| bluesabre | I'm thinking it might be a good idea to incorporate the patch at the end of this bug in vivid/PPAs, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11450 | 01:11 |
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| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11450 in core "Thunar 1.64, 1.65, & 1.66 crash when moving files" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 01:11 |
| Unit193 | I snagged the exo patch. :P | 01:19 |
| ochosi | (late) evening folks | 01:21 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 01:21 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: which one? | 01:21 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: how's it goin? | 01:41 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: not too bad | 01:42 |
| bluesabre | packaging that fix for thunar, and then will probably do some uploads | 01:43 |
| ochosi | is there a working fix already? | 01:43 |
| ochosi | i skipped the backlog about that the last few days | 01:43 |
| ochosi | it seemed to go rambling on and on and on... | 01:44 |
| bluesabre | some confirmed a fix that was applied today | 01:44 |
| bluesabre | and then emailed me directly to get it fixed in ubuntu :P | 01:44 |
| bluesabre | so I'm going to do some testing on it | 01:44 |
| ochosi | heh ok | 01:45 |
| ochosi | that is some user initiative there | 01:45 |
| bluesabre | indeed :D | 01:45 |
| bluesabre | and now we're in bug-hunting/fixing mode for vivid, so that's going to be fun | 01:46 |
| ochosi | so vivid bugfixing is your main focus atm? | 01:49 |
| bluesabre | don't really have a main focus, if anything, its been hard to focus the past few days | 01:49 |
| ochosi | :) | 01:50 |
| ochosi | me neither, was too busy with RL work | 01:50 |
| bluesabre | maybe I'll test the gtk3 exo, see if I can package it one way or another, and do a 0.11 release | 01:50 |
| ochosi | would like to work on some ports for xfce again | 01:50 |
| bluesabre | also need to figure out the xfce_spawn_on_screen issue in exo 0.10.4 | 01:51 |
| ochosi | eric ported garcon | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | nice | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | xfce-dev has been so active I have not been able to keep up | 01:52 |
| ochosi | the screenshot in the roadmap isn't the most recent though | 01:52 |
| ochosi | the padding has been fixed | 01:52 |
| ochosi | garcon was really a comparably easy port | 01:52 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Unable to focus, need glasses? | 01:52 |
| knome | ah ah | 01:53 |
| ochosi | anyway, gotta hit the sack | 01:53 |
| knome | ochosi, which one? | 01:53 |
| knome | ah ah! | 01:53 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: :P | 01:53 |
| ochosi | can't focus anymore and my glasses don't help anymore | 01:53 |
| ochosi | knome: yours obviously | 01:53 |
| ochosi | night all! | 01:53 |
| knome | ouch | 01:53 |
| bluesabre | night ochosi | 01:53 |
| bluesabre | welllllp, not fixed, or new bug on https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11450 | 02:13 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11450 in core "Thunar 1.64, 1.65, & 1.66 crash when moving files" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 02:13 |
| elfy | so - did anyone actually bother with a release note ? | 07:08 |
| elfy | xfpm crashing apparently - not reportable, ppa's ... | 07:14 |
| ochosi | morning elfy | 07:24 |
| elfy | morning ochosi | 07:25 |
| ochosi | no, i dropped the ball there a bit i guess | 07:25 |
| ochosi | somehow you had such a good grip on the release notes so far that they weren't really on my radar | 07:25 |
| elfy | knome and bluesabre were looking at it | 07:26 |
| ochosi | is there a pad? | 07:27 |
| elfy | ochosi: the draft is at xorg | 07:27 |
| * ochosi looks | 07:28 | |
| elfy | I put in the basics and linked to the wiki notes yesterday | 07:28 |
| ochosi | wasn't there another known issue? | 07:28 |
| elfy | just needs the nice writing written :) | 07:28 |
| ochosi | i think sean said something about a freeze of ubiquity at the end | 07:29 |
| elfy | there's an OEM issue | 07:29 |
| elfy | yea - that's really the same issue | 07:29 |
| ochosi | plus he said we have icons on the desktop in the ubiquity-only session | 07:29 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 07:29 |
| elfy | yea - I saw those but didsn't actually take much notice of that :( | 07:29 |
| ochosi | right, that we have to fix | 07:30 |
