I've found were based on home.lan domain
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> Ackis: examples?
[16:54] <wiredfool> .local is mdns, if you have a web server on machinename, it's likely at http://machinename.local
[16:54] <Ackis> my google searches for setting up home network services - don't have the urls - but examples I want for my home are things like plex.home.lan or znc.home.lan
[16:54] <wiredfool> there are ways of advertising ports as well
[16:55] <CptRageToaster> Ackis: Look up Avahi
[16:55] <Ackis> thanks CptRageToaster I'll check that out
[16:55] <CptRageToaster> np
[16:56] <Ackis> wiredfool: I'll be googling that term as well, thanks
[16:56] <iuza> chotaz try installing dconf editor
[16:57] <mcphail> Ackis: yes, avahi is the way forward. Simple and does what you need
[16:59] <kokut> https://superuser.com/questions/893900/block-chrome-from-accessing-webcam-on-ubuntu
[17:05] <shudon> hi all :) i used tweak tool to enable sloppy focus mode. neither sloppy nor mouse mode works: i always have to click to focus!
[17:05] <shudon> anyone know the fix?
[17:05] <shudon> i'm using ubuntu 14.04 gnome desktop
[17:06] <Amm0n> kokut, do you want to disable it permanently?
[17:06] <archip> Anyone here using midi keyboard with ubuntu? I am trying to find a midi soundcard preferably that connects over USB to hook up a synthesizer
[17:08] <kokut> Amm0n: no, i want to disable when i want
[17:08] <noah123> Can someone guide me through the installation of Kubuntu? Gonna use Dual Boot with Windows 7
[17:09] <CptRageToaster> noah123: google it?
[17:09] <noah123> CptRageToaster: I have tried everything
[17:09] <kokut> Amm0n: i use my webcam a lot, its just annoying as hell that every time i open the ****** hangouts it starts broadcasting
[17:09] <kokut> Amm0n: ideally i would like to enable disable it when i want, so i dont have to use tape over it, it looks gross and its time consuming
[17:09] <noah123> When I create a ext4 partition, it says "unuseable" on the rest of the unallocated space, CptRageToaster
[17:10] <noah123> Then I need someone to guide me through
[17:10] <brycetd19m> Okay I've found a sort of answer to my ubuntu clock problem. If I set the system to automatically over clock the system will always stay at max clock speed allowing me to boot and setup ubuntu/grub. But as soon as I set the multiplier back to normal the system will respond the same as before.
[17:10] <noah123> So I know I'm doing right
[17:11] <k1l_> brycetd19m: that sounds like a really strange bug with the mainboard
[17:11] <noah123> So can someone guide me?
[17:12] <brycetd19m> Oh the board is fine as far as I can see ubuntu only sees once clock speed. Can't detect anything other then what was loaded on boot.
[17:12] <CptRageToaster> k1l_: That's what I said earlier
[17:12] <noah123> No-one?
[17:13] <brycetd19m> Also contacted the makers of the board (asrock) the assured me the device is ubuntu certified.
[17:13] <k1l_> noah123: so you made more or exact 4 primary partitions?
[17:13] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: Which is why you should go to THEM for support!
[17:13] <Amm0n> kokut, you could unload the kernel module temporarly
[17:13] <noah123> k1l_: 4
[17:13] <noah123> partitions
[17:13] <noah123> after the ext4 one
[17:14] <k1l_> noah123: you cant make 5 primary so the left space is unusable
[17:14] <kokut> Amm0n: yea, can i do that on the fly? Like unload it/load it without having to reboot? that would be neat, also are you sure i won't break anything right? I use this machine for work mostly
[17:14] <captainpicard> can't get audio passthrough to work. im on ubuntu 14.04, sound plays fine from this box. i have another box's audio output connected to the input of this box. under the sound settings, i can see a signal is coming in through line in from the other box.
[17:15] <captainpicard> but for some reason, ubuntu isnt connecting the input to the output
[17:15] <noah123> k1l_: that's why I want someone to guide me. I don't understand ANYTHING
[17:15] <Nicola_G> Does a PC can boot Ubuntu with fastboot active?
[17:16] <k1l_> noah123: erase the ext4 one, make a extended one instead and put the new ubuntu partitions into that one.
[17:16] <daftykins> Nicola_G: typically no
[17:16] <noah123> How k1l_ ?
[17:16] <Nicola_G> Thx
[17:16] <Amm0n> kokut, yes you can do this without reboot via commandline
[17:17] <brycetd19m> Again it's a ubuntu issue I did see a few launchpad bugs detailing the issue and what was required to fix it. From what I've seen you have to turn off speed step and manually edit the clock speeds in the mobo settings or run about 3 pages through the terminal 1 line at a time.
[17:17] <noah123> k1l_: as said I don't know anything. I need help my someone during the installation
[17:17] <k1l_> how did you create that ext4?
[17:17] <noah123> I don't remember
[17:18] <k1l_> what else is on that disk
[17:18] <noah123> k1l_: can you help me in PM?
[17:18] <noah123> It's so hard here
[17:18] <noah123> and confusing ;)
[17:19] <noah123> or?
[17:19] <noah123> :)
[17:20] <k1l_> keep support in here please
[17:20] <noah123> ;(
[17:20] <noah123> I have so many questions
[17:20] <anonymous_> any news ?
[17:21] <Amm0n> kokut, identify your card and what module is in use, then unload the module with sudo modprobe -r module and to load it again sudo modprobe module
[17:21] <Amm0n> kokut, that shouldn't break anything
[17:21] <kokut> Amm0n: i'm a lil scared
[17:22] <iuza> noah123: are you on gpt ?
[17:22] <noah123> k1l_: first, tell me what partitions to create, please ...
[17:22] <noah123> Oh
[17:22] <noah123> What?
[17:22] <noah123> iuza
[17:22] <CptRageToaster> brycetd19m: It's not soley ubuntu's issue if you have the same problem with grub,...
[17:22] <rypervenche> !enter | noah123
[17:22] <noah123> ?
[17:22] <rypervenche> bleh, wrong command
[17:23] <Amm0n> kokut, this is not a permanent setting if you reboot everything should be as it was before
[17:23] <iuza> noah123: sometimes if the ubuntu installer cant see windows is because the GPT
[17:23] <Amm0n> kokut, you need to blacklist the module if you want this permanent
[17:23] <brycetd19m> Looking at some of the suggested launchpad fixes is a little scary 3 pages of terminal commands just so you don't have to at every single reboot set the cpu to run at max clock and risk damage/thermal throttling still I would like to know why all this is needed.
[17:24] <noah123> It can see Windows, iuza
[17:24] <kokut> Amm0n: no i dont want it permanent
[17:24] <kokut> Amm0n: how can i find the module?
[17:25] <htqp> Bryanstein: because this is unpaid volunteer tech support raising from the goodness of your peer users' heart
[17:25] <iuza> noah123: open a shell and  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, if you get nothing then   sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:25] <htqp> brycetd19m: was for you
[17:25] <zerothis> I plugged in my android tablet and the mount icon shows an iPoo. I know lots of complicated ways to change it to a tablet, android phone, or custom icon (links, image renames, etc), is there a simple way?
[17:25] <Amm0n> kokut, sudo lsmod and sudo modinfo module
[17:25] <htqp> sorry Bryanstein ignore me please
[17:26] <noah123> iuza: I am not using Kubuntu
[17:26] <Amm0n> kokut, and if you don't want it permanent don't blacklist it :)
[17:26] <noah123> I'm trying to install it, as I said
[17:26] <iuza> noah123: what do you mean ?
[17:27] <iuza> noah123: try to install , if you get stucked  try the commands i gave you
[17:30] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to debug a program using GDB, but whenever I tell GDB to run my program, it opens a shell instead.
[17:31] <Amm0n> kokut, maybe its uvcvideo.. depends on your cam.. try sudo modinfo uvcvideo to see if its in use
[17:31] <hseg> Any ideas why?
[17:34] <kokut> Amm0n: i opened cheese and it shows 1
[17:34] <kokut> Amm0n: might be that one
[17:35] <kokut> Amm0n: so how do i load it/unload it?
[17:36] <Amm0n> kokut, i told you^ sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo to unload, sudo modprobe uvcvideo to load
[17:38] <Amm0n> kokut, read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[17:39] <kokut> Amm0n: wow man it worked
[17:39] <kokut> Amm0n: i owe u
[17:39] <kokut> ty
[17:39] <Amm0n> yw
[17:39] <noahmg123> I want to chroot into my secondary linux instalation from my primary (I am triple booted with them and windows)
[17:40] <EriC^^> !chroot
[17:40] <noah123> k1l_: is extended partition same as Partition Table?
[17:41] <k1l_> noah123: no
[17:41] <k1l_> partition table is the list where its written which partition starts where and such.
[17:41] <noah123> k1l_: how do I create an extended partition?
[17:42] <k1l_> noah123: what program do you use right now? gparted?
[17:42] <noah123> k1l_: Windows partition manager...
[17:43] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to debug a program using GDB, but whenever I tell GDB to run my program, it opens a shell instead.
[17:43] <noahmg123> EriC^^: Simply, what would be the best way to run a terminal and make it think it is in the other installation when it it in this one?
[17:43] <k1l_> noah123: well, i dont think you can make the ubuntu partitions with that. what about you boot up a live-usb/dvd ubuntu for that task?
[17:44] <k1l_> noahmg123: its called "chroot"
[17:44] <EriC^^> noahmg123, mount the partitions of the installation one by one and then mount the virtual filesystems and chroot
[17:44] <noah123> Can't do that, I want to keep my USB fresh k1l_
[17:44] <noahmg123> I have mounted the partiton of the install (only one). how do I do the next two steps?
[17:45] <k1l_> noah123: well, you need to have a live usb/dvd to isntall ubuntu anyway
[17:45] <noah123> Yes I have k1l_
[17:45] <troulouliou_dev> hi i m looking for an ubuntu compatible laptop with a fingerprint reader and 4k 15.4 glossy screen; any suggestion ?
