[00:08] <travnewmatic> hey!  i had to leave work but i'm dying to know how our good friend Cameron is faring
[00:10] <travnewmatic> :(
[00:57] <pedahzur> Does there any more exist a kubuntu-XX.XX-alternate ISO that does a text-mode install, and lets you do things like configure disk encryption, and the like? Or do I just need to do a server ISO install, and then install the kubuntu-desktop meta-package?
[00:58] <pedahzur> I see there is no ubuntu-XX.XX-alternate any more either.
[00:59] <cjwelborn> Is there an easy way to search an Http Index from the command line? like the 'find' command, except I'm looking for certain files in video.fosdem.org's http index?
[01:00] <cjwelborn> I suppose I could make something myself in python, I was just wondering if another command already had me covered..
[05:48] <uid1> Hi, 'fraid I'm gonna start with dumb question: what package is Flash plugin found in?  On Kubuntu 14.04 here.
[08:27] <MoonUnit`> baloo_file 100% again, noticed when i restarted it it was getting stuck on the konversation logs, added the folder to the 'do not search'  and it started working normally.
[08:27] <MoonUnit`> for now at least.
[09:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:23] <drawkward> Good morning lordievader
[09:23] <lordievader> Hey drawkward
[09:27] <drawkward> lordievader: I am slowly finding my way through. I hope to become a permanent contributor to KDE from now. If my proposal is accepted in GSoC it would be a great start. :)
[09:43] <lordievader> drawkward: Whoo, nice :D
[09:44] <drawkward> :D
[10:16] <fannymartinez> using the kup backup system, how does one go about restoring files?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:06] <ColtonDRG> Hi BluesKaj
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Hi ColtonDRG
[11:07] <ColtonDRG> BluesKaj: What's up?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> not much , just having morning coffee, you?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ColtonDRG,^
[11:11] <ColtonDRG> Not much here either
[11:11] <ColtonDRG> Just chillin', working on some IRC stuff.
[11:11] <ColtonDRG> BluesKaj: ''
[11:12] <LukePerry> Hi
[11:12] <ColtonDRG> BluesKaj: Tagging helps because Quassel sends a desktop notification
[11:12] <ColtonDRG> Hello LukePerry
[11:12] <LukePerry> Hey
[11:12] <LukePerry> I have tried Kubuntu
[11:12] <ColtonDRG> Just tried it?
[11:12] <LukePerry> I am surprise of the integration of Ubuntu with KDE
[11:12] <LukePerry> it is very good
[11:12] <ColtonDRG> I'll be honest, it's ugly by default.
[11:13] <ColtonDRG> But with some tweaking, you can make it really slick.
[11:13] <LukePerry> well it requires a bit of artwork
[11:14] <LukePerry> last time i tried, a couple of years ago, it has too many bugs
[11:14] <ColtonDRG> I dunno, the default colors and Plasma theme is pretty horrid
[11:14] <ColtonDRG> Ubuntu is always buggy.
[11:14] <LukePerry> it was not possible to compare Kubuntu with other more mature KDE based distros such as OpenSUSE or Mageia
[11:15] <ColtonDRG> LukePerry: I'm using Kubuntu for various reasons.
[11:15] <LukePerry> I am using Kubuntu because I prefer KDE over Gnome, Unity...
[11:16] <ColtonDRG> LukePerry: But I am using the OpenSUSE Plasma Theme and the Obsidian Coast color theme.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> beauty is in the eye of the behplder...seen some pretty "ugly" setups that the user considered cool looking :)
[11:17] <ColtonDRG> LukePerry: I use KDE because I don't like Unity, and Ubuntu-GNOME is a peice of crap.
[11:27] <LukePerry> Linus Torvalds uses KDE
[11:41] <BluesKaj> LukePerry, how do you know ...never seen him publish any prefernces
[11:57] <ColtonDRG> BluesKaj: He uses OpenSUSE. I know that. Logically, he probably uses KDE too
[11:59] <BluesKaj> opensuse is fine ...it's always been my 2nd choice as a linuix OS
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ColtonDRG, ^
[13:31] <MoonUnit`> hmm latest windows 10 preview won't run with kvm.
[14:00] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, I tried Windows 7 wirh qemu-kvm, and it was fast and stable , but the networking /LAN  pcs couldn'r be seen whether windows or linux pcs ...I couldn't find any fixes on the net for this problem and the ppl at the qemu chat totally ignored my questions so I dumped qemu-kvm
[14:04] <lordievader> Macvtap should die...
