[03:54] <ScottK> Riddell: When is it?
[04:27] <valorie> ScottK: https://dot.kde.org/2015/01/20/akademy-2015-coru%C3%B1a-spain-25-31-july
[04:27] <ScottK> Thanks.
[04:29] <ScottK> Oh.  No can do.  I've to immovable plans for that week (unless of course someone changes their mind about getting married).
[04:36]  * valorie is going to a wedding this weekend
[04:37] <valorie> I'm looking forward to every minute of it
[07:51] <micmord> hello kubuntu folks, testing Vivid I got problem with the latest kde-l10n-it package
[07:51] <micmord> bug #1436395
[08:59] <mitya57> sitter: that qtwayland patch looks ok, go ahead and upload it
[10:00] <Riddell> meh new images
[10:00] <Riddell> !testers | more kubuntu beta 2 candidates
[10:01] <Riddell> micmord: could you report a bug and let me know the number for tagging?
[10:03] <micmord> bug #1436395
[10:03] <Riddell> lovely thanks micmord 
[10:23] <Riddell> yossarianuk: testing tracker is at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds
[10:23] <Riddell> click on CD icon next to e.g. "Kubuntu Desktop amd64" and you'll get the url
[10:23] <yossarianuk> thanks - i'll test beta2 (when its out) and report if same thing re-occurs
[10:24] <Riddell> by the time it's out it'll be too late :)
[10:24] <yossarianuk> so it that essentially beta2?
[10:24] <Riddell> it'll beta 2 if we think it's good enough after testing
[10:24] <Riddell> it'll be beta 2 if we think it's good enough after testing
[10:25] <yossarianuk> ok thanks - will test tonight !
[10:34] <sitter> Riddell: you did not upstream your muon patch
[10:34] <sitter> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_muon/
[10:34] <sitter> oh wait, you did
[10:34] <sitter> you just didn't drop the patch?
[10:35] <sitter> Riddell: also was it you who uploaded apport?
[10:37] <soee> good morning
[10:41] <Riddell> sitter: um maybe, did the apport uploader do something bad?
[10:41] <Riddell> sitter: probably I didn't drop it in stable, please do
[10:42] <sitter> Riddell: pitti rejected it because the deps didn't get updated
[10:42] <sitter> needs python3-pyqt5 instead of pykde
[10:45] <Riddell> sitter: ah
[10:46] <Riddell> that was silly of whoever uploaded it :)
[10:47] <sitter> Riddell: thing is I don't even know where the packaging is hiding so I gave up fixing that :O
[10:50] <Riddell> sitter: it's just in a UDD branch which is merged from upstream branch for added complexity
[10:51] <sitter> mh, but the branch I found didn't have your changes and no merge history altogether
[10:52] <sitter> cantor still needs fixing :@
[10:53] <Riddell> what's wrong with cantor? weren't you separating the library there?
[10:53] <sitter> yeah but no one then answered me when I asked whether we should go with the partial splittering or do a full blow mental split-everything move
[10:55] <Riddell> sitter: I didn't get what the problem was that it needed splitting at all for?
[10:55] <sitter> Riddell: it didn't necessarily ... we could just make a cantor-dev
[10:56] <Riddell> sitter: what's that needed for? does something build-dep on it?
[10:57] <sitter> Riddell: it's needed because upstream says it is a public lib
[10:58] <sitter> Riddell: http://markmail.org/thread/3rv4ucwqxbloz6b7
[11:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:00] <Riddell> sitter: ok upstream hopes it'll be used maybe and we're just holding them back
[11:01] <Riddell> sitter: remind me again what the difference between partial split and full blown split is?
[11:02] <yofel> iso tracker link added
[11:04] <yofel> sitter: go with partial unless you think the full one is worth your work
[11:04] <sitter> Riddell: full blown cantor -> kpart5-cantor -> libcantorlibs -> cantor-panels & cantor-assistants & libcantrolibs-data & cantor-backend-*
[11:04] <sitter> partial is what I proposed
[11:05] <sitter> but to help upstream we could simply leave everything as it is and create a cantor-dev package
[11:06] <sitter> ^ since only third parties would potentially use it at this point isolating the library doesn't add real value other than reducing the amount of crap a third party application would pull in and enable a third party to do lib transitioning
[11:07] <sitter> latter would be hard anyway though since cantor libs, panelplugins, assistantplugins and backends are somewhat interdependent at runtime
[11:08] <sitter> so perhaps we should go with a simple cantor-dev package and revisit the issue when/if an application in the archive wants to use the lib
[11:09] <Riddell> sitter: yeah do that
[11:09] <sitter> Riddell: are you fixing apport btw? I am lost with udd
[11:10] <sitter> shadeslayer: I spy with my little eye: untranslated string http://imgur.com/vklWuUg
[11:11] <sitter> chances are all our KCMs are affected actually
[11:11] <shadeslayer> what the heck is intel microcode
[11:11] <sitter> ah yes
[11:11] <sitter> no one told you?
