=== mkv is now known as m4v [00:24] si [01:07] where is Kubuntu 15.04 64Bit Beta 2 ? [01:08] nm, I found it :) [01:09] :) [01:36] well i took the plunge [01:36] i'm on 15.04 [01:37] (pls update hexchat to use the new window stuff) === tnewman is now known as travnewmatic [01:50] testing [02:56] so waiting for everything to look all pretty in KDE 5 is going to be fun [03:02] travnewmatic: it already is :) [03:45] hi [04:00] what's up [04:03] Hi, I have a monitor connected to my nvidia graphics card and another connected to my motherboard. can I make both of them work? === kevin is now known as Guest23283 === kubuntu is now known as Guest42622 === skekSo_ is now known as skekSo [08:32] my encryption died on both of my notebooks, am i only one who encountered this recently? === Taggnostr2 is now known as Taggnostr [08:48] WTF?! I changed my password few days ago to a new password and then back and the stupid ubuntu shit did not change the encryption string back again [08:49] ..Also it is fixed, thanks for assistance.. I will bugreport this and will not be pleasant and nice === lex_ is now known as lex66 === lex66 is now known as lex666 === lex666 is now known as lexrw === lexrw is now known as lex66 === Yukkii is now known as Kaneki === kevin is now known as Guest76985 === Kaneki is now known as Yukkii === Yukkii is now known as Yukkino === marvin is now known as Guest27720 === roberto is now known as Guest56546 [11:08] I want to link an upstream (KDE) bug in Launchpad, but can't find the right button. Does anyone has an idea? [11:14] alvin: Also affects distribution/package [11:15] Riddell: Thanks, but I tried that. The problem is the distribution. What do I choose there? It probably affects all distributions. The bug was visible at the KDE demo booth at Fosdem, and if I'm not mistaken, they used OpenSUSE [11:16] Launchpad says "Bug watches can not be added for Ubuntu, as it uses Launchpad as its official bug tracker. " [11:22] alvin: so link to the kde bug site [11:24] Riddell: But that's what I'm trying to do! It's just not clear how to do it. There are 3 attributes: Distribution, Source Package Name and URL. That should be Ubuntu, plasma-desktop and the KDE bug tracker URL. But Launchpad doesn't want to accept for 'Ubuntu'. And 'KDE' is not in that list. [11:25] It's Launchpad bug #1437260 that I'm trying to link to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336089 [11:25] KDE bug 336089 in kcm_fontinst "Font preview - rendering problem" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:25] Launchpad bug 1437260 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "Plasma5 Font Preview is not visible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437260 [11:31] alvin: hmm weird, suddently I don't know [11:31] alvin: I've linked it to a fedora bug on bugs.kde, how weird [11:32] alvin: but we don't tend to track upstream bugs in kubuntu so upstream is the important place [11:34] Riddell: Well, thanks anyway. I remember doing this, but it was a long time ago, and Launchpad has evolved. Upstream is fine for me too. I will refrain from using Launchpad for KDE bugs then. But it would be a shame to release Kubuntu with that one. [11:34] Now, I can't see how http://www.sansbullshitsans.com/ looks like ;-) [11:58] hey folks, I was trying out latest kde on my ubuntu vivid install, but it looks weird: http://imgur.com/mi9tmoN - all the icons are badly scaled up, and some fonts are badly rendered [11:58] alvin: It looks to be added: Remote bug watches kde-bugs #336089 [UNCONFIRMED]. IIRC, all you need to do is paste the full URL of the KDE bug into the Launchpad bug, and after an hour or two, it automagically shows up in the remote bug watch. [11:58] bug 246714 in gtk2 "duplicate for #336089 spatial nautilus windows drift when using compiz" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246714 [11:59] would appreciate any ideas. Have dug into menus, DPI unchanged, font sizes are 10-11 [12:02] mparillo: I see. Well, that's easier than I thought. [12:03] greyback: check if you have maybe installed appmenu-qt5 [12:03] soee: I have. that the culprit??! [12:03] greyback: remove it, relogin and give us info if that was the problem [12:05] soee: no change [12:06] hmm [12:06] greyback: did you do fresh install or maybe upgrade from previous version ? [12:07] greyback: did you reboot or relogin after this package we talked about was removed ? [12:08] soee: I installed vivid a few months ago. I do unity8 development so it's my test machine - so unity8 is there too. I just now installed kubuntu-desktop and tried logging in, and that's what I see. [12:08] it possible unity8 stuff sets some env which screws up kde [12:08] greyback: might be [12:08] soee: I'll look into it [12:09] this looks more like some DPI issues [12:09] aha QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO=2 is set [12:09] * greyback didn't set that [12:10] no, it appears I did [12:10] soee: sorry, user error [12:10] :) [12:29] Hiyas all === mathieu is now known as Guest70222 === Guest70222 is now known as Houston4444 === 21WABQ18U is now known as vineetg [13:11] Shall I select "Encrypt my home folder" when I install? [13:11] If you want your home folder to be encrypted [13:12] sailoreal, why, is your data going to be "sensitive"? [13:12] Idk [13:12] Is it recommended to select it+ [13:13] ?* [13:15] well I will skip it [13:22] sailoreal, if you're a home user then it's probly not necessary to encrypt [13:22] k [13:22] Is it possible to install skins? [13:23] Like this (soee) sent to another user yesterday: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/26/workspace18.png [13:23] !skins [13:24] there are diffrent schemes and colours etc [13:24] Ok how do I install one like this; http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/26/workspace18.png [13:26] sailoreal, look in kmenu>system-settings>app and appearance [13:26] Ok thanks [13:26] When I have installed I need to restart, shall I boot to Kubuntu, or boot with the USB? [13:28] boot to kubuntu, it will be installed, this isn't windows [13:29] so not boot with the USB? (kubuntu usb) [13:29] no need [13:29] Ok, then I have 2 more questions... [13:30] When I open KDE partition manager there is a lock beside the kubuntu partitions [13:30] why? [13:30] I could be wrong.. But i think it's because you can't edit a partition that is mounted (in use) [13:31] But soee can: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/26/workspace18.png (no lock) [13:31] what's soee? [13:32] soee is an IRC user [13:32] oh ok [13:32] do you have a lock beside it fuzzymonkey ? [13:32] i'm checking to see if i have a lock... [13:32] Thanks! [13:33] KDE Partition Manager [13:33] yes i have locks [13:33] Is it normal? [13:33] near all the partitions that are currently mounted [13:33] yes i think that's normal [13:33] You're using 14.10 Plasma 4? [13:33] Kubuntu [13:33] you can't change a partition that is in use [13:34] yup 14.10 [13:34] plasma 4 [13:34] ok, then one more question [13:34] or two [13:34] but my desktop looks different to your desktop (in the picture you sent) [13:34] Thats not my desktop [13:34] it's soee's [13:34] oh ok [13:34] 1. Is it normal that Kubuntu ask for password when I open KDE Partition Manager? [13:34] yes [13:34] Or update the system' [13:35] ?* [13:35] Yes [13:35] totally normal [13:35] because you are changing important parts of your system [13:35] Ok, second question; is 14.10 a LTS version? [13:35] you wouldn't want to casually remove or shrink a partition with important files on it! [13:36] !lts [13:36] LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) [13:36] Is it safe to install 14.10 updates? Would it mess up or broke something? [13:36] ubottu is right [13:36] even if it isn't LTS [13:37] I have 14.10 and encountered no problems [13:37] What's the difference between LTS and non-lts? [13:37] pretty much just stay on 14.04 if you require slightly older versions of software [13:37] sailoreal, read the post above [13:38] I just wanna use Konversation and Firefox [13:38] Is 14.10 best then? Or 14.04? [13:39] there's no best , 14.10 is the latest , 14.04 is meant for long term workplace typeinstalls [13:39] hello [13:39] I'm a beginner, I can't choose [13:39] help me choose ;) [13:39] thanks for this awesome distro! [13:40] sailoreal: what did you prefere? stability or newest features? [13:41] rfjaf3: both [13:41] sailoreal, 14.10 is solid and stable , 14.04 is LTS but it has some bugs in my experience [13:41] as long as it doesn't mess up or break something, or causes problems [13:41] Does 14.10 does it? [13:42] I have run both versions [13:42] Both are stable (but this is just my personal experience) [13:42] sailoreal: i asked for a reason. Then try for most recent features&design the 15.04 daily build. If its too unstable, try 14.10. That should be fuilly stable. If its also too unstable for you, take 14.04 LTS [13:42] Yes you can just try both [13:42] sailoreal, we're not here to hold your hand , you can decide