[00:04] <untubuk> ciao a tutti
[00:05] <soee> 1IT
[00:05] <soee> !it
[00:06] <sfogliato> hello
[00:14] <Scunizi> I'm trying to get my external bluetooth touchpad working correctly. Currently "Touchpad Settings" says "Synaptics driver is not installed or is not used" and won't let me do any adjustments.  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lt 1.8.1-lubuntu1~bla bla is installed. Any ideas how to get the adjustments working?
[00:16] <untubuk> sorry ubottu
[00:16] <soee> untubuk: ubottu is just a bot :)
[00:16] <soee> !bot
[00:16] <untubuk> ahaha
[00:17] <untubuk> che figura
[01:05] <linuxguy> Hi Im having probs using latest kde plasma 5 live cd, if it helps i have a 64bit system and 1gb nvidia card, I just get a black screen :(
[04:25] <Tonius> hi!
[04:25] <Tonius> please help me
[04:26] <Tonius> I can`t save files in libre office through samba
[04:28] <Tonius> I have kubuntu 14.10, and libre office from official repo
[04:31] <Tonius> I mea nhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu repo
[04:32] <SporkWitch> Tonius: if i had to guess it's related to the reason you can't stream videos via smb either.  your choices are likely to either use an NFS or CIFS mount (if possible), or to copy the file, save locally, then copy it back.
[04:34] <Tonius> I can`t use something else, because smb servers under windows, it`s big corporative network
[04:34] <Tonius> Do you want say what it not possible?
[04:36] <SporkWitch> Tonius: i haven't dug into it myself, and only have other linux machines running smb to test again.  like i said, if i had to guess, i'd say it's related to why you can't stream video directly over the smb share either, at least on the linux side.
[04:36] <SporkWitch> Tonius: if i'm right, and it is like that, then no, it's not really possible without mounting it properly, instead of just in dolphin
[04:37] <Tonius> But why kate is can do this? (
[04:37] <Tonius> (with txt files)
[04:38] <SporkWitch> couldn't say, maybe someone else can help.  i definitely recommend googling it while waiting, though.  is it a new issue with 14.10? or did it exist in 14.04 as well?
[04:39] <valorie> linuxguy: please report that to the qa site
[04:40] <valorie> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[07:54] <reza> hi guys
[07:55] <reza> how can I run matlab in kubuntu
[07:55] <reza> ?
[08:57] <valorie> !info matlab
[08:57] <valorie> naturally
[08:57] <valorie> perhaps it runs in Wine
[09:01] <luc4> Hello! Is it possible to setup kubuntu to boot always with readonly root?
[09:04] <yossarianuk> hi do any mirrors have beta2 yet ?
[09:04] <yossarianuk> And if I just download the latest nightly would that essentially be the same
[09:05] <valorie> yossarianuk: I just saw an update posted
[09:05] <valorie> not sure about the mirrors
[09:06] <valorie> check the dates -- the daily and beta2 will be alike for one day I suppose
[09:13] <yossarianuk> valorie: cheers - I wasn't sure if any extra work/polish went in releasing a beta ....
[09:30] <yossarianuk> I can swee https://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/Beta2/Kubuntu#Getting_Kubuntu_15.04_Beta_2
[09:30] <yossarianuk> no iso yet.......
[10:04] <Riddell> yossarianuk: still needs testing
[10:04] <Riddell> all help appreciated
[10:17] <Tuf> hello all
[10:19] <yossarianuk> Riddell: i.e beta 2 still needs testing ?
[10:19] <Tuf> *Broken brain today... and yesterday, and the day before
[10:20] <Riddell> yossarianuk: yep
[10:20] <Riddell> Tuf: having a head injury sucks
[10:21] <yossarianuk> Riddell: I will test it as soon as I can see the .iso...
[10:21] <yossarianuk> I had an issue with nightly from 21st March  - UEFI boot loader wasn't added until I installed the second time
[10:21] <yossarianuk> (repeatable also)
[10:22] <Riddell> yossarianuk: join #kubuntu-devel if you want to help out
[10:24] <Tuf> does anyone know if there is there a CyanogenMod channel?
[10:26] <Tuf> oh nevermond its on Freenode
[10:26] <Tuf> -o +i
[10:37] <soee> good morning
[11:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:41] <rmrfchik> evaluating livecd vivid in virtualbox; when starting Personal Information Manager, all hangs
[12:42] <soee> rmrfchik: worked for me yesterday when i was testing isos
[13:15] <kodanda> anyone having experience with controllign QFilesystem watcher?
[13:15] <kodanda> Hi, I am using QFileSystemModel with "/" as the rootIndex for a treeView. I try to use the signal directoryLoaded() to wait until all the files are loaded into the model.  but it gets stuck at /proc and freezes the UI. Any ideas?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> kodanda, QFilesystem watcher?
