| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:58 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:14 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | hey penguin42 | 12:41 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: How are you finding KDE5 ? | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, not real enthusuaistic about it so far ...missing some of my fav features and one has been droppe, not a step forward... the 'look" is ok tho. | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | err enthusiastic :) | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, have you given it a try ? | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Yeh, I'm about the same, it's still annoying me in a lot of small ways | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Things like the title bars being rather big, and some things not working reliably - like ctrl-alt-t binding for opening a konsole not always working for me | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | I miss the different backgrounds for the VDs , it's been dropped in favour of the activities optional backagrounds...a pet peeve of mine , krunner no longer has a drop down for previous entries ..etc | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | the muon toolbar is missing | 13:01 |
| BluesKaj | I use muon as a reference, seldom as a package manager | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | and that muon discover thing is hopeless IMO | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | that's my list, so far :) | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | not entirely related to plasma 5 tho | 13:05 |
| penguin42 | what's muon discover? | 13:06 |
| lordievader | penguin42: The Kubuntu software centre. | 13:06 |
| penguin42 | ah | 13:07 |
| * penguin42 has never really used software centre stuff - but I do generally like having the click to do updates | 13:07 | |
| * penguin42 did notice the change in that now it's got systemd poweroff works for a normal user rather than needing sudo :-) | 13:08 | |
| gnox | Hey guys, just installed Beta 2 and now I am curious about the boot time | 13:10 |
| gnox | systemd-analyze blame gives me a service called NetworkManager-wait-online.service | 13:10 |
| elfy | yep - I think it says that for many people | 13:11 |
| gnox | with a start time of 8.071s | 13:11 |
| gnox | on a ssd | 13:11 |
| penguin42 | sounds like it's waiting for your net to come up? | 13:11 |
| elfy | gnox: similar - 12 on an ssd | 13:11 |
| gnox | my debian system boots up in just about 2.5 sec | 13:11 |
| penguin42 | gnox: Does systemctl show NetworkManager-wait-online ? | 13:12 |
| gnox | ubuntu has 12 sec | 13:12 |
| penguin42 | gnox: What does journalctl -u NetworkManager-wait-online show you, and what type of networking do you have? | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | i didn't notice any diff with boot times on kubuntu 15.04 and systemd, but this pc is pretty old, 2008 vintage, altho it has 6G RAM | 13:14 |
| gnox | penguin42: the output of systemctl: http://pastebin.com/90G5HVXq | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | amd cpus from that time aren't the fastest either | 13:15 |
| lotuspsychje | where can you enable/disable systemd services on 15.04? | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, at the login | 13:15 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: cool | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | tty/vt lotuspsychje | 13:16 |
| gnox | penguin42: journalctl -u NetworkManager-wait-online: http://pastebin.com/y39jwagB | 13:16 |
| lordievader | gnox: Do you have things depending on a network connection? | 13:16 |
| gnox | penguin42: my internet :P | 13:16 |
| lordievader | Apart from that, things like network mount's etc. | 13:17 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, assuming systemctl is part of the systemd package, ...I may be wrong on that | 13:17 |
| gnox | lordievader: no, just a plain install on my testmachine | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 13:17 |
| lordievader | Then I think you can even disable it, but don't quote me on it. | 13:18 |
| gnox | lordievader: ok, and how to do so? | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje,, quote from google: "systemctl may be used to introspect and control the state of the " systemd " system and service manager" | 13:19 |
