[04:58] <mapps> hm
[04:58] <mapps> can get ajaxterm to work at all..had it working fine before;/
[05:30] <diddledan_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
[06:52] <knightwi1e> mornign
[07:13] <diddledan_> allo
[07:14] <nigelb> http://img.weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/rain-error-sun-404.jpg
[07:15] <nigelb> This is in Seattle, but I couldn't help think of London :)
[07:43] <knightwi1e> good morning everyone.
[07:58] <MooDoo> morning
[07:59] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , howarya
[07:59] <MooDoo> ok ta matey, you?
[08:00] <knightwise> doing ok, working from home the 5th day in a row .. going little cabin crazy
[08:02] <MooDoo> yeah not surprised
[08:07] <knightwise> especially since I have to pull the blinds in my home office against the glare of the sun (or I get a migraine)
[08:07] <knightwise> so : darkness from 6 to 4 pm
[08:08] <MooDoo> eeeek
[08:09]  * knightwise remembers when he used to work in an office with hot chicks
[08:09] <MooDoo> shall we start calling you knightwise-voldemort II due to your pale skin?
[08:10] <knightwise> its not that bad , beloved sweety takes me outside enough.
[08:10] <knightwise> just that working for this current client has meant having to direct co-workers
[08:10] <knightwise> everything is done via mail or conf call
[08:10] <knightwise> next project wil hopefully be a little more "social" :)
[08:13] <MooDoo> do you contract, or is it part of your natural working life, depending on clients?
[08:13] <knightwise> I'm a freelancer. work on long term contracts for clients
[08:13] <knightwise> this is my first gig , been doing it for allmost a year now
[08:36] <MooDoo> nice
[08:38] <diplo> Morning all
[08:38] <knightwise> hey diplo
[08:39] <diplo> How are we on this fine spring morning
[08:39] <knightwise> friday ... always a good thing :)
[08:39] <knightwise> watching some old belgian tv shows on youtube while drawing up some reports
[08:45] <diplo> Watching and drawing up reports, are you not telling us something knightwise ?
[08:46] <zmoylan-pi> the start of war of the worlds were the martians slowly and surely drew their plans? :-)
[08:48] <knightwise> Lol :)
[08:48] <knightwise> just multitasking a little
[09:10] <Myrtti> watching twitch, downloading wedding photos
[09:10] <Myrtti> coffee and cranberry juice
[09:13] <knightwise> hmmm
[09:13] <knightwise> looking at a video for the aquarius
[09:13] <knightwise> i ordered one yesterday
[09:23] <knightwise> looks ... Alien ...
[10:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Theatre Day! :-D
[10:16] <diddledan_> \o/
[10:27] <diddledan_> so putting my mobile phone near to a usb3 cable causes the device on the end of that cable to flap
[10:28] <diddledan_> methinks there's some interference induced
[10:31] <knightwise> diddledan_: quite possible
[10:31] <diddledan_> I remember the mess an incoming call caused on my old CRT back in the 90s
[10:32] <diddledan_> and on my sound system
[10:32] <diddledan_> wireless comms really are a pain
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> all those early gsm phones near speakers *di du di, di du di, di du di, di du di*
[10:35] <popey> http://imgur.com/Cwma0Kf
[10:35] <diddledan_> eek
[10:36] <diddledan_> the problem is it actually looks like a birth defect
[10:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:36] <diddledan_> ello bobo
[10:36] <diddledan_> that's my new name for you :-p
[10:39] <awilkins> Mine still does the dit duh duh dit duh duh thing
[10:39] <diddledan_> dit dit dit. dit dah dit dit.
[10:39] <diddledan_> (HP)
[10:39] <diddledan_> no that's not HP
[10:39] <diddledan_> I suck
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> i sometimes wish i knew morse in case it's trying to tell me something :-)
[10:40] <diddledan_> it's S something
[10:40] <diddledan_> I only know S and O
[10:40] <diddledan_> I could do binary communication using just S and O though
[10:41] <diddledan_> what do you mean three times the bandwidth?!
[10:52] <diplo> Anyone know of any CMS documentation software that looks/works out of the box like this https://advanced-python.readthedocs.org/en/latest/fabric.html
[10:52] <diplo> ?