[11:11] <shadeslayer> no
[11:11] <shadeslayer> what
[11:11] <sitter> someone was asking that and I told them to tell you
[11:12] <sitter> shadeslayer: it's a package that does cpu microcode updates without bios update
[11:12] <sitter> alas, the current infromation we supply doesn't tell the user
[11:12] <sitter> so I was thinking you should have a look if we perhaps can get some more information on this bugger (e.g. have a look what ubuntu does)
[11:17] <shadeslayer> what does the ubuntu thing say
[11:18] <sitter> I duno
[11:19] <sitter> Riddell: oh and apport-kde also needs to dpened on am I to 
[11:19] <sitter> no, wrong paste
[11:20] <sitter> Riddell: oh and apport-kde also needs to dpened on qttranslations5-l10n
[11:20] <sitter> xD
[11:20] <sitter> for qmessagebox translations
[11:20] <sitter> well mates
[11:20] <sitter> bad news
[11:20] <sitter> it appears the KCMs were uploaded before I fixed pkg-kde
[11:20] <sitter> so their l10n is not extracted
[11:20] <sitter> weeeh
[11:28] <Riddell> sitter: which KCMs and why do they need l10n extracted_
[11:28] <sitter> driver-manager, whoopsie, notification-helper
[11:28] <sitter> they handle l10n thru launchpad
[11:29] <sitter> because no one can be bothered to put them in kde playground I guess
[11:34]  * sitter apparently released whoopsie at a sprint and forgot to push to master >>
[11:38] <sitter> mh
[11:38] <sitter> ki18n needs patching to make the desktop files work
[11:38] <sitter> :'<
[11:41] <Riddell> Quintasan_: last day of gsoc applications I think
[11:47] <sitter> eek
[11:48] <sitter> Riddell: please reject kde-config-whoopsie and kubuntu-driver-manager
[11:48] <sitter> they contain build dirs :S
[11:49] <ScottK> sitter: .
[11:49] <sitter> どうも
[11:49]  * Riddell tries to work out how to login to launchpad with a spanish keyboard
[11:51] <Riddell> sitter: I dont see them in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[11:51] <sitter> Riddell: because scott already kicked them
[11:51] <Riddell> ah
[11:52] <sitter> thanks anyway ;)
[11:52] <sitter> fixed versions uploaded
[11:52] <sitter> anyone knows if we have kcms/kdeds other than whoopsie, driver and notification?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you chairnapping the chair
[11:56] <Riddell> a bit more relaxing out here
[11:57] <shadeslayer> we can fix that :P
[12:03] <sitter> 11:23:42 dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-style-oxygen-qt5_4%3a5.2.2+git20150326.0222+14.10-0ubuntu0_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:03] <sitter> 11:23:42  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/org.kde.kdecoration2/oxygendecoration.so', which is also in package kwin-decoration-oxygen 
[12:03] <sitter> what the
[12:03] <sitter> that plasma merge snafu sure broke things in the most exciting ways Oo
[12:04] <sitter> and Riddell stacked more stuff ontop of it 
[12:04]  * sitter so sad
[12:04]  * shadeslayer hugs sitter
[12:04] <sitter> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxygen <- ubuntu2 not pushed
[12:09] <sitter> Riddell: nevermind, I'll import
[12:14] <sgclark> morning
[12:14] <Riddell> hi sgclark 
[12:15] <Riddell> sgclark: is it a beautiful day where you are?
[12:15] <sgclark> yes for a few days
[12:15] <sgclark> well it is dark atm :)
[12:16] <Riddell> oh yes your crazy sleep hours continue to amaze!
[12:16] <Riddell> but you can watch the sun rise, that is always a joy
[12:16] <Riddell> and maybe hear the dawn chorus of birds
[12:17] <sgclark> :)
[12:17] <sgclark> well Ben has me busy with ci already lol
[12:17] <sgclark> but I will get to apps at some point today.
[12:18] <Riddell> hey don't overload yourself, ci is more than enough for any sane person
[12:18] <Riddell> or even sitter
[12:45] <mparillo> When installing the new 32-bit ISO to a VM this morning, at the end, I get a button to click for re-boot now. I think it used to simply exit the installer to a text panel saying remove your CD and hit enter. Anyway, when I cick the exit button, the screen goes blank and nothing happens. For regular full disk install, I simply powered off the VM and when I restarted it, Vivid came up great. I will try the same with 
[12:45] <mparillo> encrypted LVM. It might take an hour or so before I can try on bare metal.
[12:46] <yofel> that it did nothing on exit isn't good. That the eject disk dialog is missing is a known issue
[12:47] <Riddell> oh? I get the plymouth eject disk dialogue but when I press enter nothing happens
[12:48] <yofel> ah, maybe that got fixed, I'm syncing isos now
[12:49] <Riddell> I'm using bare hardware
[12:49] <Riddell> and auto login doesn't work on the live cd, sad times
[12:49] <Riddell> but besides all the bugs it seems to work :)
[12:49] <yofel> huh? live session worked fine for me in VB yesterday
[12:49] <Riddell> trying upgrade again now that baloo package is back in
[12:50] <Riddell> yofel: auto login worked on live?
[12:50] <yofel> I clicked on "try kubuntu" and got plasma
[12:50] <Riddell> hmm, not today for me on bare metal
[12:52] <BluesKaj> system settings/driver manager still not scanning for HW, still have to install the gpu driver manually ...nothing has changed as far as I can tell, the same annoyances as in beta1 
[12:52] <soee> Riddell: yes autologin worked for me
[12:53] <Riddell> soee: vm or bare?
