[02:52] <melray> Bummer no voyager channel for xubunt modified...anyone know of a different irc server/channel where they have a voyager channel?
[02:54] <Unit193> Last I knew it was ##voyager or #voyager.  I don't believe they have a strong IRC existance, try their forums?
[02:55] <Unit193> existence*
[02:55] <melray> Ok thanks...
[02:55] <melray> I did search the channels and didn't get a hit ;-)
[02:55] <melray> join ##voyager
[03:32] <Eight> Hey
[03:32] <Eight> I've got this crazy bug, or something.
[03:33] <holstein> !bug
[03:33] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[03:33] <Eight> Not an actual bug per se, prolly just something misconfigured
[03:33] <Eight> When I unplug my X61p, the brightness can't go as dim or as bright as when it's plugged in.
[03:34] <Eight> Any ideas where to start?
[03:34] <holstein> that can be hardware related.. i would check the bios, and then, i would probably test with live iso's, to see if other software, and kernel versions "act" the same..
[03:35] <Eight> Alright. I did recently replace the backlight, but it seems too weird to be hardware...
[03:36] <Eight> Especially since I can make it go nuclear bright on battery,
[03:36] <holstein> Eight: sure.. using a live iso will bypass your installed OS and "configuration"..
[03:37] <Eight> Kk. Will check to see.
[03:37] <holstein> i would want to know, did it behave that way before and/or after i changed the hardware
[03:37] <holstein> does it behave that way with the officially supported operating system and drivers..
[03:48] <xubuntu49w> would like some help figuring out if my computer specs will support xubuntu
[03:48] <holstein> xubuntu49w: sure.. i say, just load up the live iso and see how it runs
[03:50] <xubuntu49w> that is a great option, however, some of the drivers for my hardware were very difficult to install on linux mint. i'm hoping that the drivers will be easier to get and install on xubuntu. currently i have an amd athlon 64 3700+, nvidia geforce 8400gs, 2 gbs ram and a 200 gb hdd.
[03:51] <holstein> sure.. no need for hope, really.. just load it up and try it
[03:51] <holstein> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[03:51] <holstein> i like to try the open drivers first, that are included in the live iso...
[03:54] <xubuntu49w> i tried that and everything was a bit slow with mint.  switched to the propriatery drivers and it sped up with direct rendering issues. fixed that problem just to find that some of the games i want to play are not starting up.  was told that i need an ubuntu 13.04 at the least. not sure if linux mint 13 is derived from ubuntu 13.04
[03:54] <holstein> !13.04
[03:54] <ubottu> Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring
[03:54] <holstein> its end of life
[03:54] <holstein> you'll want 14.04, the LTS...
[03:54] <holstein> !lts
[03:55] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)
[03:55] <xubuntu49w> ok, will it still support older hardware despite being a newer version of ubuntu?
[03:55] <holstein> or, !14.10, the latest release
[03:56] <holstein> you'll be able to install 14.04, from the live iso i refence you should try, and you'll be able to test the graphics with with open driver, and then add a proprietary one if needed
[03:56] <holstein> xubuntu49w: try it and see if your hardware supports linux
[03:57] <xubuntu49w> ok.  thank you for the advice, will load up usb iso for testing.  best program for making bootable usb on linux?
[03:57] <holstein> "best" is always a matter of opinion
[03:57] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[03:57] <ubottu> unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 603-1 (utopic), package size 216 kB, installed size 839 kB
[03:57] <holstein> !install
[03:57] <ubottu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:57] <holstein> or whatever ^ suggests
[03:57] <Eight> Heyo
[03:57] <Eight> Does it in vista too.
[03:58] <Eight> Just some weird ardware behavior/intel driver
[03:58] <holstein> Eight: are you talking about the screen brightness?
[03:58] <Eight> Yerp.
[03:58] <holstein> sounds like it could be related to your hardware replacement, then, or bios related. i might look for a bios update
[03:59] <Eight> Just did that.
[03:59] <Eight> I thought that it'd might be that.
[04:00] <Eight> It's just weird since I can force it to go full brightness.
[04:00] <Eight> Anyway, thanks for your time.
[05:22] <xubuntu31w> hello, so i tried the live iso of xubuntu.  but now i cant install it.  i get the errno 5 message.  i had come across this message before when i was installing linux mint 13 and was able to bypass it and installby typing "obiquity no-migration-assistant".  i tried that with the live version of xubuntu 14.04 and now the live installer wont start at all. i'm not stuck running xubuntu off of a usb stick.
[05:22] <xubuntu31w> any help would be great
[05:25] <xubuntu31w> ive searched google high and low.  i have found many threads with the same issue, but no one seems to have solved it, or posted a possible solution that will work for me.