[17:45] <noah123> But I want to keep it fresh from programs
[17:46] <EriC^^> noahmg123, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done (replace /mnt with where ever you mounted your installation)
[17:46] <noah123> EriC^^: I'm on Windows
[17:46] <noah123> I want to create an extended partition there
[17:46] <EriC^^> noah123, not you :)
[17:46] <k1l_> noah123: we dont need to install programs. the partition program is included on that live usb
[17:46] <noah123> Oh
[17:46] <noahmg123> what do you mean by "for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run"
[17:46] <k1l_> noah123: and noahmg123 are very similar nicks :)
[17:46] <noah123> Oh ok k1l_
[17:47] <EriC^^> noahmg123, it's a command to run in a terminal
[17:47] <noahmg123> ok
[17:47] <noah123> Will it work even if nothing is saved using a Live USB? k1l_
[17:47] <noahmg123> EriC^^: that verbatim?
[17:47] <EriC^^> yes for i ... til ; done
[17:47] <noahmg123> EriC^^: do I need to be in a cetain folder?
[17:47] <EriC^^> no
[17:48] <noahmg123> thx
[17:48] <noahmg123> EriC^^: gave me a new prompt
[17:48] <noahmg123> with just >
[17:49] <k1l_> noah123: yes. but if you are on windows right now, you can use the windows program to shrink the windows partition to make enough room for ubuntu, if you did not already do that
[17:49] <EriC^^> noahmg123, probably a typo somewhere
[17:49] <soahccc> I have no ideas whether this makes sense but can you emulate SAT>IP resp. IPTV? I have an application which only understands SAT>IP but I want to use it with normal rtmp streams. I was unable to find anything suitable, basically I want to emulate a SAT>IP signal
[17:49] <noah123> How much in GB k1l_ ?
[17:49] <noahmg123> for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run is what I ran
[17:50] <EriC^^> noahmg123, you need to run the whole thing :)
[17:50] <noahmg123> so the sudo
[17:50] <EriC^^> noahmg123, for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:50] <k1l_> noah123: the system needs fro 5 to 15GB (depends on how much programs you want to install). then add the amount of GB you want to store for user data like photos, downloads, music, etc.
[17:51] <EriC^^> noahmg123, the whole line, they aren't separate commands
[17:52] <EriC^^> noahmg123, where did you mount your installation btw?
[17:52] <k1l_> noahmg123: that is called a "one liner". its a short algorhythm like a small program that will run several commands  and is more easier to copy and paste than the 6 lines of commands you will need to copy and paste if you seperate them
[17:54] <ogfksmrk> Eric^^: my computer crashed
[17:55] <EriC^^> ogfksmrk, ok
[17:55] <ogfksmrk> EriC^^ rebooting it now
[17:56] <noahmg123> EriC^^: back
[17:56] <EriC^^> wb
[17:58] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: srry, got disconnected Can you resend the command?
[17:58] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:58] <EriC^^> mount your installation at /mnt first
[17:59] <noahmg123_> it's mounted at /media/noah/... is that ok?
[17:59] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, you'd have to type that in the for i.. command instead of /mnt
[18:00] <noahmg123_> ok
[18:00] <noahmg123_> just at that one point right?
[18:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:01] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Good
[18:01] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Now is it in?
[18:01] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, did you run the command?
[18:01] <noahmg123_> yes
[18:01] <brycetd19m> Just went to install ubuntu again and am unable to create partitions from the installer.
[18:01] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chroot /media/.....
[18:02] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Yay it works!
[18:02] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, on your machine if you want you can type xhost +local:
[18:02] <EriC^^> and then in your chroot type export DISPLAY=:0
[18:03] <EriC^^> that will let you run graphical programs from your chroot in your current xserver
[18:03] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Well both installs are on the same computer so....
[18:03] <EriC^^> anyways if you ever need to :P
[18:04] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: how would I do what you said?
[18:04] <brycetd19m> How large should I make the swap 25gb??
[18:04] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, open a terminal and type xhost +local:
[18:05] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: could I for my current machine?
[18:05] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, and in your chroot terminal type export DISPLAY=:0
[18:05] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, yeah
[18:05] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Got it
[18:05] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, then if you type in your chroot <name of graphical app> it should launch
[18:06] <noahmg123_> EriC^^:  xhost:  bad hostname "local"
[18:06] <EriC^^> did you type xhost +local:
[18:06] <EriC^^> ?
[18:06] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: forgot the colon
[18:07] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: type export DISPLAY=:0 did not work
[18:07] <noahmg123_> oops
[18:07] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, you typed type? :P
[18:07] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: :P OK
[18:08] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: so if I type gedit, it won't work, but if I type chroot gedit it will?
[18:08] <EriC^^> no, just gedit
[18:09] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: then what was the "chroot <name of graphical app>" for?
[18:09] <noahmg123_> in you chroot
[18:09] <noahmg123_> nevermind
[18:09] <noahmg123_> :PPPPPPP
[18:09] <EriC^^> hehe
[18:10] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Thank you!
[18:10] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, no problem!
[18:10] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Bye!
[18:12] <brycetd19m> Why is ubuntu soooooo damn blury it's unreadable.
[18:13] <daftykins> brycetd19m: must be your setup, never seen issues
[18:13] <daftykins> believe it or not of the millions of users i think they'd have noticed such a glaring problem :)
[18:22] <brycetd19m> Okay here's a screen shot http://m.imgur.com/7fQTtJB
[18:23] <daftykins> brycetd19m: looks perfect, but that's 1024x768 - i doubt in 2015 you're using that as a desktop resolution
[18:23] <daftykins> thus you must have your display configured incorrectly
[18:24] <brycetd19m> Not really no. I have 2 screens connected and one runs at 1440x900 and one is a Samsung 42 inch TV.
[18:24] <daftykins> brycetd19m: yeah so no wonder it's looking blurry :) is this a live session or a clean installation?
[18:25] <daftykins> be nice if you could reply quicker
[18:26] <brycetd19m> Clean install only options are 1024x768 and 800x600
[18:27] <daftykins> brycetd19m: what graphics hardware? what version? what graphics driver?
[18:27] <daftykins> (version of ubuntu)
[18:28] <brycetd19m> Gtx750 2gb and ubuntu 14.04 unsure on drivers as of yet
[18:28] <daftykins> brycetd19m: 750 Ti? or vanilla
[18:28] <daftykins> desktop system?
[18:30] <brycetd19m> Guessing a ti but not completely sure it's an Asus card so it's just got the Asus branding doesn't seam or have anything other then the card name and Asus model number. Yes it's a desktop system
[18:30] <daftykins> brycetd19m: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit"
[18:31] <brycetd19m> Wtf terminal is not installed.........
[18:31] <daftykins> i doubt that
[18:31] <k1l_> press alt+ctrl+t
[18:31] <brycetd19m> Looking at the search right now typed term and got no results.
[18:32] <k1l_> its called "gnome-terminal"
[18:32] <k1l_> what sort of ubuntu is that then?
[18:32] <daftykins> judging by the screenshot it's a normal 14.04 unity desktop
[18:33] <k1l_> *scrolling to the backlog* ah yes, that is unity, but i dont know the version :)
[18:33] <brycetd19m> Control alt t works just doesn't show in the search.
[18:34] <daftykins> not if you type the wrong prog name i guess, no
[18:36] <brycetd19m> Paste.ubuntu.com/10679780/ ?? There is there terminal output I'm guessing
[18:36] <iuza> brycetd19m,  try   lspci -k | grep VGA   -A  4
[18:37] <daftykins> iuza: what's the point? we have the answer.
[18:37] <daftykins> why waste a users time
[18:37] <brycetd19m> Yeah that's just wrong ubuntu is showing the wrong cpu I don't have a xeon
[18:37] <daftykins> brycetd19m: it is a vanilla 750, tried installing the nvidia proprietary driver? type 'additional drivers' into the dash to run it
[18:37] <teward> How can I rename an interface's identifier (eth0 for instance) for a given interface on a system
[18:37] <daftykins> brycetd19m: nah you're interpreting the responses incorrectly :)
[18:38] <k1l_> teward: it was something with udev rules iirc.
[18:38] <JuJuBee> What is the real advantage of 64bit over 32 bit with ubuntu?
[18:38] <daftykins> if you read it says xeon *or* 4th gen, i.e. Haswell
[18:38] <teward> k1l_: any idea where that is
[18:38] <genii> teward: It depends if it's a Dell and using the Constant Naming Scheme or if the interfaces are actually named things like eth0 eth1 and so on
[18:38] <k1l_> teward: see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/217635/how-to-rename-an-ethernet-interface
[18:39] <brycetd19m> No additional drivers available
[18:39] <noah123> I have 3 partitions (Windows), and I created a logical partition of the unallocated 80 GB, and now I have 13 GB left but it's "unuseable". Why?
[18:40] <k1l_> brycetd19m: what gives you "uname -a"?
[18:40] <daftykins> brycetd19m: two choices then, 1) download nvidia driver from their website and install (not the best idea) or 2) add the xorg-edgers PPA (google will find it and show you how to add it) then install nvidia-346 with "sudo apt-get install nvidia-346"
[18:40] <k1l_> noah123: because you can only go for 4 primary partitions. like i said before
[18:40] <noah123> k1l_: I have 3 primary partitions and one logical
[18:41] <noah123> can't create any more partitions
[18:41] <wiredfool> so, my keyboard layout lasted 2 hours of active use this time till caps lock returned and killed my extra ctrl key
[18:41] <noah123> As I said ;)
[18:41] <daftykins> noah123: nah sounds like you made a fourth primary instead of an extended
[18:41] <k1l_> noah123: make a "extended" partition instead of the "primary" logical one. than put the new ubuntu partitions into that extended
[18:41] <k1l_> noah123: doing the same misstake over and over again is not going to solve that issue :)
[18:41] <hoxer> Hi guys. Does Ubuntu Phone have its on chan or is this the place to ask ?
[18:42] <popey> hoxer: #ubuntu-touch
[18:42] <teward> k1l_: thanks
[18:42] <teward> genii: it's a VMware VM
[18:42] <noah123> How?
[18:42] <noah123> k1l_:
[18:42] <k1l_> noah123: here is more detail on that if you dont trust me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Extended_partition
[18:43] <noah123> I trust you but I don't know how
[18:43] <noah123> to create one
[18:44] <teward> k1l_: i also found this and this was a little more helpful, actually had to *add* the udev rule... http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-rename-ethernet-devices-named-using-udev/
[18:44] <teward> solved now though :
[18:44] <teward> :) &
[18:44] <teward> blah
[18:44] <brycetd19m> Okay so I got back 3.16.0-30-generic #40-14.04.1-ubuntu smp thu Jan 15 17:34:14 utc 2015 x86_64 x86_64 gnu/linux
[18:45] <noah123> k1l_
[18:46] <k1l_> noah123: did you boot the ubuntu live system already?
