[04:40] <Kilos> morning za peeps
[04:52] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[05:47] <barrydk> More almal
[05:47] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[06:19] <Padroni> Mornig all
[06:19] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[06:20] <Padroni> hoe gaan dit?
[06:20] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[06:20] <Padroni> good
[06:20] <Padroni> I see 15.04 is out 
[06:21] <Kilos> officially?
[06:22] <Kilos> isnt that a beta
[06:22] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/ubuntu-15-04-release-schedule-date-vivid-vervet
[06:22] <Padroni> yes
[06:22] <Kilos> they dont install same
[06:22] <Kilos> or they install same but are different
[06:23] <Kilos> official release is more polished 
[06:24] <Padroni> I'll wait for the official release
[06:24] <Kilos> ya better
[06:24] <Padroni> I think this is going to be the last distro before Ubuntu goes commercial
[06:24] <Padroni> I have it on good authority that Canonical sold ubuntu last year already
[06:24] <Kilos> what does that mean
[06:24] <Padroni> From what I gather, it is going to be a paid-for OS soon
[06:25] <Kilos> no man
[06:25] <Padroni> I will see what I can dig up on that
[06:25] <Kilos> you stirring the pot or what?
[06:25] <Padroni> but like I said - I heard it from a very reliable source
[06:25] <Padroni> no, I am not.
[06:25] <Kilos> mark said ubuntu will always be free
[06:25] <Padroni> I have had this info for about 5 or 6 months now
[06:26] <Kilos> oh my
[06:26] <Padroni> it could be that it won't go commercial
[06:26] <Padroni> but I heard otherwise
[06:35] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:36] <Kilos> hi mazal  SilverCode  
[06:40] <SilverCode> hi Kilos
[06:50] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:50] <inetpro> Padroni: you mean the Ericsson deal?
[06:50] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[06:52] <inetpro> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/03/26/ericsson-and-canonical-partner-to-drive-cloud-innovation/
[06:54] <Padroni> no,, that's not what I was referring to.
[06:54] <Padroni> I will go back to my source and get more info 
[06:59] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:00] <Kilos> and pieter2627  
[07:00] <pieter2627> Hi all
[07:04]  * Kilos sulks
[07:06] <Padroni> why?
[07:07] <Kilos> old grumpy did hi me personally
[07:08] <Kilos> not 
[07:08] <Kilos> too busy googling
[07:11] <Kilos> Padroni  why dont you go game here 
[07:11] <Kilos> http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=438&m=453&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=10034&l=-http--mygaming.co.za/news/hardware/73549-big-prizes-up-for-grabs-on-mygaming.html
[07:12] <Kilos> sjoe thats a long one
[07:12] <Kilos> you can win stuff at least
[07:12] <Padroni> I'm too old
[07:12] <Kilos> oh my
[07:12] <Padroni> and by that, I mean, that as a gamer, you peak in your early 20's
[07:13] <Padroni> at that age, your hand-eye co-ordination and reaction times are at it's peak
[07:13] <Kilos> try man
[07:13] <Padroni> also
[07:13] <Padroni> to compete at that level
[07:13] <Padroni> you need to spend hours daily practicing.  Which I don't have the time for.
[07:13] <mazal> What game ? ( too lazy to check the link )
[07:14] <Kilos> i dunno i just saw you can win Stand a chance of winning a GALAX GeForce GTX 960
[07:14] <Kilos> graphics stuff is expensive
[07:18] <mazal> Oe nice card that
[07:19] <Padroni> i have a GTX 660 in my laptop
[07:19] <Padroni> works like a charm
[07:20] <mazal> I have the GTX760
[07:20] <mazal> I like the green team :)
[07:22] <mazal> It will have to last a long time though. Can't afford gaming hardware in SA anymore
[07:25] <Kilos> thats why i said try play for the ting
[07:25] <Kilos> thing
[07:26] <Kilos> me has a lowly 210
[07:26] <Kilos> but it works
[07:29] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[07:29] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[07:37] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  
[07:37] <nlsthzn> o/
[07:42] <nuvolari> \o
[07:42] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[07:42] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  
[08:16]  * Kilos waves to superfly
[08:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[08:18] <mazal> Morning ThatGraemeGuy
[08:20] <superfly> morning
[08:34] <nuvolari> bah! :'( latest intellij is freezing up every now and then
[08:40] <nuvolari> superfly: have you upgraded yet?
