| AceLan | apw: got it, thanks. BTW, I always use lts-backport-xxx branch on precise and trusty tree :p | 00:28 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Hello kernel friends; I have a task for adding PTS/smoke testing in to the CPC image testing. Is this something I can run with the kernel-testing/autotest stuff, or is this a different beast? | 10:21 |
| Odd_Bloke | apw, bjf: ^ ? | 10:24 |
| apw | Odd_Bloke, not quite sure what you are asking there, are you asking if running the kernle tests would be a good smoke test ? | 10:25 |
| apw | and remind me what PTS means | 10:25 |
| Odd_Bloke | apw: That makes two of us. ;) | 10:25 |
| Odd_Bloke | apw: I _think_ PTS==Phoronix Test Suite. | 10:26 |
| Odd_Bloke | But if it's not obvious to you, then I should probably check what utlemming meant by it. | 10:27 |
| apw | Odd_Bloke, could be, not a phrase i use most days for sure | 10:38 |
| apw | Odd_Bloke, smoke testing is mormally "basic does it boot and give me a prompt" style testing | 10:39 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah; I think this is a bit of a confused task. | 10:41 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'll check with Ben when he's back in on Monday. | 10:41 |
| Odd_Bloke | apw: Sorry for the noise! :) | 10:41 |
| apw | Odd_Bloke, np and good luck with that | 10:42 |
| bguthro | Greetings - A question about packaging, that I'm hoping someone can help with: Is there a way to do an iterative kernel build, without doing a clean? I'm debugging something that is part of the kernel proper (i.e., not a module) - and have been trying to avoid doing a full clean / build cycle...but so far have been unsuccessful. Despite placing a #error in a .c file as a test, my compile happily packages everything up, seemingly without recompiling | 12:17 |
| bguthro | this file. I'm using "AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 skipabi=true skipconfig=true skipmodule=true fakeroot debian/rules binary" as a compile line, if it matters. | 12:17 |
| bguthro | I suspect there's a wiki page out there somewhere, but I've been unable to find it. | 12:19 |
| apw | bguthro, you need to remove the build stamp, and then you can rerun the command, stamps are in debian/stamps | 12:43 |
| bguthro | apw, fantastic - thank you much! | 12:44 |
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| Odd_Bloke | apw: Turns out http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~server-workload-testing-team/server-workload-testing/trunk/files/head:/pts/ is what we were talking about. :) | 15:29 |
| apw | Odd_Bloke, so it is phoronix, just a local copy | 15:31 |
| Odd_Bloke | It's a wrapper around the Ubuntu package. | 15:33 |
| Odd_Bloke | (TIL there's an Ubuntu package for Phoronix) | 15:33 |
| flexiondotorg | I been discussing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1368784/ with cjwatson in #ubuntu-devel | 16:04 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1368784 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Vivid and Utopic Virtualbox guest gets only up to resolution of 640x480" [High,Confirmed] | 16:04 |
| flexiondotorg | I've got the following work around - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1368784/comments/17 | 16:04 |
| flexiondotorg | cjwatson is prepare to update grub-gfxpayload-lists if someone here can confirm "fixing" this issue at a kernel level is hopeless. | 16:05 |
| flexiondotorg | So, thoughts? | 16:05 |
| flexiondotorg | ogasawara, Can you direct me to someone I can discuss the above with please? | 16:09 |
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| apw | flexiondotorg, "fixing" at the kernel level, do we know what the issue is ? | 16:24 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, the implication of the (admittedly older) comments is that you need virtualbox-guest-x11 | 16:24 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, and indeed i can confirm that installing the said package does sort things out, who knows what i has in it mind | 16:31 |
| apw | seems it has a vbox specific video drivers | 16:38 |
| apw | i wonder if they should be being installed by jockey | 16:48 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, So the issue is the default resolution when virtualbox-guest-x11 is not installed. | 16:49 |
| apw | the default resolution is that offered by the vesa settings i assume ? | 16:50 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, The vmware video devices are already blacklisted by grub-gfxpayload-lists | 16:50 |
| apw | ok, so then it sounds like whatever this is using now is a candidate for blacklisting ? | 16:50 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Must be. vesa is used by vbox when the guestadditions-x11 is absent. | 16:50 |
| apw | so that is a vbox issue really, offering stupid resolutions by default | 16:51 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Since 14.04. Yes. | 16:51 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, The 640x480 thing started sometime during 14.10. | 16:51 |
| apw | and presumably it does that because they don't care about you if you don't install their video driver | 16:51 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, I couldn't possibly comment ;) | 16:52 |
| apw | i wonder why i makes a difference to blacklist it in grub though, vesa must be very broken | 16:52 |
| apw | and so i would think rather than being a fallback option to blacklist more things in grub, it might | 16:52 |
| apw | be the appropriate option instead | 16:52 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, It is odd because when booting from the live media, resolution is 1024x768. | 16:53 |
| flexiondotorg | But on first install, resolution is 640x480. | 16:53 |