[12:53] <soee> Riddell: VB
[12:53] <yofel> Riddell: 20150326 amd64 starts the session fine in VB
[12:53] <Riddell> most strange
[12:53] <yofel> oh, now I can actually start ubiquity from live
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ubiquity worked fine here during the install btw
[12:54] <BluesKaj> from dvd
[12:55] <Riddell> anyone seen bug 1403914 ? it works fine in spanish for me
[12:55] <Riddell> I'll try russian next I guess
[12:56] <yofel> Riddell: didn't happen with german, but I didn't change the autodetected setting
[13:14] <yofel> hm, we should make the pager show the desktop on click by default
[13:14] <yofel> that way it's not completely useless
[13:15] <sitter> has anyone asked why the page is added by default to begin with?
[13:15] <yofel> upstream default?
[13:15] <sitter> well yes
[13:15] <sitter> but why :P
[13:15] <sitter> there's only one screen
[13:15] <sitter> yofel: I think your suggestion would make it a very reasonable default though
[13:16] <yofel> we always had that "show desktop" button, that way we at least have a replacement
[13:16] <sitter> i.e. it would act like the show desktop widget while also allowing people to add more virtual workspaces 
[13:16] <yofel> yup
[13:16] <sitter> someone should tell mgraesslin surely has an opinion ;)
[13:16] <mgraesslin> hmm?
[13:18] <mgraesslin> sitter: showing pager by default is fixed - not sure whether it's only in 5.3 or also in 5.2.2
[13:18] <sitter> mgraesslin: right now the pager widget is added by default but there is only one virtual workspace rendering it pretty useless. yofel suggested that maybe it could simply behave like the show-desktop widget (i.e. raise the desktop containment) thus comibining the usefulness of both
[13:18] <sitter> mgraesslin: .3 then
[13:18] <sitter> yofel: ^
[13:18] <mgraesslin> probably
[13:19] <sitter> perhaps it should be ripped out of kubuntu 15.04 as well, in its current form it certainly isn't very useful
[13:19] <yofel> right
[13:19] <mgraesslin> http://commits.kde.org/plasma-desktop/bdb4702179898f07d4301799b29d104506d6e534
[13:19] <sitter> Riddell, shadeslayer: cantor CI possibly fixed shortly (at least shouldn't be red anymore)
[13:20] <mgraesslin> sitter, yofel: change looks safe to me, so should be easily backportable
[13:20] <sitter> mgraesslin: thanks <3
[13:22] <sitter> pft, I spoke too soon about cantor
[13:24] <BluesKaj> sitter, I still like using the pager for different groups of applications per VD, and different backgrounds for each desktop would be nice , but I understand that's been dropped in favour of activities  , which is something i never use 
[13:27] <BluesKaj> and I think there are plenty of users who do the same as me 
[13:50] <shadeslayer> sitter: yay
[13:50] <BluesKaj> a new problem, desktop freezes without doing anything
[13:51] <sitter> yofel: patchy uploaded to queue
[13:52] <yofel> sitter++
[13:52] <BluesKaj> anybody else with nvidia gpu and driver experiencing desktop freeze that alt tab can't release?
[14:00] <Riddell> meh no fix up on the upgrade working it still wants to install baloo4 :(
[14:01] <sitter> hm?
[14:01] <Riddell> upgrade from utopic
[14:02] <Riddell> bug 1426132
[14:02] <Riddell> it's weird
[14:04] <sitter> Riddell: just add a force mgiration in the dist-upgrade tool thingy
[14:06] <sitter> actually
[14:06] <sitter> Riddell: aren't the runtimes interchangable anyway?
[14:07] <sitter> if so I think the best approach might be to add baloo4 transitional package to the baloo-kf5 source
[14:07] <sitter> then it should definitely transit
[14:12] <Riddell> sitter: talking to mvo
[15:17] <BluesKaj> the toolbar from muon has disappeared, as has the option to configure them
[15:17] <Riddell> uh oh
[15:18] <BluesKaj> would you like a screenshot , Riddell ?
[15:18] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ok
[15:19] <sgclark> Riddell: that is what soee has been saying
[15:19] <Riddell> right, so it's not just a freak 1 off :(
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  http://imagebin.ca/v/1wAHnUxUlIjM
[15:21] <Riddell> oh muon muon, not discover
[15:22] <Riddell> soee: you had issues with discover or muon muon?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> discover seems normal, but idon't use it much ...it's too GUI cartooney for my taste :)
[15:24] <Riddell> BluesKaj: can you report a bug to both launchpad and bugs.kde.org ? apol says he can look at it tonight
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:28] <Riddell> BluesKaj: any idea when this started to happen? did it work with plasma 5.2.1 ?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes , it started in beta 2
[15:48] <BluesKaj> my launchpad acct has reverted to it's old settings , so i'm struggling to change it to the latest profile ...strange thgis
[15:50] <KDDA> where does MySQL log its errors to?
