[02:29] <cq-aux> hi, my rootkithunter is showing "alot" of warnings (no 'known' rootkits - just warnings galore)
[02:29] <cq-aux> >could you tell me why?
[02:30] <holstein> what warnings? about what? what rootkit hunter? have you asked the creators of the software?
[02:30] <cq-aux> rkhunter
[02:30] <cq-aux> the warnings I guess are that programs have been changed
[02:31] <holstein> id say, if you have a "good" root kit, you wont be able to "hunt" it after the fact..
[02:31] <holstein> programs, likely *have* been changed... if you have updated them..
[02:31] <cq-aux> it's stuff like du and ls and grep
[02:31] <holstein> not sure what "it" is comparing the changes to
[02:31] <cq-aux> ahh good point
[02:32] <cq-aux> "I always feel like, somebody's watching me"
[02:32] <holstein> they are.. but, the question is, did they root kit you ;)
[02:33] <cq-aux> yeah it's funny, we get NO malware.. but someone can still bypass your firewall and just "look around" and copy whatever they like or watch?
[02:35] <cq-aux> I like to think I'm a trend-setter for some young muslim hacker wanting to know the best cult movies and electronica to check out next lol
[02:35] <cq-aux> did I say muslim? I meant chinese
[02:35] <cq-aux> lol
[02:36] <knome> ummm... i think we've crossed the border of offtopicness here, general chatter at #xubuntu-offtopic please
[02:36] <cq-aux> k bi
[02:40] <knome> OrioaZzZ, please don't use awaynicks
[09:34] <xubuntu43w> just install xubuntu 14.04.2 need to know how to install my lenovo G400 wireless connection or wifi?
[09:34] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu43w: what wifi chip?
[09:36] <xubuntu43w> intel
[09:37] <pmjdebruijn> which one particularly?
[09:37] <pmjdebruijn> lspci might tell you
[09:37] <xubuntu43w> ok i'll try
[09:37] <pmjdebruijn> typically intels should work just straight out of the box
[09:38] <pmjdebruijn> presumably you aren't seeing any SSIDs in network manager?
[09:40] <xubuntu43w> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> that's not the wifi thing
[09:40] <pmjdebruijn> usually it's explicitly listed as "network controller"
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> something like
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> or whatever
[09:41] <pmjdebruijn> should be fairly obvious
[09:42] <xubuntu43w> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[09:42] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu43w: ?
[09:42] <pmjdebruijn> ah
[09:42] <pmjdebruijn> so it's broadcom, not intel
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> and reboot
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> no
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> and reboot
[09:43] <pmjdebruijn> not legacy
[09:43] <xubuntu43w> ah ok
[09:44] <pmjdebruijn> broadcom doesn't allow ubuntu to include the firmware by default IIRC
[09:46] <xubuntu43w> ok thanks after this i'll reboot
[12:22] <xubuntu536> hello can i install skype?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> xubuntu536, software center.  choose and install
[12:40] <craigbass76> I've got no sound after one of the updates I did this week.  Not sure which one, because I haven't tried listening to audio for a while on this box.  But, I can hear a hiss and hear it shut off when I mute stuff.  I've installed (because pusle has been a pain sometimes in the past) and turned everything up, but that didn't fix it this time.
[12:41] <baizon> craigbass76: did you set up the proper output?
[12:42] <craigbass76> baizon, not sure.  I hadn't changed anything.  Actually when I checked alsamixer, everything looked like it did the last time it worked.
[12:42] <baizon> craigbass76: sometimes my default audio output sets itselft to HDMI instead of my headset.
[12:42] <craigbass76> baizon, nope, I lied.  In the regular volume control, it got switched to hdmi.  Thankee Sai!
[12:43] <baizon> craigbass76: np
[12:44] <pmjdebruijn> craigbass76: did you by any chance connect anything to hdmi lately?
[12:44] <pmjdebruijn> because it may not have been the updates that changed the behavior in the first place
[12:45] <craigbass76> pmjdebruijn, nope.  The only other thing I can think is if my wife logged in and messed with it.
[12:46] <craigbass76> I swapped everything off of PC speakers and hooked it in the stereo a few weeks ago; she still might not be used to it.
[15:10] <Jinxed-> Is there a way I could check if Xubuntu would support touchscreen on my laptop before installing it?
[15:10] <pmjdebruijn> just boot the live cd?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Jinxed-, live cd for starters
[15:18] <bazhang> with 512mb ram?
[15:35] <pmjdebruijn> bazhang: you're not making such sense?