| lordievader | gnox: sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online (if it does screw up things do the same but with 'enable' instead) | 13:20 |
| gnox | lordievader: thanks man, i'll reboot now (logging chat off and on)... | 13:22 |
| gnox | lordievader: much better now | 13:24 |
| lordievader | No broken networks? | 13:24 |
| gnox | Startup finished in 2.638s (kernel) + 1.295s (userspace) = 3.933s and network seems to work, since i can chat here | 13:24 |
| lordievader | Cool, cool. | 13:25 |
| gnox | almost 4 secs is still not that fast with my laptop and debian jessie with 2.5 secs boot-time | 13:25 |
| gnox | plymouth seems to have an error, too | 13:25 |
| penguin42 | gnox: OK, so for me the NetworkManager-wait-online takes under a second | 13:25 |
| penguin42 | gnox: I'm on wired ethernet - and you? | 13:25 |
| gnox | penguin42: yeah - wired ethernet, too | 13:26 |
| penguin42 | gnox: Hmm ok, then I guess it's a bug - because given that this is a 5year+ old Core2 laptop, the problem isn't CPU usage | 13:27 |
| gnox | penguin42: it's an acer aspire 7740G core I5 with 4gigs... | 13:28 |
| gnox | and my beta 2 runs on a desktop: amd phenom II x4 965 with 4gigs either | 13:29 |
| * BluesKaj noticed that about acer..cheap with the RAM | 13:30 | |
| penguin42 | gnox: Nod, you could try using journalctl to see what else was going on in the 8 seconds while it was sitting there - I'm wondering if it was waiting for something else and there is maybe a missing dependency of something that should happen first | 13:30 |
| gnox | BluesKaj: np to me, my jessie with xfce runs absolutely smooth ;) | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | gnox, an i5 cpu deserves more memory, mine is an i3 and it came with 8G RAM ..lenovo G500 latop | 13:33 |
| * penguin42 reckons on 1 or 2 GB/core | 13:34 | |
| gnox | BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements | 13:35 |
| gnox | as I said: no probs until now (at least for me) :) | 13:36 |
| penguin42 | gnox: Anyway, I call bug rather than cpu/memory time | 13:37 |
| gnox | penguin42, dito | 13:38 |
| gnox | penguin42, but how to see what is going on in those 8 secs? | 13:38 |
| penguin42 | gnox: Well, you know the start/end times, so get the whole of the journal for that 8 seconds and see what else is going on | 13:40 |
| elfy | I see similar, but if I disable NetworkManager-wait-online then libvirt-bin.service has a fit :) | 13:40 |
| elfy | with an i5 and 8Gb ram | 13:40 |
| gnox | penguin42, thanks... i'll enable the service again and check. i'll be back later ;) | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | gnox, not disputing that ubuntu runs great on your machine , I'm just commenting on how computer manufacturers cut HW in order reach a v=certain price point | 13:41 |
| penguin42 | gnox: The other possibility is that nm-wait-online is doing something that doesn't play well with your network card/router | 13:42 |
| penguin42 | elfy: Oh, that sounds odd - what type of fit? | 13:42 |
| elfy | penguin42: time's out | 13:42 |
| penguin42 | trying to do what? | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | odd I haven't encountered that nm-wait-online | 13:44 |
| elfy | penguin42: to connect from memory, I rebooted now | 13:45 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Me neither, I'm an upgrade | 13:45 |
| MoonUnit` | NetworkManager-wait-online takes 8 seconds for me, connected with ethernet. | 13:46 |
| penguin42 | elfy: Upgrade or fresh install ? | 13:46 |
| elfy | install | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, I installed beta2 clean | 13:46 |
| lordievader | penguin42: Libvirt can do it's networking setup through nm. | 13:46 |
| elfy | this is install sometime in the last 3 or 4 months | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | to / , still had /home untouched | 13:47 |
| lordievader | And thus if NM isn't up fully it cannot do it's networking. | 13:47 |
| penguin42 | lordievader: Yeh although I'm more surprised if it's the bit just waiting for your external internet to be up - libvirt should run fine on a host that's unplugged | 13:48 |
| elfy | lordievader: yep, but if I remove bridge-utils, then I still get the wait of ~8 secs | 13:48 |