[15:54] <sitter> Riddell: I think apol removed remnants of muon-installer, so it's possible that something got deleted that was shared between installer and muon
[15:55] <maelcum> my users seems to have no rights to /dev/dri/*, dev/snd/* and /dev/input/js*. that's kind of bad. i have heard that it's a known regression?
[15:55] <maelcum> a working workaround is to chmod o+rwx all of them
[15:55] <maelcum> (only works until next reboot)
[16:18]  * Riddell removes plasma 5 from kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[16:19] <Riddell> maelcum: um I've no idea I'm afraid, report a bug if you want me to try and keep track I guess
[16:27] <maelcum> kfunk: you have the same problem, right?
[16:28] <maelcum> maybe your case is less special than mine because i have a self compiled xorg/mesa *and* kf5 stack
[16:29] <KDDA> errrrr I give up!!  If I purge Kontact will I lose my config?
[16:30] <Riddell> KDDA: no, your config is local to the user and no a package config
[16:34] <KDDA> wasted 3 days trying to fix this and still cant figure it out
[16:35] <yofel> KDDA: the session mysql log should be in .local/share/akonadi/db_data/
[16:36] <KDDA> yofel: I cant see why it wont start
[16:37] <KDDA> cant even get the main MySQL server up
[16:38] <yofel> if the error isn't there, and you don't see one in the output from akonadictl, then I don't know where to look either
[16:38] <KDDA> the error is "15:51:51 UTC - mysqld got signal 11 ;"
[16:39] <yofel> that shouldn't be the only thing it prints...
[16:39] <KDDA> in /usr/sbin/mysqld
[16:39] <KDDA> but why
[16:41] <kfunk> maelcum: my problem is that SDDM doesn't start up when I boot 15.04 in systemd mode -- that issues just popped up a week ago or so.
[16:42] <kfunk> I think before we didn't use systemd by default, but I could be wrong
[16:42] <kfunk> can't start SDDM manually after getting to a VT either
[16:42] <maelcum> kfunk: have you checked the permissions on /dev/dri?
[16:42] <kfunk> nope
[16:43] <kfunk> I'll do next time I reboot
[16:43] <maelcum> fwiw sddm does start here, but if i don't change the permissions on /dev/dri* i get a kwin without 3d acceleration.
[16:52] <KDDA> ok so I found a log file saying it cant open the defaults file ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf which is there and opens for me
[17:12] <mparillo> Again? It is not on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds yet
[17:20] <Riddell> mparillo: it's all good I marked it as ready (although there's one more test would be nice to have done)
[17:45] <__danmac__> hi guys hope you are all well :) i heard i might be able to snag a URL for beta-2 here? i dont see it on the cdimage server yet. thx :)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> __danmac__, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds/91007/downloads
[17:50] <__danmac__> thx man i had no idea about this site
[17:51] <__danmac__> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/336/builds/91032/downloads FYI
[17:52] <__danmac__> oh wait it links to the cdimage server ya i know about these haha :)
[17:53] <__danmac__> think I will go with this anyway, don't want to wait any more haha thx :)
[17:57] <Riddell> __danmac__: we're still testing beta 2 candidates (which are just normal daily-live images) would be great if you can help test it
[17:57] <__danmac__> mate I'm all over it :)
[17:58] <__danmac__> good luck with the release, you guys do a fantastic job, been a kubuntu user for years
[17:58] <Riddell> thanks :)
[17:59] <darthanubis> running great for me here
[17:59] <darthanubis> chromium does play flash but firefox does
[18:00] <BluesKaj> use chrome instead
[18:08] <__danmac__> gotta say I'm not a massive fan of chrome, if firefox works I'm happy, hopefully the KDE guys will get round to improving firefox integration in the coming months
[18:09] <darthanubis> firefox's intergration looks fine to me
[18:09] <soee_> hiho, im back
[18:09] <soee_> final beta released ?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> soee_, beta 2
[18:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:10] <soee_> yes 2 and final :D
[18:10] <BluesKaj> ok is 2 final ?
[18:10]  * Sho_ wonders why "KDE guys" have anything to do with Firefox integration
[18:15] <__danmac__> well whether it's KDE guys or Firefox guys, would be nice to see a little improvement
[18:17] <__danmac__> although quite frankly if VLC would be able to open files from a samba share on KDE that would make me happy enough :)
[18:23] <__danmac__> hmm just fired it up (build 91032) and got minor graphics corruption around the window decorations, had the same on 14.04.1, i assume because nouveau :(
[18:26] <mparillo> Riddell: The missing 32-bit test is the OEM build. Do we have OEMs?
[18:34] <mparillo> Also, I see you updated the bug list on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu Can experienced users get around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo-kf5/+bug/1426132 If not, would you like me to add a note saying this does not work in the Upgrading from 14.10 section?
[18:37] <ahoneybun> what about this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[18:49] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I'm also a KDE developer
[18:49] <ovidiu-florin> mostly just patches fo rnow
[19:02] <Riddell> mparillo: OEM is known not to be very functional so I don't care for now
[19:02] <Riddell> mparillo: yes pleae add a note saying "don't upgrade"
[19:04] <mparillo> Will do. When I asked Do we have OEMs, it sounded to me as if people create Kubuntu DVD masters and load them on PCs for sale.