[08:47] <Kilos> hi psyatw  
[08:47] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[08:51] <Kilos> hi magellanic  
[08:54] <superfly> nuvolari: upgraded what?
[08:55] <magellanic> hey all
[08:55]  * superfly is upgrading all sorts of things
[08:55] <superfly> hi magellanic
[09:03] <nuvolari> superfly: intellij
[09:13] <superfly> nuvolari: ah. I'm not using vanilla IntelliJ, I'm using PyCharm. It's pretty stable
[09:19] <nuvolari> superfly: right. OK, thanks
[11:07] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:17] <DarkSurferZA> yo
[11:19] <Kilos> hi DarkSurferZA  
[11:19] <DarkSurferZA> hey kilos
[12:00] <Kilos> hi drussell  
[12:01] <drussell> Kilos: hey! Happy Friday :oD
[12:01] <Kilos> yay
[12:45] <Kilos> hopefully clouds not just building for the fun of it
[12:52] <Kilos> no squirm or trixarza
[14:01] <Kilos> inetpro  you here?
[14:38] <Kilos> Padroni  you sick?
[14:54] <Padroni> That depends - in what context?
[14:56] <Kilos> well you been so quiet today something not right
[15:03] <Kilos> Maaz  tell mopkop you are keeping me in suspense hey
[15:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell mopkop on freenode
[16:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:15]  * Squirm looks around
[16:15] <Kilos> hi Squirm  what are you guys doing to the bot
[16:15] <Squirm> Kilos: Uh
[16:15] <Squirm> I don't know how to tell you this
[16:15] <Kilos> trixar gone as well
[16:15] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <Squirm> But it's gone
[16:16] <Kilos> the server?
[16:16] <Squirm> Yep
[16:16] <Squirm> Alles
[16:16] <Kilos> oh my cant you get the bots files first?
[16:16] <Squirm> Nope. We lost all of our data
[16:16] <Kilos> oh my
[16:17] <Kilos> ok ill start looking for another server
[16:17] <Kilos> np
[16:17] <Squirm> So the guy who was running it never paid for 20 days. Obviously, we don't get those emails, so we didn;t know
[16:17] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:17] <Squirm> Sorry Kilos
[16:17] <Squirm> So they killed the account
[16:17] <Squirm> Gone
[16:17] <Squirm> *poof*
[16:17] <Kilos> np Squirm  
[16:18] <Squirm> Luckily for us, we know better hey Kilos. I'm sure you had a copy of the config
[16:18] <Kilos> not the latest lol
[16:18] <Squirm> :P
[16:18] <Kilos> i have lost that version of the bot
[16:18] <Squirm> No crontab exporting it to an alternative location?
