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| KurtKraut | What are the prospects of having Gnome 3.16 in Ubunto Gnome along with next Ubuntu release 15.04? | 02:52 |
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| Noskcaj | kurtkraut, non-existant (except for a few non-core parts). We will have a PPA for 3.16 and *hopefully* 3.18 in 15.10 | 06:35 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, he left! | 06:38 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, I hit tab and hoped, maybe he'llcome back | 06:44 |
| darkxst | well he wouldnt see it anyway | 06:48 |
| darkxst | ricotz, I think its best to keep the -g1 in webkit i386 specific atleast for gnome3-staging, the symbols are somewhat useless for local debugging (i'd likely use jhbuild for that), but they are useful on the crash retracer | 07:25 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi, that is fine, although passing -g1 does *not* mean there are no debug symbols at all | 07:27 |
| darkxst | ricotz, no, but alot of the internal symbols will be stripped? | 07:28 |
| ricotz | i will keep it for all archs in the webkit ppa though to save hours of builtime and gigabytes of space ;) | 07:28 |
| darkxst | does it really affect the buildtime? | 07:28 |
| ricotz | darkxst, it saves over an hour | 07:29 |
| ricotz | per build | 07:30 |
| darkxst | ok | 07:31 |
| ricotz | i haven't compared stacktraces here, this is more a decision out of convenience | 07:32 |
| darkxst | ricotz, hmm maybe -g1 has enough for automated stackstraces actually | 07:40 |
| darkxst | it mainly affects local symbols, which are often optimized out on the retracer anyway | 07:42 |
| darkxst | well on the ubuntu builds | 07:42 |
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| * mgedmin will attempt to test the ISO \o/ | 09:28 | |
| mgedmin | still can't log in into http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ :/ | 09:29 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, fine here for me | 09:32 |
| mgedmin | yes, my account is special somehow | 09:32 |
| darkxst | special as in it doesnt work? | 09:32 |
| mgedmin | nobody else can reproduce this, and I can't get hold of any sysadmin who could look at the db contents and see what's wrong | 09:33 |
| darkxst | bugger | 09:33 |
| mgedmin | I'm getting "account registration failed: the name is already taken" when I try to log in | 09:33 |
| mgedmin | I had logged in successfully in the past | 09:33 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1418383 | 09:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1418383 in Ubuntu QA Website "Log In tries to register a new user account for an existing user" [Undecided,New] | 09:34 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, I have no idea who deals with Ubuntu One SSO | 09:36 |
| mgedmin | I think it's the QA website, not the SSO that has the problem | 09:37 |
| mgedmin | I've no problems logging in to the wiki or to launchpad | 09:37 |
| darkxst | try balloons or stgraber then | 09:38 |
| mgedmin | iso.qa.ubuntu.com is Drupal, according to <meta name="generator"> | 09:38 |
| mgedmin | what's the appropriate channel? I tried #ubuntu-quality in the past, didn't get noticed by any sysadmins | 09:38 |
| darkxst | yet it will have a plugin for ubuntu sso | 09:39 |
| darkxst | they will be on #ubuntu-release | 09:39 |
| darkxst | or #ubuntu-devel | 09:40 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, though unfortunately the real sysadmins, are hidding behind a brick wall | 09:44 |
| darkxst | and you need to file RT tickets to get to them | 09:44 |
| darkxst | you could try email rt@ubuntu.com | 09:45 |
| darkxst | and they may look into it sometime before 15.10! | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | "eventually" is fine with me :) | 09:47 |
| mgedmin | :( "Try Ubuntu GNOME without installing" is still not translated in the livecd menu | 09:47 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, did you submit translations? | 09:47 |
| mgedmin | I got Colin Watson to merge the two missing translation strings to whatever-that-package-was-that-makes-these-translatable | 09:48 |
| mgedmin | and I _think_ I made the translations in launchpad, but I'd better double-check | 09:49 |
| * mgedmin digs out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/1384188 and rediscovers the package name | 09:50 | |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1384188 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Missing translations for 'Install Ubuntu GNOME' and 'Try Ubuntu GNOME without installing'" [Undecided,Fix released] | 09:50 |
| mgedmin | it's translated since 2014-12-19: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+pots/bootloader/lt/46/+translate | 09:51 |
| mgedmin | and yet http://imgur.com/surOD7z :/ | 09:52 |
| mgedmin | oh | 09:55 |