[18:46] <teward> next question, on a VM, the login screen is at 800x600, but the actual resolution after login is larger - how do i set login screen resolution on a 12.04 VM to use the larger resolution
[18:46] <noah123> k1l_:  yes
[18:46] <daftykins> brycetd19m: yeah so run: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-346 nvidia-settings" then reboot
[18:47] <k1l_> noah123: open up "gparted"
[18:47] <genii> daftykins: Will it pull in dkms and linux-headers, etc?
[18:47] <daftykins> genii: all i know is it works just dandy :)
[18:48] <genii> Hm
[18:56] <brycetd19m> Well all seams to be working now.......
[18:56] <daftykins> don't act so surprised :D
[18:57] <daftykins> brycetd19m: correct resolution on both displays?
[18:57] <noah123> k1l_: will the GParted setup be stored on the USB?
[18:57] <k1l_> noah123: no
[18:57] <noah123> Ok k1l_
[18:57] <noah123> Remember I will use dual boot
[18:57] <brycetd19m> Well the 42 inch is still on 1024x768 but apart from that it all looks good
[18:58] <daftykins> brycetd19m: try opening a terminal and running "xrandr | pastebinit"
[18:58] <k1l_> noah123: you cant make the setup running windows. so please come back when you booted the usb live version.
[18:59] <noah123> I have done that k1l_
[18:59] <noah123> I will install GParted
[18:59] <k1l_> so open gparted
[18:59] <noah123> Why does it says Language supportis incomplete for English?
[18:59] <k1l_> its already included. no need to install
[18:59] <brycetd19m> Paste.ubuntu.com/10679907/
[19:00] <noah123> ok opened it
[19:01] <k1l_> noah123: now you can make a 4th partition as extended one. then put the new partitions you want into that extended one
[19:01] <noah123> how?
[19:01] <daftykins> brycetd19m: yep it's not readong your TV properly, try only plugging in the HDMI after boot
[19:01] <daftykins> *reading
[19:01] <noah123> from the 80 GB unallocated space?
[19:01] <noah123> k1l_
[19:01] <k1l_> noah123: the same way you would do that on a windows machine with a windows program. its quite selfexplaining
[19:01] <noah123> from the 80 GB unallocated space?
[19:02] <noah123> I'm not familiar with disk manangement
[19:02] <k1l_> noah123: i dont know what partitions and what hdd you got there. you said you got 3 partitions and some free space. so use that free space
[19:02] <brycetd19m> Just did that same issue.....
[19:02] <noah123> I am going to install kubuntu on this free space
[19:02] <noah123> ok
[19:02] <k1l_> brycetd19m: some adapters involved?
[19:02] <noah123> So what should I type in all fields?
[19:03] <daftykins> brycetd19m: oh well, bit more effort needed to get the TV going maybe. you can also try cold booting with only the HDMI connected, DVI out - and see if it gets it wrong then too
[19:03] <teward> is there any way to route one of my applications through the VPN set up in network manager but the rest go through the standard network connection
[19:03] <teward> (this is on 14.04)
[19:03] <brycetd19m> Not at all k1l_ it's hdmi to hdmi
[19:04] <k1l_> noah123: make one 15GB ext4 for "/", then one partition "swap" with filesystem swap the same size as your ram, then the rest ext4 for "/home"
[19:04] <noah123> Here in GParted?
[19:04] <noah123> k1l_
[19:04] <k1l_> yes
[19:05] <noah123> Ehm
[19:05] <noah123> Step-for-step how?
[19:05] <k1l_> noah123: come on, i already said the stepsö
[19:05] <k1l_> -ö
[19:05] <daftykins> noah123: it's a GUI program, click around and learn
[19:06] <brycetd19m> Okay cold booting does nothing at all. Removed the DVI  and booted with hdmi also just tried booting then plugging in the TV.
[19:06] <k1l_> noah123: make extended partition. then make 3 new partitions inside that extended like i just said.
[19:06] <daftykins> brycetd19m: i think you misread my intention for cold boot :)
[19:06] <noah123> There's a lot of fieldas
[19:06] <noah123> And I'm a newbie to this
[19:06] <k1l_> noah123: if you can click in a windows partition program you will get that running too :)
[19:06] <daftykins> ^ yep run 'diskmgmt.msc' in Windows
[19:07] <noah123> Oh no ... This happened again!
[19:07] <brycetd19m> I unplugged all but the hdmi. And removed all connected cables and booted then connected the hdmi only nether did anything noticeable
[19:07] <noah123> The screen turns black and I can't do anything (I see it, but VERY dark)
[19:07] <daftykins> brycetd19m: latest firmware on the TV?
[19:07] <brycetd19m> Yep.
[19:07] <daftykins> are you sure? :)
[19:08] <brycetd19m> Very sure.
[19:08] <noah123> and I can't use hardware buttons (sound key, brightness keys, turn off key etc.)
[19:08] <daftykins> ok, well obviously some manual setup required there
[19:08] <brycetd19m> From memory it was using the 16:10 settings in windows
[19:09] <noah123> ;(
[19:09] <noah123> Why does this happens?
[19:10] <k1l_> noah123: what did you do?
[19:10] <noah123> nothing
[19:10] <noah123> and it's not the first time
[19:10] <brycetd19m> Okay well its showing as a "SAMSUNG PDP" witch doesn't really help the issue
[19:11] <k1l_> is the program hanging (its greyed out) or is the system hanging? or is it just turned down the brightness?
[19:11] <noah123> it's prefectly fine, it's just the brightness
[19:11] <daftykins> brycetd19m: plasma display panel? oh ghetto :>
[19:12] <noah123> I have no idea why...
[19:12] <noah123> k1l_: how do I resolve this ?
[19:13] <k1l_> noah123: look at system settings if you can disable the brightness shutdown.
[19:13] <k1l_> if nothing helps make a reboot
[19:13]  * k1l_ needs to go afk now
[19:14] <noah123> k1l_: where in system settings?
[19:14] <brycetd19m> Lol daftykins it supports up to 1080P normally without issues. Just always used the 16:10 range
[19:14] <daftykins> brycetd19m: yes i know, it's a detection issue.
[19:14] <daftykins> 1080p is not 16:10
[19:21] <noah123> k1l_: Shall I just leave it as it is when I have selected extended?
[19:21] <noah123> Click OK? And leave everything default
[19:22] <daftykins> noah123: just get it done :P
[19:22] <noah123> Yeah but shall I leave it as it is?
[19:22] <noah123> When I selected Extended
[19:22] <noah123> And Click OK?
[19:22] <EriC^^> noah123, what are you talking about?
[19:23] <noah123> Create an extended partition using gparted
[19:23] <daftykins> EriC^^: noah123 here is refusing to learn how to perform tasks with gparted manually - and wants babysitting
[19:23] <lompy> test
[19:23] <EriC^^> daftykins, i see :D
[19:23] <daftykins> !paste | noah123 upload screenshots if you want input, but this is really quite easy
[19:24] <noah123> But just a quick question: if I want to install UBUNTU when I create the extended partition should I leave it as it is when I have selected 'extended'?
[19:25] <daftykins> noah123: your question doesn't make much sense
[19:25] <noah123> ;(
[19:25] <noah123> Where can I ask gparted questions?
[19:26] <BnotD> hi
[19:26] <EriC^^> noah123, use sudo cfdisk like a normal person
[19:26] <EriC^^> lol
[19:26] <noah123> cfdisk?
[19:26] <noah123> Ok...
[19:26] <EriC^^> seriously though, use that, we can probably answer your questions
[19:27] <noah123> Like a normal person? There you can't create EXTENDED partitions
[19:27] <BnotD> HI all I typed kill -9 -1 in ubuntu terminal and now my laptop can't freezed
[19:27] <EriC^^> i was j/k and yes you can
[19:27] <noah123> Nope ...
[19:27] <noah123> I don't see this option :)
[19:28] <daftykins> EriC^^: it's a trap designed to have you hand-hold
[19:28] <EriC^^> daftykins, hehe
[19:29] <noah123> How do I create an extended partition there, EriC^^ `
[19:30] <EriC^^> noah123, press new
[19:30] <kevinfish> How can I get a list of all installed packages so after I rebuild my system I can reinstall all of them automatically?
[19:30] <noah123> and...?
[19:30] <noah123> you mean on the 80 gb unallocated space?
[19:30] <EriC^^> kevinfish, dpkg --get-selections > /path/to/packageslist
[19:30] <daftykins> kevinfish: read the "man" page of dpkg and look into --get-selections
[19:31] <EriC^^> noah123, yes
[19:31] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Sorry, but I just actually started testing the chroot and it works except for connecting to the internet. Ping does not even work.
[19:31] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, you need to copy over your /etc/resolv.conf
[19:31] <noah123> EriC^^: there's no extended option
[19:31] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: thx
[19:32] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, exit the chroot, ( type exit ) then cp /etc/resolv.conf /media...../etc/resolv.conf
[19:32] <noah123> just logical
[19:32] <noahmg123_> ok
[19:32] <EriC^^> noah123, yes, cfdisk does it for you
[19:32] <EriC^^> noahmg123_, then chroot back in
[19:32] <krabador> i create a .desktop in /usr/share/applications , on 14.04, but it don't appear in dash
[19:32] <krabador> how can i do a refresh of the dash content?
[19:32] <krabador> is tracker?
[19:32] <noah123> EriC^^: How?? I have clicked "new" :D
[19:32] <EriC^^> krabador, what was the name of the .desktop entry ( not the file.desktop )
[19:33] <EriC^^> noah123, you click new, press enter for logical and continue
[19:33] <krabador> EriC^^, version, name , comment ?
[19:34] <EriC^^> krabador, Name=
[19:34] <noah123> but it does not creates an extended, EriC^^
[19:34] <EriC^^> noah123, try creating 5 partitions
[19:34] <noahmg123_> EriC^^: Thank you.
[19:34] <noah123> EriC^^: ?
[19:34] <krabador> EriC^^, Comsol Multiphysics
[19:34] <krabador> EriC^^, 2 words
[19:35] <EriC^^> krabador, ok, if you type Comsol in the dash doesn't it appear?
[19:35] <krabador> EriC^^, not...
[19:36] <EriC^^> krabador, are you sure the file is there? ls -l /usr/share/applications/file.desktop
[19:36] <noah123> EriC^^: why 5?