from what we've already told you [13:42] it's pretty fast to install [13:42] ok, and in 14.10, shall I install updates? [13:43] Yes always install updates [13:43] k thanks! [13:44] sailoreal: of course. ALWAYS install upodates. For security reason thats extremey important [13:44] last thing; why is it a "KDE Plasma Workspace" button when I sign in? (clickable) [13:44] rfjaf3: just when it asks or regualrly do sudo apt-get updates [13:44] *regularly [13:45] You mean the little blue icon that appears on the panel? [13:45] no [13:45] the button [13:45] under the password field [13:45] Oh you're talking about login - sorry my brain is fuzzy [13:46] "KDE Plasma Workspace" i think is just telling you what graphical environment you are going to use [13:46] KDE Plasma is the default for Kubuntu.. you could install others if you want. [13:46] Ok, shall I regularly do sudo apt-get updates? [13:47] sailoreal: yes [13:47] but normaly the build in updater is already doing that for you [13:48] You know the text on the upper side of the kubuntu start menu? The whole username and computer name is not displayed. is it normal? does it matter? [13:48] rfjaf3 - the built in updater is only giving a notification.. and not automatically installing the updates, right? [13:48] fuzzymonkey: yes. Its not windows :p [13:49] ;) [13:49] rfjaf3: Cool. Been using Kubuntu for years and was worried that i somehow had it configured weirdly. [13:49] You know the text on the upper side of the kubuntu start menu? The whole username and computer name is not displayed. is it normal? does it matter? fuzzymonkey [13:50] on my computer that information displays on the bottom of the kickoff menu (start menu) [13:51] on my, it's on the upper side [13:51] Maybe i changed some setting and forgot about it [13:51] "Name (username) on computer-name" [13:51] or maybe i have a different version of KDE Plasma [13:51] Is it normal that the whole text isn't displayed? [13:51] Does it matter? [13:51] Nah i don't think so [13:52] what don't you think? Isn't it normal? [13:52] Lol sorry, i wasn't clear. I meant that i don't think it matters. [13:52] Ok is it normal? [13:52] ;D [13:53] I have 3 machines running Kubuntu + my wifes laptop [13:53] they all appear the way i described (bottom of kickoff menu) [13:53] with the full computer name [13:53] sooo i guess it's not normal [13:53] do this: [13:53] https://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/thumb/f/fe/Kickoff_Menu_Style.png/300px-Kickoff_Menu_Style.png [13:53] open a terminal [13:54] type hostname and hit enter [13:54] does it show the correct computer name? [13:54] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Kubuntu_10.10_main_menu.png [13:54] lemme check [13:54] yes it does [13:54] but it's a long name [13:55] "abcdefghijog-computer" abcd... = my name [13:55] well... that's your computer name [13:55] yes [13:56] and it does not displays the whole computer name [13:56] is it normal? [13:56] sailoreal, you can change it in /etc/hostname [13:56] not displayed in terminal or not displayed in kickoff menu (start menu)? [13:56] I dont want to change my computer name [13:56] kickoff menu, fuzzymonkey [13:56] maybe the name is too long to fit?? [13:56] yeah [13:56] is it normal then? [13:57] well.. yes [13:57] would you recommend me to change? [13:57] it's fine [13:57] Ok the LAST question now [13:57] if the name of the computer is important, then the system will use the correct full name that you saw with the hostname command [13:57] ? [13:58] you mean I will see the full name when I do "hostname"? [13:58] (btw sorry earlier i was incorrect, my wifes computer shows user name + computer name at the top of the kickoff menu.. like your computer) [13:58] ok [13:58] you mean I will see the full name when I do "hostname"? [13:59] yes [13:59] as far as i know [13:59] that is the name of your computer [13:59] Cause I do, but not in kickoff menu [13:59] in its entirety [13:59] so its normal that it doesn't fit in the kickoff menu? [14:00] it's only normal if the name is really long.. I guess you have a really long computer name [14:00] sailoreal, did you choose a name for your pc during the instalkl or did you go with the default suggested in the pc name field? [14:00] err install [14:00] I choose a name when I installed [14:01] "noahhedlund-computer" [14:01] then that's the name that will show in the terminal prompt [14:01] Yes, but it is too long for the kickoff menu... [14:01] thats normal? [14:02] "noahhedlund on