[19:04] <Riddell> ahoneybun: bug 1428877 is a ubiquity bug and probably not kubuntu specific.  alas there is no ubiquity maintainer at the moment
[19:04] <Riddell> mparillo: yes, the only oem I know of is https://system76.com/ but there may be others
[19:13] <ahoneybun> I see good point
[19:13] <ahoneybun> Riddell: mparillo zareason, thinkpenguin
[19:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I'll be trying to upgrade from 14.10
[19:20] <ahoneybun> or maybe a clean install
[19:25] <Riddell> ahoneybun: if doing an upgrade make sure you use archive.ubuntu.com  for the latest packages
[19:28] <ahoneybun> I just ran the command kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[19:33] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Fingers crossed.
[19:34] <ahoneybun> mparillo: I just took a daily image and going to try it out
[19:35] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you have a list of people who work on Kubuntu and their roles (for the Kubuntu Team page)
[19:35] <Riddell> ahoneybun: no and it's kindae dangerous making one because community is by it's nature fluid
[19:35] <mparillo> ahoneybun: OK, and thanks for the pointer to zareason and think penguin. I did not know they used our OEM images. Alas, in the USA, the windows tax is actually negative. Bloatware reduces the cost of a consumer-grade system.
[19:35] <Riddell> ahoneybun: just take some examples if you like
[19:36] <Riddell> including yourself :)
[19:36] <ahoneybun> I have a few people, but I don't want to forget the some people who I might not know
[19:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I need a lot of practice before akademy XD
[19:37] <ahoneybun> just so everyone knows, chromuim with chromecast works in Linux :)
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: ping
[19:39] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: hm?
[19:39] <ovidiu-florin> the download page on our current site uses some Javascript
[19:39] <ovidiu-florin> do you remember where that Javascript is stored?
[19:39] <KDDA> yofel: I am trying to run mysql from the command line and even though the file exits and I can edit it as local user Im getting the following error "Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted
[19:39] <KDDA> "
[19:39] <yofel> right, didn't we copy that from your romanian site?
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> I believe so
[19:40] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: I'm pretty sure it's inline in the post
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> chrome inspector doesn't show it
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> found it
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[19:49] <ahoneybun> bbl testing image
[19:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Any ideas why kde-telepathy ppa stopped getting updates?
[20:00] <ovidiu-florin> where's lordivader?
[20:00] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[20:01] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[20:01] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I have a legal wuestion
[20:01] <ovidiu-florin> question*
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> check out the bottom of the footer of this sexy new website: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> the copyright
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> is it fine?
[20:02] <Riddell> IANAL, I just consider myself able to understand the basics of legal issues which for some reason most geeks don't
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> do I need to add/change something
[20:02] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: Please add a year and a license or something
[20:03] <Quintasan> It makes no sense otherwise
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> Copy the one from the old site?
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> © 2010 - 2015 The Kubuntu community. Icons copyright of Oxygen icon theme Kubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonica
[20:03] <Riddell> "Copyright © Kubuntu " a licence would be nice
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> and add Breeeze
[20:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: nah that's overkill
[20:03] <ovidiu-florin> what do you mean by license?
[20:03] <Riddell> what's the copying licence on the website
[20:04] <Quintasan> Yes, makes more sense. We also need a license for our "content"
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> I'm technical
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> what do I write?
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> what do I do?
[20:04] <Quintasan> Hmm, generally I think some sort of Creative Commons would be sensible for website content
[20:05] <Quintasan> I think that formally that would be a Council decision or something
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> can you guys give the text I can write in there? I suck at leagal stuff
[20:06] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: 2010 - 2015 © The Kubuntu community.
[20:06] <Quintasan> Should suffice for now.
[20:06] <ahoneybun> Riddell: the new installer looks good
[20:06] <ahoneybun> The clear bar is not large enough for some reason though
[20:06] <ahoneybun> Odd
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ done
[20:07] <Riddell> Contents Copyright 2005 - <?php date('Y'); ?> Kubuntu devs, licence <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">CC BY-SA 4.0</a>, icons Copyright Breeze artists <a href="https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze">GPL 2+</a>. Kubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Ltd.
[20:07] <Riddell> maybe
[20:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: clear bar?
[20:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: the bottom bar holding the icons
[20:08] <ahoneybun> Maybe scale the icons more
[20:11] <ahoneybun> A icon is missing
[20:15] <ahoneybun> Sddm worked this time from a clean install
[20:27] <KDDA> yes yes yes yesssssssssssssss
[20:28] <ahoneybun> everything installed well
[20:28] <Riddell> KDDA: ooh?
[20:28] <soee> Riddell: do you know why we dont have send to phone entry in context menu in dolphin  ?
[20:29] <soee> Riddell: look @ screen http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/kde-connect-android-notifications-linux-desktop
[20:29] <KDDA> Riddell: been fighting with akonadi for 3 days, just got it working!
[20:29] <KDDA> Im rather happy!
[20:29] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: php isn't allowed in content from Wordpress
[20:29] <ovidiu-florin> we have to use JavaScript, so: Contents Copyright 2005 - <script>document.write(new Date().getFullYear());</script> Kubuntu devs, licence <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">CC BY-SA 4.0</a>, icons Copyright Breeze artists <a href="https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze">GPL 2+</a>. Kubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Ltd.