[19:36] <EriC^^> noah123, cause you can only have 4 primary ones
[19:36] <noah123> Yes, that's why I want to create an extended where I create Ubuntu partitions
[19:36] <krabador> EriC^^, yes, i created it with sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/comsol.desktop
[19:36] <EriC^^> noah123, i meant for you to try it for your self
[19:37] <krabador> EriC^^, sudo chmod +x /usr/share/applications/comsol.desktop
[19:37] <EriC^^> krabador, paste the ls -l output here please
[19:38] <noah123> EriC^^: What do you mean? I want to create an extended partition where I will have my Kubuntu partitions
[19:38] <EriC^^> noah123, ok, create the partitions you want, when cfdisk says logical it means it's an extended logical partition
[19:39] <noah123> ok, and how do I add the partitions to the extended?
[19:40] <EriC^^> noah123, it creates it and adds it
[19:40] <noah123> To?
[19:40] <EriC^^> it.
[19:41] <daftykins> i guess we take for granted our DOS era learning of all this fun
[19:41] <daftykins> and now it's almost gone what with GPT
[19:42] <Tachyon`> hello, I have installed the grub bootsector to the superblock of the root partition (for reasons I need not go into), how do I prevent grub stomping all over the MBR whenever the kernel or w/e is upgraded?
[19:42] <noah123> Well - EriC^^ , how do I create the main extended partition where I will add partitions on?
[19:43] <EriC^^> noah123, cfdisk is smart enough to create it for you, and when you make new partitions it just adds them
[19:43] <noah123> If I don't want it to add it on just THIS extended partition`
[19:43] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[19:44] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[19:44] <noah123> I mean like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition
[19:45] <AppleCIDR> http://www.ebay.com/itm/301433997715?rmvSB=true
[19:47] <sysop-rick> Hi, i know that this isn't a specific ubuntu question but i want to know if there is someone that knows if its possible to completely replace pluma (default text editor in mint 17 qiana) with gedit?
[19:47] <sysop-rick> if i run sudo apt-get --purge remove pluma, it wants to remove the following packages. name depends on your touchpad model, it may be something like
[19:48] <sysop-rick>   mint-meta-mate* pluma*
[19:48] <teward> sysop-rick: mint is offtopic here
[19:48] <genii> !mint | sysop-rick
[19:48] <teward> and genii ninja'd me to that xD
[19:48]  * genii slides teward a consolation coffee
[19:48] <sysop-rick> genii: ok thanks.
[19:49] <genii> sysop-rick: np
[19:49] <EriC^^> noah123, click new, make a primary partition if you want
[19:49] <EriC^^> noah123, then with the remaining free space make an extended one, you will get an arrow below it saying free space, make as many partitions as you'd like
[19:50] <EriC^^> noah123, why do you need more than 4 though?
[19:50] <noah123> I mean like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition
[19:51] <teward> genii: $5 would be better, but meh
[19:51] <teward> anyways, i think my q got lost, so...
[19:52] <teward> is there any way to route only one of my applications through the VPN set up in network manager but the rest go through the standard network connection
[19:52] <EriC^^> noah123, what are you trying to do over all?
[19:52] <noah123> I have 4 primary partitions and I want to install Kubuntu
[19:53] <EriC^^> noah123, ok, great
[19:53] <noah123> so EriC^^ what shall I do? I didn't understand your reply
[19:53] <EriC^^> noah123, so you need to delete one primary to make the extended
[19:54] <noah123> yea that's done
[19:54] <EriC^^> did you backup the data etc. ok.
[19:54] <EriC^^> so you have 3 primaries right now?
[19:55] <noah123> yes
[19:56] <EriC^^> ok
[19:56] <noah123> so what shall I do?
[19:56] <EriC^^> boot the live usb
[19:57] <EriC^^> and partition from the installer
[19:57] <geemili> How do I fix a corrupted partition?
[19:57] <noah123> As said I need an extended?
[19:58] <EriC^^> noah123, in the installer, when you choose Something else, when it asks where it install, you can partition and make extended partitions
[19:58] <rainbowwarrior> hello I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and everything seems to be running slow and I am on an Acer Aspire V5-571P laptop with 8GB Memory and 1TB HD and generic intel gfx card, I was wondering if anyone can give me name of that software that tells you what channel your router and other networks are on please, I remember it starts with an L ?
[19:58] <genii> geemili: How is it corrupted?
[19:58] <noah123> no not extended
[19:58] <EriC^^> you'll have to go there anyways, and set the mountpoints and filesystems and what not
[19:58] <noah123> just logical
[19:58] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: kismet also does this
[19:59] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, Ok Thank You but I am more use to using the one that starts with an L , Lussid or something
[19:59] <EriC^^> noah123, please read this http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/partitions.html
[19:59] <teward> so, in my VMs, i have an Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop and an Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop.  12.04 runs smoothly, but 14.04 runs slow as sin.  Any way to figure out why?
[19:59] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: good luck then :)
[20:00] <rainbowwarrior> ty daftykins
[20:00] <noah123> EriC^^: first use cfdisc and then add it using installer?
[20:01] <genii> geemili: ( Because what tactics to try vary upon what the problem is. If some part just got overwritten, or if it's physically failing, or some other problem out of many possible ones)
[20:01] <EriC^^> noah123, no, read that page it will make things very clear for you
[20:01] <geemili> @genii: the partition was on a laptop where the hard drive was making sounds. I am looking into getting a new hard drive, but I want to retrieve some data from it.
[20:01] <EriC^^> noah123, then use the installer to partition, forget cfdisk
[20:02] <geemili> @genii: It was a physical failure
[20:02] <daftykins> geemili: if you really care about said data, trying yourself would be a very bad idea
[20:02] <genii> geemili: So in this case, your best bet is to find another hard drive which is larger than the one which is failing, attach it by way of either usb enclosure or similar, then use ddrescue to pull off what you can to the good drive
[20:03] <geemili> daftykins: It's not essential that I get it back
[20:04] <genii> geemili: ddrescue is similar to dd but will keep copying even after it hits unreadable areas. so then you do the ddrescue to an image file on the external drive, then later from an intact linux system mount the image file and get what you can from it.
[20:04] <genii> work, afk
[20:04] <geemili> genii: Okay. I already imaged the drive.
[20:05] <geemili> Right now I'm trying to get files from the hard drive.
[20:06] <geemili> Although it might be smarter to pull them from the .iso
[20:06] <daftykins> geemili: how's the SMART data? if the reallocated sectors are incrementing then you don't really want to be working on the disk, nah
[20:09] <genii> geemili: Yes, the idea is to make an image as soon as possible then from there put the original aside so no new damage happens and work exclusively on the image file instead
[20:10] <geemili> genii: Okay
[20:11] <EriC^^> geemili, once you do that, install photorec
[20:12] <mutilator> hey all, anyone know what causes this?
[20:12] <mutilator> http://i.imgur.com/6uZeMpK.png
[20:12] <EriC^^> or other datarecovery software
[20:12] <mutilator> still waiting for it to boot...
[20:12] <geemili> genii: Does it come with TestDisk?
[20:13] <genii> geemili: What, ddrescue?
[20:14] <geemili> genii: photorec
[20:14] <EriC^^> geemili, photorec is included in testdisk
[20:14] <EriC^^> geemili, you can set which file headers to look for and it will search for them
[20:15] <genii> geemili: No, photorec is an app to try and recover lost files. Short for photo recovery, but not just for photos
[20:17] <mutilator> so all 2000 of you... no ideas?
[20:18] <genii> mutilator: All the bug reports which contain errors of this nature I have so far investigated all ended up to be hardware problems
[20:18] <mutilator> well..
[20:18] <mutilator> it's a VM
[20:18] <genii> ( so in 8 reports so far )
[20:18] <mutilator> so i'm not sure what hardware might be involved..
[20:18] <loktar> I hear there is some idlers in here
[20:19] <mutilator> it installed fine and booted after the install fine
[20:19] <CptRageToaster> there are
[20:19] <mutilator> then i ran updates and rebooted
[20:20] <EriC^^> mutilator, it looked like it hanged on the mouse, i dunno
[20:21] <EriC^^> try to unplug it maybe and let it boot
[20:21] <mutilator> there is no mouse to unplug
[20:22] <EriC^^> try booting a live usb
[20:22] <mutilator> lets see if i can disable all emulated USB stuff
[20:23] <CptRageToaster> mutilator: What VM client are you using?
[20:23] <mutilator> xenserver
[20:24] <CptRageToaster> mutilator: Bother andyhhp over in #XenServer
[20:24] <CptRageToaster> they might be sleeping...
[20:25] <mutilator> no one is ever alive there heh
[20:25] <CptRageToaster> well
[20:25] <CptRageToaster> go there
[20:25] <mutilator> disabling usb didnt seem to make a difference
[20:25] <CptRageToaster> because you have a Xenserver issue
[20:25] <mutilator> i have an ubuntu issue
[20:26] <mutilator> every other linux VM works fine
[20:26] <mutilator> even ubuntu 12
[20:27] <CptRageToaster> you complain about not getting help in the midst of 1900 users but this channel is not dedicated to XenServer
[20:27] <Bray9082_> How would i remove text in a file from the terminal
[20:27] <Bray9082_> What I actually wanna do is find every instance of \ and remove it
[20:27] <CptRageToaster> you can't expect us to know about your specific issue with XenServer
[20:27] <mutilator> but it is dedicated to ubuntu
[20:27] <mutilator> and ubuntu 14.04 is what isnt booting
[20:27] <mutilator> xenserver is running fine
[20:27] <mutilator> and every other guest runs fine
[20:27] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: ever heard of a tool named sed?
[20:28] <CptRageToaster> mutilator: It's a XenServer issue...
[20:28] <mutilator> oh ok
[20:28] <CptRageToaster> might be related to the kernel your trying to run...
[20:28] <CptRageToaster> it might be a configuration issue
[20:28] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: I have herd of it never used it
[20:28] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: It's a really OLD tool, that can edit files
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> It's got some cool features, if you want to remove instances of \
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> you can tell it to find all isntances of \, and replace it with
[20:30] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: Would it also just remove the character
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> you can choose to replace the character with something if you want
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> the way it works, is you open sed, and give it a command
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> we'll use the s command
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> to find/replace
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> s/old/new/
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> so, to find all of the \ characters
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> we need to escape them
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> so our old=\\
[20:32] <Bray9082_> So it has to replace it with another character?