[13:39] <kodanda> BluesKaj: QFileSystemWatcher, I mean. I have a QFileSystemModel which has "/" as its rootItem.
[13:39] <kodanda> BluesKaj: I read in the documentation that QFileSystemModel installs a QFilesystemWatcher at its root to watch for filesystem changes under this directory
[13:57] <BluesKaj> kodanda, sorry , I had a desktop freeze ...does rsync work on the root level or is that not relevant?
[13:59] <kodanda> BluesKaj, I have not tried rsync. BTW, how would these two be related in your opinion?
[14:00] <kodanda> BluesKaj, I tried rsync dry run on /proc; it was fine with no errors
[14:03] <kodanda> Blueskaj, normal rsync (without dry run) complains about some errors: "permission denied". but it does finish!
[14:03] <BluesKaj> kodanda, I'm not familiar with QFileSystemModel or Watcher , so I have no idea
[14:04] <kodanda> Oh, thanks anyway...
[14:04] <BluesKaj> I don't see it in the package manager
[14:08] <mparillo> Qupzilla is Qt based, but it is not part of KDE, right?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> mparillo, kde isn't mentioned anywhere in technical details or dependencies in muon
[14:20] <mparillo> BluesKaj: Thank you. I find firefox slow, konquerer unusable, and rekonk has been crashing too often. Qupzilla seems amazingly quick so far.
[14:23] <Simonious> I'd like to fool around with some web page stuff on my box, but I don't really want to own the www dir with my user account and I'd prefer not to have to use su priveledges except to set things up.  What's the 'right' way to let my user account do web dev playing on my linux VM?
[15:20] <noah123> Which version of Kubuntu is recommended?
[15:20] <noah123> For beginners ...
[15:22] <tetsuo_2501> hello
[15:28] <tetsuo_2501> imho i raccomand 14.10 stable with kde4
[15:29] <tetsuo_2501> recommend...
[15:29] <Riddell> unless you want to help us track bugs in 15.04 beta 2 :)
[15:30] <tetsuo_2501> for a beginner?
[15:30] <Riddell> depends if the beginner likes a steep learning curve or not :)
[15:31] <tetsuo_2501> :D
[15:47] <noah123> Plasma 4, tetsuo_2501 ?
[15:47] <noah123> Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 4?
[15:52] <noah123> And if that's the recommended, what is the download link?
[15:59] <noah123> ;D
[16:15] <sfogliato> Hello
[16:16] <Riddell> hi sfogliato!
[16:16] <Riddell> noah123: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[16:26] <noah123> direcy link, Riddell
[16:26] <noah123> direct*
[16:30] <sfogliato> Is anyone using Plasma 5? How stable is it?
[16:33] <yossarianuk> sfogliato: pretty damn stable
[16:34] <yossarianuk> you need to test with 15.04
[16:34] <yossarianuk> the old plasma/next repo for 14.10 is broken and will not be fixed
[16:37] <rysh> Using 15.04 now ... It's ok ... had some minor problems. ... boot hanged -> had to systemctl enable sddm ... plasma crashed today when changing wallpaper ... but auto restarted  ... np
[16:40] <sfogliato> thanks for the info. I use kubuntu for work... maybe I will hold off just yet before making the version jump ;)
[16:40] <rysh> yeah, in that case I woould recommend that too
[16:49] <BluesKaj> hey MoonUnit`
[16:53] <MoonUnit`> hi BluesKaj
[17:27] <__danmac__> hi guys :) hope you are all well :) final beta is out today? anyone got an idea of when?
[17:27] <yossarianuk> today hopefully
[17:28] <yossarianuk> is there not going to be a final RC also ?
[17:28] <__danmac__> ya i just got a new laptop and im dying for it to release
[17:28] <__danmac__> not as far as i know
[17:29] <__danmac__> oh actually yeah, april 16th
[17:29] <__danmac__> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[17:29] <__danmac__> release is on 23rd tho, so i wouldnt get too excited about that
[17:32] <__danmac__> guess i will go back to spamming F5 on cdimage server then :P
[17:33] <rww> or just download a daily image?
[17:34] <__danmac__> ya but i know what will happen, i will blow 1.2 gig downloading a daily, and right after the download finishes, beta 2 will be out :P
[17:35] <__danmac__> not sure how much difference there is between yesterday's daily, and the beta-2 but i will probably install and run it for quite some time, so im playing it safe
[17:36] <__danmac__> ish
[17:36] <__danmac__> :)
[17:37] <rysh> then just do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ... and be happy :-)
[17:38] <__danmac__> to be fair, there's probably no difference between daily and beta-2 but will see when the drive from this new laptop finishes wiping ...
