[00:00] <melodie> it's different, being a revolving system
[00:00] <melodie> I have this one since 2009 and it has been copied to 2 other machines and before I think I copied it from another machine
[00:00] <melodie> well the install was done in 2009
[00:01] <melodie> I also had it in 32bits and I converted it to 64bits following a tutorial on the wiki
[00:02] <melodie> 25 minutes, the screen hasn't gone off
[00:02] <melodie> maybe I'm good to go
[00:02] <melodie> I'll remove light locker.
[00:03] <Enkidu_ak> Excellent. Glad we solved i
[00:03] <Enkidu_ak> it
[00:03] <melodie> I have to reboot windows and let it update during I don't know how many hours it seems not to provide any progression bar of any kind. That might be more tricky.
[00:03] <melodie> tomorrow I'll check again how is the screen behavior in Xubuntu :)
[00:04] <melodie> I'll say tomorrow if it is totally solved (once the command lines aren't in effect anymore)
[00:04] <Enkidu_ak> Good luck
[00:04] <melodie> hope so! X ← crossing fingers!
[00:06] <melodie> Enkidu_ak thanks a mountain for your kind help
[00:07] <Enkidu_ak> My pleasure
[00:09] <melodie> :)
[01:13] <melodie> Enkidu_ak I might have created a new way for the W 8.1 dual boot: Windows Stiff
[01:13] <melodie> it does not update :?
[01:13] <melodie> :p
[01:13] <melodie> never mind...
[01:14] <Enkidu_ak> Windows Stiff? That doesn't sound pleasant...
[01:14] <melodie> as in "stable" (after the version names of libreoffice : still and the other one XD )
[01:15] <melodie> well figure out, now it's installing!
[01:15] <melodie> not sure, I have retried several times and rebooted twice, then the last reboot I booted directly from the Windows Boot Manager, perhaps that makes a difference
[01:15] <melodie> not sure
[01:16] <melodie> well no
[01:16] <melodie> it stalled
[01:16] <melodie> me thinks the HP staff has done a crummy job
[01:16] <melodie> and that's all
[01:16] <melodie> the first partition isn't even on a cylinder boundary :p
[01:19] <Enkidu_ak> Cylinder boundary? I would think that UEFI would be over that hurdle in any case. No need to give all of the blame to HP. There is plenty to go around, you can give the Windows installer its fair share :D
[01:20] <Enkidu_ak> Speaking of installers, I would really like mdraid to be included in desktop xubuntu images again.
[01:20] <knome> melodie, Enkidu_ak: we have #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support, offtopic chatter
[01:21] <melodie> thanks knome
[01:21] <Enkidu_ak> knome, Sorry, I get carried away :)
[01:21] <knome> no problem
[01:21] <melodie> if offtopic suited for dual-boot issues?
[01:22] <Enkidu_ak> Dual boot is probably on topic, but I think we strayed from that
[01:22]  * melodie invites Enkidu_ak to #linuxvillage
[01:48] <melodie> good night
[02:19] <quantibiliy> new kernel update won't boot. 45?
[02:21] <holstein> quantibiliy: so, the old one will?
[02:21] <quantibiliy> boot.
[02:21] <quantibiliy> yes
[02:22] <holstein> quantibiliy: try booting the old one, and make sure your upgrade "worked".. from there, you can reinstall the "new" kernel, and file a bug, i fyou like
[02:22] <holstein> !bug
[02:22] <quantibiliy> i did boot the old one its what im using now
[02:24] <quantibiliy> holstein how do i check if it worked?
[02:24] <holstein> quantibiliy: i will run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and look for errors..
[02:27] <quantibiliy> holstein now what? didn't see any?
[02:27] <holstein> quantibiliy: then, move on
[02:27] <quantibiliy> reboot?
[02:27] <holstein> quantibiliy: i next suggested, reinstalling the "bad" new kernel
[02:28] <holstein> quantibiliy: then, test, and file a bug..
[05:53] <DJJeff> I am running Xfce DE and I prefer to use gnome-terminal over xfce-terminal
[05:53] <DJJeff> holding page down is sending the ~ symbol
[05:54] <DJJeff> it does the same thing in xfce-terminal
[05:54] <DJJeff> but holding page down in xchat it does not send the ~ symbol
[09:25] <scotchrv> Hello all
[09:26] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[09:30] <scotchrv> Oh thanks, i am newbie in this irc
[09:34] <ObrienDave> ok, not a problem, how can we help you?
[09:35] <scotchrv> I am in irc to talk with xubuntu's user, to exchange ideas. Sorry for my english, iam french ;).
[09:36] <ObrienDave> ok, this is a support channel. for general chat try #xubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <scotchrv> Oh im sorry, i don't know .
[09:37] <scotchrv>  Thanks and have a nice day .
[09:37] <ObrienDave> not a problem. that's how we learn. you too
[09:39] <Slash0mega> hello, i am trying to install xubuntu to a flash drive with persistance, but it is not remembering anything... anybody know why it might not be working?
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> how are you doing that?
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> using the usb creator?