| ochosi | i mean specifically we | 07:30 |
| elfy | yep | 07:30 |
| ochosi | still wondering whether we should use something other than xfdesktop to draw that background... | 07:30 |
| elfy | ochosi: doesn't seem to be a bug for that - I'll do one now - what to report against? | 07:34 |
| ochosi | not sure, maybe xubuntu-default-settings | 07:35 |
| ochosi | or -meta | 07:35 |
| elfy | ok - don't suppose it matters much as it'll be internal anyway | 07:35 |
| Unit193 | Can't we just pretend it isn't happening? :( | 07:35 |
| elfy | well if bluesabre hadn't said anything it was going in one eye and out the other here :p | 07:36 |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 07:36 |
| Unit193 | Next time someone gets a chance, open a terminal there and dump the env to a pastebin? | 07:37 |
| elfy | we know now though ... /o\ | 07:37 |
| elfy | booting it now Unit193 | 07:37 |
| Unit193 | (Someone = me if it's not done by the weekend and I remember it.) | 07:37 |
| ochosi | i don't remember how we created specific settings for xfdesktop just for the ubiquity only session | 07:38 |
| ochosi | with xfwm4 it was easy, just a startup command to disable the compositor | 07:38 |
| Unit193 | Did we ever? | 07:42 |
| elfy | bug 1437180 | 07:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1437180 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Desktop Icons show on the install only desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437180 | 07:42 |
| ochosi | Unit193: dunno, i'm wondering though why the icons didn't show up from the start | 07:45 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: xfdesktop4 4.11 vs 4.12? | 07:45 |
| ochosi | hm, not sure there was any change in that department | 07:47 |
| ochosi | then again i wouldn't notice, i don't use icons on the desktop ever | 07:48 |
| ochosi | elfy: updated the draft a little | 07:48 |
| elfy | ok | 07:48 |
| ochosi | do we have more known issues or stuff we need to add there? | 07:48 |
| elfy | there are a couple still kicking about - but the one we need to note is the eject/reboot issue | 07:49 |
| elfy | I was expecting trumpets and fanfares on the xorg post re 3.12 :p | 07:49 |
| elfy | s/4.12 | 07:50 |
| ochosi | yeah, could do a separate post, not sure the release announcement is the best place for fanfares | 07:51 |
| ochosi | but feel free to extend what i've written there up to now, i'm a bit tired so maybe not in the fanfare-mood for that reason | 07:52 |
| elfy | I'm not *that* worried | 07:52 |
| ochosi | also, the current double-reference to the known issue is a bit confusing | 07:52 |
| ochosi | and maybe we should move the link to detailed notes at the very bottom | 07:52 |
| elfy | I thought you were too tired :) | 07:56 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - I removed the double reference - left it at the top as a warning | 08:03 |
| elfy | changed known issues to just be link to the wiki - which makes sense I guess | 08:03 |
| ochosi | uhm now there's another more obvious duplication | 08:05 |
| ochosi | or are you still working on the pageß | 08:05 |
| ochosi | ? | 08:05 |
| elfy | nope | 08:05 |
| ochosi | highlights and issues... | 08:06 |
| ochosi | also "Please note the important install known issue *below* " doesn't make any sense anymore | 08:06 |
| elfy | done | 08:08 |
| ochosi | i removed that linebreak in the bugreport reference | 08:10 |
| ochosi | or was that intended? | 08:10 |
| elfy | no intended line breaks - I can only just see the screen at the moment :) | 08:10 |
| ochosi | ok, i think i'm ok with it as it is now | 08:11 |
| elfy | okey doke | 08:11 |
| ochosi | maybe we should give either bluesabre or knome a chance to take a look and sign off | 08:11 |
| elfy | ochosi: works for me | 08:11 |
| ochosi | cause i wasn't kidding when i said that i'm actually too tired for this sort of work | 08:11 |
| elfy | ochosi: I would have carried on | 08:12 |
| ochosi | okeydokey | 08:12 |
| ochosi | go ahead then | 08:12 |
| elfy | I'll play a bit more - then leave it for the other 2 - as long as we publish sometime today | 08:13 |
| elfy | maybe even add a 'don't install from it if you don't want to hard install, install b1 and dist-upgrade instead" | 08:14 |
| elfy | anyway -- have a good day ochosi :) | 08:14 |
| ochosi | yeah, sounds like sane advice | 08:18 |
| ochosi | alrighty, bbabl | 08:18 |
| bluesabre | good morning | 10:45 |