[10:52] <diplo> I've looked at running wiki's and other CMS's but I don't want to spend time settign them up to look and work like this
[10:52] <diplo> But that's the sort of thing I'm after :)
[10:52] <diplo> <--- Lazy :P
[10:53] <diddledan_> the link on the footer points to http://sphinx-doc.org/
[10:54] <diplo> And popey, after trying to look at touch and stuff related to it and posts on discource and irc channels has anyone thought of using a voting system to see what the users would like to see implemented on it, sure there used to be something for one project years ago
[10:54] <diplo> A bit like http://feedback.azure.com
[10:54] <diddledan_> the theme used on that page is available at https://github.com/snide/sphinx_rtd_theme
[10:54] <diplo> Yeah that's for formatting the docs diddledan_ :)
[10:54] <diplo> Well that's how I read it
[10:55] <diplo> github is being ddos'd :(
[10:55] <diddledan_> it is?
[10:55] <diplo> https://status.github.com/messages
[11:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:08] <diddledan_> ello
[11:11] <bashrc_> morning
[11:26] <diplo> diddledan_: I was wrong about that spinx stuff, just need to read it better
[11:26] <diplo> Have some test pages up already, taking a bit of getting used to :)
[12:15] <ChloeWolfieGirl2> I saw in Manchester most of the displays around arndale run windows, pls fix popey
[12:16]  * diddledan_ fixes popey 
[12:16] <ChloeWolfieGirl2> haha xD
[12:20]  * DJones remembers the time he had the dog "fixed", walked with a limp and wouldn't look at me for days
[12:21] <DJones> Hope you washed your hands diddledan_
[12:21] <diddledan_> lol
[12:22] <diddledan_> yey, payday
[12:22] <diddledan_> or should that be: yaypayday
[12:24] <diddledan_> money hasn't hit my account yet tho
[12:26] <ChloeWolfieGirl2> oh gosh, I... I'm sorry popey
[12:30] <TwistedLucidity> ChloeWolfieGirl2: Fix? No, leave 'em. Probably running Windows XP. Oh...the fun that could be had...
[12:32] <diddledan_> sainsburys' customer service machines on the front desk run xp
[12:32] <diddledan_> I notice that every time I walk past on my way out of the shop
[12:35] <ChloeWolfieGirl2> diddledan_: that's a place you shouldn't use a credit card then?
[12:45] <awilkins> So many ATMs running Windows 2000
[12:46] <awilkins> From 2009 : http://www.jeremias-maerki.ch/wordpress/2009/11/09/atm-hanging-at-startup/
[12:46] <awilkins> What's the bet it's still running Win2k now in 2015 ?
[12:47] <shauno> we have nuclear submarines running win2000, and we're worried about ATMs?
[12:47]  * awilkins remembers "Windows for Warships"  (Windows NT 3.51)
[12:48] <awilkins> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/windows_for_war_1.html
[12:48] <awilkins> The power of "default"
[12:49] <awilkins> My boss insisting that we have a time-tracking system. And that we fill our timesheets in as Excel workbooks.
[12:49] <awilkins> Spent half a day confirming that you can use a VBA macro to merge sheets into a single book
[12:50] <awilkins> It takes me about 20 minutes to set up a working Redmine server.
[12:57] <shauno> sad thing is what became 'windows for warships' was the kind of scenario that looks like a shoe-in for linux - trying to modernize a sparc/solaris stack
[12:59] <diddledan_> lol @ the raptor breaking when crossing the dateline
[13:05] <TwistedLucidity> shauno: Hardly going to be networked to the wider world.
[13:05]  * TwistedLucidity thinks of Battlestar Galactica
[13:05] <diddledan_> TwistedLucidity: until they need to calculate trajectories
[13:05] <diddledan_> TwistedLucidity: then they'll need to network things to get the extra compute power
[13:06] <TwistedLucidity> I WILL NOT HAVE NETWORKED COMPUTERS ON MY SHIP!
[13:06] <diddledan_> TwistedLucidity: and it's at that moment that the cylons will decide to attack, obv
[13:06] <diddledan_> I loved that show
[13:06] <diddledan_> I was all emotional with the epic storytelling of the final episode
[13:06] <TwistedLucidity> I did until season three. I have never forgiven them for how they ended it
[13:07] <diddledan_> season three was the one during the writers' strike iirc?
[13:08] <TwistedLucidity> Think so. But it was fairly obvious they had no clear story-arc mid-season two.