| * penguin42 would be tempted to tcpdump what's going on the network | 13:48 | |
| lordievader | It can also run fine without NM ;) | 13:48 |
| penguin42 | I wonder if it's something like an IPv6 dhcp that goes unanswered or soemthing similar | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, I had a total blank on network W7 on qemu-kvm with libvirt , the only thing windows worked on it was the ehernet to the internet, no LAN whatsover | 13:49 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: I know, you told me. | 13:50 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Letting libvirt nat it for you should do the trick though, unless you don't want natting, then you need to look into bridge devices. | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, wondering if you knew what was wrong | 13:50 |
| penguin42 | there are a good 3 or 4 different ways of setting up networking for libvirt, each of which has there good and bad bits | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | I had the NAT enabled on the router , if that's what you mean | 13:51 |
| lordievader | No. | 13:51 |
| lordievader | Libvirt can do it's own natting, wich might be usefull if you run libvirt on a laptop and don't want to drop a bunch of vm's on every network you visit. | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | you can also do bridge networking (generally good, takes a bit of setup) or macvtap (which works very well except if you want to connect the vm to the host) | 13:53 |
| BluesKaj | I was running it on this machine/with ethernet | 13:53 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: What do you want to do with the VM networking - just let it connect out? Do you want other machines on your network to be able to connect to it? | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, exactly yes , and the VM guest/Windows 7 to connect to the pcs on the LAN | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Do you want the other machines on your network to be able to connect to the VM guest ? | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | yes that would be good too | 13:58 |
| BluesKaj | I could dual boot windows I suppose, but qemu-kvm ran very well otherwise | 13:58 |
| penguin42 | ok, if you want other hosts to be able to connect in then you can't use NAT on qemu/libvirt | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: So you need to setup one of the bridge setups | 13:59 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge | 13:59 |
| lordievader | And then plug the virtual network adapter of the vm into that. | 14:00 |
| * penguin42 thought there was a way to get libvirt to do all that for you | 14:00 | |
| BluesKaj | actually it sounds easier to just dual boot ...but I do appreciate the suggestions penguin42 , lordievader | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: For just connecting out from the VM it's dead easy using NAT | 14:02 |
| BluesKaj | I see | 14:02 |
| simon_g | hi | 14:03 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Do what you want. I'm glad I got rid of dual booting. Such a waste of time. | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, well, I have lots of time :) | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | I hope | 14:04 |
| simon_g | where does the ubuntu store xorg.conf? i cannot find it under /etc/X11 i need it to check it because my touchpad works out-of-the-box on ubuntu but other distributions seem to have a problem with it, so i wanna check it out | 14:12 |
| MoonUnit` | it's all autoconfig these days don't have an xorg.conf | 14:14 |
| TheNumb | simon_g: by default xorg.conf is not generated. | 14:14 |
| TheNumb | It's been years since autoconfig started working. | 14:15 |
| simon_g | oops... it was a while since i've used linux ;) | 14:15 |
| TheNumb | ;-) | 14:15 |
| simon_g | anyway- where can i find the configuration of touchpad :)? i'm thinking about the auto-turn off while typing as well as two-finger scrolling | 14:16 |
| simon_g | :P | 14:16 |
| MoonUnit` | if you need to you can add parts of a config to/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ | 14:16 |
| MoonUnit` | added a 10-monitor.conf to set up my dual screen there | 14:17 |
