[14:06] <greyback> hey folks, tsdgeos got a unity8 hang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10683891/
[14:07] <greyback> if you have a look at thread 9, it's blocked waiting for another buffer from mir
[14:07] <greyback> which may be normal...
[14:08] <greyback> thread 23 is waiting inside a snapshotting lambda
[14:08] <greyback> which is suspicious to me too
[14:09] <greyback> did the double-buffering stuff land?
[14:10] <greyback> AlbertA: alf_ ^^ ideas?
[14:11] <alan_g> greyback: that's using Mir 12? Or 12.1?
[14:11] <tsdgeos> alan_g: vivid
[14:11] <alan_g> BTW alf_ is supposed to be off the rest of the week
[14:11] <tsdgeos> alan_g: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10683940/
[14:12] <greyback> 12.0 - so no buffer changes I suspect?
[14:12] <alan_g> Well, AlbertA found (& fixed) some races in 12.0
[14:13] <greyback> alan_g: that's what 12.1 is for?
[14:14] <alan_g> Mostly
[14:14] <greyback> alan_g: silo13 I presume?
[14:14] <alan_g> Not sure exactly what we backported to 12.1 but certainly some race fixes
[14:14] <greyback> tsdgeos: could you try installing silo13 and see if the problem remains?
[14:15] <tsdgeos> i can give it a go i guess
[14:15] <greyback> thanks, would be gret if this fixes it
[14:17] <alan_g> greyback: we didn't land the switch to double buffering in 12.1
[14:18] <greyback> alan_g: cool
[14:18] <greyback> doesn't strike me a point-release kind of change
[14:18] <tsdgeos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1436860
[14:19] <alan_g> Nor me - but no-one listened (at first)
[14:19] <tsdgeos> greyback: alan_g: anything else you guys want me to add in there before i reboot the phone?
[14:19] <alan_g> not I
[14:19] <greyback> tsdgeos: unity8.log pl`
[14:19] <greyback> plz
[14:20] <greyback> tsdgeos: and please use pastebin for the backtrace, it's hard to read as P wordwraps it
[14:21] <tsdgeos> greyback: but pastebin will eventually die, no?
[14:21] <tsdgeos> i can attach it into a file
[14:21] <greyback> tsdgeos: I didn't think so
[14:21] <tsdgeos> so you can download and read it with your favorite editor
[14:21] <greyback> yeah best option
[14:22] <greyback> I'd like to think pastebin.ubuntu.com will be around as long as LP is
[14:23] <tsdgeos> greyback: anywya, looks better now
[14:23] <greyback> tsdgeos: thanks, sorry for being pain :)
[15:05] <alan_g> kdub: what do you want from "distinguish the "server_example_canonical_window_manager""?
[15:06] <kdub> alan_g, I'm just not sure why there are two that seem similar I suppose
[15:07] <alan_g> Because folks wanted a copy, not a move?
[15:08] <alan_g> ...and copies tend to be similar.
[15:15] <kdub> alan_g, fair enough, but seems to merit a name change from canonical I guess was my point
[15:18] <alan_g> suggestion?
[15:26] <kdub> alan_g, i keep getting distracted by the nested stuff, maybe 'default'
[16:00] <alan_g> camako: should https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/0.12/+merge/253528 still be linked to lp:1240909?
[16:00] <alan_g> AIUI we reverted that change
[16:01]  * alan_g wonders whether camako_ heard him
[16:02] <camako_> alan_g.. I didn't... somebody ping me?
[16:02] <alan_g> camako_: should https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/0.12/+merge/253528 still be linked to lp:1240909?
[16:02] <alan_g> AIUI we reverted that change
[16:04] <camako_> alan_g, right it shouldn't be...
[16:05] <alan_g> camako_: fixed
[16:06] <camako_> thanks
[16:07] <alan_g> np
[16:23] <alan_g> kdub: did you notice the prerequisite? https://code.launchpad.net/~andreas-pokorny/mir/move-input-report/+merge/253207
[16:23] <kdub> alan_g, no, i didn't switched back to needs review
[16:24] <alan_g> And https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/unpublish-legacy-window-managment-customization/+merge/253967