[13:08] <TwistedLucidity> And then that ending. What utter tripe.
[13:09] <TwistedLucidity> It would have almost been better if Adama woke up in his bed and it had all been a dream.
[13:09] <diddledan_> I kinda wish that caprica was given more of a chance
[13:09] <TwistedLucidity> Indeed
[13:40] <Stass_> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[13:40] <Stass_>  leaves
[13:40] <diddledan_> was that an attempted trolling?
[13:40] <diddledan_> I think it's akin to viruses that helpfully patch the hole they enter through
[13:46] <Myrtti> oh, it's that person
[14:17] <safiyyah> Hi all, want to get a wireless adapter for my desktop, any advice?
[14:17] <Myrtti> get one that does 5GHz
[14:18] <safiyyah> I just had virgin media fix me a line and well I do not want them wiring across my fireplace, so I need a wireless one
[14:18] <safiyyah> Myrtti, will any go
[14:18] <foobarry> or powerline adapters ;)
[14:18] <Myrtti> well of course if your box doesn't do 5GHz then there's no sense in getting a Wifi card that does it
[14:18] <Myrtti> well, actually, I lied
[14:18] <Myrtti> it's a good idea to get one even if the box doesn't do it.
[14:19] <Myrtti> and you have to check if the card/adapter does 5GHz, I don't think all of them do yet
[14:20] <safiyyah> Myrtti, do I get the USB or can I get a card that slots in the motherboard
[14:21] <Myrtti> safiyyah: "it's up to you and your computer"
[14:22] <safiyyah> I want  card, what is it called?
[14:34] <bigcalm> safiyyah: Look at Edimax USB wifi adaptors. Edimax are well supported in Linux
[14:35] <bigcalm> If you've only just got the line installed by VirginMedia, the modem they have installed will give you both 2.4ghz and 5ghz access points
[14:35] <bigcalm> But if you want a card to put in side your machine, the term is PCI
[14:39] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, I was just about to big-up the Edimax cards and suggest they get a new router (VMs is horrid). But they've gone.
[14:40]  * bashrc_ owns edimax hardware
[14:42] <bashrc_> the edimax wifi adapters were a good investment. I've been using PCI/usb ones for years
[14:46] <diddledan_> I find it interesting that serial was the only communication available in the distant past then came along parallel upping speeds drastically and now we're back on serial for everything again
[14:46] <diddledan_> parallel meant thick cables tho so I guess theres that
[14:47] <shauno> parallel is still faster, but harder and harder to do at speed
[14:48] <shauno> just the whole physics of getting each lane to arrive at exactly the same time.  the faster you go, the more precise that has to be
[14:49] <diddledan_> then of course you get weird hybrids ala pci-e
[14:50] <zmoylan-pi> it all went pear shaped after isa :-D
[14:50] <shauno> it's pretty much just been out-moored. it's easier to brute more speed out of serial than to finesse more accuracy out of parallel
[14:51] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: the agp was pretty much a stupid idea
[14:51] <diddledan_> i.e. why limit it to just gfx?!
[14:51] <zmoylan-pi> and vl bus
[14:51] <diddledan_> then there's 64bit isa
[14:52] <diddledan_> that's the really long server varient
[14:52] <diddledan_> designed specifically for raid cards methink?
[14:53] <zmoylan-pi> my first hard card was on a full lenght 8 bit isa connected daughter board. and the hard disk was on opposite end away from pc blanking plate so it wobbled something terrible if you so much as sneezed near it
[14:55] <diddledan_> ours was pretty snug
[14:55] <diddledan_> it was the whole width of the case tho
[14:56] <diddledan_> i.e. it went from the right to the left of the case rather than back to front like more modern systems
[14:56] <zmoylan-pi> this one was about 3" too short to connect with opposite side of case as it was a weird shaped pc compatible
[14:56] <diddledan_> heh
[14:56] <diddledan_> mine was an alan sugar special
[14:57] <diddledan_> AMSTRAD PC1512 (google it!)
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> so wobbly hard drive was suspended wobbling constantly over expensive motherboard which inspired confidence
[14:57] <diddledan_> \o/
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> my first experience with pcs was an amstrad 1512.  crap but cheap
[14:58] <shauno> reminds me of how I killed my 386.  but I'd taken the drive apart and dettached the platter before powering it up.  so I kinda deserved it
[14:58] <diddledan_> err
[14:59] <diddledan_> how did it fail (in what manner)?