| TheNumb | MoonUnit`: err wasn't it /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? <: | 14:17 |
| MoonUnit` | used to be | 14:17 |
| simon_g | tehre is no /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d directory | 14:18 |
| simon_g | *there | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | try it without the .d | 14:19 |
| simon_g | nope, there is none | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 14:20 |
| simon_g | nope. there is no files like that | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | to create one, sudo Xorg -configure | 14:21 |
| lordievader | simon_g: Create it ;) | 14:21 |
| lordievader | The xorg.conf.d | 14:21 |
| lordievader | You don't want to create an xorg.conf | 14:21 |
| simon_g | yeah... and configure everything from the start. thanks, i'm old enough to remember it ;) | 14:21 |
| lordievader | simon_g: No, create a xorg.conf.d dir and configure just what you need. | 14:22 |
| simon_g | i'm not particularly interested with creating the new one- now everything works fine, or good enough for me. I'd just want to see the current, default, out-of-the-box configuration (which- as I've mentioned before- works fine) so I could copy it and modify the configuration on other distribution. I, somehow though, that the xorg.conf was automatically created during boot-up process | 14:25 |
| penguin42 | simon_g: Oh there isn't any xorg.conf now - none | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | simon_g: Not autocreated, never | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | simon_g: The X server just detects stuff at run time - except for special added sections | 14:26 |
| lordievader | simon_g: Hence the .d dir ;) | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | simon_g: It's done that for ages (at least 5 years??) | 14:26 |
| simon_g | :| thanks! | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | we used to create an nvidia xorg.conf when reinstalling the driver after an X problem at one time , but I haven't seen that for a couple of yrs either | 14:30 |
| lordievader | nVidia/FGLRX still like to create one, yes. | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | I don't have one afaik | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | simon_g: Stuff is so dynamic these days - you walk up to somewhere with your laptop and plug it into a projector and a mouse, then unplug it etc - a lot of the configuration doesn't make sense for static configs except when you hit a problem | 14:33 |
| lordievader | penguin42: Hehe, you should have seen FOSDEM. Many ppl messing with xrandr ;) | 14:33 |
| TheNumb | :D | 14:34 |
| MoonUnit` | hopefully one day we can have fun with wayland conf files. | 14:34 |
| lordievader | Supposedly kwin works on there. | 14:34 |
| penguin42 | lordievader: Still? KDE generally behaves for me these days even with projectors - although I still occasionally come across a fun one | 14:34 |
| * penguin42 should try wayland | 14:35 | |
| TheNumb | penguin42: not with kde | 14:36 |
| TheNumb | (yet) | 14:36 |
| TheNumb | ;p | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | :-( | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | haven't heard any reports of users trying wayland at all | 14:38 |
| MoonUnit` | tried it with fedora 21 but was buggy. | 14:40 |
| simon_g | ok, thanks for help, have a nice weekend! | 14:42 |
| igalic | BluesKaj: how does one use wayland? | 15:35 |
| TheNumb | igalic: your DE/window manager has to support it first. | 15:39 |
| TheNumb | ;-) | 15:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ubi-partman hates the UEFI world apparently... | 15:41 |
| igalic | TheNumb: well, that would be kde | 15:46 |
| TheNumb | no | 15:46 |
| TheNumb | not yet | 15:46 |
| TheNumb | ;-) | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | igalic, I see your question was answered, haven't tried it myself, and I'm also on KDE | 16:08 |
| TheNumb | igalic: be sure to follow https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts | 16:11 |
| TheNumb | :) | 16:11 |
| TheNumb | Martin is the head developer of KWin. | 16:12 |
| solsTiCe | hi. I just tried ubuntu 15.04 live cd (usb) and it was fine. Except when I told it to reboot; it stayed forever on "Please remove media an dype ENTER". I had to use the power button to switch it off. | 16:42 |