[16:18] <Squirm> ;)
[16:19] <Kilos> i didnt even think man, it was running yesterday 
[16:19] <Squirm> Yeah, we lost our IRC server and all of its configs. Along with my IMBot
[16:19] <Squirm> I think I have a slightly older copy
[16:19] <Squirm> and a copy of the configs, somewhere
[16:19] <Squirm> Yeah, it died last night
[16:19] <Squirm> Like I said *poof* gone
[16:19] <Squirm> :/
[16:19] <Kilos> lol not serious, ibids learn easy
[16:20] <Kilos> georgl  has the package i was using i think
[16:20] <Kilos> you even left my channel
[16:20] <Squirm> Ok
[16:21] <Squirm> It was my bouncer running
[16:21] <Squirm> Oh
[16:21] <Squirm> Yeah
[16:21] <Squirm> I cut down on all of my channels
[16:21] <Squirm> Too much going on on IRC
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:21] <Squirm> Cut down Facebook and IRC
[16:21] <Squirm> To certain people/channels
[16:21] <Kilos> i try just have ubuntu channels open now
[16:21] <Kilos> i dont do fb
[16:22] <Squirm> I'm in #ubuntu-za, #glug-za and #minetest-za and 2 channels on my server and 2 on another server, linux based channels
[16:22] <Kilos> on the odd occasion when i need pg stuff i skype with my supplier
[16:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:23] <Squirm> Now to get my znc up on my linode
[16:23] <Kilos> ##kilos #minetest-za #ubuntu-africa #ubuntu-locoteams #ubuntu-za
[16:23] <Squirm> Kilos: If I find I have enough badwidth/processing power on their, I can create you an account
[16:23] <Squirm> Ok
[16:25] <Kilos> not serious atm Squirm  i have georgl  s bot in my channel and the africa channel but i need to still get some permissions i think
[16:25] <Kilos> thanks for hosting it till now anyway
[16:26] <Squirm> Np
[16:26] <Kilos> maybe i can also beg ThatGraemeGuy  to host it by hetzner
[16:27] <Squirm> Lol
[16:28] <Squirm> bbiab
[16:35] <Kilos> wb Squirm  
[16:36] <Squirm> Hehe
[16:36] <Squirm> I guess that means my znc is up
[16:36] <Squirm> Damn firewall
[16:36] <Kilos> haha
[16:37] <Squirm> Cool
[16:39] <Kilos> what ever happened to kodez
[16:40] <Kilos> hi barrydk  gaming again?
[16:40] <barrydk> hi Kilos almost
[17:43] <Kilos> superfly  have you done the ubuntu member email thing yet?
[17:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:21] <Kilos> inetpro  rtfs 
[18:22] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[18:35] <superfly> Kilos: no, I don't really care for one using my current launchpad username
[18:35] <Kilos> oh k ty
[18:36] <Kilos> big job 
[19:15] <inetpro> good evening
[19:15] <Kilos> lo pro
[19:20] <inetpro> Kilos: did you get my email?
[19:21] <Kilos> lemme check
[19:21] <Kilos> haha ya
[19:21] <inetpro> so what the problem is?
[19:21] <Kilos> very informative
[19:22] <Kilos> with what?
[19:23] <inetpro> Kilos: what does the email say?
[19:23] <Kilos> test
[19:23] <inetpro> no
[19:24] <inetpro> I mean the subject?
[19:24] <Kilos> testing testing 123
[19:24] <inetpro> and the destination address?
[19:24] <inetpro> or the TO address?
[19:25] <Kilos> oh my
[19:25] <Kilos> how did that happen
[19:25] <inetpro> ai!
[19:25] <inetpro> been working all the time man
[19:25] <Kilos> but i never set it up?
[19:25] <inetpro> you don't have to do anything
[19:25] <Kilos> oh
[19:26] <Kilos> then the flies must also be working
[19:26] <Kilos> oh no 
[19:26] <Kilos> he uses diff one
[19:26] <inetpro> unless you want to send emails from msdomdonner AT ubuntu.com
[19:27] <Kilos> ya that i was looking at
[19:27] <Kilos> do you just set it at gmail
[19:28] <Kilos> no need for postfix thing
[19:28] <inetpro> no, why?
[19:29] <Kilos> dont answer a question with a question'
[19:29] <inetpro> I want to know
[19:29] <Kilos> man i went to many links
[19:29] <Kilos> googled me sick
[19:29] <inetpro> ai!
[19:29] <Kilos> and some said install postfix
[19:30] <Kilos> with lots of heavy stuff to do
[19:31] <inetpro> why?
[19:32] <Kilos> i dunno thats why im asking you
[19:32] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:33] <Kilos> do i just follow the 10 20 and so on on gmail to set it up
[19:33] <Kilos> 1) 2)
[19:34] <Squirm> Kilos: what do you want to do?
[19:34] <inetpro> why?
[19:35] <Kilos> send mail from me with ubuntu.com addy
[19:35] <Squirm> and where do you receive the mail?