[14:59] <shauno> death by shaun?
[14:59] <diddledan_> lol
[14:59] <shauno> I can't remember what killed the drive.  but I wanted to see how fast it spins, powered it up, and it shinobi'd itself straight accross the mobo
[14:59] <diddledan_> you really aren't very good with computers staying in one piece are you?
[15:00] <shauno> computers aren't meant to stay in one piece.  they're delivered in parts for a reason
[15:00] <zmoylan-pi> i once destroyed a very expensive esdi drive of about 200mb by wiring it up the right way.  made a funny popping noise as it powered up, spun up, faster and faster and faster till it popped and then stopped forever
[15:00] <diddledan_> >.<
[15:01] <diddledan_> the right way or the "right" way?
[15:01] <zmoylan-pi> my boss gave out to me till he saw i had wired it up correctly whereas he had accidently got it working by wiring it up wrong as we had been sent the wrong cables
[15:02] <diddledan_> so it was his fault?
[15:02] <zmoylan-pi> no, it was the suppliers fault. i had merely done the right thing tidying up his work after he had spent a week setting up a novel server
[15:03] <diddledan_> methinks the extra L is important for correct pronunciation
[15:03] <diddledan_> novel vs novell
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> whoops, sorry yes
[15:03] <diddledan_> well I guess it was novel that he got it going with a wonky wiring
[15:06] <zmoylan-pi> it was late and he was tired and he got it wrong which was we found the way it was supposed to be :-)
[15:07] <zmoylan-pi> typing all the known bad sectors into novell to prepare a new drive was fun back then
[15:08] <diddledan_> it's crazy that we had to do things like that
[15:08] <zmoylan-pi> and then run ?compsurf to check afterwards and hope you didn't get an abend error
[15:09] <zmoylan-pi> we'd come back after a weekend run to find the abnormal end error and have to start it all over again
[15:13] <diddledan_> brb, reboob
[15:14] <zmoylan-pi> 0o
[15:24] <diddledan_> back again - nothing happened I see
[15:25] <ujjain> will opening a stock isa somewhere give me restrictions?
[15:25] <diddledan_> I would go with PCI or better PCI-e
[15:25] <ujjain> I'm planning to open a axa self investotr, but not sure if choosing the wrong platform would be a big deal, even though the exit fee is 0
[15:26] <foobarry> ujjain: try moneysavingexpert web site
[15:40] <TwistedLucidity> Didn't the recent budget change some of the tax rules on savings accounts?
[15:43] <foobarry> yes
[15:43] <foobarry> the y announced it, dunno when it applies from
[16:01] <diddledan_> nice. working long hours pays off when you're on an hourly/daily rate :-p
[16:02] <diddledan_> 48 hour week this week . lots of money :-D
[16:07] <ali1234> did that origami unicorn g+ post just get deleted because of the rather inappropriate picutre it contained?
[16:08] <ali1234> no, google just hid it for some reason
[16:36] <diddledan_> o_O
[19:14] <Banana_> i have problems installing drivers for my graphics card via the intel graphnics installer for linux. It fails on installing packages.
[19:28] <directhex> Banana_: file a bug with intel, they'll forward it to the guy who makes the installer
[19:32] <Banana_> it wont let me install drivers... it says the follow packahes have unmet dependencies
[19:33] <Banana_> and at the end it says it is a virtual package
[19:42] <Banana_> is there a another method to install intel drivers on ubuntu?
[19:45] <directhex> Banana_: what's the problem with the ones installed by default?
[19:45] <Banana_> i was full support
[19:46] <Banana_> i mean i want full support
[19:46] <Banana_> as in i want all the drivers
[19:46] <directhex> um
[19:46] <directhex> the only difference between the intel driver in ubuntu and the intel driver via the installer is possibly (but not always) the intel download is a bit newer
[19:46] <directhex> there's no actual feature difference
[19:49] <Banana_> okay, one more things, when i try to install some things i sometimes get this E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:03] <davmor2> bigcalm: how's the spy camera?
[20:03] <directhex> Banana_: "apt-get -f install" should fix those cases
[20:04] <Banana_> do i put apt-get -f install in terminal or do i put the program name in after install and than press enter?