[06:06] <gnumbknuts> "error: gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R Image" . It would seem that this problem still persists in Xubuntu; ref to bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1325801 .
[06:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1325801 in Ubuntu CD Images "failed to boot from USB disk with error: gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R Image boot:" [Undecided,In progress]
[06:08] <gnumbknuts> I have force-installed the updated version of usb-creator-gtk to both Utopic and Vivid. Neither have fixed the issue.
[06:10] <gnumbknuts> Oh¡ forgot to mention, I am running Trusty 1404.2
[06:51] <xubuntu65w> hi i need heal
[06:52] <xubuntu65w> my bro intal xubunt on this lap but the wifi its good but i dont conecte whit the ethernet, de lap-top dont read the ethernet and i need help and my inglish its bad im mexican plzzzz
[09:17] <joeracjk> Please help, I cannot see my shared folders fro, windows
[10:21] <xubuntu180> hello i have a problem with my history ive erased it but still one site keeps comming back in the browser can anyone help please?
[10:32] <xubuntu180> hallo pensacola zou je me kunnen helpen?
[14:48] <matt_keys> Since yesterday my xubuntu/xfce desktop continually prompts the logout/restart/shutdown dialog. If I hit cancel it pops right back up. service lightdm restart worked yesterday but now it is not working to clear. If I reboot the machine it prompts to log out as soon as I log in.
[14:49] <matt_keys> I did the ctrl-alt-f1 thing to get here.
[14:50] <matt_keys> it is 14.04.2
[14:50] <matt_keys> amd64
[14:52] <matt_keys> I have already tried apt-get remove xscreensaver also.
[15:00] <matt_keys> Any suggestions on how to debug this?
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[16:12] <bekks> matt_keys: How much free space do you have?
[16:23] <matt_keys> 64gb
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[16:45] <hammerron> Hello. Trying to run live usb. it is aking for username and password?
[16:50] <bekks> hammerron: We dont know, is it?
[16:51] <baizon> no, it will not ask for a password
[16:54] <xubuntu25w> hi?
[16:55] <xtest> hi, i have installed pipelight but it doesn't work, any idea?
[16:56] <hammerron> ..trying to run a persistent live usb...never had a password question come up on a regular live usb
[16:56] <bekks> xtest: "Doesnt work" is so generic that no one can help you with that. What are you trying, what are you doing, what happens, what do you expect to happen instead, what are output messages?
[16:57] <xtest> bekks, i did this http://www.itworld.com/article/2697813/install-silverlight-alternative-pipelight-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[16:58] <xubuntu25w> my computer, don reed the ethernet i need help, im only use wifi but im need ethert and im mexican and my inglish it very bad plzzz help me!!!!
[16:58] <pmjdebruijn> what ethernet card does your computer have?
[16:58] <pmjdebruijn> 'lspci | grep -i ethernet' should tell you
[18:30] <m3n3chm0> hi all guys, After a few minutes Xubuntu freezes and I can't use the mouse or keyboard.. i'm using kernel 3.17.0-031700-generic.. this issue is being happening since the last week
[18:30] <m3n3chm0> any clue ¿?
[18:31] <holstein> m3n3chm0: so, it doesnt happen with an older/different kernel?
[18:31] <holstein> !tty
[18:31] <ubottu> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[18:31] <pmjdebruijn> did canonical start a new kernel numbering scheme?
[18:31] <m3n3chm0> i guess with the previous kernel all worked fine
[18:31] <holstein> i would go to tty, or try, and try and see what is locked.. kernel panic, or just the GUI..
[18:32] <holstein> m3n3chm0: i would test with the older kernel in your grub list. otherwise, it could be some hardware component broken causing your issues..
[18:33] <ObrienDave> pmjdebruijn, canonical does not dictate kernel version numbers
[18:33] <pmjdebruijn> it does
[18:33] <pmjdebruijn> "3.13.0-48-generic" is not a upstream version
[18:33] <pmjdebruijn> they suffix it
[18:33] <holstein> the kernels are repackaged.. the kernel team
[18:34] <holstein> its the same "source".. and version #'s..
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> '3.17.0-031700-generic' just seems to deviate from the previous suffixing scheme
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> holstein: well and a shitload of local patches IIRC
[18:34] <holstein> !langauge
[18:34] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> ah sorry
[18:34] <pmjdebruijn> my bad
[18:34] <holstein> you can ask the kernel team.. though, most "patches" afaik, are from upstream as well..
[18:35] <holstein> security patches, for example
[18:35] <pmjdebruijn> sure cherrypicks
[18:35] <Unit193> Yes, Ubuntu does carry Ubuntu patches.
[18:35] <m3n3chm0> sorry ¿?
[18:35] <m3n3chm0> this kernel contains bugs ¿? or what ?