[19:36] <Kilos> here on evo 
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: you're using Evolution
[19:36] <Kilos> ya
[19:36] <inetpro> so just change the from address in Evolution
[19:37] <inetpro> or set up a 2nd From address
[19:37] <Kilos> oh no need to do all that stuff at gmail?
[19:37] <Squirm> Kilos: Does the ubuntu email redirect somewhere?
[19:37] <Squirm> Or is it an account
[19:38] <inetpro> Squirm: it's not an account
[19:38] <Kilos> it says something about an alias
[19:38] <Squirm> I mean, does it redirect to your personal address?
[19:38] <inetpro> it is simply Ubuntu forwarding to his Gmail account as set in his LP account
[19:38] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[19:38] <Kilos> nothing simple
[19:39] <inetpro> very simple
[19:39] <Squirm> Right
[19:39] <Squirm> That's simple then
[19:39] <Squirm> Simple on GMail and should be simple in evolution
[19:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:40] <Squirm> Kilos: maybe something like this
[19:40] <Squirm> http://askubuntu.com/questions/362354/change-reply-to-in-evolution
[19:40] <Squirm> Look at the answer
[19:40] <Kilos> ok
[19:40] <Squirm> It's how to create an alias. So you'd select your GMail account
[19:40] <Squirm> and your alias would be your ubuntu address
[19:41] <Kilos> thats also hard to understand actually
[19:41] <Kilos> i have gmail
[19:41] <Kilos> i have a launchpad id
[19:42] <Kilos> but where will the mails go to on launchpad
[19:42] <inetpro> Kilos: you did get my mail, not!?
[19:42] <Squirm> If I send an email to your Ubuntu address, where will it go?
[19:43] <Kilos> yes inetpro  what addy did you send it to
[19:43] <inetpro> obviously to the address as you can see in the TO field
[19:43] <Kilos> i dunno Squirm  , dont i have to tell gmail to send it via buntu
[19:44] <Squirm> No
[19:44] <Squirm> Well, you have to tell your mail client what email address to send from
[19:44] <Squirm> Be it Evolution or gmail
[19:44] <inetpro> Kilos: you can tell your girl in ozziland or anyone on the planet, to send your messages to msdomdonner AT ubuntu.com
[19:44] <Squirm> the ubuntu address is just an alias, which means it just receives the mail and bounces it along
[19:44] <inetpro> and they will land in your gmail inbox
[19:45] <Squirm> bounces it to your gmail inbox
[19:45] <Kilos> oh
[19:45] <Squirm> you need to tell evolution that you actually own the address and want to send an email as that address
[19:45] <Kilos> but when i send its still gmail?
[19:45] <Squirm> Yes
[19:45] <inetpro> nou praat ons
[19:45] <Squirm> except you're telling gmail you're actually msdomdonner AT ubuntu.com
[19:46] <Kilos> oh so i must just set something in evo
[19:46] <Squirm> So when you compose a mail, evlutio will give you a choice
[19:46] <Squirm> Yes
[19:46] <Squirm> Set up an alias in evolution
[19:46] <Kilos> there it is again
[19:46] <Squirm> Which is what that link showed, step by step
[19:46] <Kilos> that alias thing
[19:46] <Squirm> Yes
[19:47] <Kilos> ok lemme read that
[19:47] <Squirm> and alias just receives the mail and sends it on to an inbox
[19:47] <Squirm> it's a forwarder
[19:47] <Squirm> it grabs it and sends it straight away
[19:47] <Kilos> is it a bad thing to do?
[19:47] <Squirm> No
[19:48] <Squirm> So for example, at work, I have 1 Inbox. In this one inbox, I can receive emails from about 5 different aliases
[19:48] <Squirm> But I still only have 1 inbox
[19:49] <Kilos> oh
[19:49] <Squirm> I then just have to tell my client, which aliases I'll have. So I'll receive the emails regardless, I just need to let the client know which one I want to send from
[19:50] <Squirm> Kilos: feel better now?
