[00:00] I am getting a error when i do phablet-dev-bootstrap it replies "Invalid clone.bundle; Ignoring." HELLLLLP!!!!!!!!!! [00:01] SharpBombsMC, what are you trying to do? [00:01] use ubuntu-device-flash [00:01] dragonkeeper: I think you should run "ssh-keygen -t rsa" on both devices [00:01] then ssh in like normal [00:01] I am trying to Port ubuntu [00:03] nvm [00:18] ima just give up n use otg cuz i got work soon n need sleep [00:18] cya guys soon [00:18] o/ === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [06:17] theoriginalpines: the wiki shows you what tools you need to install [06:18] lotuspscheje ok checking it out right now [07:20] Ubuntu phone keyboard is lacking Latvian languge (and Baltic language group in general) input support. Is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview the proper place to report the issue? [07:28] Or is this Maliit keyboard issue? [08:12] good morning [08:22] morning [08:38] monin [08:38] hey rudolfs [08:39] knightwise: hey! How is weather in Vilnus? [08:40] or more seriously, does Ubuntu touch support Lithuanian character input? [08:42] rudolfs: vilnius ? ? :) I'm in Belgium [08:43] don't know. I just ordered my Ubuntu phone yesterday. looking forward to playing around with it [08:44] knightwise: oops, too early morning. Can't even read WHOIS data properly. [08:45] the one month waiting time for me was bit too painful, but result is worth it [08:45] or at least it will be worth it, when translations will be updated [08:45] Which model did you get rudolfs [08:45] knightwise: Aquaris E4.5 [08:46] same one i ordered yesterday [08:49] I guess the waiting time will be less than for Eastern Europe [08:49] I think I should get it in the beginning of europe [08:50] of april [08:50] man .. not awake yet [08:52] :) [09:07] morning all [09:07] morning === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [09:16] rpadovani, hey, good morning! new comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/settings-page/+merge/253975 [09:18] ubuntu phone on ebay lool [09:19] Got my bq phone yesterday (!) but after system update I've lost icons for camera, gallery, tagger and weather. How can I restore them? === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [09:19] lost from where mcphail ? [09:20] app scope and sidebar. Just blank icons now [09:20] mmm for the sidebar [09:20] you can pin them when the app it s open [09:21] Se7: yes - the blank icon is there [09:21] long press on the icon and pin them [09:21] Se7: yes, but the icon is blank [09:21] strange [09:22] mmm hmmm === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad [09:22] wait maybe someone can answer better than me [09:22] or remove the wait one [09:22] and try to put new one from app page [09:23] Se7: it is blank on the app page as well [09:23] reboot then [09:23] Done that [09:23] and see what up [09:24] very strange for me [09:25] mcphail, wait for some developer to answer [09:25] i can t help more than that sorry :( [09:25] ok [09:25] my one work great :) [09:25] mcphail: that sounds strange. [09:26] popey: i get this with the emulator too [09:26] mcphail: what version does it say in system settings -> about this phone -> OS. [09:26] Mine is Ubuntu 14.10 (r20) [09:26] did you try to reset your phone via system settings ? [09:27] popey: same as you [09:27] hmm [09:27] reboot it and see if it does it still [09:27] sounds very strange [09:27] popey: still same after reboot [09:27] did you try to reset your phone via system settings ? [09:28] and update again maybe? [09:28] i wouldn't do that [09:28] we lose the ability to debug it then [09:28] right [09:28] sure [09:28] thats the windows way "re-install" [09:28] mcphail, did you make it writable or tinker in any other way with it on the low level ? [09:28] k popey [09:29] sorry for the idea :/ [09:29] ogra_: nothing. Charged it overnight. Switched it on for first time this morning. Set up ubuntu 1 and google accounts. Updated apps. Updated OS [09:29] very werid [09:29] *weird even [09:29] is the wifi on? [09:30] in the app scope, what if you pull down to refresh? [09:30] popey: yes. wifi is on. Pull down on app scope doesn't refresh the icons [09:30] only some icons missing, not all? [09:30] you mean you dont get new content or does it literally not refresh the scope ? [09:31] ogra_: the scope rereshes but the icons don't reappear [09:32] popey: just missing camera, gallery,tagger and weather [09:32] is tagger a core app? [09:32] its delivered in the image, yeah [09:32] popey: then presumably something has been borked with the update? [09:33] well, something is gone awry, yes. Strange that you're seeing it and I'm not [09:33] we can re-install the latest update [09:33] popey: worth a try. How do I do that? [09:33] ogra_: there's a system-image-cli option to re-install don't we? [09:34] popey, not that i know of [09:34] oh, i thought you could force a "re-install a full