[18:36] <pmjdebruijn> m3n3chm0: every kernel ever made in history contains bugs
[18:36] <pmjdebruijn> for any operating system
[18:36] <m3n3chm0> in addition i'm using propietary Nvidia driver .. maybe i'll test with open nouveau driver as well in order to check if the issue persists.. :)
[18:36] <holstein> m3n3chm0: is the older kernel working for you? if so, then, its likely *something* with the newer kernel, that *can* be related to your specific hardware, and not a "bug" causing your issue
[18:36] <pmjdebruijn> heh
[18:37] <m3n3chm0> ok
[18:37] <pmjdebruijn> excluding the nvidia blob driver is indeed probably a good idea too
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[18:40] <MadcapJake> Installing Xubuntu 14.10 and formatting and resizing some partitions.  The installer has been stuck on "Creating ext4 filesystem for /home in ..." for almost 2 hours.  Is it frozen? (I'm getting a slow feed of Glib.source_remove warnings in the console, like one every ten minutes)
[18:41]  * pmjdebruijn would guess so
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> I'd check dmesg on a terminal
[18:41] <julf_4> that
[18:41] <MadcapJake> can i access a terminal inside installer?
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[18:41] <pmjdebruijn> not sure which number
[18:42] <MadcapJake> ok
[18:42] <pmjdebruijn> just try them :)
[18:42] <pmjdebruijn> you'll find it :)
[18:42] <MadcapJake> yeah found one, what am i looking for in dmesg/
[18:42] <pmjdebruijn> no clue
[18:43] <MadcapJake> xD
[18:43] <pmjdebruijn> you don't see anything obvious? probably at the bottom of the log
[18:43] <pmjdebruijn> like disk errors or something?
[18:43] <pmjdebruijn> also
[18:43] <MadcapJake> gotta look a bit deeper, looks like wifi stuff at the tail
[18:43] <pmjdebruijn> does 'ps axuf | grep mkfs.ext4' show you anything?
[18:44] <MadcapJake> yeah
[18:44] <pmjdebruijn> soemthing like mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 ?
[18:45] <MadcapJake> yep
[18:45] <pmjdebruijn> so then it is still running
[18:45] <pmjdebruijn> m3n3chm0: how large is that partition?
[18:45] <pmjdebruijn> whoops sorry
[18:45] <MadcapJake> ~70 GB
[18:46] <pmjdebruijn> 70GB shouldn't take 2 hours
[18:46] <MadcapJake> yeah i did resize it though, just a little bit too xD
[18:46] <MadcapJake> and moved it actually xD
[18:47] <MadcapJake> so this is just my fault then i'm guessing lol
[18:47] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[18:47] <pmjdebruijn> moved it?
[18:48] <julf_4> steam wont start for me, i'd' be thankful for help
[18:48] <MadcapJake> well i had a swap and a home ext4 partition at the end of my drive, i deleted both, and set the swap to end of space and then set home part to rest of space beginning of space
[18:48] <MadcapJake> so i swapped the swap and the home part's space in the drive
[18:49] <pmjdebruijn> julf_4: did you try starting it from a terminal? did you get any output?
[18:49] <pmjdebruijn> julf_4: which version of xubuntu are you on?
[18:49] <julf_4> yeah i did, i can message it to you
[18:49] <julf_4> im on 14.04 lts
[18:49] <MadcapJake> not sure if that's why, but seems plausible, i read somewhere that resize op adds a fair amount of time
[18:49] <pmjdebruijn> julf_4: put it on pastebin
[18:50] <pmjdebruijn> steam works fine for me on 14.04 lts btw
[18:50] <pmjdebruijn> MadcapJake: not sure, I've never resized anything...
[18:51] <MadcapJake> pmjdebruijn: if i abort, do you think i'll destroy the hard drive?
[18:51] <julf_4> here's the error output i get in the terminal http://pastebin.com/bLY3mk0i
[18:52] <pmjdebruijn> MadcapJake: "destroy"?
[18:52] <MadcapJake> make it unbootable, damage other partitions on drive
[18:53] <pmjdebruijn> julf_4: try 'rm -Rf ~/.steam', do note, that will delete anything from an old steam install, so you might lose some steam related stuff
[18:53] <pmjdebruijn> MadcapJake: that disk is ALWAYS there if you mess around with partition, even if you don't abort
[18:55] <julf_4> pmjdebruijn, didn't' work, still the same error
[18:55] <pmjdebruijn> what does 'dpkg -l | grep steam' tell you
[18:56] <pmjdebruijn> particularly the version
[18:57] <pmjdebruijn> julf_4: ?
[18:58] <julf_4> pmjdebruijn, http://pastebin.com/k6iwg8t1
[18:59] <pmjdebruijn> where did steam-launcher come from?