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> our new... is empty
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> so we say
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> s/\\//
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> which replaces all \\ with
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> if you wanted to replace all \ with a space
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> s/\\/ /
[20:32] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: I don't wanna replace them I want to remove them
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> see how that works?
[20:33] <tita> ola
[20:33] <teward> is it sane/safe to use rsync to copy files from one drive to another (NOT cloning ISOs and such and writing, actually copying files and directories)
[20:33] <perla> hi who is one
[20:33] <tita> boa noite
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: So, now that we know how the s command works
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: We need to tell sed to do this as many times as it can
[20:33] <perla> who is on chat with me
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: on each line, as many times per line
[20:33] <perla> who is se
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: s/\\//gm
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> g = global, m = multiline
[20:34] <perla> oh thanks
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: so, now, all thats left is to tell open sed on your file, and run that command
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: sed -i 's/\\//gm' FILE_NAME
[20:35] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: do you realize that I Don't want to replace the character with anything just delete it
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> exactly
[20:35] <Bray9082_> Alright
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> I can read :)
[20:35] <Bray9082_> Apperently I can't :P
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> If you were reading, you'll see that I cover the case where we delete the slash
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> s/\\//
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> and the case where we replace the slash with a space
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> s/\\/ /
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> if you wanted to replace each slash with the word potato, youd say
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> s/\\/potato/
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> so you just leave it empty to delete the slashes
[20:36] <geemili> genii: thanks for the help! Photo rec is now in the process of recovering my files.
[20:36] <heath_> If I wanted to have a distro of Ubuntu that installed specific packages when installing the OS what would be the best way to do this?
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> heath_: docker
[20:37] <genii> geemili: Cool.
[20:37] <linuxthefish> hi, what sources list to use for ubuntu 13.10 raring ?
[20:37] <OerHeks> !raring
[20:38] <teward> linuxthefish: none - 13.04 went End of Life in January 2014 - you should upgrade to a supported release
[20:38] <linuxthefish> oh
[20:38] <CptRageToaster> linuxthefish: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:38] <OerHeks> or saucy 13.10 ?
[20:38] <OerHeks> also EOL
[20:39] <CptRageToaster> hmm... that's not 13.10... nvm
[20:39] <linuxthefish> can i use do-release-upgrade for the latest?
[20:39] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | linuxthefish
[20:39] <heath_> CptRageToaster, and this would work for spinning up desktop instances for developers to use?
[20:40] <CptRageToaster> heath_: That's primarily what it's for
[20:40] <CptRageToaster> industrial setups
[20:40] <CptRageToaster> s/industrial/enterprise
[20:40] <heath_> Thanks.
[20:40] <maelcum> hello. i have permission issues with sound and graphics on vivid / systemd. alsamixer (and audio players) don't have permission to anything in /dev/snd/, and  glxinfo (and other opengl applications) don't have permission to anything in /dev/dri/.
[20:40] <maelcum> i am using a self compiled xorg stack and no pulseaudio
[20:40] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1
[20:40] <EriC^^> maelcum, ^
[20:40] <maelcum> alright, thanks
[20:42] <aftereyo_> so so so
[20:42] <aftereyo_> who keeps on CVing my Aksubuntu questions
[20:42] <IdleOne> try asking askubuntu forum
[20:43] <IdleOne> This channel has nothing to do with that
[20:43] <aftereyo_> Oh
[20:43] <aftereyo_> Is it true that you can jus tupgrade throuigh all version of UBuntu
[20:44] <quants> Hi all,  I want to put lubuntu onto a netbook. it currently has windows 7 starter but i want to get rid of that totally.
[20:44] <CptRageToaster> not easily from the desktop... no...
[20:44] <aftereyo_> I've seens some posts on reddit (ikr) that say that the 6month release cycles doesn't matte rbecuase you can upgrade wihtout installing
[20:44] <aftereyo_> *re-installing the OS
[20:44] <CptRageToaster> quants: You can google that
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> !google | CptRageToaster
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> aftereyo_: upgrades have been fine for me.
[20:45] <aftereyo_> quants: it's easy boot into the live cd and chose erase disk and install bla bla
[20:45] <aftereyo_> SchrodingersScat: so what was the last version of UBuntu you had to install?
[20:45] <EriC^^> quants, boot the live usb, choose erase disk and install lubuntu
[20:45] <k1l_> aftereyo_: what ubuntu are you on?
[20:46] <teward> is it harmful to erase data from /tmp
[20:46] <SchrodingersScat> aftereyo_: 14.10, on a vm
[20:46] <aftereyo_> Kubuntu 15.04
[20:46] <teward> !15.04 | aftereyo_
[20:46] <CptRageToaster> SchrodingersScat quants: my apologies
[20:46] <aftereyo_> teward: nope
[20:46] <k1l_> aftereyo_: you can upgrade the ubuntu versions. but you need to make every step. just LTS to LTS is a fast path
[20:46] <quants> aftereyo_ i have downloaded the file from the lubuntu site, how do i make it work as a boot disk?
[20:46] <k1l_> aftereyo_: well, alpha/beta support is in #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <aftereyo_> quants: what os are you on?
[20:47] <aftereyo_> I meant 13.40
[20:47] <aftereyo_> 14.04
[20:47] <k1l_> teward: depends on the data. tmp is erased after every reboot anyway. but some programs may be struggeling if you remove their stuff while the want to have it sit in tmp :)
[20:47] <quants> aftereyo_ its currently running windows 7 starter 32 bit OS
[20:48] <bprompt> quants:    the .iso?
[20:48] <k1l_> quants: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:48] <teward> k1l_: mmm, good point
[20:48] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: Thanks for the info but since I am not actually using ubuntu I think this is as far as we can go
[20:48] <quants> k1l_ thanks
[20:48] <aftereyo_> quants: do that link ^^
[20:49] <k1l_> aftereyo_: so what version do you want to upgrade from that 14.04?
[20:49] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: if you're running some form of linux, you have sed
[20:49] <aftereyo_> k1l_: I mean in general
[20:49] <aftereyo_> can I upgrade from here on out to 20.04?
[20:49] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: I am actually running OSX so...
[20:49] <aftereyo_> or will I have to reinstall every 6 months
[20:49] <k1l_> aftereyo_: yes.
[20:49] <CptRageToaster> then your sed will be slightly different
[20:50] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: But you will still have it
[20:50] <k1l_> aftereyo_: you can use the lts upgrade path which is 14.04 -> 16.04 ->18.04 ->20.04
[20:50] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: Yes that's what I was saying
[20:50] <bprompt> Bray9082_:     can't just do a search/replace  on an editor ?
[20:50] <aftereyo_> k1l_: what if I want standard?
[20:50] <aftereyo_> LTS is always a step behinf
[20:50] <Bray9082_> bprompt: I want to remove not replace
[20:50] <k1l_> aftereyo_: but if you would upgrade to 14.10 you will need to 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04 and can then go the LTS path again
[20:51] <quants> k1l_ sorry im using ubuntu myself, i want to change my friends laptop to lubuntu
[20:51] <bprompt> Bray9082_:      replace with "blank", same as removal, removal procedure does in a logical sense, the same thing
[20:51] <k1l_> quants: it doesnt matter if the .iso is ubuntu or Lubuntu
[20:51] <maibanex324234> Having a frustrating problem. HDMI sound works in Unity/Gnome desktops, but in i3wm Alsamixer lists my HDMI card as S/PDIF and 00 with no sliding bar. Can two audio devices have the same number and not cause problems? I have two named 3.
[20:51] <CptRageToaster> Bray9082_: To be completely honest.... How am I supposed to know you were running MaxOSX when you asked a question in Ubuntu?
[20:51] <k1l_> quants: that works for all *ubuntu version
[20:52] <Bray9082_> bprompt: Wouldn't that replace it with a space
[20:52] <quants> k1l thank you
[20:52] <teward> k1l_: what about those of us who don't reboot their laptops frequently, can /tmp eat up all the disk space?
[20:52] <bprompt> Bray9082_:    if you use a space as the replacement string, yes, if you leave it blank, it simply will get rid of it
[20:52] <bprompt> Bray9082_:     blank  ![20:52] <k1l_> teward: erm, i think yes.
[20:53] <k1l_> teward: but i am not aware of it as a general issue.
[20:53] <Bray9082_> bprompt: Thanks that actually worked pretty well
[20:54] <Bray9082_> CptRageToaster: Thanks for your help as well
[20:55] <CptRageToaster> ~burniso | quants
[20:55] <CptRageToaster> !burniso | quants
[20:55] <bprompt> np
[20:55] <maibanex324234> Anyone else have audio issues using i3wm in ubuntu?
[20:56] <Ullarah> Using i3wm in xubuntu with no issues :)
[20:57] <maibanex324234> HDMI graphics/audio?
[20:57] <maibanex324234> I don't like installing an OS to be the fix, but after all my fiddling I feel dirty if I don't reinstall. Lol.
[20:57] <mmercer> lo all;  having issues with updates, just curious if anyone has noticed the same problem;  working with an ubuntu-server 14.04.2 x64 cd, minimal install (openssh server),  doing a dist-upgrade is failing on Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades_0.82.1ubuntu2.1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[20:59] <sak> I am having issues installing Lubuntu 32bit 15.04 on my HP laptop. The issue might be an xserver issue. I learned this version of the xserver does not support my GPU. This this the bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1432843
[20:59] <daftykins> sak: 15.04 isn't out yet, so discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[21:02] <maibanex324234> Can two audio drives have the same hardware device number without causing issues?
[21:03] <sorcerer1> people from germany here?
[21:03] <maibanex324234> example: HDMI, device 3: HDMI 0 ------ HDA Intel, device 3: ALC892 Digital
[21:03] <k1l_> sorcerer1: der deutsche kanal ist #ubuntu-de
[21:03] <sorcerer1> danke dir @k1l_
[21:10] <doubleToast> Hi
[21:10] <Cyborgdx> hi
[21:18] <doubleToast> the 14.10 server installer keeps throwing me to the installer main menu after setting up partitions and loading some things
[21:18] <chotaz> Good evening folks, I was wondering if there's a way to 'transform' my standar ubuntu 14.10 installation in ubuntuMATE 14.10 ?
[21:18] <doubleToast> without any error popup
[21:18] <daftykins> doubleToast: unwise to use non-LTS server
[21:19] <doubleToast> I chose it for qemu+kvm
[21:19] <chotaz> I've been using ubuntuMATE @ work and I'm really liking it's environment, but I was wondering if I could accomplish such without a fresh install
[21:19] <daftykins> chotaz: there's probably a meta package for MATE desktop, just install, log out - change session on the login screen and log in
[21:20] <chotaz> daftykins: i could then remove unity without any drawbacks?