[14:04] <MoonUnit`> previous versions worked ok but build 10041 just hangs.
[16:26] <yossarianuk> hi with 15.04 how can I force screen DPI ?
[16:27] <yossarianuk> when I use the nvidia driver the window decorations are huge
[16:27] <yossarianuk> I aware I could do it with the Nvidia  driver / xorg.conf - is there another way ?
[16:27] <yossarianuk> i.e a KDE way.
[16:29] <MoonUnit`> haven't seen a setting for anything like that, you'll probably have to use the xorg way.
[16:29] <yossarianuk> MoonUnit`: ok cheers
[16:29] <yossarianuk> it looks fairly bad - the nouveau driver was ok
[16:30] <yossarianuk> I can take screenshots to show.
[17:20] <travnewmatic> quite close :D
[17:40] <MichaelP> what version of kde is 15.04 ship with plasma5 or kde4 ?
[17:41] <MoonUnit`> plasma5
[17:41] <MichaelP> is it full plasma 5 or still using kde4 base
[17:42] <MoonUnit`> full plasma5 as far as i know, some apps like dolphin are still kde4 though.
[17:43] <lordievader> MichaelP: Since the transition to Plasma5 is modular it means that bits and pieces are still using KF4, but the majority is using KF5.
[17:44] <MichaelP> if dolphin is kde4.. then it using kde4 base... guess KaOS is the only distro right now stable full plasma5 no kde4 in it
[17:45] <lordievader> Kubuntu is rather up to date with their packages as they get build from the KDE git.
[17:45] <lordievader> If there is a KF5 based dolphin, Kubuntu likely has it.
[17:46] <MichaelP> yeah cause manjaro has dolphin kf5 kasos
[17:48] <MichaelP> down load it and give it a shot
[17:49] <lordievader> Err, no.
[17:49] <lordievader> I'm happy with Gentoo.
[17:50] <MichaelP> I don't want to spend week building a distro
[17:52] <lordievader> I'm not saying you should run it ;)
[17:53] <MichaelP> i like arch
[17:53] <BluesKaj> what is full plasma 5 anyway? there doen't seem to be a definition
[17:53] <lordievader> I guess where everything is ported.
[17:53] <lordievader> Don't think it exists yet, but I might be wrong.
[17:54] <MichaelP> full plasma with no kde4 in it
[17:54] <MichaelP> KaOS is full plasma kf5
[17:54] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, arch was an anticlimax to me after all that cli work to install it ...was pretty ordinary IMO
[17:55] <lordievader> http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[17:55] <MichaelP> BluesKaj, i can cli install it in about 20 minutes depending on how good mirrors are running
[17:56] <lordievader> Lots of things still depend on KF4.
[17:57] <MichaelP> yeah but KaOS is only a 2000 package kde distro.. So he building everything kf5
[17:57] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, I have a pretty slow dsl ISP by most stds nowadays, since I live in the boonies, but it took me about an hr if I recall to install arch'
[17:59] <MichaelP> im on a 8 Mbps cable connection.. Just download 15.04 at 1.8
[18:05] <BluesKaj> 6Mbps here , the fastest dsl available , the cable co has faster speeds, but they're quite expensive for you get
[18:06]  * lordievader wonders if he should brag about his connection...
[18:06] <BluesKaj> for what you get , thast is
[18:07] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: where are you ?
[18:09] <yossarianuk> I can't use 'ubuntu-bug' in 15.04 - if I try  I get ' File "/usr/share/apport/apport-kde", line 43    from PyQt5 uic  ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[18:10] <yossarianuk> there is a dpi bug with nvidia h/w in 15.04 - makes the window manager look far fatter than it should.
[18:11] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Looks like you have two bugs to report ;)
[19:00] <yossarianuk> lordievader: yes you are correct... I'll have to do it the manual way.
[19:02] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, to answer your question. I'm in Canada, about 400KM North of Toronto
[19:37] <MoonUnit`> looks like plasma5 has a little way to go, http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[19:43] <lordievader> Jup
[19:52] <yossarianuk> MoonUnit`: yeah no weather widget yet (most important thing..)
[19:54] <yossarianuk> im really liking it though.
