[09:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:49] <elfy> morning
[09:51] <brobostigon> morning elfy
[11:14] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:14] <bigcalm> Anybody here managed to get landscape working? My clients just complain that they can't contact the server when trying to register
[11:16] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[11:27] <bigcalm> popey: come fix my landscape woes :) PyCurlError: Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/landscape/landscape_server_ca.crt CRLfile: none
[11:34] <bigcalm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10694385/
[12:00] <bigcalm> Fixed it by copying the correct SSL cert to the client machines
[13:01] <mappps> gah
[13:01] <mappps> pesky proxypass still not working right
[13:08] <masterclass> hi
[13:09] <masterclass_> yolo
[13:09] <mappps> hm
[13:35] <popey> bigcalm: yay
[13:36] <bigcalm> popey: the web interface takes a bit of getting used to
[13:37] <bigcalm> Now wondering if I should put my workstation and laptop onto landscape. Maybe not
[13:38] <popey> :)
[13:38] <popey> I added all my machines to it
[13:45] <bigcalm> How come landscape is only in a ppa and not in the main repos?
[13:46] <popey> the client is in the repo isn't it?
[13:46] <bigcalm> Yes, it is
[13:46] <bigcalm> But not the server
[13:47] <popey> dunno
[13:47] <popey> guess the usual reasons...
[13:47] <popey> release timelines don't line up
[13:47] <bigcalm> I guess Canonical want there to be more chance of a new customer than finding the free offering
[13:47] <bigcalm> It's fine by me
[13:47] <popey> well the free thing is fairly recent
[13:48] <bigcalm> Ah
[13:48] <popey> it's been around a long time
[13:48] <bigcalm> That's why I've not paid attention to it before
[13:49] <bigcalm> Hayley is home, time to spend some time with her :)
[15:23] <foobarry> landscape is free now?
[15:27] <popey> foobarry: http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[15:31] <foobarry> ok still need to buy the paid support thing for commerical and edu's
[16:08] <popey> \o/ Pebble Time.
[20:13] <shauno> I don't want to admit how long this has taken me, but I'm proud of myself :)  http://i.imgur.com/cxnn7Cw.png
[20:17] <daftykins> is this for the Pi?
[20:18] <daftykins> ah yeah, look at you and your hostnames ;)
[20:20] <shauno> yeah.  trying to replace volumio because the more I try to change, the more it scares me
[20:21] <shauno> so I'm trying to replace their persistent php workers with a flask thingie to expose mpd via json
[20:38] <shauno> (and yes, hostname all the things.  the answer to 'how am I meant to remember an ipv6 address')
[20:44] <daftykins> :)
[20:44] <penguin42> shauno: hex in words
[20:52] <shauno> I prefer my solution :)
[22:18] <daftykins> hmm, in lieu of milk i'm trying cadbury's chocolate powder in hot water
[22:18] <daftykins> ... yeah no.
[23:30] <crepple> daftykins You should have got coffee mate for emergencies :)
[23:30] <daftykins> what's that?
[23:31] <crepple> It's akind of powdered milk that actually tastes like cream and tastes just about ok in coffee
[23:31] <crepple> On sale in the UK
[23:31] <daftykins> ah-har
[23:31] <crepple> Not in the USA I guess
[23:32] <daftykins> i do vaguely remember my parents having a jar, but didn't know what it was
[23:33] <crepple> I think they must have it in the USA cos it's a Nestle product (I think)
[23:34] <crepple> I'm in the UK channel I just noticed - Facepalm - for some reason I thought you were over the pond
[23:35] <daftykins> :D
[23:35] <daftykins> ah i can double bluff, i'm down on the fine isle of Guernsey as it goes
[23:38] <crepple> If I had a Teleporter I'd send some over, as long as you didn't mind a rival Island milk (Jersey)
[23:39] <daftykins> haha, oh my
[23:39] <daftykins> the Guernsey Golds would never speak to me again!
[23:41] <crepple> ~It's funny - no Guernsey stereotypes come to mind. Wight is "full of Yacht club groupies" and Jersey is "full of Tax cheats" but Guernsey...
[23:42] <daftykins> just a bunch o' donkeys, us :>
[23:42] <daftykins> how about the Isle o' Man? a friends been sent there for work, place shuts up silent as of 9pm so i hear
[23:44] <crepple> daftykins yeah i heard that. like living in 1973 :)
[23:44] <daftykins> was that what the 70s were like? :D
[23:45] <crepple> yeah and i was there
[23:45] <crepple> well it was like that in Gloucestershire
[23:46] <crepple> I guess london was always 24/7
[23:46] <daftykins> from what i hear, the 70s had a lot of driving around seatbelt free under the influence over here
[23:47] <crepple> daftykins there’s a lot of truth in that
[23:48] <crepple> ludicrous as it sounds now, people doubted alcohol seriously impaired driving ability
[23:48] <crepple> Mind you, many more doubted smoking caused cancer
[23:49] <crepple> We knew the earth was round though :)
[23:50] <daftykins> hahaha
[23:50] <daftykins> but did the sun revolve around it? ;)
[23:50] <ali1234> did people really doubt that alcohol impaired driving?
[23:51] <daftykins> they were probably too busy out on the lash to worry
[23:51] <ali1234> i can understand doubting smoking and cancer because that takes a long time
[23:51] <crepple> ali1234 I don't know whether they did or whether it was just about still plausibly deniable
[23:51] <daftykins> and non-smokers still get lung cancer, too
[23:51] <crepple> Probably the latter was more common
[23:52] <ali1234> but the effects of alcohol happen pretty much immediately and have been well known for thousands of years...
[23:53] <crepple> ali1234 What I can say is, the police didn't take drink driving very seriously then, it was on a par with a parking offence, maybe a little more serious
[23:53] <ali1234> yeah, that i can believe
[23:56] <crepple> Then again, our parents thought it was fine to let us out at 9am on Saturday morning and not hear from us again till we wandered back around 5pm for tea. We could wander over the hills, climb trees, wade in streams. No one was expected to make a phone call to their parents. British culture has changed enormously over that time..
[23:56] <crepple> God I'm rambling
[23:56] <ali1234> i think that is still true for a large section of the population
[23:57] <ali1234> except the part about hills and trees because everyone lives in cities now
[23:57] <daftykins> do they even still go out in the great out doors or are they inside glued to smartphones they've been bought, sending hundreds of messages per hour? :)
[23:57] <daftykins> oops outdoors
[23:58] <ali1234> but you'd have to be a hundred years old to remember when anyone but retired people and farmers lived in villages
[23:58] <crepple> ali1234 Yeah. Funny thing is, I was thinking back. It was really good fun.