| bluesabre | flexiondotorg: Can you check out https://code.launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/lightdm-gtk-greeter/post-2.0.0/+merge/251694 and see if it resolves the white screen issue without the specific monitor configuration? | 10:58 |
| ochosi | morning bluesabre | 11:01 |
| ochosi | yeah, i agree that it's mostly bugfix, which is why i commented | 11:01 |
| ochosi | it's quite big and seems to be a single commit | 11:01 |
| ochosi | which makes it extremely hard to review | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | some fixes can be huge, but this is also 4 different fixes, so it'd be expected to take up some space | 11:02 |
| bluesabre | and this is C, where nothing is small and tidy | 11:03 |
| ochosi | i know | 11:03 |
| ochosi | just saying, throwing >1 bugfix in one commit is not ideal | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | ah, gotcha | 11:03 |
| ochosi | but as long as this fixes things, i'm fine | 11:04 |
| ochosi | wasn't sure why he named the branch like he did though | 11:04 |
| ochosi | (other than the commit being big) | 11:04 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | I'm going to review the branch tonight and give it some testing | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | those fixes are certainly welcome :) | 11:05 |
| elfy | bluesabre: did you look at x.org beta2 post? | 12:51 |
| knome | i didn't even if i promised | 12:52 |
| knome | is it published or does it need love now? | 12:52 |
| elfy | not published - and you might want to give it some love | 12:55 |
| knome | ok, i'll look at it | 12:56 |
| knome | is the release out? | 12:56 |
| knome | eg. can i push it out when it's ready | 12:56 |
| elfy | yea - about 12 hours ago | 12:56 |
| elfy | yea - publish when ready | 12:56 |
| knome | ok | 12:57 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre, Been in a meeting. Looking now. | 13:39 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre, That is a significant patch. Give me a bit... | 13:46 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre, Do you want me to test this or review the code? | 13:46 |
| slickymaster | krytarik, you haven't made any MP yet, have you? | 14:55 |
| slickymaster | regarding the translators credits? | 14:55 |
| krytarik | Nope, was waiting for your response on any of that first - though I *did* think about just blankedly doing some. :P | 14:57 |
| slickymaster | please go ahead | 14:57 |
| * krytarik looks back at the list | 14:57 | |
| * slickymaster checks krytarik url | 14:59 | |
| slickymaster | krytarik, we're still under http://www.cellrabta.pk/xubuntu/docs/unmerged-changes.html proposals, right? | 15:01 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 15:01 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Please let me know what else of those you think is desirable and managable right now. | 15:02 |
| slickymaster | that's a lot of items | 15:02 |
| krytarik | Yeah, I had a bit of time. :P | 15:02 |
| slickymaster | even though some would be doable in a single MP | 15:03 |
| slickymaster | my suggestion would just that krytarik | 15:03 |
| slickymaster | those who could be gathered into a single MP | 15:04 |
| slickymaster | would be the ones we could deal with, now | 15:04 |
| slickymaster | and leave the rest for the next cycle | 15:04 |
| slickymaster | what do you think? | 15:04 |
| krytarik | Well, *everyone* of those could :P - but some are dependent on other stuff. | 15:04 |
| krytarik | The ones having sub-bullets, specifically. | 15:05 |
| slickymaster | that last item seems to be the most sensible one, in terms of a possible negative impact | 15:07 |
| krytarik | That is, right now it's more like a complete package, with only the ones marked with an [i] being able to be independently applied - so I'd indeed prefer not having to pull all those apart, however for traceabilities' sake... | 15:10 |
| krytarik | *traceability's | 15:10 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Yeah, on that one, every language's translators would have to get those through the translation system once again - without doing any actual translation. | 15:13 |
| krytarik | However, I'd really like to fix that up too. | 15:14 |
| slickymaster | yeah, but we're 23 days away from release, so I'd prefer to play on the safe side and leave that one to thew W cycle | 15:15 |
| slickymaster | s/thew/the | 15:16 |
| krytarik | Well, if it's not 'translated', it'll just look the same. :P | 15:16 |
| krytarik | However, that affects the translation percentage, of course. | 15:17 |