update" [09:34] i fear you need to use u-d-f [09:34] oh, that [09:34] * popey tries [09:34] you can force the base version to 0 using -b 0 [09:35] base being the original release, then you get an OTA, right? [09:35] bease being 0 then so it will try to install latest from the server as full install [09:35] let me try that here first [09:35] * mcphail is glad to have popey as a guniea pig [09:36] well, ubuntu-download-thing is doing stuff [09:36] so it's downloading at least [09:36] Does this install a vanilla image or bq's branded one with their scopes? [09:36] the same one it shipped with [09:36] ok, good [09:37] it keeps the same channel, you shouldn't lose data either [09:37] but yeah, let me test first :D [09:37] * popey is glad he bought a bq phone and kept it vanilla [09:37] i haven't even installed any apps on it [09:38] popey: data isn't a problem. haven't done anything with it yet [09:38] hmmmm [09:38] drat [09:38] ? [09:38] I have more than one device connected, and am flashing the wrong one :) [09:38] doh! [09:38] lets try that again :) [09:39] popey: ogra_: anything you would like me to do with this current image in the meantime which would help with debugging? [09:40] do you have a usb cable? can you adb shell into it? [09:40] be good to extract the unity8 logs I think [09:40] i'll enable dev options [09:40] ok, have adb shell [09:41] if you can just "mkdir ~/phablet_logs ; adb pull /home/phablet/.cache/upstart ~/phablet_logs" we can look at them later [09:41] also tail ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log and watch when you pull down to refresh, see if you get any errors [09:43] popey: nothing added in the refresh [09:45] ok. well, mine is now downloading [09:45] i guess thats some scopes component, not unity8 [09:45] (and my nexus 7 is reflashing) [09:45] oh, the app scope, yes. [09:45] lots of camera icon erros in the logs [09:45] unity8-dash.log ? [09:45] application-click-com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.log [09:46] that log gets written when the actual camera app is running [09:46] and unity8-dash [09:46] 234:Invalid size for QUrl( "file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg" ) QSize(-1, -1) [09:46] anything interesting in unity8-dash.log ? [09:46] my device is flashing now [09:46] du -sh . [09:46] whoops - wrong terminal! [09:48] hmm, my nexus 7 seems unwell now. not sure this was wise [09:49] wow, kudow to the Mir team ... vivid got a lot better with the very last image [09:49] *kudos [09:50] popey: http://themcphails.uk/phablet_logs.tar.gz [09:50] ta [09:52] my bq phone came back after a long time of downloading and unpacking [09:52] mcphail: can you get a screenshot of these missing icons? [09:52] popey: let me know when you've got the log files and I'll take them down from my server in case they contain anything sensitive [09:52] i have got them [09:52] popey: yep - how do I do that? [09:52] hold vol+ and vol-, pic will go in ~/Phablet/Pictures [09:52] ok [09:53] you can adb pull it off the device [09:58] popey: http://themcphails.uk/pics.tar.gz [09:58] popey: it's ~/phablet/Pictures/screenshot or something like that isn't it [09:58] davmor2: don't worry - got it [09:59] yeah [09:59] mcphail: got them [09:59] popey: ok === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:00] ok, lets take one of them for now, camera. [10:01] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ click list | grep camera [10:01] com.ubuntu.camera 3.0.0.516 [10:01] we're on the same version, right? [10:01] popey: yes [10:03] go to .local/share/applications [10:03] yep [10:03] cat *camera* [10:04] should be one big desktop file [10:04] Icon=/usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg [10:04] so ls that file, does it exist? [10:04] ls -l /usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg [10:04] -rw-r--r-- 1 clickpkg clickpkg 903965 Feb 18 18:39 /usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg [10:05] if you md5sum it, you should get 7e93fe8ae1dd4cf68de9d89ff60d78f5 [10:05] popey: my Icon path is different in the camera desktop file [10:05] Icon=/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg [10:05] huh, interesting [10:06] md5sum: /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.camera/share/icons/camera-app.svg: No such file or directory [10:06] aha! [10:06] popey: your file exists and has correct md5sum [10:07] yeah, that path is definitely wrong [10:07] but the .desktop file points to the "wrong" one for you [10:07] what makes that .desktop file? click? [10:08] which one are you looking at exactly now ? [10:08] (sorry, had a reconnect) [10:08] popey: actually, do you mean I should have a file "camera.desktop"? I only have "com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop" [10:10] what exact desktop file are you looking at ? [10:10] com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop [10:10] (note that click