noahhed" [14:02] when it should be "noahhedlund on noahhedlund-computer" [14:02] is it normal, BluesKaj ? [14:02] sailoreal i wouldn't worry about "normal" Kubuntu and Linux based operating systems in general are usually about customising and individualising to some degree. If the name doesn't fit fully in the kickoff menu.. then that's how it is on your PC [14:03] then change it in /etc/hostname , alt+F2, kdesudo kate/etc/hostname [14:03] then save the fiel after making the cjange [14:03] do I need to change it? or is it normal that it doesn't fit? [14:03] Or just change it like BluesKaj said [14:03] fuzzymonkey: I worry about that xD [14:03] sailoreal.. don't worry! :) [14:04] that's trivial, don't worry about it [14:04] nothing will go wrong because the name can't fit in the kickoff menu [14:04] bye@all [14:04] if something goes wrong.. there will be some other reason [14:04] but do you think it's normal? xD [14:04] byte rfjaf3 [14:04] yes it' [14:04] gawd [14:04] Thanks. One LAST thing as said [14:04] looool [14:04] sailoreal why do you care what we think? [14:05] It's your computer [14:05] do what you want [14:05] i mean.. unless it's broken. of course in that case you could ask for help/advice... that's what i do. === christian_ is now known as cgonzalez [14:06] one more ´thing: any ideas what skin this is? http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/26/workspace18.png [14:06] It looks cool [14:06] yeah ;D [14:06] Is that Plasma 5?? [14:06] Idk¨ [14:06] It's soee's pic [14:06] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kde+plasma+5&t=canonical&iax=1&ia=images [14:07] I'm using Plasma 4 [14:07] ;( [14:08] I want to get it, or a similar [14:08] Hmm [14:08] well you could at least get different themes for plasma 4.. maybe some style that you like [14:08] as far as i know plasma 5 is still pretty cutting edge [14:08] so that means lots of fancy features.. but not 100% stable [14:09] I don't want to use a tech preview... [14:09] anyway is there any similar ones for plasma 4? [14:09] from the website... Plasma 5 [14:09] This is the first release of Kubuntu with the next generation of desktop from KDE, Plasma 5. It has plenty of known bugs and missing features, see below, but also plenty of lovely new features. The Plasma 5.0 release announcement has more information. [14:10] anyway is there any similar ones for plasma 4? [14:10] i don't know [14:10] have a look [14:10] in system settings go to "Desktop Theme" [14:11] and then there's a button to download more themes [14:11] oh no... [14:11] something happened [14:11] system settings > workspace appearance > desktop theme > get new decorations [14:12] ?? what happened [14:12] the brightness is super dark!!!!!!! [14:12] can't adjust it [14:12] hahaha [14:12] are you on a laptop? [14:12] I didn't do anything [14:12] yes [14:12] that happened to me a few times [14:12] so weird [14:12] How do I fix it? [14:12] so the buttons don't work for brightness adjustment? [14:12] it's not the first time [14:12] no [14:12] give me a second... [14:13] ofc [14:13] go to system settings > power management [14:13] in there do you see a slider for adjusting brightness? [14:14] hello kubunters :) [14:14] i've just installed kubuntu 15.04 beta2 [14:14] hey cgonzalez [14:14] plasma5 is gorgeous!! [14:14] oooo i'm jealous! [14:14] Any stability issues? [14:14] but i have a problem with the digital clock applet [14:14] fuzzymonkey: yes and it's 100% [14:14] stability is good [14:15] almost no crashes so far [14:15] sailoreal, move the slider down.. hit apply, then move it back up, hit apply again. [14:15] fuzzymonkey: didn't work [14:15] but digital clock shows the time with 1 hour of diference [14:15] this happens pretty often, tired of it [14:16] i've changed settings in systemsettings [14:16] i've changed time in my BIOS [14:16] no way to fix it ? [14:16] i've changed timezone [14:16] ;( [14:16] i've enabled and disabled ntp [14:16] cgonzales... i don't have plasma 5, but try this [14:17] right click the clock, click digital clock settings.. then from in there make sure to set the correct time and timezone. [14:17] i think those settings could be different to the main system clock for Kubuntu [14:17] OR perhaps there is a bug that the KDE team are working on [14:18] fuzzymonkey: i've tried that already [14:18] I'm tired of the dark brightness thing [14:18] i've used my local timezone and utc-3 [14:18] nothing works :( [14:18] i'm almost sure that this is a bug [14:18] sailoreal there is ALWAYS a way