| slickymaster | hm hm | 15:17 |
| krytarik | Also, DSF and all... | 15:17 |
| krytarik | And then there is the x-d-s stumbling block, of course. | 15:18 |
| krytarik | (Regarding the other one.) | 15:19 |
| slickymaster | so the way I see it, we have two possibilities, either we go with a MP, just with the [i] items | 15:20 |
| slickymaster | or we go with a MP with everything with the exception of the last item | 15:20 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: The x-d-s change would still have to be decided on then though. | 15:23 |
| krytarik | For me to go in one direction or another reg. it, that is. | 15:25 |
| slickymaster | yeah, indeed, and that does implies bluesabre and/or ochosi and/or Unit193 2 cents | 15:25 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 15:25 |
| ochosi | what cents? | 15:27 |
| slickymaster | hey ochosi | 15:27 |
| krytarik | Euro, of course. :P | 15:27 |
| ochosi | hey, whazzup? :) | 15:28 |
| slickymaster | see what krytarik and I have been discussing | 15:28 |
| slickymaster | ^^^ | 15:28 |
| slickymaster | krytarik, I would say that a MP with the first three [i] items would be the best approach now, since we're so late in the cycle | 15:29 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Like I indicated, I can always roll back some of the changes on the individual parts, if separate MPs are needed, or some of the changes aren't wanted/applyable yet. | 15:31 |
| slickymaster | but there's no need/point on doing things and then rolling back, if it can be avoided | 15:32 |
| krytarik | Well, I have the current state reflected by all the involved files, but that doesn't mean I can't pull out any individual changes if needed - always had that in mind. | 15:34 |
| krytarik | That is, I'd rather do *that* instead of dropping most of the currently applyable changes for now. | 15:35 |
| slickymaster | that makes sense | 15:35 |
| krytarik | That is to say, just the [i] ones don't quite cut it for me. | 15:35 |
| krytarik | Or the first ones of those, rather. | 15:36 |
| slickymaster | I get that | 15:37 |
| ochosi | slickymaster: i read a bit of the backlog, but i'm not sure where you want/need my cents..? | 15:37 |
| slickymaster | regarding the x-d-s change | 15:37 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: And particularly the very first item, appearance of cross references, I'd like to at least have approved by knome too. | 15:38 |
| slickymaster | yes, I'm sure that we'll jump in as soon as he'll see the backlog | 15:39 |
| krytarik | ochosi: And maybe the breaking of strings not actually to translate too. | 15:40 |
| krytarik | ochosi: The options there are: a) Change x-d-s; b) Add a symlink in the docs package; c) Only add a 'website' target and leave the rest as is. | 15:46 |
| krytarik | Obviously, I'd prefer to do it proper. :) | 15:46 |
| krytarik | * properly | 15:47 |
| ochosi | sorry, you still lost me there, what change in x-d-s exactly? what are you referring to? symlink in the docs package to what? | 15:48 |
| krytarik | The file path in the Help .desktop file would have to changed. | 15:48 |
| ochosi | right why's that? | 15:49 |
| krytarik | It's currently pointing to the 'about' subdirectory, and would then need to point at the root directory. | 15:49 |
| ochosi | ah | 15:49 |
| slickymaster | exactly | 15:50 |
| ochosi | so instead of exo-open --launch WebBrowser /usr/share/xubuntu-docs/about/xubuntu-index.html | 15:50 |
| ochosi | exo-open --launch WebBrowser /usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html ? | 15:50 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 15:50 |
| ochosi | sounds like an easy change, so what's the question again? :) | 15:51 |
| krytarik | lol | 15:51 |
| ochosi | you want me to just change that or would you expect any drawbacks..? | 15:51 |
| krytarik | Only if someone is eager to do that. :P | 15:51 |
| slickymaster | any changes in x-d-s has to go by you | 15:51 |
| slickymaster | or bluesabre an/ord Unit193 | 15:52 |
| ochosi | this seems like a very sensible and easy change | 15:52 |
| slickymaster | yes | 15:52 |
| ochosi | so yeah, not sure what a symlink would help | 15:52 |
| krytarik | ochosi: Well, I'm happy if it's not needed, of course. :P | 15:54 |
| krytarik | However, I actually tested that - not the coolest thing on Earth, of course. :D | 15:54 |
| sorinello | Hello, can someone point me on how to clone the git repo/submodule containing thunar ? | 15:55 |