[21:20] <daftykins> chotaz: i wouldn't bother unless you're really desperate for disk space
[21:23] <EriC^^> !info ubuntu-mate-desktop
[21:23] <TheBigDeal> is there an arabic clone of #ubuntu?
[21:24] <EriC^^> chotaz: search for mate-desktop, apt-cache search mate-desktop , and see if anything shows up
[21:24] <doubleToast> how can I find out what's wrong with the installer if it doesn't throw an error? dmesg doesnt show anything either
[21:25] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[21:25] <doubleToast> already verified
[21:26] <doubleToast> and I used the image successfully before on another PC
[21:26] <tallymarkd> i need help. so im on the terminal and installing libpcap-dev and i get an error of "unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) is another process using it?
[21:27] <geemili> Any suggestions on sorting files recovered using photo rec?
[21:27] <tallymarkd> bump
[21:27] <Ben64> tallymarkd: please don't
[21:28] <tallymarkd> wtf is wrong with you people.
[21:28] <gr33n7007h> !language
[21:28] <Ben64> you asked less than a minute ago, no need to "bump" ....  also this is IRC not a forum, "bump" has no effect
[21:28] <tallymarkd> i dont care. someone else butted in. and its funny. so relax
[21:29] <tallymarkd> more like ubuntu nazi camp
[21:29] <Ben64> it's not funny, nobody butted in, you're just adding meaningless lines to the channel
[21:29] <guntbert> tallymarkd: stop it please
[21:29] <k1l_> tallymarkd: stop that
[21:29] <tallymarkd> its true
[21:29] <tallymarkd> free speech, first amendment. hear of it?
[21:29] <cpt_yossarian> this is a private channel
[21:30] <trijntje> right to speak, not right to speak in our room ;)
[21:31] <cpt_yossarian> tallymarkd: you won't be able to respond to this, but your problem is that another program has a lock on the dpkg database that apt-get needs to use. you need to wait for that process to finish, or kill it
[21:33] <doubleToast> just out of curiosity - is it realistic that someone will answer to a question after more than 30 minutes or should I consider no answer meaning that noone who read it can help?
[21:34] <doubleToast> just so I know if I should keep lurking :)
[21:34] <guntbert> doubleToast: its fine if you repeat your question after 10 minutes or so
[21:35] <guntbert> doubleToast: people are always joining/leaving/coming back to their computer...
[21:37] <doubleToast> ok
[21:49] <pl1x> hi anyone knows what i changed that videos in fullscreen (on youtube) getting played only on my 2nd screen?
[21:52] <cpt_yossarian> maybe check your display settings
[21:52] <pl1x> cpt_yossarian: i did, they're right
[21:52] <cpt_yossarian> see if you're second screen has been set to primary. just a guess
[21:52] <cpt_yossarian> oh
[21:54] <pl1x> cpt_yossarian: this is actually annoying because my main screen is 31" and notebook screen is 15,4"
[21:56] <cpt_yossarian> that sucks. is it only a youtube problem, or a problem with all videos in fullscreen mode?
[21:56] <pl1x> all videos
[21:56] <pl1x> even videos in my dropbox
[21:56] <pl1x> but downloaded videos work
[21:56] <cpt_yossarian> beats me :\
[21:58] <joshh20> Is there a specific reason that the Ubuntu "linux-sources" package gives kernel 3.16 and not a newer source?
[21:58] <xangua> !latest | joshh20
[21:59] <teward> !info linux-sources utopic
[21:59] <teward> blah
[21:59] <teward> whatever
[21:59] <joshh20> Haha alright
[21:59] <joshh20> I thought 3.16 was from like August though?
[22:00] <teward> joshh20: they don't bump stable already-released versions of Ubuntu to the higher kernels - for the LTSes I think there may be backports sometimes, but not frequently
[22:00] <xangua> yes, latest ubuntu was released in august
[22:00] <teward> and that
[22:00] <joshh20> Ah I see
[22:00] <teward> xangua: i thought that was just kernel freeze? (14.10 was released October no?)
[22:01] <Artemis3> thats what the numbers mean teward
[22:01] <teward> Artemis3: i know that - i'm asking xangua to clarify 'was released'  :P
[22:02] <Alissa> !ubuntu
[22:02] <Alissa> wrong channel, whups.
[22:02] <locsmif> How could this be the wrong channel for that
[22:02] <locsmif> A bit redundant, maybe
[22:02] <Desez2tPunk> Trying to install Steam on Ubuntu 14.04, error output http://pastebin.com/EVn9HGdb
[22:03] <Desez2tPunk> Any ideas?
[22:03] <ikonia> Desez2tPunk: you have dependency conflicts
[22:03] <ikonia> probably coming from external repos
[22:03] <eugecm1> hello! I'm having an issue with an ACPI IRQ that keeps firing and takes 100% of one of my cpus. I know this because /proc/interrupts shows that IRQ9 (acpi) has a HUGE count and I remember a couple of years ago I was able to mask the interrupt and that fixed it, but I recently formatted the hard drive and forgot how I did it. Any thoughts?
[22:03] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: using apt-get or aptitude?
[22:04] <eugecm1> I also tried setting /proc/irq/X/smp_affinity to 0 but that's not allowed :(
[22:04] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: also, try again after running apt-get update
[22:04] <Alissa> locsmif: #ubuntu is right above #weechat
[22:04] <Alissa> and weebot has a !ubuntu to display the link to PPAs for the newest versions
[22:04] <w00tburger> so I am at a low run level right now- my gui isnt fireing up properly
[22:04] <Desez2tPunk> ikonia, no idea, I'm quite new to this Linux ordeal. locsmif will try apt-get update. I downloaded the package off Steams official site and installed it that way because the software center one won't install for me
[22:04] <w00tburger> no menu bar nor dock bar once I log in
[22:04] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: as the error message indicates, the package index may be out of sync due to an upgrade occurring between now and your last indexing
[22:05] <locsmif> Alissa: ah :)
[22:05] <w00tburger> its like the X didnt load or somthing. I attempted to reboot but no dics
[22:05] <w00tburger> dice
[22:05] <Alissa> So, sorry about that :P
[22:06] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: if apt-get fails, trying aptitude install steam may work. It has a more intelligent dependency/conflict resolver.
[22:06] <locsmif> Alissa: you should be! :P
[22:06]  * Alissa sits on locsmif and goes to do other things
[22:07]  * LeoDee backs away from keyboard
[22:07] <w00tburger> cmon no one can tell me how to reset my xorg?
[22:07] <locsmif> w00tburger: reset how?
[22:07] <locsmif> dpkg-reconfigure is one option
[22:09] <sta7ic> Hello, I am re-installing everything new on my laptop. I want two distro's to run. It seems when I install one on top of another, it doesnt want to add it automatically to grub and just thinks its the only distro. However, it keeps windows 7 without issue. whats the best way to install a new distro while getting grub to detect the existing one
[22:09] <w00tburger> I guess I am not really sure. my dock window didnt load- nor are my windows around anything I open
[22:09] <ikonia> sta7ic: you will have  problems maintaining 2 grub2's
[22:09] <w00tburger> I have no minimize or expand options
[22:10] <sta7ic> ikonia, what if i dont write the first install grub to anything and just have the second install write the grub
[22:11] <locsmif> sta7ic: install one "on top" of the other? I presume you do have a normal partition layout? Both are Grub 2?
[22:12] <ikonia> sta7ic: it won't work well, as it won't be able to update the kernel for the one without grub
[22:12] <ikonia> sta7ic: your only real option is chainloading, but thats getting more complex
[22:12] <sta7ic> locsmif, I have not done the installs yet, wanted to ask before i got started cuz first time i had an issue
[22:13] <sta7ic> wow so not really an option to *easily* dual boot linux distros?
[22:13] <locsmif> sta7ic: Grub 2 creates a list of operating systems to boot automatically, normally
[22:14] <ikonia> sta7ic: my personal opinion is that it's a failing of how distros are using grub2 these days, but yes, I see it as a failing compared to grub1
[22:14] <aki93> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER aki93 xsvjpjxifqid
[22:14] <locsmif> You could configure one Grub to reside in the boot sector rather than MBR and then chainload
[22:14] <sta7ic> i have 5 partitions on GPT, 512 for boot, 12 gb for OS, 512 for boot, 12 GB for OS, and I have 124 GB that I wanted to be able to mount between the two.
[22:14] <sta7ic> what if i use LILO
[22:14] <ikonia> thats dead
[22:14] <locsmif> Oh, GPT
[22:14] <sta7ic> i have the option for LILO
[22:15] <Desez2tPunk> locsmif, I'm using sudo aptitude now and it's telling me command not found :/
[22:15] <ipuAr> got a friend, who named his son lilo *g*
[22:15] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: apt-get install aptitude
[22:15] <ikonia> sta7ic: I think it has limitiations with gpt/efi - but I'm not %100 sure on that
[22:15] <EriC^^> ikonia: if grub isn't installed, the kernel won't update?
[22:15] <ikonia> Desez2tPunk: why are you using aptititude - that won't solve dependency conflicts
[22:15] <locsmif> hmm, I can't find aptitude either.
[22:15] <locsmif> never mind.
[22:15] <ikonia> EriC^^: pardon ?
[22:15] <locsmif> ikonia: in some cases, it will
[22:15] <EriC^^> ikonia: or you meant the grub on the other os won't know about it to put it in the menu?
[22:16] <EriC^^> ikonia: you said that if he uses one grub, the kernel won't update
[22:16] <ikonia> EriC^^: they won't be able to update the grub boot loader, so won't be able to boot the new kernel, and if the old one is removed as part of the update, won't boot at all
[22:17] <EriC^^> ikonia: but he can still boot his os, and run update-grub though can't he?
[22:17] <ikonia> EriC^^: no,
[22:17] <sta7ic> what comes after grub? honestly looking forward to the day its gone
[22:17] <EriC^^> hmm?
[22:17] <EriC^^> why not?
[22:17] <ikonia> EriC^^: as grub config files will be in the other grub directory in /etc
[22:18] <EriC^^> ikonia: won't grub find his other os and kernel?