[09:40] <ObrienDave> what are you using to install. unetbootin?
[09:41] <Slash0mega> unetbootin and lili
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> Slash0mega: try ubuntu's own usb creator
[09:41] <ObrienDave> easier way is to burn ISO to DVD, boot live DVD and use that to install to USB stick
[09:42] <pmjdebruijn> but that will render the stick useless as a general USB drive
[09:42] <Slash0mega> will try ubuntus usb creator
[09:42] <ObrienDave> partition it like a real HD
[09:42] <Slash0mega> the native istall will be a last resort due to read/write cycle paranoia
[09:43]  * pmjdebruijn doesn't get why people use non-standard tools like unetbootin before the standard ubuntu tools in the first place
[09:44] <Slash0mega> i also have been installing puppy, and i have been using lilu for a few things
[09:44] <pmjdebruijn> not that usb creator hasn't had it's fair share of bugs, but it should always be the first try :)
[09:46] <Slash0mega> er, is the offical usb creator hosted by pindrive linux? that is where the ubuntu website is pointing me
[09:48] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[09:48] <pmjdebruijn> you're not on ubuntu?
[09:48] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[09:49] <Slash0mega> ah, that would be a problem, only linux i have is said usb drive
[09:49] <Slash0mega> i doubt i could re-install it while it is booted from itself
[09:50] <ObrienDave> no, that is not possible
[09:50] <Slash0mega> meh, ill install it to another drive and do it from therem
[09:50] <Slash0mega> *there
[09:51] <Slash0mega> xubuntu has the disk creator right? or do i need to download a ubuntu image
[09:52] <Slash0mega> if i install xubuntu to the drive like i would to a harddisk, i can format it later to use as a standard usb drive again right?
[09:53] <ObrienDave> yes
[09:54] <ObrienDave> you can also partition the USB stick to have both xubuntu and a NTFS drive, for example
[09:55] <Slash0mega> i might try that, depending on if i can figure out how to get windows to read the right partition :/
[09:55] <ObrienDave> windows won't read ext4
[09:56] <ObrienDave> not without a third party utility
[09:56] <Slash0mega> ah, so if a windows compatable partition comes after it, that will be the one it reads
[09:57] <ObrienDave> windows won't read what it doesn't recognize
[10:46] <TaZeR> hey does anyone know where i can find the 15.04 beta for powerpc iso?
[11:55] <knome> TaZeR, there is no powerpc ISO for xubuntu 15.04.
[12:04] <TaZeR> oh ok thanks
[12:05] <Enkidu_ak> TaZeR, You might install 14.10 and do a dist-upgrade
[12:05] <knome> Enkidu_ak, there is no powerpc ISO for xubuntu 14.10...
[12:05] <Enkidu_ak> Oh...
[12:09] <knome> !ppc
[14:50] <Number5> Hello guys, how can I set DNS permanently so it won't lost after reboot? If I want to edit it in /etc/resolv.conf, I see a comment in the file which says that this file will be overwritten. So what am I suppose to do?
[14:52] <knome> Number5, http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-include-lines-in-resolv-conf-that-wont-get-lost-on-reboot
[14:53] <knome> Number5, see the first answer
[14:53] <knome> well, all the answers really..
[14:53] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[14:53] <knome> hello
[14:55] <xubuntu526> hai
[14:56] <xubuntu526> i am new to xubuntu
[14:56] <xubuntu526> i have a issue with my wifi
[14:56] <xubuntu526> it not working
[14:56] <xubuntu526> how can i solve this?
[14:57] <pmjdebruijn> it's not working how?
[14:57] <knome> xubuntu526, please elaborate what "not working" means
[14:57] <pmjdebruijn> where does it fail
[14:59] <xubuntu526> how can i enable wifi in linux?
[14:59] <pmjdebruijn> you don't see any wireless networks in network-manager?
[15:00] <xubuntu526> no
[15:00] <pmjdebruijn> what type of wireless chip does your laptop have?
[15:01] <Number5> knome, thank you for your help my friend :)
[15:01] <xubuntu526> btoadcom
[15:01] <xubuntu526> broadcom
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> or
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> depending whether it's an older of newer chip
[15:02] <xubuntu526> bcm4311 802.11b/g wlan
[15:03] <pmjdebruijn> that's probably legacy
[15:40] <carrera>  I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 + xubuntu-desktop package so I could have SoftRAID on my laptop but the XFCE Network Connections plugin in the Desktop Panel doesn't work properly
[15:41] <bazhang> single disk raid and a server on laptop?
[15:41] <carrera> I have 2 x 500 GB SanDisk SSDs on my laptop
[15:42] <carrera> bazhang, why would anyone want a single disk RAID?