| ochosi | sorinello: git clone git://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar | 15:55 |
| sorinello | I see that thunar appears in more $TYPE's | 15:55 |
| ochosi | krytarik, slickymaster: for simple changes like these the most efficient way is to just tell one of us "hey, change this and that in x-d-s" or even submitting a MR for that would be fine | 15:56 |
| sorinello | thanks ochosi | 15:56 |
| ochosi | sorinello: yw | 15:56 |
| sorinello | ochosi, any particular reason why xfce source are not on github ? | 15:57 |
| sorinello | how come xfce hasn't migrated to github | 15:57 |
| ochosi | sorinello: there's a github mirror, but it's not used for development | 15:57 |
| ochosi | there seemed no need to migrate | 15:57 |
| krytarik | ochosi: Yeah, we haven't really had a chance to chat about all that till now - so I left that as an option. | 15:57 |
| ochosi | we're happy with our servers | 15:57 |
| sorinello | okay, thanks for the info, I just want to poke a little bit in the sources of thunar | 15:58 |
| slickymaster | ok ochosi, consider yourself as 'told' about it, then ;) | 15:59 |
| ochosi | hehe | 15:59 |
| ochosi | slickymaster, krytarik: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/revision/562 | 15:59 |
| ochosi | sorinello: hf! :) | 15:59 |
| slickymaster | great ochosi | 15:59 |
| slickymaster | thnaks | 15:59 |
| slickymaster | thanks even | 15:59 |
| krytarik | LOL - that was quick. | 15:59 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Snacks! :P | 16:00 |
| slickymaster | ok, krytarik, let's wait for the Finnish input on all this, and then propose a MP and I'll be happy to review it and merge it | 16:01 |
| ochosi | np, quick is how i roll ;) | 16:01 |
| slickymaster | lol | 16:01 |
| ochosi | however, we still need another upload before the final release | 16:02 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Excluding the general credits still, yes? | 16:02 |
| ochosi | so that would be something to keep on the radar | 16:02 |
| slickymaster | yes krytarik | 16:02 |
| ochosi | (we might need more changes in x-d-s though) | 16:02 |
| slickymaster | indeed ochosi | 16:02 |
| slickymaster | speaking about snack krytarik, little one is already nagging about it | 16:03 |
| krytarik | lol | 16:03 |
| krytarik | Well, I just had breakfast. :P | 16:03 |
| slickymaster | we had lunch just 2 hours ago and he's already hungry :P | 16:03 |
| krytarik | That's what it needs to get from little to big. ;P | 16:04 |
| slickymaster | :) | 16:08 |
| slickymaster | 4 | 16:08 |
| slickymaster | lol irssi is lagging again horribly | 16:08 |
| krytarik | It's not Irssi, it's your internet connection. :P | 16:09 |
| slickymaster | no it's not | 16:09 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: This is what I mean by "Correct some data in the general contributor credits" exactly, btw: http://paste.openstack.org/show/QdZJSz82u43SNIRGZlJz/ | 16:24 |
| slickymaster | yeah, alphabetical order krytarik | 16:43 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Nah, I was about to say disregard that, that's secondary - the more important one is the incorrect LP user names. | 18:11 |
| slickymaster | you're. tbh I didn't noticed the correction of the LP names:P | 18:19 |
| slickymaster | my bad | 18:19 |
| krytarik | Yeah, I can see how that can be overlooked there - lazy me. :P | 18:20 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Would you have time to upload xfce4-session 4.12.1 for me? | 19:46 |
| Noskcaj | it and xfdesktop4 4.12.1 are in ppa:noskcaj/staging | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | knome: lmk when you're about? want to chat polos (I sadly haven't kept up with any potential discussions you may have already had with ochosi, only pings from ochosi post washing :)) | 20:06 |
| elfy | evening pleia2 | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | o/ elfy | 20:08 |
| brainvvash_ | Noskcaj, are you preparing xfdesktop 4.12.1 for vivid? if yes, there are two regressions. not documented on bugzilla yet, but fixed in master. | 20:15 |
| Noskcaj | brainvvash_, oh. Is a bugfix release coming soon or should i add patches to my package? | 20:16 |
| brainvvash_ | a bug fix release is planned, but only eric_the_idiot knows when it will be released :) | 20:16 |
| Noskcaj | ok. I might save xfdesktop4 for a MRE so we can test it a bit better. There's a lot of changes anyway | 20:18 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: there's 3 weeks until final freeze, standard SRU test period is 7 days... | 20:41 |