[19:50] <Kilos> not yet
[19:50] <Squirm> Where are you stuck?
[19:50] <Kilos> let me get it working first
[19:50] <Squirm> Ok
[19:50] <Kilos> im still reading
[19:50] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <Kilos> do i set it up here where it says to enter this
[19:54] <Kilos> Enter the name, mail address 1, reply-to. Push "Next".
[19:55] <Kilos> mail addy will be the ubuntu one and reply tp my standard gmail?
[19:55] <Kilos> s/tp/to
[19:55] <Squirm> No
[19:56] <Squirm> the mail addy is ubuntu
[19:56] <Squirm> leave out the reply-to
[19:56] <Kilos> ok
[19:58] <Kilos> ai!
[19:59] <Kilos> now it wants server info
[19:59] <superfly> inetpro: yes
[20:00] <inetpro> superfly: ah, so it's working for you also!?
[20:00] <superfly> yes
[20:00] <inetpro> cool
[20:00] <superfly> that's what they said
[20:00] <Squirm> Kilos: You shouldn't have to
[20:01]  * inetpro would just leave the sending part 
[20:01] <Kilos> Squirm  it didnt need it for gmail but it shows nothing for msdomdonner@ubuntu.com
[20:01] <Kilos> ya i think thats easier inetpro  
[20:01] <Squirm> Kilos: What do you mean?
[20:02] <Kilos> when i entered a gmail addy squirm it auto showed the server info
[20:02] <Squirm> I don't think evolution does it properly
[20:03] <Squirm> It's super simple in thunderbird
[20:03] <Squirm> and on mail.google.com
[20:03] <Kilos> ya that was good in thunderbird , but theyve made evo do it as well for normal addies
[20:05] <Kilos> na ive cancelled everything
[20:05] <Kilos> ty for the help Squirm  
[20:05] <superfly> no, all mail clients support alternate identities
[20:05] <superfly> Kilos: you don't try to add another mail account, you add an alias or an identity
[20:07] <inetpro> Kilos: one day when I'm a member and I'm bored I will install evolution on a VM and test it for you
[20:07] <Kilos> ill look at that tomorrow maybe superfly  ty, but for now ill maar stay me at gmail
[20:07] <Kilos> lol
[20:07] <Kilos> you dont have time to get bored
[20:08] <Kilos> im adding in thew place where you add normal accounts atm, maybe thats where i sukkel but better i leave it for now
[20:09] <Kilos> please someone give me the swapon commands 
[20:09] <Kilos> oom jan lost them
[20:09] <inetpro> ai!
[20:09] <Kilos> sudo swapon ?
[20:09] <Kilos> -a
[20:09] <Kilos> ya
[20:10] <Kilos> sudo swapon -a
[20:10] <Kilos> right?
[20:10] <inetpro> man swapon
[20:10] <Kilos> grrrr
[20:11] <inetpro> How to empty swap if there is free RAM? http://askubuntu.com/questions/1357/how-to-empty-swap-if-there-is-free-ram
[20:12] <Kilos> haha he gets 2 mails
[20:13] <inetpro> he?
[20:13] <Kilos> i dunno why he dont come here or use lists
[20:14] <Kilos> well i send one with sudo swapon -a and the secong with your link
[20:14] <inetpro> ai!
[20:15] <Kilos> must be my smiley face
[20:18] <Kilos> we have even been members for 2 full months yet so maybe the board thing is out of the question
[20:21] <Kilos> inetpro  wat skinner jy en vlieg
[20:21] <Kilos> wat werk vir julle
[20:22] <inetpro> Kilos: I sent him a test message in the same way that I sent one to you
[20:22] <Kilos> aha
[20:22] <Kilos> so you send them straight to ubuntu
[20:22] <Kilos> lp addy
[20:23] <inetpro> Kilos: 03/27 21:44:45 <inetpro> Kilos: you can tell your girl in ozziland or anyone on the planet, to send your messages to msdomdonner AT ubuntu.com
[20:23] <Kilos> blow your nose and move to the top of the class
[20:23] <inetpro> put that address on your business card
[20:24] <Kilos> hi bertus  
[20:25] <inetpro> Kilos: you can even put that address on your wiki page
[20:25] <Kilos> why does that name sound familiar
[20:25] <Kilos> hehe
[20:25] <inetpro> but don't change your LP address to it
[20:26] <Kilos> uh oh
[20:33] <bertus> hey guys 
[20:33] <bertus> hi kilos how are you, Kilos 
[20:34] <Kilos> im well ty bertus  and you?