| apw | right, that doesn't use grub, nor initialise the display | 16:53 |
| apw | it uses syslinux | 16:53 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Indeed. | 16:53 |
| apw | grub initialises the display, because you know the vesa modes offered should be the preferred size of your display, so setting it up early makes sense and makes things prettier | 16:53 |
| apw | unless your vesa config is spam | 16:53 |
| apw | and has "1 1024x768 2 640x480 (default)" in it ... or equiv | 16:54 |
| flexiondotorg | So, possibly a regression in what Virtualbox provides. | 16:54 |
| apw | but if we are blacklisting for vbox video anyhow, it may well make sense to blacklist everything when vbox is found | 16:55 |
| apw | which is what i assume the wildcard you added does | 16:55 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Yes. | 16:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Although, AKAIK, vbox have only ever used one device ID for video. | 16:55 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, not that i really know why one would use vbox if you had any other choice | 16:56 |
| flexiondotorg | The other "work around" is to configure grub to use 'console' for all video output. | 16:56 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, It is very popular with people who just want to test. Low barrier of entry. | 16:56 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, i don't find virtmgr any more complex to drive, and it idoesn't have these issue at least | 16:57 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Agreed. | 16:57 |
| apw | and i don't need 30k lines of random out of tree junk loaded into my kernle to make it work either | 16:57 |
| flexiondotorg | But, people do use vbox. Clearly the Ubuntu GNOME team do who reported this issue. | 16:57 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, So the question is. Is this fixable by the kernel team? Seems like a big fat "No" based on what we've discussed? | 16:58 |
| apw | well they had much more ufn, they were just exploding in the host when they tried | 16:58 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, i am not sure what we would fix, grub handed us a configured terminal, and we continued to use it as instructed | 16:59 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, and presumably because vesa, it was at a stupid resolution | 16:59 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, That is a good answer. | 16:59 |
| apw | i'll try your workaround on that same gnome image in vbox and see how it looks | 16:59 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, So I think that blacklisting the vbox video device in grub is the way forward. | 17:00 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, OK. Thanks for testing. | 17:00 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, I am the maintainer of Ubuntu MATE BTW. This issue was flagged up in Beta 2 QA and I decided to take a peek. | 17:01 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, and i think the behaviour with the blacklist seems more useful, and i assume if i install the -guest-x11 i'll get go faster stripes | 17:04 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Yes with guest-x11 install you get dynamic resizing and such. | 17:05 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, but yes, i htink my prefrered option is this blacklist, and if it fixes the issues you have with locked disks that sounds liek a win | 17:05 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Agreed. Although the inability to enter encryption pass phrases affects actual hardware too. By blacklisting vbox for grub you get a text mode plymouth which always works. | 17:07 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, yeah, i assume we have a lot of issues there now we have systemd fun to play with | 17:07 |
| apw | i guess i ought to reinstall some of my kit with that to find out | 17:08 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, systemd isn't to blame for passphrase entry. That was present in 14.10 also. | 17:11 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, My "solution" was not to ship a graphical plymouth theme in 14.10. That way only test mode available and pass phrase entry worked. | 17:11 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Are you still testing this on an Ubuntu GNOME image or have we concluded that blacklisting is the solution? | 17:21 |
| apw | i think we concur blacklisting is the way forward for the size issue | 17:29 |
| apw | the plymouth not working is separate | 17:29 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Thanks for your time. | 17:38 |
| apw | flexiondotorg, thanks for paying attention to it :) | 17:38 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, I'll report back to cjwatson and he can make the blacklist change. | 17:38 |
| flexiondotorg | apw, Most welcome :) | 17:39 |
| apw | ack, thanks | 17:39 |
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| bubba2 | I'd like to test a recent mainline bugfix that was "queued for 4.0". Someone on the launchpad bug page said "no longer affects: linux-lts-vivid". Can someone explain what that means? | 22:13 |
| bubba2 | The lts and vivid part confuses me. I'm on 14.04.2 - can I install that kernel build? Or do I go to 15.04 vivid and install it (why the lts)? | 22:14 |
| bubba2 | This is the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1414930?comments=all | 22:15 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1414930 in HWE Next "[Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 20BT] Buttons of Synaptics trackpad doesn't work" [Medium,In progress] | 22:15 |
| bubba2 | Is this more of a dev chat? | 22:58 |
| bubba2 | squirrel | 23:37 |
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