[22:18] <Desez2tPunk> ikonia, his suggestion using aptitude worked :D Thanks though
[22:18] <Desez2tPunk> And thanks for helping me install it locsmif! :D
[22:18] <ikonia> Desez2tPunk: that makes no sense
[22:19] <ikonia> EriC^^: so every time he updates the kernel in OS1 - you're suggesting he boots into OS2 and runs grub-prober and update-grub ?
[22:19] <locsmif> Desez2tPunk: you're welcome
[22:19] <locsmif> EriC^^: of course it will
[22:19] <EriC^^> ikonia: yes, update-grub
[22:19] <ikonia> EriC^^: that is stupid
[22:19] <locsmif> EriC^^: grub config files aren't static
[22:19] <Desez2tPunk> ikonia, I installed aptitude with apt-get install aptitude then used aptitude install steam and it worked like a charm
[22:19] <ikonia> EriC^^: so to manage one OS, you suggest booting into another one
[22:19] <arkanciscan> how do I check the size of a file on the CLI?
[22:19] <ikonia> arkanciscan: ls -a
[22:19] <ikonia> ls -al
[22:19] <arkanciscan> ikonia: thx
[22:19] <Ben64> Desez2tPunk: can you pastebin the output from the aptitude command
[22:19] <ikonia> Desez2tPunk: that shouldn't do anything if there is a conflict
[22:20] <Desez2tPunk> ikonia, just saying that it worked haha :D
[22:20] <Desez2tPunk> Thanks everyone!
[22:20] <locsmif> ikonia: like I said, aptitude has an intelligent resolver
[22:20] <ikonia> locsmif: it can't resolve conflicts
[22:20] <EriC^^> ikonia: well he could use grub on his primary os, it would probably update-grub anyways when it installs new kernels
[22:20] <ikonia> locsmif: it can only deal with optionals
[22:20] <ikonia> EriC^^: no it wouldn't
[22:21] <EriC^^> ikonia: doesn't update-grub run after a new kernel is installed?
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> EriC^^: yes
[22:22] <Ben64> Desez2tPunk: but we'd like to know why it worked, a pastebin would help
[22:22] <ikonia> EriC^^: yes, but he's not updating that OS - he's updating the other OS which has no control over grub as the config files are in /etc on the first os
[22:22] <EriC^^> ikonia: i mean to install grub on the os he uses primarily
[22:23] <ikonia> EriC^^: right, and how does that help when he tries to update the second OS ?
[22:23] <uguntu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <mmercer> is /var/log/udev a special file in ubuntu like btmp and wtmp, or is it just a device listing ?
[22:23] <ikonia> mmercer: it's a log
[22:23] <Desez2tPunk> Ben64, this is as much of the terminal as I could copy paste, unless there's logs of it all some where?
[22:24] <sta7ic> by the way, both of my "/" partitions would be encryped
[22:24] <ikonia> sta7ic: even worse
[22:24] <sta7ic> it seems possible online but not sure with encryption
[22:24] <sta7ic> yeah
[22:24] <Desez2tPunk> Ben64, sorry forgot the url http://pastebin.com/ncQKNwJC output of terminal
[22:25] <ikonia> sta7ic: it really isn't realistic even without encytpion, unless you setup chain loading
[22:26] <Bashing-om> ikonia: EriC^^ I quad boot 'buntu's - on MBR .. and yes each time one of the alternate OSs updates grub, I must go back to my primary and re-institute that grub as the primary. I have 30_os-prober disabled in those alternate installs .
[22:26] <sta7ic> sda1 = 512 /boot, sda2 = 12GB crypto /, sda3 = 512 /boot, sda4 = 12GB crpto, sda5 = ext4 cryto that I can mount between the two.
[22:26] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i see
[22:26] <ikonia> sta7ic: not sure that that's got to do with anything
[22:27] <sta7ic> ill look into chain loading, whatever that is
[22:27] <sta7ic> what comes after grub, can we hurry it up there guys? j/k (sort of)
[22:27] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[22:28] <sta7ic> ikonia, i learnd on LILO and have never liked grub, especially grub2
[22:28] <ikonia> sta7ic: what's your question ?
[22:28] <sta7ic> then again, i miss /etc/inetd.conf
[22:29] <EriC^^> "what comes after grub" it's almost philosophical in nature /:>
[22:29] <sta7ic> ikonia, why does everything have to be so complicated...sort of ruins the beauty
[22:29] <EriC^^> sta7ic: you and avril lavigne both
[22:29] <EriC^^> god bless you too
[22:30] <ikonia> ?
[22:30] <sta7ic> my ex looks just like her
[22:30] <ikonia> ok - thats not for this channel please
[22:30] <sta7ic> and dont tell me to go to off topic, i know already..
[22:30] <sta7ic> haha
[22:30] <sta7ic> knew it
[22:30] <Bashing-om> sta7ic: 'cause people want to boot the system in 5 seconds ? (parallel processing )
[22:31] <EriC^^> *two
[22:31] <sta7ic> inetd.conf, used just be a file with every service you wanted to start at boot. if you didnt want that, you commented it out. simple but effective..
[22:31] <ikonia> sta7ic: that is not for this channel
[22:31] <ikonia> you can take a trip down memory lane elsewhere
[22:32] <sta7ic> now i have to rememebr all these rc.update commands that change every year on how it works, for what
[22:32] <sta7ic> so whats systemd all about?
[22:32] <sta7ic> somethings changing again
[22:32] <axgs> yo hi
[22:32] <akkad> systemd is about gnome trying to kill off kde once again
[22:32] <traekili> it will probably all pan out
[22:32] <ikonia> there is a lot of documentation on the web
[22:32] <ikonia> research systemd if you're interested in what it's about
[22:32] <sta7ic> !powertripper ikonia
[22:33] <ikonia> sta7ic: stop it, please
[22:33] <sta7ic> oh the bot doesnt know that cmd yet
[22:33] <sta7ic> ikonia, how bout you stop and let it go once in a while...your uptightness is depressing me
[22:34] <ikonia> sta7ic: please, just stick within the channel topic/guidelines
[22:34] <sta7ic> ikonia, /ignored
[22:34] <teward> !ops | sta7ic is becoming disruptive, and is ignoring the channel topic and guidelines
[22:34] <axgs> what is going on here ?
[22:34] <locsmif> zero tolerance at work
[22:57] <Guest8039> ?
[22:57] <Guest8039> hello?
[22:57] <k1l_> hi
[22:57] <Guest8039> Do know anything about arm processors and linux?>
[22:57] <ikonia> just ask your question Guest8039
[22:58] <Guest8039> Well
[22:58] <k1l_> if you want to talk about ARM and ubuntu you can ask in #ubuntu-arm  for general linux talk better ask in ##linux
[22:58] <Guest8039> I installed xfce on a chromebook with a nvidia tegra k1.
[22:58] <k1l_> !away > AustinTheGrey_Aw
[22:58] <Guest8039> How do I set up the graphics?
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest8039: sorry, thats not ubuntu
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest8039: this channel only deals with ubuntu
[22:58] <Guest8039> Ooh
[22:59] <Guest8039> What is xfce?
[22:59] <Guest8039> debian?
[22:59] <ikonia> desktop
[22:59] <k1l_> the chrubuntu stuff needs some special treatment. better ask the chrubuntu specialists.
[22:59] <Guest8039> What channel?
[22:59] <k1l_> !chrubuntu
[23:00] <k1l_> #chrubuntu maybe?
[23:00] <Guest8039> I found a channel but i used crouton
[23:00] <Guest8039> is there a difference?
[23:00] <Guest8039> im new kinda..
[23:01] <Guest8039> found a crouton chan nevermind
[23:01] <Nohant> Good Evening, there is someone who can help me with TestDisk and a Macbook?
[23:02] <KF5WYX> Can anyone tell me how to setup a serial port monitor @9600 81n ?
[23:02] <Nohant> someone know how to mount hfs+
[23:02] <Nohant> ?
[23:03] <quants> hi all, i am having trouble making a lubuntu .iso file live on a USB drive
[23:03] <Ullarah> quants, use rufus https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[23:04] <akkad> mount
[23:05] <KF5WYX> found gtkterm, looks like what I need.
[23:06] <et09> replaced default unity with xmonad, now no audio for non-root users
[23:06] <quants> Ullarah, how does it work, sorry im a newb
[23:06] <et09> anyone know the fix for that
[23:07] <EriC^^> quants: try dd, sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M ( where /dev/sdX is your usb's name type lsblk to get it )
[23:07] <EriC^^> quants: or sudo parted -l , to get the name and double check
[23:07] <quants> Eric do explain
[23:08] <k1l_> quants: what did not work with the solution a linked earlier?
[23:09] <quants> K1l i tried but when i get two stem three i cant find the file on the usb
[23:10] <EriC^^> quants: what file?
[23:10] <k1l_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:11] <k1l_> quants: you are using windows right now, right?
[23:11] <quants> K1l , EriC. sorry im new.  is there a simple way to do this through the terminal, im failing with the GUI's
[23:12] <EriC^^> quants: yes, dd
[23:12] <quants> k1l im using ubuntu on my laptop. im trying to convirt my friends laptop
[23:12] <k1l_> quants: ok then just use "dd"
[23:12] <EriC^^> quants: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l , it should list the disks, get the name of your usb sdb sdc sd... etc.
[23:12] <quants> dd ??
[23:13] <quants> ok EriC............??
[23:13] <skinux> Is there any way to set it up so that when I click on File Explorer icon in Unity's left-side launcher, it will prompt for password and open File Explorer with 'sudo' privileges?
[23:13] <EriC^^> quants: ?
[23:13] <k1l_> see "fdisk -l" what your usb stick is named. than use the dd command with input of your .iso and output of your usb drive and it will make a 1to1 copy from the iso to the usb
[23:14] <daftykins> skinux: but we need protecting from ourselves
[23:14] <Kamuela> How do I reinstate swap with LVM? I removed that partition with system-config-lvm but haven't done anything else. The GUI doesn't support creating the partition as swap.
[23:15] <ikonia> system-config-lvm ? thats redhat isn't it ?
[23:15] <mothi> Can someone help me as to what to do when my system completely freezes if I try to connect to a network over wi-fi. I have tried two different wifi bundles. I get the network list okay, but as soon as I connect, the system freezes completely.
[23:15] <quants> EriC what date do you need from Sudo parted -l ??