[20:31] <soee> Riddell: my fault, forget what i wrote
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell:  Quintasan check it out now: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:32] <Riddell> lovely
[20:34] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: better way would be to use a short code
[20:34] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: see here - http://snippets.khromov.se/current-year-shortcode-for-printing-copyright-notice-in-wordpress/
[20:35] <KDDA> keeps it server side, so if the client year is wrong or browser has JS disabled it will still display
[20:36] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I was missing a Icon in the installer
[20:37] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's your slideshow :)
[20:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: just letting you know since there is a freeze going on
[20:37] <Riddell> bug 1429475
[20:37] <ahoneybun> I'm working on grabing the code to work on it
[20:38] <Riddell> no, bug 1436949
[20:39] <ahoneybun> yea it was the last slide
[20:39] <soee> confirmed
[20:41] <ahoneybun> Riddell: on it :) soee
[20:42] <soee> cool :)
[20:44] <soee> there was also one small issue that might be related to VB configuration
[20:44] <soee> after installation was finished, there was a small window with info text and a button to reboot
[20:44] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: I'm doing something wrong: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:44] <soee> this button had light background and white unreadable font
[20:45] <soee> when it gets focus on it, all was ok
[20:45] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: you need to edit the themes functions.php
[20:46] <KDDA> add that wee bit of code
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> done that
[20:46] <KDDA> are you sure its in the current/installed theme?
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[20:48] <KDDA> was the functions.php already there or did you make it?
[20:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: all of those scripts are missing things
[20:48] <ahoneybun> well I am
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: it was there
[20:49] <KDDA> strange :/
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: here's the source: https://github.com/ovidiub13/KubuntuWordpressTheme/blob/master/functions.php
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> I added it at the end
[20:50] <KDDA> I cant see the close php tags at the end of that file?
[20:50] <KDDA> ?>
[20:50] <KDDA> can you check you have that?
[20:51] <tuv0k> did akonadi and kmail break for anybody
[20:51] <KDDA> tuv0k: YES!
[20:51] <tuv0k> specifically the change in mysql versioning?
[20:51] <tuv0k> thanks, nice to know its not just my system
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: the ending tags are not necessary
[20:52] <KDDA> tuv0k: what error is it throwing you?
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> and that's the exact file
[20:52] <tuv0k> is there a bug filed, a workaround?
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> that's our source for the theme
[20:52] <KDDA> tuv0k: would you private message me?
[20:52] <soee> ovidiu-florin: if i may suggest one thing, i would remove bg image from the section under top panel where page title is located
[20:52] <soee> also i woudl align page title to left
[20:53] <tuv0k> akonadi just won't start
[20:53] <tuv0k> I'll pasebin the report
[20:53] <KDDA> tuv0k: yes, I have the same thing
[20:53] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I have a good reason for not doing that and having better featured images
[20:53] <soee> oki
[20:53] <KDDA> it was complaining about not being able to open my config file
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> modern look, not '90s
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[20:54] <tuv0k> KDDA: http://pastebin.com/54bvrEKF
[20:55] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you remember what was on the last slide?
[20:55] <soee> ovidiu-florin: and seconf thing, i would give gigger font
[20:55] <soee> *bigger 
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> for the title?
[20:56] <soee> no no for content 
[20:56] <soee> now reading without zoomig page is hard
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> that I agree
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: any fixes for that?
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> the footer thing?
[20:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: nope
[20:58] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: should work!  Are you using a child theme or mod'ing the main theme files?
[20:58] <KDDA> tuv0k: can you try this command please "kcmshell4 kcm_akonadi"
[21:00] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I got one script to work but it shows nothing
[21:01] <tuv0k> KDDA: excellent! Akonadi failed, but I changed database backend to sqlite, and then akonadi statred and kmail resumes functionig,
[21:01] <tuv0k> thx!
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> soee: is 16 too big? take a look
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: no
[21:02] <KDDA> tuv0k: leave it with MySQL for a sec
[21:02] <soee> ovidiu-florin: no! i would say you are free to use even 18 :D
[21:02] <soee> but even with 16 is much metter than before
[21:03] <tuv0k> ok
[21:03] <KDDA> tuv0k: if you put AppArmour into complain mode using this command "sudo aa-complain mysqld"
[21:03] <soee> ovidiu-florin: h2 needs bigger font size
[21:03] <KDDA> tuv0k: does it start working?
[21:04] <soee> how is it possible that h2 has smaller size than h3 :O
[21:04] <KDDA> soee: CSS ;)
[21:04] <tuv0k> well, when I switched back yo mysql and restarted akondai, everything is normal again
[21:04] <KDDA> tuv0k: strange
[21:04] <tuv0k> i know
[21:05] <KDDA> I think its an AppArmour issue
[21:05] <KDDA> but I have tried so many things over this past few days, Im not sure what the real fix was!