[19:55] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: feel sorry for your speed dude
[19:56] <BluesKaj> well I could have 20Mbps for 75bucks/mos , but I'm too cheap
[19:57] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,^
[19:57] <yossarianuk> not sure how that relates to UK pound, sounds expensive though.
[19:57] <yossarianuk> i won't mention mine....
[19:59] <yossarianuk> perhaps ask for donations through the kubuntu project, faster broadband = faster development for kubuntu. (I assume you are a dev..)
[20:00] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, nope, just a Kubuntu user/tester
[20:00] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: ah maybe the donation idea is out then.......
[20:01] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, around 50 pounds I think
[20:01] <yossarianuk> thats expensive for what you get....
[20:01] <yossarianuk> would get you 120+ Mbps
[20:01] <yossarianuk> in uk
[20:01] <yossarianuk> (although not in the sticks)
[20:01] <MoonUnit`> i get 80Mbps down for £30
[20:02] <yossarianuk> thats good
[20:02] <BluesKaj> well atm I'm paying 37bucks Canadian for 6Mbps , which is probly aroun d 20 pounds
[20:03] <yossarianuk> well, better than it was in the 90's..
[20:04] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, nice...but Canda has some of the highest internet charges in the western world due to the vast distances and the relatively small population
[20:04] <BluesKaj> err Canada :)
[20:05] <yossarianuk> always wanted to go to Canada, heard really good things about the place.
[20:05] <yossarianuk> (and have an Aunt there)
[20:08] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, we had 2 very cold winters in eastern Canada ..wasn't enjoyable at all, evben for those who love winter sports/activities, but it was unusually mild on the west coast
[20:08] <yossarianuk> good olde climate change....
[20:11] <yossarianuk> anyway - if im writing a bug-report (and ubuntu-bug is broken..)  do I just do as normal  - i.e go here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[20:11] <yossarianuk> sorry - if i'm reporting a 15.04 bug
[20:11] <BluesKaj> go for it, that's a good thing
[20:11] <lordievader> yossarianuk: If that is the appropriate package, yes.
[20:12] <yossarianuk> ok will do
[20:12] <yossarianuk> ubuntu-bug doesn't work.
[20:12] <yossarianuk> also a dpi bug .
[20:13] <yossarianuk> (with nvidia - its going to make a lot of people potentially think kde5 is uglier than it is)
[20:13] <yossarianuk> not sure which package the dpi issue comes under - I gues nvidia-current
[20:15] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, I have nvidia and intel gpus on different pcs , and the plasma 5 desktop looks practically the same on both
[20:15] <yossarianuk> well the title bar on the window decoration looks huge on nvidia by default - at least for me.
[20:16] <yossarianuk> I have to use nvidia driver+xorg to specify dpi to 96x96
[20:16] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, screenshot ?
[20:16] <yossarianuk> one sec
[20:18] <yossarianuk> https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/Z5MX  - with dpi set in xorg.conf
[20:18] <yossarianuk> https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/Z5Mb - normal
[20:18] <yossarianuk> note : the nouveau driver is fine.
[20:19] <yossarianuk> ie the normal one the window title is about 50% larger
[20:22] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, to me the window just looks larger in snapshot 2 , but the titlebar looks normal relative to the rest of the window
[20:23] <yossarianuk> the window was the same size (it was not in  the same position)
[20:24] <yossarianuk> look at them next to each other the 2nd one is bigger.
[20:24] <MoonUnit`> bah thought i got apport-kde working by adding 'import' on line 43 but it just crashes out later on.
[20:25] <yossarianuk> I guess its the font size that makes the difference
[20:26] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, right click on the titlebar choose more actions , then special applications settings , postion and size set to remember
[20:26] <BluesKaj> afte you moc=ve thw window where you want
[20:26] <BluesKaj> aerr move
[20:26] <yossarianuk> thats cool - wasn't aware of the menu
[20:27] <BluesKaj> and whatever size you want
[20:27] <yossarianuk> thats really good..
[20:27] <yossarianuk> however when i set dpi to 96 it looks fine
[20:28] <yossarianuk> default dpi after installing nvidia is 101x101
[20:28] <yossarianuk> the title bar just looks too big and clunky
[20:28] <MoonUnit`> that's the main reason why i use kde, i like apps to stay where i place them.