[17:38] <__danmac__> i did hear of some issues if you pick a non-US timezone in the installer though, hoping they've nailed that
[17:44] <__danmac__> anyone running 15.04 here as a daily driver?
[17:44] <__danmac__> or am i better off in the offtopic channel for that
[17:44] <BluesKaj> __danmac__, if you ask in #kubuntu-devel you'll probly get the url for kubuntu 15.04 beta 2, if that's what you're after
[17:45] <__danmac__> oooo thx bud rgr dat
[17:45] <darthanubis> __danmac__: I am. #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <__danmac__> cool how are you getting along with it? i tried it in a VM a month or two ago, but this is the first time I'm trying it on bare metal
[17:47] <__danmac__> it was a bit flakey in VirtualBox, mainly graphics related, changing the size of the window caused all sorts of problems
[17:47] <darthanubis> It's been a little buggy but nothing show stopping
[17:47] <darthanubis> It would not install to my Virtualbox, and the upgrade from 14.10 was sloppy
[17:47] <darthanubis> so I just installed from daily build to bare metal
[17:48] <BluesKaj> VB has issues with neta 2
[17:48] <__danmac__> wicked :) i can handle that, think i will risk btrfs too at this point, 14.04 btrfs was terrible but from experience at least the 3.18 kernel is much more stable
[17:48] <BluesKaj> beta2
[17:48] <__danmac__> yeah it's a shame but virtualbox doesn't seem to get much love under oracle, i still cant even get hardware acceleration under kde 4
[17:49] <__danmac__> vmware was fine on kde 4 but haven't tried it with 5
[17:50] <BluesKaj> qemu-kvm might cut it
[17:51] <BluesKaj> windows just doesn't network too well on qemu, but I haven't tried any linux OSs
[17:51] <drw> I've been using 15.04 on my laptop regularly now for about a month. They're some bugs I have encountered, but they are KDE bugs, not distro specific ones, generally
[17:52] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 has some problems for sure , it's still too green
[17:53] <drw> I am liking it though
[17:53] <drw> Wasn't sure about the new look initially, but it has definitely grown on me
[17:54] <__danmac__> I really like the look of it, they've done a fantastic job
[17:54] <BluesKaj> i miss the VD separate backgrounds
[17:54] <__danmac__> KDE 4 looks a bit long in the tooth now
[17:54] <drw> __danmac__: yeah it does
[17:54] <__danmac__> I'm sure they will get round to adding all the bits and bobs we've come to know and love, it's still early days
[17:55] <BluesKaj> still have 14.10 on the other hdd, hanging on to it as long as possible
[17:55] <__danmac__> and I'm so glad they have stuck to common sense and the KDE philosophy rather than WOOP TRENDY
[17:55] <__danmac__> like so many desktops these days
[17:56] <BluesKaj> they've dropped and are sonsidering getting rid of the pager/VDs
[17:56] <BluesKaj> considering
[17:57] <__danmac__> wow, is that because windows 10 will have that? haha
[17:58] <BluesKaj> dunno anything about W10
[17:59] <BluesKaj> still on 7 here :)
[17:59] <BluesKaj> when I use it
[18:00] <__danmac__> yeah same here, some stuff just can't run on linux, but i do 99% of my work on linux, all server stuff now
[18:00] <__danmac__> and i used to be a massive microsoft fan back in the days of XP and Win2003
[18:00] <__danmac__> even didn't mind vista, but when Win2008 server came out, i knew it was all over
[18:01] <__danmac__> anyone who trusts their infrastructure to that slapped together piece of shit deserves the pain
[18:01] <__danmac__> and then 2012 server with the LOLLERSKATES UI or whatever they called it ... give me a break ...
[18:02] <BluesKaj> not a server user per se , altho this old pc acts as a media server to our A/V system :)
[18:04] <__danmac__> a friend of mine did the same, another ex-microsoftie, his recent conversion is going well, brothers
[18:04] <__danmac__> now it's all raspberry pi's and python and even freebsd at his house haha :)
[18:05] <__danmac__> what can I say, I showed him ZFS ;)
[18:07] <BluesKaj> freebsd and gento are for ppl who are into hair shirts and self flaggelation :-)
[18:07] <vladimir> :D
[18:07] <BluesKaj> err gentoo
[18:08] <__danmac__> ahahah ;)
[18:10] <__danmac__> not running a freebsd box right now, unless you count the pfsense box i'm running, i have a lot of respect for freebsd though
[18:11] <__danmac__> and not really into self-flaggelation but if someone of the opposite sex is doing it then that's ok, but i digress
[18:11] <__danmac__> don't mean to let you all in on more than you care to know about me ahahah
[18:11] <darthanubis> too late
[18:12] <BluesKaj> I ran freebsd a while back , it was ok ..nothing special IMO
[18:13] <__danmac__> it's not the magic bullet for everything, but it does have some features that make it more useful than linux under some situations
[18:13] <__danmac__> netflix use it heavily for good reason
[18:13] <__danmac__> and ZFS is quite frankly a gorgeous creation
[18:14] <__danmac__> linux is only just catching up in a lot of areas, for instance until recently linux didn't really have an answer for jails, or a decent "next-gen" filesystem
[18:52] <sparasite> Can I create an extended partition using cfdisk and create the Kubuntu partitions in there?