[18:59] <pmjdebruijn> because that's not in the repositories?
[19:00] <julf_4> not sure..
[19:00] <pmjdebruijn> well it didn't get there on it's own
[19:01]  * pmjdebruijn wonders if that's from the partners repo
[19:01] <pmjdebruijn> anyhow
[19:01] <pmjdebruijn> no clue why it's not working for you
[19:01] <julf_4> pmjdebruijn, yeah i have the partners repo
[19:02] <Unit193> !info steam
[19:02] <ubottu> steam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 853 kB, installed size 2658 kB (Only available for i386)
[19:08] <julf_4> pmjdebruijn, can you think of anything i can try?
[19:10] <julf_4> think it might be related to the amd catalyst drivers somehow
[19:23] <julf_4> oh well, ty for the help
[19:36]  * MadcapJake still waiting on home partition! xO
[19:37] <ObrienDave> is it resizing and/or moving the partition?
[19:38] <MadcapJake> yeah
[19:38] <ObrienDave> if moving, it can take HOURS
[19:38] <MadcapJake> both
[19:38] <MadcapJake> lol
[19:38] <MadcapJake> its been three so far xD
[19:38] <ObrienDave> let it cook then. do not stop it
[19:39] <MadcapJake> ok will do! if the source ids relate to actual mbs of space, then it might be close!
[19:39] <ObrienDave> i think i moved 400-500GB once. took 6 or 7 hours
[19:40] <MadcapJake> haha amazing
[19:41]  * MadcapJake bunkers down for the long haul
[20:09] <xubuntu01w> Hi all
[20:10] <xubuntu01w> I've an IBM Thinkpad R32 and i've installed xubuntu 14.04
[20:10] <xubuntu01w> so networks does'nt work
[20:12] <xubuntu01w> hey.. there's someone who can help me!?
[20:14] <bekks> xubuntu28w: So state the actual issue, and someone might answer.
[20:18] <xubuntu43w> hey
[20:23] <xubuntu01w> hey
[20:23] <xubuntu01w> how i should state the item!?
[20:24] <knome> item?
[20:29] <xubuntu43w> can anyone help me out
[20:31] <ObrienDave> !ask | xubuntu43w
[20:31] <ubottu> xubuntu43w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:32]  * ObrienDave takes aim at Google translate. *** BOOOOOOOOOOM ***
[20:32] <knome> ObrienDave, huh?
[20:32] <ObrienDave> the "item"
[20:32] <xubuntu43w> Sorry
[20:33] <xubuntu43w> ccount rn and My 20 character password on my normal account got reset and I cant get in
[20:33] <xubuntu43w> *im on my guest account
[20:34] <ObrienDave> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[20:35] <xubuntu43w> ObrienDave thx
[20:35] <ObrienDave> welcome
[20:56] <gnumbknuts> Testing: ubottu, may I ask a question?
[20:58] <Unit193> gnumbknuts: We did already tell you it is a bot.
[20:58] <Unit193> !facts | gnumbknuts
[20:58] <knome> gnumbknuts, it's not a bot to play with...
[20:58] <knome> ..but you can do it in PM if need be
[21:01] <gnumbknuts> Sorry, but I trying understand what the purpose of an IRC bot is, The link you gave didn't actually explain that.
[21:02] <knome> gnumbknuts, for the most part, let support persons avoid digging up and typing the same links over and over again
[21:03] <gnumbknuts> Yes , OK knome, thanks ;)
[22:07] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[22:08] <carrera> I managed to install Xubuntu 14.04 on my laptop with 2 x 500 GB SSD in RAID 0, using the mini.iso
[22:08] <carrera> thanks for all the help
[22:09] <carrera> I just had to install the nvidia driver package cause the nouveau driver crashed
[22:10] <carrera> I just have one question now, namely has much changed in 15.04?
[22:10] <knome> yes.
[22:11] <carrera> so it's worth the upgrade
[22:11] <knome> well if it's worth or not depends on your usecase
[22:11] <knome> if you want a very stable system, then likely not
[22:12] <carrera> I love Linux in general and Xubuntu in particular and I'm using it on my own laptop
[22:13] <carrera> used to be a C, Perl and Java programmer but not since 2005
[22:13] <knome> glad to hear you like xubuntu
[22:13] <carrera> I love it!
[22:13] <knome> if you want to have a more general chat, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for that; and we're active there right now as well :)
[22:14] <carrera> it took people on this channel, a little convincing back in 2013 to switch me from Ubuntu
[22:14] <carrera> but I loved it right away
[22:15] <carrera> thanks knome
[22:15] <knome> np :)
[22:23] <xubuntu32w> Anyone familiar with YCM under xubuntu? seems like the autocompletion is only pulling from whatever is in the same folder as the conf.py
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