[15:42] <bazhang> "doesn't work properly" = what exactly
[15:43] <carrera> I suddenly realized that I don't have an entry for an Ethernet connection
[15:44] <bazhang> lspci , look for the controller
[15:45] <wiredfool> Just upgraded my xubunutu desktop from precise to trusty, and my xkeyboardmap keeps resetting, about every 12-24 hours. Keyboard is plugged into a motherboard usb port. ideas? http://pastebin.com/jqNrTijT
[15:45] <carrera> Even when I disable networking from the Network Plugin, I have to wait about 2 mins on boot because the server is waiting for an IP address
[15:47] <carrera> that's when my laptop is not connected to a router via Ethernet
[15:49] <carrera> third, when I created a new Ethernet entry, it didn't make a difference.  I don't know where it saved the new static connection details but it wasn't in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:49] <carrera> so I had to go in and add the entries for a static IP to /etc/network/interfaces myself
[16:54] <carrera> what is the xubuntu NetInstall file?
[17:46] <carrera> can anyone tell me how I can get the iso file for the NetInstall?
[17:49] <Unit193> !mini
[17:50] <Unit193> Unless you mean for vivid, but that's highly unlikely.
[17:50] <carrera> Thanks Unit193
[17:50] <Unit193> Sure.
[17:51] <carrera> would mini only install the latest version, i.e. 14.10, or can I use it to install Xubuntu 14.04 too?
[17:53] <carrera> great there are mini files for 5 of the previous LTS versions
[17:54] <Unit193> Exactly, different iso for each one.
[17:54] <carrera> one more question
[17:55] <carrera> does installing from mini provide Software RAID support ?
[17:55] <carrera> I've a laptop with 2 SSDs but no Hardware RAID controller
[18:03] <genii> carrera: As far as I know only the ubuntu server alternate has RAID support standard during install time
[18:04] <carrera> Oops
[18:04] <carrera> that's what I have installed right now
[18:06] <carrera> then I added xubuntu-desktop
[18:06] <carrera> but I don't think it's as well integrated as a xubuntu distro
[18:15] <tty0_> Hi there, this might be off-topic but i think this is the best place to ask: I have debian jessie with xfce and xubuntu theme. All looks good except some gtk3 apps like evince or gnome-calculator. The window decoration is different and shortkeys like ALT-SPACE do not work. The interesting thing is that "Network Connections" window has proper window decoration.  I tried some ideas i found on net, like ln -s /usr/share/themes/.../gtk-3.0
[18:16] <tty0_> though this changes the color theme but does not help with the window decoration
[21:17] <recon_lap> hey, all my desktop icons disappear about 2 days ago, any ideas what might be going on?
[21:18] <pmjdebruijn> ls ~/Desktop
[21:18] <Unit193> xfdesktop running?
[21:18] <pmjdebruijn> does that sy anything?
[21:18] <recon_lap> the files are there
[21:19] <pmjdebruijn> presumably you disable showing them in XFCE's preferences
[21:19] <recon_lap> running xfdesktop made them appear again , thx , now wonder if they will stay
[21:19] <pmjdebruijn> I think it's just a checkbox
[21:19] <pmjdebruijn> ah oh
[21:19] <pmjdebruijn> nevermind then
[21:20] <recon_lap> actually , how do you delete the saved user session that are created when you log out?
[21:22] <Unit193> They aren't created for meeee.  ~/.cache/sessions
[21:24] <recon_lap> and the last thing, both firefox and Thunar have been segfaulting all over the place. anyone have any ideas why that might be happening?
[21:25] <pmjdebruijn> 14.04.2 or 14.10?
[21:25] <recon_lap> sry not thunar, but thunderbird 14.04 i think
[21:26] <recon_lap> think I got some pluging that causing trouble. must have generated 100's of crash reports at this stage
[21:26] <pmjdebruijn> are you using plugins?
[21:27] <pmjdebruijn> then I'm sure it's the plugins
[21:27] <pmjdebruijn> it's _always_ the plugins :)
[21:27] <recon_lap> well, not a pluging as such, as it's affecting my e-mail client too.
[21:27] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[21:27]  * pmjdebruijn doesn't follow
[21:28] <recon_lap> well, maybe I'm wrong and thundarbird loads firefox plugings?
[21:28] <pmjdebruijn> no clue
[21:28] <pmjdebruijn> I don't use tb
[21:29] <pmjdebruijn> I do use firefox a lot ,and it's rock solid over here
[21:29] <pmjdebruijn> but I only have two simple plugins (from EFF)
[21:29] <recon_lap> hmm, maybe I should be saying add on's
[21:29] <pmjdebruijn> sure add-ons
[21:29] <recon_lap> think it might be flash causing the issues
[21:30] <pmjdebruijn> that shouldn't crash firefox anymore, as flash runs in a seperate process
[21:30] <pmjdebruijn> you should probably deinstall it anyhow, since that will make you significantly more security, but that's another argument altogether :D
[21:32] <recon_lap> think "computer security " is a new oxymoron term :)
[21:33] <pmjdebruijn> well
[21:33] <recon_lap> should be computer insecurity !!
[21:33] <pmjdebruijn> flash makes that more true than it needs to be
[21:34] <recon_lap> googles uninstalling flash, I'll give it a try
[21:37] <recon_lap> set it to ask before running, it's an extension of firefox. anyways, thx for the help
[21:38] <pmjdebruijn> that lesses the risk considerably yes