[18:52] <sparasite> using cfdisk
[18:53] <__danmac__> hi sparasite, the installer will allow you to create or modify partitions, maybe easier than using cfdisk
[18:54] <sparasite> It doesn't allow creation of extended partitions
[18:54] <sparasite> that
[18:54] <sparasite> that's only possible in cfdisk*
[18:55] <sparasite> Can I create an extended partition using cfdisk and create the Kubuntu partitions in there?
[18:58] <sparasite> would that be fine? Cause I have 3 partitions already
[18:58] <BluesKaj> sparasite, try gparted, it allows extended/logical partition creation
[18:59] <sparasite> Ok, so can I create an extended partition using GParted and have Kubuntu on it?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> sparasite, yes
[18:59] <sparasite> BluesKaj: What partitions shall I create in it? (And shall I create the partitions in installer or Gparted?)
[19:00] <__danmac__> sorry sparasite was afk
[19:00] <sparasite> Ok
[19:00] <__danmac__> you can definitely make extended partitions using the installer
[19:00] <sparasite> How?
[19:00] <__danmac__> when you click create you should get the option to create primary or extended
[19:00] <Walex> sparasite: the installer works like all installers in two phases for "partitions"...
[19:01] <__danmac__> urrr maybe it's called "logical" but i'm pretty sure those are the same thing
[19:01] <sparasite> It's logical or parimary
[19:01] <sparasite> primary*
[19:01] <Walex> sparasite: first it creates the "partitions", then it assigns mount points to them.
[19:01] <sparasite> Is logical same as extended?
[19:01] <__danmac__> yeah i believe so
[19:01] <sparasite> Because it doesn't work with installer
[19:01] <Walex> sparasite: if you create the partitions before the installer, or whatever, you can skip the phase where it creates "partitions" and go dirtectly to assign mount points.
[19:02] <sparasite> Ok
[19:02] <__danmac__> i'll tell you in a few minutes i just installed with 1 primary and 1 logical
[19:02] <sparasite> Ok, can I create the extended in GParted also?
[19:02] <Walex> sparasite: "logical same as extended?" strictly speaking yes, but in a sense that most installers ignore. The practical answer is "YES"
[19:03] <__danmac__> yes you can create the partitions in whatever tool you want, but the installer will do the same thing anyway
[19:03] <Walex> sparasite: you can only create a single "extended" partition, and then you can create many "logical" partitions within it.
[19:03] <BluesKaj> sparasite, my method is to create the partitions with gparted , for example / and /home and even swap , then i just choose the moutpoints with the ubiquity installer using manual partitioning
[19:03] <Walex> sparasite: traditionally the "extended" partitions must be number 4.
[19:03] <sparasite> I see
[19:04] <Walex> sparasite: then all the "logical" partitions that you create within it are numbered 5 or greater.
[19:04] <sparasite> BluesKaj: Is 80 GB unallocated space in an extended partitions enough?
[19:04] <sparasite> to install
[19:04] <BluesKaj> plenty
[19:04] <soee_> sparasite: hey, so you didn't installed it yesterday ?
[19:04] <sparasite> What partitions do I need?
[19:05] <sparasite> BluesKaj
[19:05] <BluesKaj> sparasite, as I posted above
[19:05] <sparasite> Ok, how big should every be?
[19:05] <sparasite> swap, /, and /home
[19:06] <soee_> swap ~ 4-6 GB for you, / ~ 20GB, /home - rest
[19:06] <sparasite> Ok thank you
[19:06] <sparasite> So root shall not be around 70 GB?
[19:07] <Walex> sparasite: usually 'swap' is not necessary, '/' between 20GB and 40GB depending how much stuff you want to install (even less than 20Gb for a non-desktop), and /home the rest as <soee> says.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> pk too many cooks
[19:07] <sparasite> Ok, but I want some swap
[19:07] <BluesKaj> 20G is too bif IMO 15is enough for /
[19:07] <BluesKaj> big
[19:07] <sparasite> Is 20 GB too big? Won't it work?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> 15G for / , swap should be equal to or abit larger than your RAM and the rest goes for the /home
[19:08] <Walex> sparasite: it is usually better to separate "Ubuntu" stuff from "your" stuff, so you can reinstall or modify "ubuntu" stuff independently of "your" stuff.