[20:05] <directhex> just "apt-get -f install"
[20:05] <Banana_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:05] <directhex> it will likely propose removing whichever broken package you suggested installing
[20:05] <directhex> sigh.
[20:05] <davmor2> Banana_: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:05] <directhex> stick sudo at the start. sysadmin tasks need to be done as root
[20:05] <Banana_> oh
[20:06] <Banana_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:07] <directhex> are you running a package install in another window?
[20:08] <Banana_> no, i only have one terminal running
[20:08] <davmor2> Banana_: do you have Software Center open too?
[20:08] <Banana_> no, i dont have software center running.
[20:09] <Banana_> i have firewall ?
[20:10] <Banana_> hey i fixed it
[20:11] <Banana_> i installed it
[20:11] <davmor2> \o/
[20:11] <Banana_> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 15 not to upgrade.
[20:11] <Banana_> right?
[20:12] <Banana_> should i install the package
[20:12] <Banana_> now
[20:14] <directhex> which package?
[20:15] <Banana_> nevermind, i still have the same problem
[20:15] <Banana_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:16] <Banana_> i hardly can install packages because most of the time that shows uo
[20:20] <directhex> it shows up because your package database is currently broken
[20:20] <directhex> and you aren't fixing it
[20:20] <directhex> let's give this another go. although i'm well beyond my usual limit.
[20:21] <directhex> what does "ps | grep dpkg" say? that'll tell you if the package manager is already running, which it seems to think it is
[20:21] <Banana_> in terminal
[20:23] <Banana_> do i do that in terminal
[20:24] <elfy> yes
[20:24] <Banana_> nothing shows up
[20:25] <directhex> ok, good.
[20:25] <directhex> and "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[20:26] <Banana_> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 15 not to upgrade.
[20:27] <directhex> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[20:28] <Banana_> Install these packages without verification? [y/N]
[20:28] <directhex> which packages?
[20:28] <Banana_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:29] <Banana_> do i
[20:29] <ChloeWolfieGirl> EH I got a desktop today, and I've been trying to get it to work, I removed the battery and put it on to make it power up via the power button, its plugged in, on board graphics removed the off board graphics card, and it shows No Signal, it doesn't say anything about BIOS or my live disk, just No Signal, I've searched on google and just get answers for dual monitors with windows, and I honestly don't know what
[20:29] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I'm doing anymore! xD ;-;
[20:30] <Banana_> do desktops have batterys?
[20:30] <directhex> Banana_: you don't know this stuff well enough to know which info is essential and which is not, so assume everything is. use paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[20:31] <Banana_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10691279/
[20:31] <directhex> Banana_: a watch battery is used to save BIOS settings
[20:32] <Banana_> a watch battery? you mean those small cycle type
[20:32] <directhex> Banana_: ok, i think "Y" is okay here.
[20:33] <ali1234> why can't they be verified?
[20:33] <directhex> they'll be coming fro the 01 repo, which is broken somehow for this user
[20:33] <shauno> he said he was trying to upgrade his intel drivers.  they look suspiciously related to this
[20:33] <Banana_> i installed it
[20:33] <ali1234> 01 repo?
[20:34] <directhex> 01.org is intel's foss hub
[20:34] <ali1234> oh. and they don't sign their packages?
[20:34] <Banana_> no no, eh i think i didnt make myself clear but you said they look suspiciously related to this so i think it will work
[20:35] <Banana_> i said i have a another problems with installing things in terms of 'sudo thingy'
[20:35] <Banana_> god my grammar is bad, it always say e: you have broken packages
[20:36] <Banana_> most of the time
[20:38] <Banana_> like this -:> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[20:38] <Banana_> but you did say this problem may link to the reason why i cant install intel packages
[20:42] <Banana_> did i make myself clear did i confuse you lot
[20:52] <mapps> finally got a collection card
[20:52] <mapps> now just hav o get it on monday
[20:52] <mapps> *to
[21:05] <elfy> Banana_: did the not being able to install anything come first?
[21:05] <elfy> do you have a load of odd ppa's?