[21:07] <tuv0k> thankful for your assistence in getting kmail back:)
[21:07] <tuv0k> bbl
[21:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: header sizes etc. worth checking http://typecast.com/blog/a-more-modern-scale-for-web-typography
[21:10] <KDDA> tuv0k: SQLite will be very slow if you have large mailboxes
[21:10] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also why not use Oxygen font for headers ? :)
[21:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10686170/
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> soee: care to get involved?
[21:12] <soee> ovidiu-florin: sure
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> what do you need?
[21:13] <soee> ovidiu-florin: how do you work on teh website now ? 
[21:13] <soee> for styles using sass/less ?
[21:13] <soee> compiling them on some remote ?
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> I have a plugin that allows me to alter the styles after the theme is applied.
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> I try to avoid having to modify source code of the theme or WP
[21:14] <soee> from Wp backend ?
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> but I do it when necessary
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> but only under git
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> soee: compiling? what compilation?
[21:14] <soee> yes that would be good to have some git acccess
[21:15] <soee> ovidiu-florin: sass/less files :)
[21:16] <__danmac__> I was just tinkering with woff files and suchlike only yesterday, converting font from kubuntu and putting on the site would be a cool touch haha :)
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> this is the first I hear of sass/less
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ^
[21:16] <__danmac__> but i'm too busy trying to make my geforce play ball with 15.04 atm :/
[21:16] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I'm not a web developer, I have some experiece, but this is not really my area of expertiese
[21:17] <soee> ovidiu-florin: they allow you to easier maintain styles, you can have file with variables that are used co generate style, you can use mixins, extend classess etc.
[21:19] <soee> ovidiu-florin: do you use git atm ?
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I'm trying to KIS
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> I use git to track the ghanges I've made to the WP theme
[21:20] <soee> kis ?
[21:20] <ovidiu-florin> Keep It Simple
[21:20] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: No to your not using a child theme, or No to your not modifying the main theme?
[21:21] <soee> ovidiu-florin: less/sass is all about easier maintenance ant shorten modificaton time 
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm not using a child theme
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm modifing the theme I use only if I absolutley have to
[21:21] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: any reason for that?
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: Bad previous experience with that functionality
[21:22] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: may I ask what/why?
[21:23] <ovidiu-florin> sure
[21:23] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried to use that, but I've found that most themes don't suport that
[21:23] <ovidiu-florin> or they support it very badly
[21:23] <ovidiu-florin> and everything breaks when using the child theme
[21:24] <KDDA> usually its the reverse :/
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> maybe I just got my share of bad luck
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> and picked the bad ones
[21:25] <KDDA> if the main theme is updated for some reason, it overwrites the files you changed and breaks it
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> that's why I keep it unde git
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> I hope it doesn't delete my .git
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> :-s
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee it seems to me you have some experience with WordPress and web development, why didn't you speak sooner?
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> we could have done so much more
[21:28] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: have my fingers in too many pies at the moment!
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: most of us do
[21:29] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i do not work with wordpress, but i am a webdeveloper :) i said it to the student that have been working on the website before
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee I try to keep track of everything in trello, please keep an eye on that
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> soee: bukai ?
[21:30] <soee> ovidiu-florin: yes
[21:30] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: dont want to step on anyones toes, for me personally I use child themes as I can override what I need to and if the main theme gets an update it all still works
[21:30] <__danmac__> I'm more back-end stuff and I don't touch PHP or WordPress on general principle but I do web-dev and happy to help
[21:30] <__danmac__> maybe can trade you for a solution to get my nvidia working on 15.04 :P
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA: I know
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> currently my changes are minor
[21:31] <KDDA> __danmac__ : what model?
[21:31] <__danmac__> KDDA: it's a geforce 7900GTX ... well it's a Quadro FX 2500M but basically a rebadged 7900GTX
[21:32] <__danmac__> nouveau drivers exhibit corruption, managed to get it installed even though i couldn't see any dialog box text the buttons appeared when i scrolled over them
[21:32] <KDDA> is your 15.04 install fresh or upgrade?
[21:32] <ahoneybun> yofel: ping
[21:33] <__danmac__> after install, it had installed the nvidia proprietary 304 drivers but kwin won't enable compositing - the install is about 2 hours old from today's daily
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee are you available this weekend to help me?
[21:34] <__danmac__> I don't mean to fill this place with tech support blabber though, I'm in #kubuntu also if you feel a change of venue is appropriate
[21:34] <__danmac__> appreciate any help as I have tried the more obvious stuff and getting nowhere :(
[21:35] <KDDA> well 15.04 is still in dev :)
[21:35] <soee> ovidiu-florin: im at home tomorrow and saturday, sunday i have flight to athens so i wont be afavilable till wednesday
[21:36] <__danmac__> yeah I only just got the laptop but tried a 14.04.1 live USB I had lying around, and that seems to have the same problem with nouveau ... not sure how the proprietary drivers fare as I only fired it up for a minute on live usb
[21:37] <KDDA> what happens when you boot with proprietary drivers installed?
[21:38] <KDDA> does it flash the NVidia splash screen?
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee this saturday, can we have a video chat at 14 UTC+2 ?