[19:08] <Walex> BluesKaj: but we are mostly agreeing...
[19:08] <sparasite> Walex: ?
[19:08] <sparasite> BluesKaj: So 60 GB for /home? xD
[19:08] <Walex> sparasite: "ubuntu" stuff => '/', "your" stuff -> '/home'
[19:08] <soee_> sparasite: this is how i have it on my lap: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/26/workspace18.png
[19:09] <BluesKaj> sparasite, yes , 60G is good
[19:09] <sparasite> Ok, so 6 GB swap, / 15 GB, and /home 60 GB and all with gparted?
[19:09] <sparasite> Thanks soee_
[19:09] <soee_> as you see i have already ~ 15 GB used on /
[19:09] <soee_> so imo, you shoudl set 20 GB
[19:10] <soee_> i do not use swap, as i have enough ram
[19:10] <Walex> soee_: or even bigger... Depends on what one wants to install, how many desktop environments, how much documentation, ...
[19:10] <soee_> Walex: true
[19:10] <Walex> sparasite: for example development packages take a lot of space often enough, if you want to compile programs etc.
[19:10] <soee_> Walex: but he has only 80 gb to use for all, so 20 seems resonable
[19:11] <sparasite> I can have 100 GB also
[19:11] <sparasite> If that's the case...
[19:11] <sparasite> I just need to shrink the C: some GB's more
[19:11] <sparasite> soee_: I have 4 GB RAM
[19:11] <Walex> sparasite: <BluesKaj> is perfectly right that 15GB is amply sufficient for a desktop, but that's for a fairly "lean" desktop. A server can be installed in less than 5GB...
[19:12] <BluesKaj> soee_, he 's not going to fill up his / partition even at 15
[19:12] <soee_> sparasite: i know, thats why BluesKaj suggested max 6 GB swap for it but imo its to much
[19:12] <soee_> set ~ 4 GB
[19:12] <sparasite> soee_: so 20 GB root, 4 GB swap, and the rest of the 80 GB /home?
[19:12] <soee_> sparasite: sure, BluesKaj agree ^ ?
[19:13] <sparasite> lol xD
[19:13] <Walex> sparasite: the differences here are not very big...
[19:13] <soee_> Walex: +1
[19:13] <soee_> sparasite: kubuntu will work, trust me :)
[19:13] <sparasite> Ok I will use that
[19:13] <BluesKaj> I'm in no mood to quibble , just making sure there's room for media data etc
[19:13] <sparasite> Shall all paritions be logical and formatted?
[19:13] <soee_> :D
[19:14] <sparasite> ;D
[19:14] <Walex> BluesKaj: sparasite: you can also mount the NTFS/MS-Windows partitions and put stuff in subdirectories there.
[19:14] <soee_> sparasite: set / and /home to ext4 and mark to format
[19:14] <Walex> 'ext4'???
[19:15] <sparasite> not format swap?
[19:15] <Walex> I am a fan of JFS or XFS, but admittedly 'ext4' is the "safe" choice. But it is a quibble.
[19:15] <Walex> sparasite: swap actually has to be formatted too.
[19:15] <sparasite> soee_: was the extended partition created in gparted? (on your pic)
[19:16] <BluesKaj> sparasite, yes format to linux swap
[19:16] <sparasite> Ok and this should be done in gparted? or installer?
[19:16] <sparasite> the formattation
[19:16] <soee_> sparasite: nah, i have created free space in windoes, than setup during installaion i think
[19:16] <sparasite> the extended partition, soee?
[19:16] <sparasite> the format*
[19:16] <sparasite> some lines up
[19:17] <BluesKaj> this is where we disagree , it's alot easier to install after setting the partitons up in gparted IMO
[19:17] <sparasite> So the partitions and the extended shall be created in gparted, formatted in gparted, and the mount point set in installer?
[19:18] <sparasite> BluesKaj
[19:18] <soee_> BluesKaj: will the Partition manager from live session work here ?
[19:18] <sparasite> Yes soee
[19:18] <sparasite> I think so
[19:19] <soee> sparasite: than boot live session, run partition manager
[19:19] <soee> create all desired partitions, than run installer
[19:19] <sparasite> BluesKaj, was the message some lines up correct? "So the partitions and the extended shall be created in gparted, formatted in gparted, and the mount point set in installer?"
[19:20] <sparasite> Oh
[19:20] <sparasite> partition manager?
[19:20] <sparasite> cfdisk?