| micahg | if it's not uploadable now, it probably shouldn't be an SRU either... | 20:42 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, I didn't look at the release schedule, i just knew it was "soonish" | 20:44 |
| Noskcaj | We should have enough time then | 20:44 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: and anything you need sponsored, if you throw it in the queue, I can take a look over the weekend | 20:45 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, session's the only xfce thing i need sponsored ATM, if bluesabre doesn't just copy it from my PPA, i'll make a bug tomorrow | 20:46 |
| gnumbknuts | Hi ye. Has Xchat been dropped from vivid-β2 ? I had to install it manually on live-usb. | 20:51 |
| elfy | yes it has | 20:52 |
| gnumbknuts | Will it return for the final release? or will there be no IRC client installed by default ? Thanks elfy. | 20:53 |
| elfy | http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-10-beta-1/ | 20:53 |
| elfy | was removed in the last release | 20:53 |
| elfy | no - there are no plans to bring it back | 20:53 |
| elfy | not well supported anymore, I actually use hexchat here | 20:54 |
| gnumbknuts | Ok elfy, I will check out Hexchat ;’ | 20:54 |
| elfy | I would :) | 20:55 |
| elfy | not sure why we say install xchat tbh, the removal came about after a discussion in team and on devel mailing list about replacing xchat with hexchat | 20:55 |
| * micahg uses xchat :) | 20:56 | |
| elfy | I used to for ~5 years | 20:57 |
| elfy | moved to hexchat last cycle because we were talking about changing | 20:58 |
| elfy | 2 really annoying issues for me with it, though I plod on using it ;) | 20:58 |
| elfy | I only stop using something when issues are really really annoying ... | 20:58 |
| gnumbknuts | I didn't realise that Pidgin could do IRC. I just had a look at some pictures of Hexchat, it looks almost the same as Xchat. | 21:06 |
| Noskcaj | gnumbknuts, hexchat is based on xchat, but it is actually being maintained | 21:07 |
| pleia2 | it doesn't do it very well, but it's already included and we figure anyone who is going to be using IRC for more than a channel or two will have their own preference anyway so they'll just install their own client | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | pidgin's irc is pretty dreadful for regular users, but it's enough for people needed support most of the time | 21:07 |
| elfy | gnumbknuts: hezxchat is a fork afaik | 21:09 |
| elfy | just has some suppport | 21:09 |
| elfy | works ok here except - alt+a to /away and ctrl+f resizes the whole window | 21:10 |
| elfy | those being my 2 issues with it ;) | 21:10 |
| elfy | does sasl though apparently | 21:10 |
| gnumbknuts | I was thinking because IRC is such an old format, that if a client worked properly. then it wouldn't need maintaining. | 21:11 |
| gnumbknuts | Yes well... I,m new to IRC so I'm a bit scared of using some of those commands in fear of breaking something. LOL! | 21:14 |
| drc | gnumbknuts: There | 21:14 |
| elfy | there is that - but if something does happen - is there anyone about ... | 21:14 |
| drc | s a difference between "maintained" and "actively developed". | 21:14 |
| drc | See: ssl bugs :) | 21:15 |
| drc | and with that, dinnertime | 21:15 |
| knome | pleia2, here i am | 21:17 |
| elfy | hi knome | 21:18 |
| knome | hello elfy | 21:18 |
| elfy | though I'm not likely to be mistaken for pleia2 ;) | 21:18 |
| knome | and no, still didn't do anything about the announcement - friend popped here sooner than he told he was going to | 21:18 |
| gnumbknuts | I guess it doesn't really matter whether or not an IRC client is installed by default. That's the beauty of ?ubuntu based distros, it is very easy to install :) | 21:18 |
| elfy | knome: yep - assumed something | 21:19 |
| elfy | gnumbknuts: that for sure | 21:19 |
| Unit193 | Hint, don't use pidgin and IRC. | 21:27 |
| gnumbknuts | While I'm here... In trying out Vivid-β2, I noticed that the menu icon on the panel is the xfce-menu icon. Should it not be the Whisker-menu icon ? | 21:29 |
| elfy | mmm | 21:29 |
| elfy | should be the Xubuntu icon | 21:29 |
| elfy | looks like the Xubuntu one http://i.imgur.com/n7C5mOu.png | 21:31 |
| gnumbknuts | elfy: Yes that is the one, I think I may have gotten the names mixed up. So then it, seems that all is well. | 21:34 |
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