[04:15] <PryMar56> ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1436461
[04:19] <PryMar56> to see what fc22 did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10679310/
[04:23] <PryMar56> this LIB ^^ has pkg-config support and headers, but not shared object. Seems like a huge oversight
[04:23] <PryMar56> to classify the bug as wishlist is foolish
[09:17] <yossarianuk> is there an ETA on when the beta2 .iso will be populating in the mirrors?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
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[14:28] <Xvigorator> Hi all. There appears to be a problem with disabling the SSH daemon on boot up (i.e. want a manual start/stop only).
[14:31] <Xvigorator> I have tried systemctl disable sshd But it is ignored. I have also disabled via sysv-init (/etc/rc2 through rc5)
[14:32] <Xvigorator> Can anyone confirm unstoppable SSH daemon at boot up?
[14:34] <Xvigorator> 'sudo service ssh stop' or 'systemctl stop sshd.service' will work once logged in. No desktop autostart is used.
[14:38] <Xvigorator> Vivid Velvet is installed.
[16:43] <yossarianuk> still no beta-2 iso.......
[16:43] <TheNumb> yossarianuk: use a daily iso
[16:46] <elfy> yossarianuk: if it does turn up today it will be tomorrow in some parts of the world
[16:47] <elfy> never completely sure why the fascination with milestone releases - it'll be out of date more or less as soon as it releases :p
[16:48] <yossarianuk> ok - cheers
[16:48] <yossarianuk> had an issue with UEFI on previous nightly (kubuntu(
[16:49] <yossarianuk> where I had to install twice in order to get the UEFI boot entry
[16:49] <elfy> I did see a bunch of updates being talked about for kubuntu - they might be on the current b2 that's available for testing
[16:49] <elfy> but couldn't be sure - don't use it here
[16:50] <yossarianuk> elfy: would not the same installer bugs be present with ubuntu
[16:50] <yossarianuk> its really on the desktop that's difference
[16:50] <yossarianuk> (at the min - when Mir is out there will be more differences)
[17:24] <Xvigorator> testing
[17:52] <gr33n7007h> is 15.04 using systemd?
[17:57] <Xvigorator> gr33n7007h  Yes!
[17:57] <BluesKaj> gr33n7007h,yes
[17:58] <CptRageToaster> Hmm... over in Xen, PryMar56 and I were talking about a missing systemd lib that's needed to compile Xen 4.5
[17:58] <CptRageToaster> over in #Xen*
[17:58] <CptRageToaster> issue in launchpad was marked as "wont fix"
[17:58] <gr33n7007h> ok thanks
[17:59] <CptRageToaster> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1436461
[17:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1436461 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] libsystemd-daemon.so.0 needs-packaging" [Wishlist,Invalid]
[18:04] <CptRageToaster> is there any recourse?
[18:17] <knittl> how can I find out, why a package will be removed by apt-get/aptitude?
[18:25] <PryMar56> I need source code sd-daemon.c from the systemd sources, how can I extract this?
[18:25] <PryMar56> for Vivid 15.04, systemd 219
[18:26] <PryMar56> I found the header, sd-daemon.h
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[23:51] <PryMar56> to build libsystemd-daemon.so.0 (systemd-219): ./configure --enable-compat-libs