[19:20] <soee> KDE Patition Manager
[19:20] <soee> the one on my screen, it is by default available in system
[19:21] <soee> Menu -> System -> KDE Partition Manager
[19:21] <soee> or from krunner: KDE Partition Manager
[19:21] <sparasite> Yeah ok
[19:21] <linuxguy> Hi, are there any boot codes needed to bboot KDE plasma5 with an nvidia card?
[19:21] <sparasite> soee: So I shall create the partitions (extended and logical) in KDE partition manager, and format and set mount points in installer?
[19:22] <sparasite> correct? ;D
[19:23] <soee> just create partition in partitions manager, do rest in installer (mountpoints etc.)
[19:23] <soee> just do it! :)
[19:23] <soee> e can spend next 2 days talking how to do stuff but best way is to try it :)
[19:23] <sparasite> so not format in partition manager`
[19:24] <soee> skip it if not required, you can format from installer
[19:24] <soee> doesn't matter, just start doing it ! :D
[19:24] <sparasite> ok
[19:25] <linuxguy> !nvidia
[19:25] <sparasite> 20 GB in MB?
[19:25] <sparasite> what is that?
[19:25] <soee> 20*1024
[19:26] <soee> http://www.convertunits.com/from/GB/to/MB
[19:26] <BluesKaj> linuxguy, which kubuntu?
[19:28] <linuxguy> BluesKaj, sorry Kubuntu 15.10 plasma 5, I just get  a black screen, same if I used norman 15.10
[19:28] <BluesKaj> too many guests , choose a nick pls
[19:28] <soee> linuxguy: after login ?
[19:28] <sparasite> soee: should /home and root be ext4?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> err 14.10 or 15.04 , linuxguy?
[19:29] <soee> sparasite: thats the most common filesystem i think, yes
[19:29] <sparasite> Ok
[19:30] <BluesKaj> linuxguy, run lsb_release -a to see which kubuntu version
[19:30] <sparasite> soee: how can It already be used after the apply?
[19:31] <sparasite> all the partitions...
[19:31] <soee> what ?
[19:31] <sparasite> some space on the new partitions is used
[19:31] <sparasite> about 17 GiB
[19:31] <sparasite> no, 1 GB
[19:32] <soee> on what partition ?
[19:33] <sparasite> on /home; 1 GB, and on root; 493 MB
[19:33] <sparasite> can I ignore it?
[19:34] <sparasite> ;(
[19:34] <sparasite> or is it wrong?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> sparasite, have you formatted them yet ?
[19:35] <soee> but it shows you how much will be used after system installation ?
[19:35] <sparasite> no BluesKaj , I will do it in installer
[19:35] <sparasite> It says this on "Used" in Partition Manager (KDE)
[19:36] <BluesKaj> sparasite, the don't worry , formatting wil wipe any data
[19:36] <sparasite> ok ;)
[19:38] <sparasite> when I restarted Kubuntu I accidently pressed f9 when it turned off and it was a fast error message some seconds
[19:38] <BluesKaj> personally i don't trust the ubiquity partitoner unless there's no other OS on the disk
[19:38] <sparasite> I have another OS
[19:38] <sparasite> on the PC
[19:39] <sparasite> can I ignore the error message?
[19:39] <soee> what error message ?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> well ,just do what the guys told you to , sparasite ...
[19:40] <sparasite> the one when I accidently pressed f9 on restart, soee
[19:41] <sparasite> anyway I will ignore it
[19:41] <sparasite> bye!
[19:41] <soee> how can we tell you if you can ignore it if we dont know the error text -.-
[19:41] <BluesKaj> we all find our fav methods after some experience with linux ...prepartitioning has become one of mine
[19:42] <soee> BluesKaj: +1 and he after some time will fond his own methods he prefer :)
[19:42] <sparasite> soee: I didn't see it, it was just 1 sec
[19:42] <BluesKaj> sparasite, just ignore it '
[19:42] <sparasite> Ok xD
[19:44] <sparasite> What mount point shall swap partition have?
[19:44] <sparasite> none?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> none
[19:44] <sparasite> k
[19:45] <BluesKaj> my hand holding patience is at an end :)
[19:47] <soee> :)
[19:53] <BluesKaj> hmm, Konversation crashed , that's first on 15.04
[19:54] <soee> BluesKaj: never had konversation crash
[19:54] <Guest50962> Didn't catch one thing, should both root, /home, and swap be formatted in installer?
[19:55] <soee> if those partitions are empty are already have filesystem you want than not,
[19:55] <soee> *and
[19:55] <BluesKaj> Guest50962, just / and /home are fine
[19:55] <Guest50962> not swap?