[15:36] <bazhang> pmjdebruijn, jinxed has only 512mb on that machine
[15:37] <cfhowlett> bazhang, hard to imagine a touchscreen capable computer having only 512mb, but I guess it happens
[15:37] <bazhang> cfhowlett, true
[15:38] <bazhang> this was a carry over from ##linux, someone suggested xubuntu
[15:38] <pmjdebruijn> cfhowlett: that was my point indeed
[15:38] <bazhang> I thought lubuntu would be more fitting
[15:38] <cfhowlett> bazhang, agreed
[15:38] <pmjdebruijn> well, with 512mb you can't really run a very nice desktop at all
[15:38] <bazhang> touch screen with that low ram and a centrino duo
[15:39] <pmjdebruijn> oh and he's gone
[15:39] <bazhang> never heard of such a combo, but best to give the benefit of the doubt
[15:39] <bazhang> long gone
[15:39]  * pmjdebruijn wonders why he would care about the touchscreen in the first place
[15:39] <pmjdebruijn> on such hardware
[15:53] <john_hash> hi
[16:44] <xubuntu48w> I'm having a problem installing libfaac-dev, libmp3lame-dev, and libvorbis-dev.  I'm getting "Depends: .... (= 1.3.2-1.3ubuntu1) but 1.3.4-1~trusty1 is to be installed"  I've disabled all 3rd party PPAs and I couldn't really find anything specific on Google search on how I can fix this.  Can anyone help?
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu48w: did you run sudo apt-get update after disabling them
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu48w: also already installed packages from PPAs could be causing the trouble
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> and why would a ppa update libvorbis to begin with?
[16:53] <xubuntu48w> Yes, ran apt-get update
[16:53] <xubuntu48w> I don't have PPA for libvobis..PPA for other software
[17:01] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu48w: then it's still odd it updates libvorbis
[17:01] <pmjdebruijn> but if you have a new libvorbis you also need new libvorbis-dev
[17:01] <pmjdebruijn> so you probably need to keep the ppa that had the updated libvorbis enabled
[17:06] <xubuntu48w> Hmmm...I originally had all my PPAs enabled when I first ran into it..so that's what prompted me to disable all of them...apt-cache policy didn't show any other possible sources other than the official ubuntu repositories.  So, I was baffled.  I will try a fresh install on a VM and see if works any better
[17:09] <pmjdebruijn> 1.3.4-1~trusty1 is from a ppa
[17:09] <pmjdebruijn> if you have libvorbis 1.3.4-1~trusty1 installed
[17:09] <pmjdebruijn> and you try to install libvorbis-dev it will want libvorbis-dev 1.3.4-1~trusty1 to match the regular libvorbis
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> this shouldn't be too hard to figure out
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> to be honest I've rare had PPAs clash like that
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> presumably one of the PPA you were using isn't of good quality?
[17:11] <xubuntu48w> maybe...I'll dig a bit more...thank for the hints.
[17:13] <pmjdebruijn> basically if a ppa has many on it, it's likely to break something sooner or later
[17:13] <pmjdebruijn> many packages I mean
[17:14] <xubuntu48w> that's true...I'm suspecting it's the noobslab PPA....
[17:14] <pmjdebruijn> which particularly?
[17:17] <xubuntu48w> I have the http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/apps/ubuntu trusty installed
[17:18] <pmjdebruijn> oh that's atrocious
[17:19] <pmjdebruijn> no libvorbis though
[17:19] <holstein> yeah, i like it when a PPA only has a few packages..
[17:19] <holstein> when they have a lot of packages, a dependency can break something.. and maybe the PPA is not maintained any longer..