[21:06] <elfy> you'd certainly need to deal with the broken packages before you can even think about installing this intel stuff
[21:09] <mapps> i couldve got it today but they posted it to the wrong mailbox
[21:09] <mapps> grrr
[21:16] <elfy> mapps: yea but anticipation :)
[21:17] <elfy> I was pleased to get the nexus thingy - got that for testing stuff, need to catch up with popey at some point
[21:17] <mapps> hopefully...my nexus7 is charging
[21:17] <mapps> its a REAL PAIN everytime i let it run down completely
[21:18] <mapps> didn't mean to forgot to check it
[21:18]  * elfy had an odd just telling me the date thing the other day
[21:22] <mapps> ilets see how much it charged
[21:32] <mapps> just cant get proxypass t work
[21:40] <bashrc> are you on nginx?
[21:42] <mapps> nope apache
[21:42] <mapps> i've got qwebirc on http://127.0.0.1:9090 -external host http://parrots.zapto.org - using a ProxyPass and PorxyPassReverse to http;//parrots.zapto.org/newtest
[21:43] <mapps> BUT it doesn't work right..if you view the source you can see it's loading something but not properly;/
[21:43] <mapps> any idea on what i could be doing wrong..if you lad the newtest link youll see what i mean
[21:43] <mapps> stuck or ideas ..qwebirc loads fine loading it locally i just want to make it accesible via main web server using proxypass
[21:44] <bashrc> I had a lot of trouble with apache - especially performance and proxying. nginx was a easier
[21:44] <mapps> i had it working before;/
[21:45] <shauno> what are you seeing in view-source?  can you paste that somewhere?
[21:45] <mapps> just the html
[21:45] <mapps> where it tries to load the css etc
[21:45] <mapps> its the qwebirc page but sec
[21:47] <mapps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10691746
[21:48] <mapps> theres what /newtest has as view source which is the main page for qweb irc which would be shown when going to localhost:9090
[21:48] <intrbiz> mapps: ProxyPassReverse doesn't edit any of the page content
[21:48] <mapps> and it works fine accessing localhost:9090 i just ant it proxied so i can access it via normal web site
[21:48] <intrbiz> ProxyPassReverse merely edits Location headers
[21:48] <mapps> i didnt say it did..didt mean to if i did
[21:49] <shauno> hm, this where it's trying to fire the js .. "baseURL":"http://parrots.zapto.org:9090"
[21:49] <mapps> should i not be doing it how i was trying? I had PoryxPass /newtest http://localhost:9090
[21:49] <mapps> proxypassreverse /ewtest
[21:49] <shauno> that likely doesn't work.  you might want to see if you can set baseURL to just http://parrots.zapto.org/ in the config somewhere?
[21:49] <mapps> ya thats BaseURL in config.py should that be localhost:9090 then?!
[21:50] <mapps> i did and that didn't work shauno ;(
[21:50] <intrbiz> mapps: those two lines are have you need for proxying
[21:50] <mapps> localhost:9090 is how you'd access it locally
[21:50] <intrbiz> mapps: looks like you base url in the config should be your external url
[21:50] <shauno> I'm only assuming, but I think that should be an address accessible from outside the proxy
[21:50] <mapps> hmm
[21:50] <intrbiz> if you need the proxy to alter things like that, you need to use mod_substitute
[21:50] <mapps> i tried that..i tried http://parrots.zapto.org/qweb/ - where qweb is the folder in /var/www that has qweb src - is that what you mean?
[21:51] <shauno> if you have a proxypass for /qweb too :)
[21:51] <intrbiz> probably
[21:52] <mapps> hmm i need a proxypass for qweb too? hm lets see
[21:52] <mapps> http://parrots.zapto.org/newtest external url localhost:9090 on the fs /var/www/qweb where the files are O_O
[21:53] <mapps> so i need to set baseurl to /qweb intrbiz do i need a proxypass for qweb?
[21:53] <shauno> I think what I'd do, is open chrome, open the web inspector, and go to the 'network' tab
[21:54] <mapps> yea
[21:54] <shauno> then try to load the page, and look for all the red entries in list of network resources.  and figure out why your proxy config isn't routing those requests to the right place
[21:55] <shauno> because I suspect that's what's going on .. if the script tries to load something from /qweb/, and you only have /newtest as a proxy route, /qweb doesn't exist externally
[21:55] <mapps> ok:)
[21:55] <mapps> lets see if i can fix it
[21:55] <mapps> ye
[21:55] <mapps> i see
[21:55] <shauno> (or if it's still writing the port number into requests, or blah blah blah)
[21:56] <mapps> hm
[21:56] <mapps> felt a lot easier before;0
[21:57] <shauno> it always feels easier when it works :)