| solsTiCe | I welcome the switch to systemd but isn't that a little late in the ubuntu release cycle ? after feature freeze ?? | 16:43 |
| * penguin42 isn't sure on the timing - but it's hardly a surprise - it's been announced it was happening for a long time and you've been able to choose one or the other for a while, so I think the only change that's just happened is making the default switch | 16:44 | |
| solsTiCe | ok | 16:45 |
| TheNumb | solsTiCe: it's not like the packages haven't been tested before the switch. | 16:46 |
| lordievader | Probably the feature freeze came in handy with the switch to systemd. Things don't change when frozen. | 16:47 |
| elfy | that's a known b2 image bug ^^ | 16:50 |
| solsTiCe | elfy: the reboot thingy problem ? | 16:51 |
| TheNumb | solsTiCe: it used to happen to me in older releases too. | 16:53 |
| TheNumb | So it's not 15.04 specific. | 16:53 |
| solsTiCe | I tried previous daily 15.04 iso and I don't remember having such a problem. never mind. | 16:54 |
| elfy | solsTiCe: yep | 16:54 |
| elfy | it's better than just before - when it just rebooted into live image :) | 16:55 |
| TheNumb | solsTiCe: it happens every once in a while | 16:56 |
| solsTiCe | I thought it was systemd related | 16:58 |
| TheNumb | nope | 17:01 |
| agronholm | how do I switch from nouveau to nvidia drivers on 15.04? thanks. | 17:05 |
| elfy | install nvidia from additional drivers | 17:08 |
| lordievader | agronholm: Install the nvidia package. | 17:08 |
| agronholm | it's not visible there | 17:08 |
| agronholm | I already installed nvidia-346 | 17:09 |
| lordievader | agronholm: What card do you have? | 17:09 |
| agronholm | geforce gt 940M | 17:09 |
| lordievader | Should still be supported, I think. | 17:09 |
| agronholm | by the binary drivers, yes | 17:09 |
| lordievader | agronholm: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? | 17:09 |
| agronholm | https://bpaste.net/show/02dd732f9d8d | 17:10 |
| agronholm | does this mean I'm not even using nouveau? | 17:10 |
| TheNumb | well | 17:10 |
| TheNumb | agronholm: isn't your dedicated gpu turned off? | 17:11 |
| agronholm | how would I know? | 17:11 |
| lordievader | Is it an hybrid thing? | 17:11 |
| TheNumb | in bios or something | 17:11 |
| agronholm | I guess I should reboot and check | 17:11 |
| maxb | Time to dare to upgrade ... :-) | 17:16 |
| agronholm | there was no such setting in the BIOS | 17:18 |
| lordievader | agronholm: Is it a laptop? | 17:18 |
| agronholm | yes | 17:18 |
| agronholm | thinpad t550 | 17:18 |
| agronholm | *Thinkpad | 17:18 |
| lordievader | agronholm: Hmm, could you pastebin the output of lshw? | 17:20 |
| agronholm | https://bpaste.net/show/4f3cd8e1daa7 | 17:21 |
| lordievader | There are multiple models, one with only an intel gpu, one with a hybrid intel/nvidia. This seems to be intel only. | 17:23 |
| lordievader | http://pdfs.icecat.biz/pdf/44835721-8504.pdf | 17:23 |
| agronholm | lordievader: I specifically got myself the nvidia version | 17:23 |
| agronholm | as you can see from the output, it has an nvidia controller | 17:23 |
| agronholm | line 356 onward | 17:24 |
| TheNumb | yup | 17:24 |
| agronholm | is this chip too new to be somehow recognized? | 17:25 |
| agronholm | it was only announced like two weeks ago... | 17:25 |
| agronholm | this is my first laptop with both intel and nvidia controllers so I'm at a loss | 17:26 |
| agronholm | I have no clue how to switch | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | oh those are always fun | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | agronholm: Are you sure - The Lenovo's normally have a switch in the BIOS for that | 17:27 |
| TheNumb | penguin42: unless it's "muxless" | 17:28 |
| TheNumb | no switch in that case | 17:28 |
| agronholm | penguin42: if it doesn't, I was delivered the wrong thing | 17:28 |
| TheNumb | agronholm: does it work in windows? | 17:28 |
| agronholm | and then what is the nvidia 3d controller device on line 356 onwards? | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | agronholm: I had a w520 a couple of years back that had it, they offered a choice between Integrated, discrete and Optimus | 17:28 |
| TheNumb | I see that you have an ntfs partition. | 17:28 |