packages can have multiple ones) [10:10] in which path [10:10] ~/.local/share/applications [10:11] $ ls | grep camera [10:11] com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop [10:11] com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop is the only one I have [10:11] 66e4ee3daf690a95e19eb47f6fd995b3 is the md5sum [10:12] yours wont match that as you have a different icon path [10:12] well, that file is created by upstart-app-launch i think [10:12] popey: yep [10:12] we need to track this in a bug somewhere. [10:12] err [10:12] ubuntu-app-launch i shopuld say nowadays :) [10:13] it should be re-created if you remove it and reboot [10:13] logs for that are in ~/.cache/ubuntu-app-launch [10:13] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/.cache/ubuntu-app-launch/desktop$ ls -l *cam* [10:13] lrwxrwxrwx 1 phablet phablet 84 Mar 25 12:07 com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop -> /usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.camera/camera-app.desktop [10:13] what do you have in there mcphail [10:13] (no logs actually, just symlinks) [10:14] rpadovani, more comments and suggestions on your branch [10:14] lrwxrwxrwx 1 phablet phablet 84 Jan 30 15:28 com.ubuntu.camera_camera_3.0.0.516.desktop -> /usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.camera/camera-app.desktop [10:15] Jan 30? [10:15] march 25 here === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:16] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Theatre Day! :-D [10:16] Is this because I updated the camera app before doing the system update? [10:16] yeah, that doesnt look like it was properly upgraded [10:16] Good mornning James! [10:16] * mcphail can't remember if camera was one of the ones needing update [10:16] interesting [10:16] obviously this shouldn't happen. [10:16] natch [10:17] not sure where a bug should be filed tbh [10:17] Should I try a "reset launcher"? [10:18] sergiusens, do you remember what sets these .desktop file links for preinstalled clicks ? is that click itself via a hook, or ubuntu-app-launch later ? [10:24] mcphail: i would be inclined to get a bug filed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-app-launch/+bugs and we can poke someone with it. [10:25] popey: ok - will do that later today. Is it safe to upload those logs to the bug report? [10:26] popey: ag -i imei doen't show anything... [10:26] should be, but you can mark your bug private if you want [10:26] popey: think it is OK as I've searched through them for personal info [10:26] ok [10:27] popey: has your reset procedure worked? [10:27] yes [10:28] so adb shell in, then "sudo system-image-cli -b 0" [10:28] not sure this will help you though === greyback__ is now known as greyback [10:28] popey: worth a try, if you already have all the info you need [10:29] the other thing you can do [10:29] is remove and install each app in turn [10:29] long press on icon, uninstall, then find it in the store and re-install it [10:29] popey: can I remove system apps? [10:29] you should be able to remove anything [10:29] command line works too [10:30] sudo click unregister com.ubuntu.camera 3.0.0.516 [10:30] popey: camera icon is back! [10:30] after doing what? [10:31] popey: uninstall/reinstall [10:31] "nice" :) [10:31] for a rather broad definition of "nice" ;) [10:31] hence the quotes [10:31] yep [10:32] I'll file that bug after I've done my chores [10:33] thanks mcphail [10:33] do mention the order you did your updates. i think that's relavent [10:33] popey: ogra_: thanks for your help again [10:33] no problem! [10:33] popey: will do [10:34] * Se7 love this help in real time [10:34] * brunch875 has already finished his popcorn === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:34] popey, mcphail if re-install fixes it it is probably rather a click hook that failed here [10:35] true [10:36] Need to go, but I'll catch anything else you need in my awaylog [10:36] hello, there is video-calling on ubuntu-phone? [10:36] not yet, no [10:36] why ? === nopf_ is now known as nopf [10:38] tnozyrox_, it s growing :) [10:39] don t rush everythink will be ready a some point :P [10:39] tnozyrox_: nobody wrote one yet. [10:39] they doing an amazing job here [10:39] no webapp ... with sim-card ??? [10:45] Is there any plans to put Sirius or what ever theoriginalpines free opensource voice recognition software into Ubuntu touch? [10:46] once we re-enable the hud, it might use that [10:47] (if we re-enable the hud) [10:47] oSoMoN, thanks, on it :-) [10:47] (no idea what the plans are( [10:47] ) [10:48] the HUD was one of the big selling point of ubuntu touch in my po, I think it'd be a massive shame not to re-enable it at somepoint [10:48] HUD was always a solution waiting for voice recognition to be added to it [10:48] yeah. [10:48] I tried on the desktop with Sphinx a bit [10:48] * popey goes afk for the rest of the day. [10:48] ttfn [10:49] o/ popey [10:50] HUD makes apps like GIMP SOOOOOO much easier [10:50] well, the issue with the hub is that it is a global tool ... after we disabled it on the phone the concept completely changed to individual scopes [10:51] so i'm not sure how well it will go with the new design, it might need a lot of changed to work in the new world [10:51] *changes [10:52] i assume the global-menu stuff still works ... but we dont have apps using global menus on the phone [10:52] (i think) [10:53] I haven't used the HUD on the desktop for ages, I got annoyed with the keybinding clashes and never really noticed when that got fixed [10:55] huh, I've used the hud five times the last two minutes [10:56] nothing makes me sadder than having to move the mouse pointer [10:57] I don't use it a ton, but when I do, I greatly appreciate the fact I do, I mean I go to a different desktop environment/GUI its easily one of the biggest things I miss! [10:57] The HUD makes everything so fast in apps like Gimp, it's really powerful. [10:58] not to mention vanilla eclipse [10:58] because alt and super grabbed focus out of virtualbox I turned off the bindings and stopped using it, now I don't use virtualbox so much I need to start using it again! [10:59] jgdx how about looking through several lists trying to find the a option then realising it was in one that had another list in the list, and searching around in all of those, then forgettif what you w… [10:59] …as doing xD [10:59] ChloeWolfieGirl, I tried that, but then I got carpal tunnel and had to stop. :S [11:00] yeah, eclipse is not a master of consistency [11:00] just get a splint and move on ... :P [11:00] :p [11:01] * ogra_ just recovered from a month with CTS ... so annoying [11:02] I expect that some apps would benefit greatly from the HUD, especially in a convergent world :P [11:02] definitely [11:02] i'm just sayin it might take a while since it will need changes for the new concept in unity8 [11:04] *goes on Mac at uni and opens gimp* I don't need the HUD, *tries to find the correct crop* I NEEEEEEEEED IT! [11:05] sergiusens, ping [11:08] "you have an approximate of 2 additional unread messages" <- what writes that gramatical monstrosity? [11:09] AlanBell, where do you see it ? [11:09] ogra_: notifications, from gmail [11:09] is it google's fault or ours? [11:10] so in the notification indicator ? [11:11] yeah, i guess thats the app side setting this text [11:11] yeah, in the indicator [11:11] yeah, thets likely google ... dbarth ^^^ ? [11:16] "approximate" does not exist in lp:unity-webapps-gmail [11:18] ooh, it is a popey fix that is unmerged [11:18] popey is teh awesome [11:18] https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/account-polld/fix-1365206/+merge/233294 [11:19] bug 1365206 [11:19] bug 1365206 in account-polld (Ubuntu) "Odd wording in email notifictaions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365206 [11:23] is that merge waiting on sergiusens? not sure if I am reading it right I don't know much about translations [11:24] i doubt sergiusens works on account-polld [11:25] just trying to interpret what the comments on the merge proposal mean [11:28] same here [11:29] ah [11:33] AlanBell: hello [11:33] dbarth: and hello [11:33] AlanBell: dbarth: i got around to that bug too late, and we're in translatable text freeze afaik, otherwise i would've landed it [11:33] it's a bit more involved, as sergio pointed out, but i've got it in a shelve here [11:34] is accound-polld used on the desktop ? [11:35] ogra_: no [11:35] ogra_: unless you put it there yourself ;) [11:35] ogra_: it depends on push, which depends on url-dispatcher and click and such [11:36] ogra_: very much a phone-ish environ [11:36] but you can probably get it running if you persevere (in the “are perverse enough” sense) [11:36] perversere? [11:36] so the freeze is probably not in effect in that case [11:36] oh! [11:36] Chipaca, then it isnt under strin freeze [11:37] *string [11:37] * Chipaca unshelves === adrian_ is now known as adrian47 [11:42] AlanBell: dbarth: popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/account-polld/fix-1365206/+merge/254383 [11:42] sergiusens: if you could once-over that ^ i'll merge it [11:42] then we need some brave man to take it to the train [11:42] or woman! person. i usually say person. === dpm-afk is now known as dpm [12:01] Chipaca we all know there are no women on the internet === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:07] man, why did brunch875 run away before i told it where it could stick it === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:19] renatu: do you have any estimation when you (and others) could start piling up the qtpim upgrade branches? even if it would land after vivid is released, the API changes could be brewing already somewhere and collected to the CI Train spreadsheet [12:21] f**k just charged 100% after completely discharge