to fix. It might take a bit of googling or digging in the settings. [14:19] my workaround for now is to set timezone as utc-2 [14:19] but the widget shows the timezone uder the actual time [14:19] so it's not prety [14:19] fuzzymonkey: maybe I need to use the "air for netbooks" desktop theme? [14:20] waaaiit.. this whole time... was the screen brightness really low.. or was it just a theme with dark colours? [14:20] would that help? [14:20] Coz I have a laptop/notebook [14:20] oh [14:20] it was default theme [14:20] dark screen [14:21] so the display is still dark for any theme you select? [14:22] I have restarted the computer and it's fixed, but it will happen again if I leave it for some minutes [14:22] It happens SO often!! [14:22] I think that's a power saver setting. But it should get bright again as soon as you touch the keyboard or trackpad. [14:23] nope [14:23] it doesn't [14:23] well then that part is broken [14:23] is your laptop a particularly new one? [14:23] check powersettings in system settings [14:23] sometimes really old laptops (and a couple of old ones) don't have 100% support in linux... in that case you would need to tweak or install a couple of things [14:24] on my computer, or the Kubuntu release? [14:24] oh [14:24] sometimes really new* laptops (and a couple of old ones) don't have 100% support in linux... in that case you would need to tweak or install a couple of things [14:24] well, it's one year old [14:24] also yes, double check power settings for anythign to do with backlight brightness or auto-dimming [14:24] HP EliteBook 2570p Base Model [14:25] is my computer broken, or the Kubuntu release? [14:26] Neither is "broken" it's just that Kubuntu isn't working 100% on your laptop and might need to be tweaked a little bit [14:26] How? [14:26] btw I don [14:26] btw, I don't have KPackageKit on my Kubuntu [14:26] remember the developers might have ever seen a HP EliteBook 2570p! So it's not surprise that only 99% of thinks work.. and not 100% [14:27] what is KPackageKit? [14:27] shall it be included? (it's an installation program), do you have it? [14:27] fuzzymonkey: KPackageKit is now called Apper [14:27] but Kubuntu defaults to Muon [14:28] as the official package manager [14:28] oh so how do I install Konversation? [14:28] ohhh it's a package manager [14:28] well i liek muon [14:28] use Muon [14:29] sailoreal.. not i do not have Apper(KPackageKit) but go ahead and install it if you want it [14:29] I will use Muon¨ [14:29] k? [14:29] That's fine [14:29] Either one is probaly good [14:29] anyway what do you mean by tweaking? [14:29] for my laptop [14:30] Personally i use "Software Center" and "muon". Both of them will download software/packages from the same place.. but "Software Center" kinda looks a bit more like an app store.. maybe that's better for new guys [14:30] but there is no harm for you to use either of those [14:31] or even KPackageKit if you want [14:31] fuzzymonkey: Muon is the only Software Center I have installed [14:31] included [14:31] And Muon looks like an app store [14:31] Muon Discover [14:32] tweaking.. it just means to make changes to your system so that it works better.. and the way you want it to. [14:32] Ok how? [14:32] sailoreal: Muon and Muon Discover are differents apps [14:32] Oh... [14:32] try this: sudo apt-get install muon && muon [14:32] I dont have Muon... [14:32] ah yes! [14:32] sorry to be confusing [14:32] So I can't use Muon Discover? [14:32] you can use both [14:32] Muon Discover.. i accidently called it "Software Center" [14:33] under the hood, both uses apt-get [14:33] yes you can use both.. that's what i do [14:33] Is Muon Discover the official and recommended way? [14:33] i think it's more a personal preference [14:33] the recommended way is whatever sailoreal likes [14:33] But it will install it the same way? [14:33] yes.. === drawkwar_ is now known as drawkward [14:33] ok [14:34] How do I tweak fuzzymonkey ? [14:34] they will both run the apt-get commands behind the scenes [14:34] "tweak" is just a term that i use [14:34] ok how do I do it? [14:35] well.. by tweaking i just mean changing settings so that your computer runs better.. or jsut he way you like it [14:35] do it could be anything [14:35] maybe you edit the fstab file so the hard drive performs better [14:35] How do I fix the dark screen thing? [14:35] or maybe you change power settings so your battery lasts longer [14:35] or maybe you edit thunderbird configuration file so that it uses less memory [14:35]