| agronholm | TheNumb: yeh? | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | TheNumb: What's the muxless about? | 17:28 |
| TheNumb | penguin42: the display is connected to the integrated gpu | 17:29 |
| TheNumb | only | 17:29 |
| TheNumb | I've got a laptop with that setup. | 17:29 |
| penguin42 | TheNumb: Ah, not come across those, the one I had had no mux, but it had some outputs connected to the Intel, some to the Nvidia | 17:29 |
| TheNumb | And it's a pain in the butt since xorg doesn't support that at all. | 17:29 |
| TheNumb | Only hacky drivers from amd do. | 17:30 |
| penguin42 | TheNumb: There's a thing called bumblebee for Intel/Nvidia mix | 17:30 |
| TheNumb | I know. | 17:30 |
| TheNumb | It's also supposed to work with muxless intel/amd ;p | 17:31 |
| lordievader | agronholm: Ah, I read over that one. | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | TheNumb: Still, the w520 I had with that mix still had the bios settings | 17:31 |
| agronholm | well, this one didn't | 17:31 |
| agronholm | I'm pretty sure of it | 17:31 |
| TheNumb | only older laptops had that switch | 17:31 |
| TheNumb | new ones usually come "muxless" | 17:32 |
| TheNumb | unless the vendor decides otherwise | 17:32 |
| agronholm | what does that mean? | 17:32 |
| TheNumb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics | 17:32 |
| lordievader | Lshw does show that the nvidia doesn't have a driver loaded. | 17:33 |
| TheNumb | agronholm: check your xorg log. | 17:34 |
| agronholm | the nouvea module is loaded though | 17:34 |
| agronholm | *nouveau | 17:34 |
| lordievader | agronholm: Lshw doesn't reflect that. | 17:34 |
| agronholm | but since this is kernel 3.19, it doesn't recognize it | 17:34 |
| agronholm | support for the 940M only comes in kernel 4.0 | 17:34 |
| agronholm | I tried installing 4.0rc5 but then the nvidia driver couldn't build its dkms module | 17:36 |
| penguin42 | agronholm: how were you installing the nvidia driver? | 17:37 |
| agronholm | penguin42: apt-get install nvdiai-346-updates | 17:37 |
| penguin42 | ok | 17:37 |
| lordievader | agronholm: From where did you install the 4.0 kernel? Ubuntu kernel ppa? | 17:38 |
| agronholm | yes | 17:38 |
| CptRageToaster | travnewmatic: where are the Vivid kernel, initrd, etc on your box? | 17:49 |
| travnewmatic | http://pastebin.com/NaU3NwPW | 17:49 |
| CptRageToaster | it looked like they were on the same HDD, but different partition? | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | thats right | 17:50 |
| CptRageToaster | ok | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | i'm trying something that i havent done before | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | different /'s for utopic and vivid | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | but they're both using the same /boot, /home, and swap | 17:50 |
| CptRageToaster | have you made sure that you have permission to see everything there? | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | well i've got vivid mounted | 17:50 |
| travnewmatic | and can click around in the folders | 17:51 |
| CptRageToaster | wait... but the contents of your /boot folder... | 17:51 |
| CptRageToaster | that's what grub would be reading.... | 17:51 |
| travnewmatic | sure, i do have that partition mounted as well | 17:51 |
| travnewmatic | and i checked the time on the grub.cfg file | 17:51 |
| travnewmatic | that file in /boot/grub/ is the one thats getting updated iwth grub-update | 17:52 |
| CptRageToaster | so, make sure you don't have a DIFFERENT grub.cfg in the OTHER /boot folder | 17:52 |
| CptRageToaster | right? | 17:52 |
| CptRageToaster | there are two? | 17:52 |
| travnewmatic | only one boot | 17:52 |
| CptRageToaster | o ok | 17:52 |
| CptRageToaster | I think I see what you're going for | 17:52 |
| travnewmatic | /boot and /home are shared | 17:53 |
| CptRageToaster | I'm going to go eat some food, I'll think about this some more | 17:53 |
| travnewmatic | :D | 17:53 |
| travnewmatic | k | 17:53 |
| CptRageToaster | why does the script say it's living in /dev/sda8 then? | 17:53 |
| CptRageToaster | shouldn't the kernel and initrd still be living in the /boot folder of dev/sda1? | 17:53 |
| CptRageToaster | I'm not certain | 17:53 |
| CptRageToaster | afk, brb 40 min or so | 17:53 |