| mgedmin | somebody needs to make a new gfxboot-theme-ubuntu with the new translations updated from Launchpad | 09:55 |
| mgedmin | do I file a new bug? | 09:56 |
| mgedmin | ho hum, Ubuntu Vivid Vervet gives me a text login on tty1 if I boot it in kvm | 10:00 |
| mgedmin | tty7 has this: http://i.imgur.com/n2mOUFf.png | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | btw am I testing the right image? "Beta (20150326)" | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | testdrive's rsync was from rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-i386.iso | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | can't log in with username 'ubuntu' and either blank password or trying 'ubuntu' as the password | 10:03 |
| mgedmin | ah, the username is 'ubuntu-gnome' | 10:04 |
| mgedmin | I could boot the livecd session on real hardware, but I don't have a spare hard disk to test actual installation | 10:05 |
| mgedmin | ok, Xorg.0.log says it's trying these drivers: cirrus, cirrus, modesetting, fbdev, vesa | 10:11 |
| mgedmin | cirrus bails out because "The PCI device ... has a kernel module claiming it; this driver cannot operate until it has been unloaded" | 10:11 |
| mgedmin | modeset tries to load glamor, fails | 10:12 |
| mgedmin | seems to configure a 1024x768 screen fine | 10:12 |
| mgedmin | then aiglx reverts to software rendering | 10:12 |
| mgedmin | and then there"s a "Fatal server error: failed to create screen resources" | 10:13 |
| mgedmin | I can't find anything about qemu compatibility issues in vivid's release notes | 10:16 |
| mgedmin | I'm not sure I can find vivid's release notes... | 10:16 |
| mgedmin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Beta2/UbuntuGNOME is what I checked | 10:16 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, software fallback is know to be broken on drivers that provide half-arsed GL support | 10:33 |
| mgedmin | so there's no way to test in a VM then? | 10:34 |
| * mgedmin braces for the inevitable vmware suggestion | 10:34 | |
| darkxst | mgedmin, which VM? | 10:34 |
| mgedmin | kvm would be my preference, but I also have virtualbox installed | 10:34 |
| darkxst | not sure about kvm, qemu should work | 10:35 |
| mgedmin | same thing, afaiu | 10:35 |
| darkxst | virtualbox is tainted crap, I would rather use (and do) vmware than that | 10:35 |
| mgedmin | vagrant is the only reason I use virtualbox | 10:35 |
| darkxst | virtualbox requires proprietry blobs on host for gl to work | 10:37 |
| mgedmin | ok, I tried all four possible -vga options passed to qemu cirrus, std, qxl, vmware); all fail | 10:37 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, smells like something is snuffed on your host | 10:39 |
| darkxst | then again I havent booted qemu this cycle | 10:40 |
| mgedmin | -vga cirrus worked fine last cycle | 10:40 |
| mgedmin | well, there were those strange drawing artefacts sometimes | 10:41 |
| mgedmin | but at least I could complete the test | 10:41 |
| darkxst | in reality vmware is the closest you can get to real hardware testing | 10:41 |
| darkxst | despite the apparent claims of gpl violation in ESXi | 10:42 |
| mgedmin | I don't suppose I can apt-get install vmware? | 10:44 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, no, but there installer is ok | 10:45 |
| darkxst | qemu often gets bugged out by dody libvirt patches in ubuntu | 10:45 |
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| amjjawad | darkxst, | 23:37 |
| darkxst | amjjawad, hi | 23:38 |
| amjjawad | hi darkxst | 23:38 |
| amjjawad | my whole body is in pain (slept 2 hours only) | 23:41 |
| amjjawad | I chatted with infinity late at night and as per his tests, the installation didn't crash on him like it did with me | 23:41 |
| amjjawad | and he didn't want to re-spin | 23:41 |
| amjjawad | I was so unsure how to go ahead with that while it broke on my testing :( I see them ready now but I don't think they're yet :( | 23:42 |
| amjjawad | Ok, VB crashed again on me!!! | 23:44 |
| darkxst | I wouldnt consider virtualbox a blocker, especially when there has not been widespread reproduction | 23:44 |
| amjjawad | never had that :'( | 23:44 |
| darkxst | amjjawad, do youself a favour and download vmware player | 23:44 |
| amjjawad | it broke now again | 23:44 |
| amjjawad | in the repo? | 23:44 |
| darkxst | no you have to get it from the vmware site and run the installer | 23:45 |
| darkxst | but it is free for personal use, and infinitely better than virtualbox | 23:45 |
| amjjawad | http://www.vmware.com/au ? | 23:45 |
| darkxst | https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_0 | 23:46 |
| darkxst | (it may need a small patch if you are running on 15.04 host though) | 23:46 |
| darkxst | gtg, be back in a bit | 23:46 |
| amjjawad | tyt darkxst | 23:47 |
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