[20:28] <yossarianuk> at 96x96 it looks good
[20:29] <yossarianuk> the main reason I use kde it due to configuratuion abilities
[20:29] <MoonUnit`> the usual ui way of randomly placing windows annoys me.
[20:29] <yossarianuk> I cant work with desktops without a task bar...
[20:30] <MoonUnit`> wish dolphin acted the same way as caja, every window size and position is remembered.
[20:30] <yossarianuk> although if you want a desktop you can really spend all day tweaking check out enlightenment
[20:32] <BluesKaj> my desktop setup is quite simpleas you can see http://imagebin.ca/v/1wPpZqdB1aks
[20:33] <BluesKaj> 105 dpi on a 42" plasma tv/monitor
[20:34] <BluesKaj> nvidia-340 driver/8400gs gpu
[20:37] <yossarianuk> what dpi ?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> 105
[20:38] <yossarianuk> try changing to 96 ... it looks better...
[20:39] <BluesKaj> 1920x1080  thefonts don
[20:39] <BluesKaj> 'don't
[20:39] <yossarianuk> im on that res too..
[20:40] <yossarianuk> i don't just mean the font dpi - but xorg
[20:40] <yossarianuk> that also seems to make a difference
[20:40] <BluesKaj> I'm 11 ft away in my easy chair , so prefer the higher dpi
[20:42] <BluesKaj> no need for my glasses :)
[20:43] <dougl> o/
[20:43] <BluesKaj> hey dougl
[20:43] <dougl> how are you BluesKaj ?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> ok here dougl, and you ?
[20:44]  * dougl pipes down to see if there is a conversation happening already...
[20:44] <tnkhanh> I'm trying out 15.04
[20:44] <tnkhanh> I cannot shut down after installation :s
[20:45] <dougl> k
[20:45] <BluesKaj> tnkhanh, yes that's a common problem, make sure you update and upgrade
[20:46] <dougl> good BluesKaj  just did a clean install of 14.04 64 bit... strangest thing a wifi issue pushed the issue
[20:46] <tnkhanh> BluesKaj: yes, I did update and upgrade before trying to shut down
[20:47] <tnkhanh> now its kind off hang but I can move cursor around
[20:48] <BluesKaj> try ctrl alt delete to reboot then try shutting down again
[20:48] <BluesKaj> tnkhanh,^
[20:49] <b1ackcr0w> Good Evening all!
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+delete , that is
[20:50] <b1ackcr0w> Installed the 15.04 alpha earlier, very impressed
[20:50] <BluesKaj> Hi b1ackcr0w
[20:51] <b1ackcr0w> Question: I've installed some plasma widgets in Muon, but how do I now activate them?
[20:52] <tnkhanh> BluesKaj: hm everything just turns black after ctrl alt del, I can move to other tty but I guess it wont help
[20:53] <BluesKaj> b1ackcr0w, which widgets, some are available in add widgets
[20:53] <BluesKaj> tnkhanh, looks like a hard boot is required
[20:54] <tnkhanh> BluesKaj: I guess so. Thanks
[20:55] <BluesKaj> tnkhanh, it happened to me a couple of times too
[20:55] <b1ackcr0w> A bunch of them, there were only about half a dozen in add widgets when I looked earlier
[20:57] <b1ackcr0w> the google calendar one would be particularly handy
[21:00] <MoonUnit`> the google calendar widget is broken in vivid
[21:01] <b1ackcr0w> Ah, yeah, they won't even install from Muon now.
[21:01] <MoonUnit`> made a bug for it yesterday, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-googlecalendar/+bug/1437438
[21:01] <BluesKaj> yeah, there are some missing widgets for the panel, even if you install them with apt and some work only in the terminal
[21:02] <b1ackcr0w> No biggie, they are nice to haves. Must say that the basic stability, useability and polish is amazing for an alpha.
[21:03] <BluesKaj> ok , it's been a long day..gonna give these old eyes a rest ...later all
[21:03] <MoonUnit`> added the google calendar to korganizer but it isn't linked to the tray calendar either.
[21:48] <ahoneybun> email sent for translations!
[23:27]  * vinny has coffy
[23:33] <vinny> why can I not see any activity ?
[23:33] <vinny> only what I type
[23:33] <Unit193> Because nothing is happening right now?  Evening on a Saturday.
[23:34] <vinny> O .....I see a lot of nicks ,,,,,,,,,but no noise :)