| travnewmatic | thats where the /boot partition is | 17:54 |
| travnewmatic | er | 17:55 |
| travnewmatic | sorry | 17:55 |
| travnewmatic | /dev/sda8 is the root (/) for vivid | 17:55 |
| travnewmatic | lordievader, http://pastebin.com/siS47nF4 | 17:56 |
| travnewmatic | my grub.cfg | 17:56 |
| travnewmatic | lordievader, your idea the other day got me tinkering | 17:57 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: How did you install Vivid? | 17:57 |
| lordievader | What idea? | 17:57 |
| travnewmatic | having multiple linux's mount the same /home | 17:58 |
| travnewmatic | i installed vivid with a flash drive | 17:58 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: Grub doesn't find a kernel nor initramfs. | 17:59 |
| lordievader | Where have you put those? | 17:59 |
| travnewmatic | hmmmmmmm | 17:59 |
| travnewmatic | those should be in boot | 18:00 |
| travnewmatic | http://pastebin.com/zhLrziW9 | 18:01 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: In the same /boot or did you make a new one? | 18:01 |
| travnewmatic | supposed to be the same boot | 18:01 |
| lordievader | Jup, no Vivid kernel. | 18:01 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: Could you pastebin your partition layout? | 18:01 |
| travnewmatic | seeing that now :| | 18:01 |
| travnewmatic | un momento | 18:02 |
| travnewmatic | http://pastebin.com/EtMRETJu | 18:02 |
| ubuntuuberuser | guys, i have a problem | 18:03 |
| ubuntuuberuser | problem with dependencies | 18:03 |
| ubuntuuberuser | trying to remove Plank from 15.04 new beta Mate ed | 18:03 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: That is df, not your partition layout | 18:03 |
| travnewmatic | i was avoiding screencaps :D | 18:04 |
| travnewmatic | but i can | 18:04 |
| ubuntuuberuser | plank depends on ubuntu-mate-desktop | 18:04 |
| ubuntuuberuser | it is not right i think | 18:04 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: parted /dev/sdX print | 18:05 |
| travnewmatic | http://pastebin.com/iSbEaZfH | 18:05 |
| travnewmatic | ah k | 18:05 |
| travnewmatic | http://pastebin.com/HvjNvv5p | 18:06 |
| lordievader | travnewmatic: I get the feeling the Vivid kernel didn't go to /boot. | 18:07 |
| lordievader | Anyhow, got to go. | 18:07 |
| travnewmatic | lordievader, i'm getting that feeling too | 18:07 |
| travnewmatic | alright | 18:08 |
| travnewmatic | will reinstall, making sure my boxes are checked and my t's are crossed | 18:08 |
| travnewmatic | thanks for all the help guys, i'll let you know how it goes! | 18:08 |
| travnewmatic | so during the install | 18:12 |
| CptRageToaster | Oh good | 19:19 |
| CptRageToaster | I was thinking that too | 19:19 |
| stef1a | i'm running 15.04 on a third gen Lenovo ThinkPad Carbon X1, and audio has stopped playing from chrome, chromium, and firefox. help? | 20:18 |
| TheNumb | stef1a: does it play at all? | 20:19 |
| stef1a | yup | 20:19 |
| TheNumb | have you tried restarting the browsers? | 20:19 |
| stef1a | yes, and the machine | 20:20 |
| agronholm | ok I think I understand a little better how things should work with a hybrid graphics system now | 21:07 |
| agronholm | my machine is quite new so it should not have a hardware muxer. now I just need to figure out how to make the nvidia chip actually work. | 21:07 |
| lordievader | Whoo, did you fix it? | 21:07 |
| lordievader | Oh.. | 21:07 |
| lordievader | Cheered to soon, didn't I. | 21:08 |
| agronholm | heh | 21:08 |
| agronholm | I just need to know how to switch from nouveau to the binary driver | 21:08 |
| agronholm | xrandr --listproviders only gives me one provider | 21:09 |
| lordievader | I got the feeling you first need to switch to the nVidia card from the Intel one. | 21:09 |
| agronholm | no | 21:09 |
| agronholm | in newer systems, the intel driver is *always* active | 21:09 |
| agronholm | but applications can be made to render using the nvidia driver | 21:10 |
| agronholm | that's how PRIME works apparently | 21:10 |
| lordievader | Hmm, clearly I have no idea what I am talking about XD | 21:10 |
| agronholm | what you said was true for older systems that have a hardware muxer | 21:10 |
| agronholm | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics | 21:11 |
| lordievader | Nasty stuff. | 21:18 |
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