and less than an hour 7% less [12:23] ogra_: AlanBell I used to, I think Chipaca is on it now [12:24] Chipaca: I'll take a look [12:26] sergiusens: thanks [12:27] sergiusens, yeah, seems like [12:28] I went into windowed mode and somehow pushed the scopes out of the screen so I can't access it in windows mode ;-; [12:30] when using android, I miss simple things like the ability to just pull the keyboard down to make it go away [12:41] Mirv, I can start doing that when I find some time, but for sure I need that before implement contact merging. Unfortunately no dates yet [12:42] Mirv, btw could you get this MR on vivid? :D https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109444/ [12:42] renatu: yeah, I was just thinking if some month like May could be the month, before Qt 5.5 so that they don't collide [12:44] renatu: sure, if you're ready to do the upstream testing for it (test plan at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/qtpim), I can add a line for it, patch & build it and ping you when there's action to be done like executing the test plan. [12:45] renatu: please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtpim-opensource-src so that it can be referred to from the changelog [12:48] Mirv, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtpim-opensource-src/+bug/1437300 [12:48] Ubuntu bug 1437300 in qtpim-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Missing detailTypesHint property on QDeclarativeOrganizerItemFetchHint" [Undecided,New] [12:56] renatu: thanks! === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:10] xubuntu desktop doesn t recognise ubuntu phone [13:10] developer mode enabled [13:10] lsusb [13:10] Bus 002 Device 020: ID 2a47:0c02 [13:12] Se7: how would you want it to recognise it? [13:12] i mean no icon appear on the desktop [13:14] what is the newest image as of today. I have 20141119, and I'm on devel channel. [13:15] muka: that's indeed the latest devel image...we haven't had a new image in the devel channel for a long time [13:15] muka: you should try the devel-proposed channel for more recent images [13:15] muka: hopefully in the coming weeks we might seem a promotion to the devel channel [13:16] nik90, thank you [13:16] Se7: does it appear for other phones? [13:18] yes Chipaca [13:18] if i connect my s4 appear an icon on my desktop [13:18] Se7: and what happens when you click the icon? [13:18] lol [13:19] Se7: i'm serious, i don't know [13:19] empty open window [13:19] So I have a new bq phone, have never touched an Ubuntu phone before, and am finding things that I'd like to see tracked in bugs. But I need some help getting reports to the right place. First: I see no bug for "no timer or stopwatch" filed against the clock app. Am I missing something? [13:20] rbasak: there is a no timer bug filed against the clock app already :) .. let me find the bug report [13:20] Hi all [13:20] rbasak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1427566 [13:20] Ubuntu bug 1427566 in Ubuntu UX "[Clock] Add back timers functionality" [High,Triaged] [13:20] Se7: can you elaborate a bit? as i don't use xubuntu, i don't know what it's poking at on your s4 that it's not being able to poke at on your bq [13:21] Se7: "empty window" is not helping, here [13:21] nik90: thanks! I couldn't find it. [13:21] rbasak: Can you report a bug for the missing stopwatch feature. I can confirm and triage it. [13:21] rbasak: those functionality are all planned. Just waiting on a design for them [13:22] Chipaca, if i connect the s4 and on the phone i choose the options camera(ptp) [13:22] i can looking all the pics and video on the phone [13:22] Se7: i don't think we do ptp, but i might be wrong [13:22] we do the other one [13:23] nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1437313 - thanks! [13:23] * Chipaca can never remember the names of those two [13:23] Ubuntu bug 1437313 in Ubuntu Clock App "No stopwatch" [Undecided,New] [13:23] My phone does not connect to the store anymore, and so I cannot check for updates.... All works (Internet etc) and my Ubuntu One account works, but from the store it says "Network error" for the last few days. Did a restore from the OS and from the boot menu but no go. Ideas? [13:23] rbasak: thnx :) [13:23] if i connect my ubuntu qb via usb nothing appear on my deskpot [13:23] I have a third one for the clock app. I can just file the bug. It seems too easy to accidentally turn off the alarm when I want to snooze. The snooze button should be large, and the "turn off alarm" button should be harder to activate in some way (eg. slide?) [13:23] I have adb shell and i'm not afraid to use it :P [13:24] desktop* [13:24] beuno: SkidzRulez' thing might be one for you ^ [13:24] rbasak: hmm interesting..bug pls..I will take it straight to the designer asap [13:25] Se7: if you tell your s4 to use mtp instead of ptp does it work on your desktop? [13:26] yes Chipaca [13:26]