[17:20] <pmjdebruijn> basically if a PPA has that many packages you know that the guy doing the PPA either has no clue what he's doing, OR it's purely intended as a private use PPA
[17:21] <genii> There should be some option to install PPA binary things into somewhere like /usr/local or something
[17:21] <holstein> and, either way, its an "at your own risk" kind of deal.. the ppa situation is not perfect, for sure, but it is an easy way to distribute packages, and obtain packages as well
[17:22] <pmjdebruijn> genii: no there shouldn't
[17:22] <pmjdebruijn> that misses the whole point
[17:22] <pmjdebruijn> just because someone misuses a tool, doesn't mean there's something wrong with the tool
[17:23] <genii> Hm
[17:38] <xubuntu48w> I did an apt-cache policy for libvorbisenc2 and I see: libvorbisenc2:   Installed: 1.3.4-1~trusty1   Candidate: 1.3.4-1~trusty1   Version table:  *** 1.3.4-1~trusty1 0         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1.3.2-1.3ubuntu1 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[17:39] <xubuntu48w> I don't get why it things 1.3.4-1-trusty1 should be pulled from /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:39] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[17:39] <pmjdebruijn> if you disabled the ppas, dpkg can nolonger tell where it came from
[17:40] <holstein> i would try purging the ppa
[17:40] <holstein> be sure you dont have *any* of the packages.. disabling the source should just disable the source, and leave the packages from the source in place
[17:40] <holstein> !ppapurge
[17:41] <pmjdebruijn> oh, that's nice :)
[17:41]  * pmjdebruijn didn't know about ppa-purge
[17:41] <holstein> well, i have had it *not* work
[17:41] <pmjdebruijn> I never screwed myself over bad enough to need that :)
[17:41] <pmjdebruijn> :D
[17:42] <holstein> but, its my first step, since, using PPA's can be challenging, if they break, and the maintainers dont maintain it any longer
[17:42] <pmjdebruijn> the real challenge in selecting the proper PPAs in the first place
[17:42] <xubuntu48w> hmmm...this is looking like a job for re-format and re-install fresh.. I've got so much stuff from here and there, I can't even remember what came from what.  Well, thanks again for the hints, all.  Very much appreciate it.
[17:43] <pmjdebruijn> if you often find ppas breaking, you're just too eargerly adding stuff you shouldn't have added in the first place :)
[17:43] <bazhang> more than one PPA is really pushing it
[17:43] <pmjdebruijn> no
[17:43] <pmjdebruijn> that's nonsense
[17:43] <pmjdebruijn> if you only use decent PPAs
[17:43] <bazhang> not nonsense at all
[17:44] <pmjdebruijn> the problem is people adding the first crap ppa they find
[17:44] <holstein> doesnt matter, as long as one understands where the burden of support is
[17:44] <bazhang> if its something peripheral, like handbrake, thats one thing
[17:44] <xubuntu48w> anyone know a better sources for handbrake and formatjunkie?
[17:44] <bazhang> better than jstebbins?
[17:44] <pmjdebruijn> https://launchpad.net/~format-junkie-team/+archive/ubuntu/release
[17:44] <pmjdebruijn> they have an official ppa it seems
[17:45] <bazhang> the handbrake devs themselves recommend jstebbins ppa for handbrake
[17:45] <holstein> even an "official" ppa is still a ppa, though.. its not officially supported, and can cause issues
[17:45] <xubuntu48w> perfect...I need to stay away from that noobslab..
[17:46] <pmjdebruijn> holstein: the format junie ppa, only has format junkie, so that is unlikely to ever clash with anything else
[17:46] <bazhang> you might consider smplayer with mpv instead xubuntu48w
[17:46] <holstein> unlikely.. but, when/if it does, knowing who is responsible is important for troubleshooting
[17:46] <pmjdebruijn> sure
[17:47] <pmjdebruijn> the noobslab thing was basically an abomb waiting to say boom :)
[17:47] <pmjdebruijn> but I guess the name says it all
[17:47] <pmjdebruijn> a Lab with Noobs :)
[17:48] <pmjdebruijn> :D
[17:48] <xubuntu48w> LOL! Yeah
[17:49] <pmjdebruijn> like I said
[17:49] <pmjdebruijn> it's all about getting the right one
[17:52] <xubuntu48w> signing off...thanks again, all!
[17:52] <holstein> or, not using one
[17:52] <holstein> or, understanding the risks of using one..
[17:53] <bazhang> the tools available in the normal repos obviate the need for any ppa
[17:57] <pmjdebruijn> that's nonsense too
[17:57] <pmjdebruijn> particularly for LTS the versions can grow old quite quickly
[17:57] <pmjdebruijn> for some already mature apps that doesn't matter
[17:58] <pmjdebruijn> for some less mature apps, getting a newer versions matter hugely
[17:59] <pmjdebruijn> and/or anything that has to do with hardware support
[20:00] <xub> hi, i have a problem with ethernet. everytime i shutdown open my laptop again is off
[20:01] <xub> so i have to open it manually at terminal
[20:01] <holstein> xub: have you checked for and applied all updates?
[20:02] <xub> yes
[20:02] <xub> also the panel of network is lost
[20:03] <holstein> sounds related
[20:46] <gnumbknuts> Using Thunar, is it possible to copy the file "name" with the directory path ?