[21:39] <__danmac__> no I don't see the nvidia splash screen
[21:39] <soee> ovidiu-florin: you need to catch me first here, if ill be online, sure
[21:39] <tuv0k> KDDA: thanks for the headsup. swithcing back to mysql because I have gmail boxes
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> soee: that's not very helpful
[21:40] <KDDA> ovidiu-florin: Sorry Im busy most of this weekend
[21:40] <__danmac__> text-mode plymouth boot screen, then kde login screen ...
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> awesom
[21:40] <KDDA> but the login is corrupt?
[21:40] <__danmac__> no the corruption only occurs with nouveau
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee then can you leave us a list of your suggestions somewhere? Like a KDE note or another etherpad link?
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> and I'll do my best with all of them
[21:42] <ovidiu-florin> KDDA soee can you?
[21:42] <__danmac__> I tried setting O2 and doing kwin_x11 --replace which gave me a page of errors I can pastebin once it boots up again (just trying 304-updates now, hung at black screen after login)
[21:42] <soee> ovidiu-florin: yes, i will try to write down my suggestions tomorrow
[21:42] <__danmac__> but I don't mean to drag you guys into this on a dev channel, sorry
[21:43] <__danmac__> im trying to google but the results are thin on the ground as you would expect since not many people are using KDE 5 yet
[21:44] <KDDA> __danmac__  is your sddm enabled on boot?
[21:45] <ovidiu-florin> soee: thank you
[21:46] <__danmac__> sorry KDDA I'm having trouble logging in to it now, it's as default install I haven't messed with sddm or any of that, just had to power cycle it even reisub didnt help :/
[21:47] <__danmac__> I just got the thing so I will have a tinker with it ... maybe try with 14.04 first and see how I get on with that
[21:48] <KDDA> __danmac__ : Can I private message you?
[21:48] <__danmac__> sure mate absolutely
[21:51] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[21:51] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[21:52] <KDDA> good night ovidiu-florin
[21:53] <__danmac__> good night ovidiu-florin 
[22:00] <ahoneybun> Riddell: found the problem
[22:04] <Riddell> ooh?
[22:07] <ahoneybun> really was missing a icon
[22:08] <ahoneybun> also working on getting the background just right :)
[22:08] <ahoneybun> *an
[22:09] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ^
[22:22] <ahoneybun> http://i.imgur.com/ESkL9g0.png
[22:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely
[22:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: does it resize?
[22:31] <ahoneybun> Riddell: to a point
[22:31] <ahoneybun> was trying to make it at least 1080
[22:31] <ahoneybun> resize
[22:36] <yofel> ahoneybun: hm?
[22:37] <ahoneybun> yofel: got it now thanks
[22:40] <ahoneybun> bzr lock: lovely
[22:43] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10686561/
[22:44] <sitter_> ahoneybun: bzr help break-lock
[22:45] <ahoneybun> tried it nothing sitter_
[22:45] <sitter_> what's the output when you try to break the lock?
[22:45] <ahoneybun> uploading it to a new branch 
[22:47] <ahoneybun> nothing
[22:49] <ahoneybun> sitter_: Riddell https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/vivid/+merge/254320
[22:51] <Riddell> thanks ahoneybun, will get to it tomorrow
[22:51] <ahoneybun> np Riddell I'll still try to get the background to look good
[22:53] <sitter_> mh
[22:54] <sitter_> plasma just froze and crashed kwin on dragndrop in kickoff
[22:54] <sitter_> needs investigation tomorrow
[22:59] <mparillo> I have forgotton. When creating a Kubuntu.org news item, does save also publish?
[23:03] <sitter_> only if its status is set to publish IIRC
[23:03] <sitter_> ovidiu-florin: whatever happened to our wordpress site? xD
[23:06] <mparillo> Thank you sitter_ for giving me the confidence to save. News Kubuntu Vivid Beta 2 has been created. https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-vivid-beta-2 is available for corrections.
[23:07] <mparillo> But not published.
[23:11] <yofel> sitter_: coming along nicely ;) http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[23:12] <sitter_> such sexy
[23:19] <Riddell> anyone else unable to open kwallet from plasma-nm ?
[23:20] <__danmac__> cya guys thanks for the help and good luck with the continuing development and release :)
[23:21] <yofel> kwallet works for me. (As in I feel like I have to unlock it again for every application that wants to open it - kinda defeats the point)
[23:38] <ahoneybun> sitter_: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[23:39] <soee> soon will be 1 year since last skype update for linux .. fuuu microsoft
[23:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ooh nice :)
[23:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: duplication with KMail and Kontact? I think I'd scap KMail as it's just a part of Kontact
[23:40] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and maybe a screenie of the Plasma 5 desktop?
[23:42] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I would agree on both points
[23:42] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and we did get that request for Kexi and Krita to be added, just if you think it needs something else
[23:43] <ahoneybun> Riddell: oh that was for the feature tour?
[23:44] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yeah
[23:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: the feature tour goes over preinstalled apps
[23:45] <ahoneybun> unless we had a recommanded section
[23:47] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: you around to comment on this decision ? ^^
[23:49]  * ahoneybun loves Krunner more and more and more everyday
[23:49] <Riddell> thanks mparillo, I've added a note about upgrade to it
[23:50] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I just learned that I can open a device though Krunner :)
[23:52] <Riddell> you can do most everything through KRunner
[23:52] <ahoneybun> damn  awesome