[20:34] <Kilos> you been here before hey?
[20:34] <bertus> dude you remember me? 
[20:35] <Kilos> the name ya
[20:35] <bertus> like a year ago, when this linux journey started
[20:35] <Kilos> welcome back
[20:35] <Kilos> are you winning
[20:35] <bertus> thx bro just wanted to drop in, and check whats happening here 
[20:36] <bertus> yea bro loving it, im on arch now 
[20:36] <Kilos> we doing lots of things you should join us daily not once a year
[20:36] <bertus> cool 
[20:36] <bertus> switch between arch and manjaro 
[20:36] <Kilos> add this channel to you favourites
[20:37] <Kilos> you in to the heavy stuff hey
[20:38] <bertus> what are you running these days?
[20:38] <Kilos> kubuntu 14.04 for a year now
[20:38] <Kilos> everything works and nothing breaks
[20:38] <bertus> what do you think about plasma 5?
[20:39] <bertus> okay, stable man i see
[20:39] <Kilos> i have got there yet
[20:39] <Kilos> will go there with 16.04
[20:39] <bertus> lol 
[20:39] <Kilos> ya im too dom to keep fixing things
[20:39] <bertus> no bro 
[20:40] <bertus> but i totally get it 
[20:40] <Kilos> lol
[20:40] <bertus> have you tried cool retro term?
[20:40] <Kilos> nope whats that
[20:40] <bertus> if you use terminals a lot?
[20:42] <bertus> https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
[20:42] <bertus> check it out 
[20:42] <Kilos> i use terminal for running iftop and updates 
[20:43] <Kilos> hahaha i use gui most of the time
[20:44] <Kilos> why did you take a year to remember us
[20:44] <Kilos> sies man
[20:46] <bertus> i just havent used ubuntu in since 14.04 xubuntu 
[20:46] <Kilos> as long as you are using linux you are welcome here
[20:47] <bertus> yes always, thx bro 
[20:47] <bertus> so whats news?
[20:47] <Kilos> we have a new site
[20:47] <bertus> why do you like kde so much?
[20:48] <bertus> site plz?
[20:48] <Kilos> it grows on you
[20:48] <bertus> what can i do to help?
[20:48] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org/
[20:49] <Kilos> we are building an africa site as well. will know next week how far it is
[20:49] <Kilos> i think the working guys dont come here weekends
[20:50] <bertus> yea you know if all the schools in sa just started using ubuntu as standard that would save millions in sa
[20:51] <bertus> hospitals, schools, etc should really drop windows in favour of ubuntu 
[20:51] <bertus> all the software they need is there
[20:51] <Kilos> yes we are working on a project to maybe get that going too
[20:52] <Kilos> you can look at that if inetpro  can find the links
[20:52] <Kilos> inetpro  the links williamk left here at the meeting please
[20:52] <bertus> am looking around on the site nw
[20:53] <Kilos> nice fast site hey
[20:53] <Kilos> my fly made it
[21:00] <bertus>  fly?
[21:01] <Kilos> superfly
[21:01] <Kilos> and hes making an even nicer one for my africa project
[21:04] <bertus> cool 
[21:04] <bertus> brb 
[21:04] <Kilos> there is lots of work for peeps on holiday and bored at home
[21:17] <Kilos> Maaz  minutes
[21:17] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
[21:17] <Kilos> lol
[21:21] <Kilos> i must go sleep. 
[21:21] <Kilos> bertus  come back tomorrow
[21:21] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:28] <bertus> cheers bro's im out