[19:55] <rberg_> does konversation store plain text logs? I hate that quassel stores them in sqlite
[19:55] <soee> rberg_: i think yes
[19:56] <BluesKaj> ber  yes it does
[19:56] <Guest50962> BluesKaj: not swap?
[19:56] <rberg_> awesome! last question does it support OTR?
[19:56] <soee> BluesKaj: do you alo have the same that konversaton in Vivid stores logs in ~/logs ?
[19:56] <Guest50962> better you ask in #konversatopn, rberg_
[19:56] <BluesKaj> if you already set it as swap that's it's format
[19:56] <Guest50962> I mean formatting
[19:56] <Guest50962> clean
[19:57] <soee> just set it to swap
[19:57] <soee> and proceed
[19:57] <Guest50962> what partitions should be formatted?
[19:57] <Guest50962> cleaned
[19:57] <BluesKaj>  / and /home
[19:58] <Guest50962> not swap, BluesKaj ?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> no swap is swap ..it formats when you set it as swap
[19:58] <Guest50962> and mount points shall be set in installer?
[19:58] <Guest50962> or kde partition manager?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> installer
[19:59] <Guest50962> BluesKaj: I need to select "Format" if I want to format it?
[19:59] <Guest50962> swap
[20:00] <BluesKaj> do it manually , use manual; partitioning, it's easier to correct if there's a mistake
[20:00] <Guest50962> thats not what I mean...
[20:00] <Guest50962> i mean cleaning (formatting)
[20:00] <Guest50962> BluesKaj: I need to select "Format" if I want to format swap?
[20:00] <soee> yes mark the checkbox to format
[20:00] <__danmac__> you can't format swap
[20:01] <Guest50962> okay, so if it's possible I shall slect format on root, /home and swap?
[20:01] <Guest50962> select*
[20:02] <__danmac__> yep if you dont have anything in those filesystems you want to keep
[20:02] <serega527> hello! does someone help me?
[20:02] <Guest50962> ok!!
[20:02] <Guest50962> thanks
[20:02] <rberg_> true, you mkswap not mkfs..
[20:02] <soee> Guest50962: you are asking teh same thing like 2 hours already
[20:02] <Guest50962> bye!
[20:03] <BluesKaj> too much inf .from too many cooks ...he's confused
[20:08] <travnewmatic> i have a question about KDE connect, i can go from phone to kubuntu, but i've got no option to send in the contextual menu on my desktop
[20:10] <__danmac__> sorry travnewmatic i never used KDE connect, it's fairly new, looks cool though :)
[20:11] <__danmac__> can anyone hazard a guess why my transparent konsole is not working on 15.04 ?
[20:13] <__danmac__> hmmm works in xrender but not in opengl 2.0 ... :(
[20:17] <soee> travnewmatic: i think thers no such feature atm
[20:17] <soee> you can only browse phone files and copy/paste them this way
[20:23] <travnewmatic> soee, its totally a feature
[20:24] <travnewmatic> its just not a feature for me right now :D
[20:24] <travnewmatic> soee, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/kde-connect-android-notifications-linux-desktop
[20:26] <soee> travnewmatic: hmn, interesting
[20:27] <travnewmatic> though i'm wondering if this could be an issue with trusty
[20:28] <soee> thers no such context menu entry in Vivid
[20:29] <travnewmatic> kde connect is installed?
[20:29] <travnewmatic> and your phone is paired?
[20:30] <soee> travnewmatic: yes. in vivd you will have kdeconnect installed by default
[20:30] <MoonUnit`> wish the linux pushbullet app was better
[20:30] <travnewmatic> oh wow
[20:30] <soee> one second ill check if phone is connected
[20:31] <travnewmatic> how stable is vivid
[20:31] <soee> travnewmatic: ok confirmed, in vivid it works
[20:31] <travnewmatic> well thats pretty dope
[20:31] <soee> we can send to phone when connected via context menu
[20:31] <travnewmatic> right thats how its supposed to work
[20:32] <soee> so maybe trusty has some older version
[20:32] <travnewmatic> yeah
[20:32] <soee> we have 0.8 in vivid
[20:32] <travnewmatic> hmm
[20:32] <travnewmatic> lemme check the version i have
[20:48] <travnewmatic> 0.5.2.1
[20:49] <travnewmatic> so its a bit behind
[20:49] <travnewmatic> does vivid use plasma 5?
[20:49] <MoonUnit`> yes
[20:51] <travnewmatic> oh hell
[20:52] <travnewmatic> well what issues is anyone having with it
[20:52] <travnewmatic> plasma 4 has quite a bit of polish
[20:54] <MoonUnit`> baloo 100% cpu on one core is a common problem
[20:54] <travnewmatic> well
[20:55] <travnewmatic> i know baloo is super active post install because its indexing everything
[20:55] <travnewmatic> i've noticed that on earlier installs
[20:55] <MoonUnit`> plasmashell and Xorg taking up 40% cpu <- not sure if thats a common problem.