[23:15] <_X_C_V_B_> I can't find the command for http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
[23:15] <EriC^^> quants: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:15] <kjhkjh> qoiuoiuoiu
[23:15] <EriC^^> and paste the link here quants
[23:16] <mothi> I am running 3.13.0-46-lowlatency #79-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT
[23:16] <skinux> daftykins: For an average user, yes that would be true. Either way, is there a way to set that up or not?
[23:19] <daftykins> skinux: why don't you just run the prog with gksu?
[23:20] <skinux> Don't I have to do that from shell?
[23:21] <daftykins> depends what desktop you're on i think
[23:23] <EriC^^> skinux: cp the nautilus.desktop file and prepend gksu
[23:23] <EriC^^> make it Exec=gksu nautilus %U
[23:23] <skinux> So, gksu.nautilus.desktop?
[23:23] <Ben64> sounds like a horrible idea
[23:24] <Ben64> you should not be running nautilus as root at all
[23:25] <skinux> Well, I'd have to in order to move/copy a file or directory to /var/www or /opt/ using nautilus.
[23:25] <TiK> you can just do it in bash
[23:25] <skinux> I can, yes, but it is nice to be able to move files around using nautilus.
[23:26] <TiK> i guess
[23:26] <Ben64> skinux: you should set up /var/www so that you can copy to it with your own user, and there should not be a need to copy things so often into /opt that you need nautilus to always run as root
[23:26] <EriC^^> skinux: yes, call it what you want, change it's Name=nautilus to gksu-nautilus or something, and remove the --new-window from Exec=
[23:27] <daftykins> skinux: you should probably learn to do things the proper way.
[23:27] <EriC^^> btw nautilus should have a warning that says it's open with privileges, kind of odd it doesn't have that O.o
[23:28] <daftykins> if you're going to start cutting corners with web admin and what not, you won't learn properly
[23:28] <EriC^^> other filemanagers have it
[23:28] <skinux> daftykins: And what is the proper way in this case?
[23:28] <daftykins> EriC^^: +1! perhaps it could be filed as a bug 0o
[23:28] <Latrodectus> skinux,  using root often opens your pc up to risk
[23:28] <daftykins> skinux: proper CLI file management
[23:29] <mothi> How can I install some other driver for my wi-fi dongle than rt2800usb?
[23:29] <mothi> Is there some guide somewhere
[23:30] <skinux> daftykins: Does that mean I should always be using shell if I need admin privileges, or that I should never put a file somewhere that needs admin privileges to do it?
[23:30] <EriC^^> skinux: first one
[23:31] <daftykins> skinux: ^ +1 - apparently ubuntu has the plan of removing all methods of running GUI apps with sudo / as root in future
[23:31] <daftykins> i don't see why it's so hard to "mv foo bar"
[23:31] <daftykins> you still often have to mess with permissions
[23:32] <Caybia> Hello?
[23:32] <skinux> How about this, if you want to move multiple files, but not the whole directory to another location, how do you do that in one command?
[23:32] <EriC^^> skinux: using the shell you'll have a more firm grasp on where stuff is and you'll be less prone to making mistakes too instead of dragging and dropping and whatnot
[23:32] <daftykins> skinux: mv file1 file2... :P
[23:32] <daftykins> or if they're named similarly, file*
[23:33] <EriC^^> ^ +1
[23:33] <daftykins> yep plus X doesn't belong on a server
[23:34] <bandsmell> I heard Microsoft was buying ubuntu.
[23:35] <daftykins> bandsmell: only if the Barbie deal goes through
[23:37] <bandsmell> For a billion dollars. Money will talk. They say it's better to buy the competition and crush them that way.
[23:37] <daftykins> bandsmell: ok enough rubbish now, support questions only thanks. silly chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:39] <gammaraid> Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me install python 3.2.3 on ubuntu and get a virtual env running? Whenver I try to do apt-get python3 I only get python 3.4
[23:40] <bandsmell> gammaraid: You running an app that needs an older version
[23:40] <OerHeks> gammaraid, python 3.4 is installed standard, why do you need that old version from 2012?
[23:41] <gammaraid> bandsmell - our web server runs 3.2.3 and right now my version works on my comp (running 3.4) but not on the server running 3.2.3
[23:41] <gglescience2> oi brasil -'
[23:41] <gammaraid> so I think it might be part of the issue.
[23:41] <gammaraid> and I can't change the server version
[23:41] <daftykins> !br | gglescience2
[23:41] <gammaraid> oldheks also see above as to why ^__^
[23:41] <gammaraid> oerheks sorry*
[23:42] <spaceindaver> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu 14.10 64bit and just found a log called unity7.log with a file size of over 20GB. It seems to be filled with line after line of "Did not understand "" please try again:". Any idea what could be causing this or how to track it?
[23:43] <k1l_> spaceindaver: where is that logfile located?
[23:43] <spaceindaver> In ~/.cache/upstart/
[23:44] <daftykins> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1240848
[23:44] <OerHeks> gammaraid, sorry, never heard of bandsmell
[23:45] <gammaraid> oerheks haha sorry that is not our server that was the first guy I was replying to
[23:45] <gammaraid> the reason I'm using python 3.2.3 or need to rather is because that's what the server my code is going to run on is running
[23:46] <spaceindaver> daftykins: Yeah, I saw that but I did not remove logrotate
[23:46] <caybrennelson> Hello?
[23:46] <daftykins> caybrennelson: ? got a support question?
[23:46] <daftykins> spaceindaver: have you installed packages from a different version as one reply suggests?
[23:46] <bandsmell> gammaraid: search for it and install the version you want yourself. You can have multiple versions installed
[23:47] <caybrennelson> Yes. I am trying to install WinE on a computer with no network connection.
[23:47] <gammaraid> bandsmell yah i finally went back to one answer i found on google and resolved another issue that was stopping me from doing it
[23:47] <gammaraid> and am doing it now
[23:47] <gammaraid> I am very bad at linuxing
[23:47] <spaceindaver> daftykins: not that I am aware of, I reinstalled my OS last weekend so I basically on a fresh install
[23:48] <EriC^^> caybrennelson: can't you hook it up to an ethernet or something?
[23:49] <daftykins> spaceindaver: have you tried removing the file, restarting, then watching the file for which program you run causes it to be spammed again?
[23:50] <caybrennelson> No, not at the moment.But see,  I have the .tar.bz on the computer for WinE, but I need some type of directory  program just called "make".
[23:50] <gammaraid> Thanks for help
[23:51] <EriC^^> spaceindaver: ^ +1, maybe lsof | grep ~/.cache/upstart/unity7.log would show what has it opened
[23:51] <caybrennelson> daftykins: I also need flex v. 2.5.33 or later and bison.
[23:51] <spaceindaver> daftykins: I have deleted the file, I suppose my only option is to keep an eye on it in the future and try to figure out what is spamming the log
[23:51] <daftykins> caybrennelson: don't tell me!
[23:51] <mmercer> anyone know if there is a ppa or authentic source for openvas 7 packages for ubuntu ?
[23:51] <daftykins> spaceindaver: yes as mentioned
[23:52] <mmercer> seems amazing that its been out since august and still not very well deployable
[23:52] <gskellig> Can someone help me reinstall grub? I thought my data was wiped but its still there and I can access it from a livecd
[23:52] <EriC^^> gskellig: have you booted a live usb/cd?
[23:52] <spaceindaver> EriC^^:Excellent, thanks. I'm sure that will come in handy when I see it happening again
[23:52] <gskellig> Yes
[23:52] <caybrennelson> daftykins: what?
[23:53] <gskellig> Eric^^: its EFI too I dontknow if that matters
[23:53] <daftykins> caybrennelson: you highlighted me when i wasn't talking to you :)
[23:53] <EriC^^> ( spaceindaver ok use /home/<user> instead of ~ my bad )
[23:53] <EriC^^> gskellig: ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:53] <gskellig> Lol ok
[23:53] <etronik> Hi all!  I just setup xrdp and can make a connection from Win7 to my Ubuntu box, but opening LibreOffice kills the connection (maybe crashes the xfce4 used for the session?) any ideas ? TIA
[23:53] <caybrennelson> daftykins: Oh. I thought we were. I have no idea how this IRC thing works.
[23:54] <spaceindaver> Come to think of it, I was converting a blender file to an Ogre mesh at the time so maybe there is just a problem with that. It was running very slowly so that was probably because of all the spam, I'll try it again and see if it starts spamming
[23:54] <spaceindaver> Is there anything I can do to stop a program from spamming it?
[23:54] <gskellig_> if you're going to want me to pastebin i should probably be on irc from the computer
[23:54] <johnja> I'm having a bit of trouble with my desktop running Ubuntu 14.04.  It locked up on me today and when I try to reboot, it fails.  When I try to boot in recovery mode the last line I see before it stops is:
[23:54] <EriC^^> gskellig_: you need to have a net connection on the pc
[23:55] <gskellig_> i do
[23:55] <gskellig_> im ready
[23:55] <daftykins> spaceindaver: close said program :)
[23:55] <EriC^^> gskellig_: ok, type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:55] <johnja> [    3.020781] Switched to clocksource tsc
[23:55] <johnja> What does this mean?
[23:55] <daftykins> johnja: gonna need a few more lines for context. likely display mode switching
[23:55] <gskellig_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10681268/
[23:55] <spaceindaver> daftykins: haha, what if I want to run to program but ignore logged output?
[23:56] <daftykins> spaceindaver: cross that bridge when you come to it.
[23:56] <EriC^^> gskellig_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:56] <EriC^^> gskellig_: and sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[23:56] <gskellig_> EriC^^: done
[23:57] <johnja> before clocksource tsc is hid-generic 0003:046d:C225.0003
[23:57] <EriC^^> gskellig_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[23:57] <johnja> before that is input: G11 Keyboard
[23:57] <spaceindaver> daftykins: Interesting, I ran it there and it completed in under 10 seconds while it took 2 hours earlier on. This time I ran it from a terminal, last time I ran it directly from blender. Now I have a workaround :-) Thanks for the help!!
[23:58] <johnja> before that is some usb stuff
[23:58] <gskellig_> sorry
[23:58] <gskellig_> EriC^^: you lost me..
[23:58] <gskellig_> oh haha i think i get it
[23:59] <gskellig_> EriC^^: sudo mount -b /dev /mnt/dev etc?
[23:59] <EriC^^> lol you thought im being like shakespear or something ? to mount or not to mount
[23:59] <gskellig_> for a sec yeah lol
[23:59] <EriC^^> yeah it loops through them and mounts them