[20:55] <travnewmatic> mhm
[20:56] <travnewmatic> skype still in the partner repo?
[20:56] <__danmac__> I just installed 15.04, can't seem to get OpenGL working ... (nvidia 7900)
[20:57] <travnewmatic> poop
[20:57] <soee> __danmac__: works fine for me :)
[20:57] <soee> __danmac__: what happens if you set OPENGL ?
[20:58] <__danmac__> well the card is only capable of opengl 2 anyway, i tried setting O1 and O2 and doing kwin_x11 --replace but it fails to enable compositing whatever i do
[20:58] <MoonUnit`> travnewmatic: yes, just checked. though partner repo wasn't enabled for some reason.
[20:58] <__danmac__> think O1 is deprecated now anyway
[20:59] <travnewmatic> MoonUnit`, im not surprised that they're disabled by default
[20:59] <__danmac__> the new look is fantastic, would be a shame to have to put 14.04 on it ... (new laptop hehe)
[21:00] <soee> __danmac__: jes o2 is minimum
[21:00] <travnewmatic> i wonder how much i can get away with if i just install vivid to / and not format /home
[21:00] <soee> 7900 is pretty new card ?
[21:00] <travnewmatic> i'd be nice not to have to setup eeeeverything again
[21:01] <__danmac__> soee: installing it was an effort, there was corruption, some text didn't appear but hovering over buttons made them appear
[21:01] <MoonUnit`> i installed the numix icons, looks less boring. breeze is a bit too plane for my liking.
[21:01] <__danmac__> soee: noooo mate 7900 is years old
[21:01] <__danmac__> soee: when i said new laptop it's new to me haha :) off ebay
[21:01] <soee> ;D
[21:03] <__danmac__> nouveau driver causes all sorts of corruption which was a nightmare while installing, but the nvidia proprietary driver seems much better
[21:05] <__danmac__> ironically, kwin seems happy to use the compositor with nouveau even though it's a total mess, but won't even entertain the nvidia drivers ...
[21:18] <linuxguy> Im trying to install Kubuntu 15.10 plasma 5 with a 1gb nidia card, are there any codes i should use to boot to live cd?, as I just get a black screen thnks
[21:19] <linuxguy> >>nvidia
[21:20] <soee> linuxguy: so you dont see any content just black screen all the time ?
[21:20] <__danmac__> lol welcome to the "nvidia doesn't work for me" club
[21:20] <linuxguy> to both yep.a blasck screen :
[21:20] <__danmac__> try nomodeset
[21:22] <__danmac__> and assuming you get into the installer, near the beginning are two tickboxes, "third party bla bla" and "download updates" tick both of those and it should download the nvidia proprietary drivers, which have a better chance of working when it comes to reboot after install
[21:24] <__danmac__> i assume you gave it a few minutes at the black screen and saw absolutely no activity from usb or whatever you're booting from? it can take a while to boot from installation media
[21:24] <linuxguy> __danmac__, Ive tried nodemodeset to, and Ive never tried to install kubuntu 15.10 plasma 5, because I cant use livecd
[21:24] <__danmac__> nomodeset
[21:24] <linuxguy> Ive got no activity from either booting from cd or usb :(
[21:24] <__danmac__> right?
[21:25] <linuxguy> yep nomodeset
[21:26] <__danmac__> on the kernel line where you put nomodeset, try removing "quiet" and "splash" if they are there
[21:26] <__danmac__> quiet should be, not sure about splash
[21:26] <linuxguy> I was wondering wether it was the graphics crad being a 1gb 9599GT?, I do have a spare G210 512mb I could try?
[21:26] <__danmac__> 9-series should be fine, I haven't tried with 15.04 but I have a 9800GTX+ that works fine with 14.04
[21:28] <soee> do you see the plymouth when trying to boot live cd ?
[21:28] <__danmac__> if you remove quiet and splash from the kernel boot line you might see some clues
[21:28] <__danmac__> but don't ask me I'm having nvidia problems of my own right now haha :/
[23:53] <SporkWitch> so i made some tweaks to /etc/pulse/default.pa and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to set my sound card as the default output and USB default input.  after a reboot, it worked, steam (and games launched from it) and wine (and games launched in it) used the correct main output and didn't claim exclusive access so i could still play video or music in the background.  after another reboot, the files
[23:53] <SporkWitch> still show my changes, but now it's back to steam and wine trying to use my headset instead of main speakers...
[23:54] <guestVWrUww>  / join gaymacedonia